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What if the limiting factor is the ethics and not the computing power ? | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-05-04 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBRkxqb1lkS0NNaUs1ek5mNjNOS3ZIeWVNcGNlUVpCQzg0eFRTTUROVEtSbVAySG1oYWNTbUo4Mlp1dENoNlJTamkxR3d1Z3M2QjBXMXRvcVVKb01HeWc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCSnZKQTFzLUFIZ1Z5MEJrYzNMcTFlbTlDWWZRNnBYampYcW1CQ2NBVnBZN1pkVXFXanhXSElSYWpPNVhmaE40aEtGUHFWRWVLdGhoaUtUcGhzTGxTcG1xUGE0NFhCUjJVODhaaEhHejhoNndibDVFSTNUS0JoSHVSdkVySWhBUGlhZjhpZWlZMHUxeTNnUG9Fay0yTGIwX1VGdVJOZXhrMUY1SVVvYm0wWkk2bTdnZGF3eTgwRVoxNFFMbHM0OVB0SVdLQV9leERqM0YzLTNJMm1Tb3BMUT09 |
Unscrupulous technologies can asymmetrically offset disparities to do extra damage - that's what we see with terrorism for instance. But generally that isn't good enough to allow you to actually replace an institutional order. The latter requires more than just wanton destruction. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-05-04 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBT1NBUVl5aV9ZZGZNeDA4c2w5WVVpLUEwTEtwamNkbTlPUmllekhBYzRZMHkyQS1EZEVHd0NPcHRVdmFKLU5TX2RxNk1JeEgzN1k0cFpTRU5MS2tiS1E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCSlNaNDNZdkZyQV9aU3VlY1N6NU8zc0h6MmRoUzllU21wNmxJaU1SWjRuUldOTjhlUU05clZNQ1lYVVkzN2F1VHRHWmNrdk5uZ202N0FqZXpURWszQzR0alhUQXptOU1EOTB6UG9NeDA0TmswakNCb0dDTEhCVFZrUEtSdUFHMnJCVW1Ua19pOWNNdUtLRVpPMUh2c1ZzSGZPTXAwOHJES1o2eTVxcXkyMUJjbU04U0lPOGNxbVhfTjZvdl96OFhYOUk1NEplTXdIS0JRbk5UdEJCNHc5Zz09 |
This is the future. No need for an ID registry or any effort on a citizen's part for the government to keep track of what's going on. This can be used for good or bad, but those who have what it takes to take power tend not to be the most wholesome people. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-05-05 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBd1prRnFMR0YtYmNmbkpnUS1OdDVVeTdVaWk4S3JyTERQM2RZaEVLeXBKVXZjM0xYSEpCVGtscUk5UlFpQW9KOGhaYXdUM2pRTHhpSl9maGo0NVVNVHc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCMWpyWnFVNWozLVROczZmX09rNC1uWFBCaVZYMDNWZ05WX3hlNTVZcE9qZzdtRUllckxQSFRfYzN0NEtZZTRWU0xERlVWMXd1YnV1VXN0OVV2WHdERmNuXzVIRkwyTDlfSzl1TTNYcEl5R0VDbWtTVnpTVWtRakpuQnh4UHRqMG81Tk5PMk1BVVZCLVJlOXBYV3BSMWlBcGtaQlFHZk90c2llRm9kTHA1Z0wtb21ka2JNVmh0ZkotWVlGT181eFpXTlNhYUxycXJEbEFNeFBUYmsxY0xhdz09 |
What. This screams nonsense.
>“In my own research, I had come across this idea in Lakota ontology of rocks as having volition,” says Kite. “And when I read Jason’s book chapter, I realized that the Lakota ontology spoke directly to his work.”
Some people need to learn the difference between "having a different philosophy" and "believing in falsehoods". Rocks *don't* have volition.
>"You’re not treating something respectfully because it has a soul, you are treating it respectfully because it’s one nodal point in a number of different relations that you are enmeshed in.”
What is she going on about? Do regular AI systems not have "graphs and relations" between people and animals? Do any AI engineers care about "souls"?
>a needed alternative to Western philosophies that make hard distinctions between humans and everything else
I think she should read what Western philosophy is actually saying these days.
>What would happen if we took seriously the idea that what we think of as animate or inanimate might not be accurate
You mean, exactly what is already being done by massive institutions of scientific and philosophical research? Oh wait, that's *Western* research, which perpetuates the neocolonial exploitation and slavery of rocks.
By the way, don't assume that this stuff will treat animals better just because it uses indigenous epistemology. Any old AI can be told to give high or low weight to animal interests - that's something that comes from the goals of the programmers, not vague ideas of "epistemology". If I had anthropocentric goals, I could probably take whatever epistemology they're imagining, and just set a few variables to make software that ruins animals anyway. As for the goals of these people, the #1 subtext going on here is the political and social interests of indigenous minorities, not reducing factory farming or improving wildlife welfare.
I'm looking through [this essay](https://jods.mitpress.mit.edu/pub/lewis-arista-pechawis-kite), apparently the closest thing to an actual research output so far, and it looks very bad to me. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-05-06 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBcjNDZmZzaDlwcUZNWDFMSEZUaktRczJzdzBaejl2NWx5bEg4RzIycG44WFJfZWVvY0FOZ2UtNloyV0I3NWphUzI4S292NjVBWEtFN01qRlVoYmdqTkE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCcE5IcWJEb2ZrU2FJZTNXc1l3M3drejFiT2Jkd0JOcGRaZklFZXBrd2Y3d1NKRExfakFUNUQ2NVc2bHZiWU9OLUVaTkV4aG1kV0JWZGpSR20zX1dhc0hqNzhnZ3ltY21EQkt0aFZUM2xnVm14MUVPdnJyLVJjSDlLS2ttMGJ5RkNnZEc2V2xmSzU5dGtlSjh0Zk55cnBGd1d3c3g5blJvTFB5N3lhRlNXWHZOVHBSSkNUcFNlSWs1S213a3lsbnU5a2RESkZQeUNUVWVpZkNEQ0NpOWtZUT09 |
Automated blogspam? | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-05-17 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBdGFzclg1bnFLaHFQeUl5eHliQ09RLWFVNWNaWmRLXzZXaXF1c21oemZlUDdBRjJLcjNzRWxvUE03VWIzZG5vSkFBSGJMNjdGLXJJRHhvZEVhbzdhWHc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCT1RaNWZ6VkFwaGtqQ0pyR01aektyZ016MWhrb0JrUDZyMjd3Y3VwWlRxS0QtSHB2OVJDU2M5N3JWVEUteGowa1huX29kM3VUOGhYSFkwTDJhNEtEUk1MR09tUkdKR0FUN2FkOGlzaGE4T1Y3TzlrY1lrX2Q2djhiX1RFVV9wazJWRFdXN0ZXdVBXTXlYTGY2Y0VQcGdIY2plQlhZXzNiaEpDMW1QS0EySy1vZW1iaC1BWnoyOWxObXBCemZjWnlVTDBtYTJhSUJhSTJuLUgwVVEzdkpZQT09 |
I'm not religious at all, but I found this take on AI ethics fairly innocuous, not completely off the mark, and yet showing how uninformative millennia-old religious texts can be to tackle nowadays ethical issues.
This text is mostly a rehash of commonly discussed notions with a varnish of religiosity that provides very little insight on the actual guidelines that are provided. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-05-19 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBQTlsTG9JRzQ2cnpHRkhubEFUSWVCX3VOeUdoSGRqNW83XzRyaUttWjdsRFFyX3pScHpiSUEyWEpkZElpWkpvRnlzNktnRlgzQ1BnOEZQLWFHTTBKcFE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCQW1oQWZkQ0VmWHhDMXBpbmZtOEk4eGo2cUY5UXlxcmtDbnZWZXVCR1N6UGFOeTlYY0xvU2Z3WFJ6R3BaM1R2NEtBb2FSOUdKbS1wb3BSZjVjNTJaVzZSbER3WUtvOXYxWmdMSVk0NWtubE9BcmNjNzVBaHZhMWlzMDg1c3JPd3JUX2lCUEtWTS1jR3FZZnd1RElRTzJNa2E5ZHAzcml4N3VQNjdSbU1FTW42eDZGT1VCV2p4YWRtcHR4WU9QdVowT3RvQzZsdmxyV1RTYWEzNlB0bVJEZz09 |
It is pretty ambiguous. It is very subtle about discerning whether AGI could ever have a soul, but seems to lean against that, which is probably a bad thing in the long run for AI ethics.
The rest is just essentially a summary of usage rather than of judgement. If neural interfacing and true AGI ever become prolific though, it's going to have some pretty Earth shattering implications for the concept of the self and death, and the scripture is in no possible way written to deal with the ambiguity that could bring forth. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-05-19 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBUmh3TVFpNzdBMC1YYmRaVVNGbC1PSnJMTUJKUEk3M0xmN0hZdFF2RWcyaHBCcVRUSnVFZ2t5R0lvZERJeGJxX0dUVUl1Vm1yYUkwbXlBeFhCOEpfVnc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCbmtFSVp0RVlyb1gxcG9EMmxRV3RYZGJrS3dkOVNGaElUZEJSd3ZzMTc4eE1rbHlBRlBVaEhpa3pOWEthV3puZWpXZWpCbXNrZ0dHeE45azh2Z1owOURuT18zM0pSbWpSNWd6Mll6V1hiSFE3X3phbHJYUGhiY3lWMEpudVdwZ2FGcWNYVkpKcVRFWmFpSUFKbkY1QmJCMWI5c0wwWWNZVlRJbnpoRm9SQ1VYSU9HRkctMFNZYzlLR1JwS1RESmxkdXdRZEgzWWplTk5tbE1Dd3FCLTdTQT09 |
Religion has absolutely no authority about morality. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-05-19 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBWkFPQWRYNlNreVI1eXpSTnBVWmNtdUEwa2ZOZXJrSklwd0xLc1RCY3pYSFpCNjBnT2p1MGltcGlyQkpDc19EeVlwNVZJNkllYW9VZk11Zm1EWkZmNFE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCdHh6M0hBVGtGeXZCcWY1SHVhSHprc01qMmlMN2dBTnV2NnFwQkxvSXoya2VqNzZRWkhpZmZxaDhwVzFwYlRGVHAtVDlFZmxsZkpPd3dSUHluZG1tY0hfaVEtVjZmSkRvZkRTb3pOZTBKcWlmRHg2cGozaUZmeldVcWFfZVNPNzFUWTFmWUN1RkZGTmFCZkhTX1VEb295RkxHTDFZRkhjVkZWMDdQbDVfV214czBPbUJFNkdUQVpUVDRZMFExOW42dVNKQmY4LTd1SEk4UkxjUlAyVENEQT09 |
>Computers and AI cannot be trusted! We need more supervision of these computers by real human beings!
Because human beings are super trustworthy, am I right? | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-05-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBQXRlTUozTlhwRTZ6UXRIS0p5ZTd1TERhUTd5TDVnaHI3SXliMFl5a09uMHBHODJtS21YcXNxeTVoak1SZU9uQ2FPSEd5LTRpeHdkMUx3UUlZbDVtOEE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCM3hLNm5HUDF1QXNmUG5RdXFLRjdaWng0dGhHNTNKVkoyaFlMcE1VMkFtaXdIMThaVE5Da196ZTl1WmRzRDJOZy1jNzBiOWVPT2I2UUU3VUdkUENIbl9kTjJLa3Z5NDMyVHNSdlc0QjliSmRrWmk1azIzb1Jqak55T2RvM0otUHlKd1lBNmFaWTZteENRYXczOWN1aW1YZWc1S1hTQ3BRdXJhdnpOR05XWFZ3PQ== |
Thank you for your comment. But that is not my position. That is just the general opinion. I go on to propose a system that will allow us to trust both humans and computers. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-05-22 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBQVBWck9VWnNHS09ERVo5N252X3lMVFVEUDE5cnN6Q2NJZTRMQkFTYWkyci1oQ29tMjJ6aHpqNmZYNkhCQlotX0JtRHhQZlU3ekJLNm92U2MtQnJxMGc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCeVJfZGV0cVFQTzFDTFlCSGZJLU1FOVNfMDU1UkJhYVd0eDhVb0doTDhGUGE4akw5UlpZTVV5OFBOVDZ2MlpiZzRBR04zVDVfVXp2NHF1ZG5UMl83LVVsbk8temFlaVFHMkNWRDVxY0NmTFdmODA4dENHWEw3UVUwRU00QXJ1bEFiMm0xZzhoMUh1RTB5b1llVTRXaUtwcENPNVkyYTNQd2xzcTZ0ZnZqdmc0PQ== |
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At first I was intrigued and interested in seeing rigorous counter arguments to the pro publica analysis.
Turns out this is the extreme example of putting a varnish of good looking but shallow and tautological statistics to justify racism.
This reminds me a lot of the bad faith arguments some loony physicists use to oppose the evidence of climate change. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-07-02 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBLU1ZSklqNGRyX1M1M1ZBTWlQNWZ3VWhIV1dxcVN0OHdKS3FfZlk4cTc1RTVvcVg0LXZFMTVxY3Z0UnY4cnpjYkUyTnFEdWpGQTdkWWpIenJfN1lwYnc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCZi10c0dSR2FBZzl5clVIR2pyTEdmVUhDdkc4eFpwc0RSNDF3dTZ1blZzQ0pKQWtmWHVqVmZtNTJUTUQ1R19wZEpfUFpqN0cxWmlPRmlwdnU1MXJmWWVSTTNZT3hGSE0wYVZGaHpzd1VGTDBpQVBBd3prX2ljRmN5WU82RVl5SGh3QWxZamlfVV9YSGlSWXhxWVRTMHZtdHdzZWdESTktOXZTTnlKbWJnWE91OXZqbjZZU0Q2ZXlweTdtRTFUaXh0S3AxMnhFRXdxdVlCaXZLOHBUOWI4QT09 |
Do you have an actual reason to believe this? | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-07-02 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBQVFFeUc3anFSZ2Z2dzhSaE1LcEFOQlB6UGdlZ3JQVkcxcm9FTWV6Yjc1dTM5STViM2F6a1N2RHZkaU5Wa3JVOW9XU2RlNEs5by1xcXh6aEg5eGJiX2c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCRmU0ajJoMm93aW90QjlKTnNMcHdGZkFjcVdyR0ZPUEdRRjQxY29zdVd2dnhaelYtREx3aGdHeWwwbjBCblZZWElrT29URGk5MTN2VWhIUGkxcUo0R1M3dk5CaGxtenJTMk9zZlBVMDltMWdBd0dPdmNMb3RJRnBuWDBINld2TFJVVV9wdkZldGd5akZHNWhlMG41Nk9vU2J5UjNpaFBjdEEwRUtEeHBHOGxTc3dDNVhOQnJodGV0Y29aWG9wc2xmaFFFajRnUG83NHJNODNhM2NnaHdIZz09 |
Just read the paper. Even the executive summary hints at their approach. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-07-02 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBOFR6ODd4c3ZGNWlOYzRXNEdSMkFhUmUyVkp6OFY0THpvcENEdUtjVFc3OGkyLUdITVhueko1LU1LRlc1VzVVdkdMWWVNTlVxX0JSa2YyYUtxNVpKeXc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCM0djc1V1cjJVMFlLZmVFc3l0SUxXUVgxVnZCY0h6MWNfVVN5WDZIdkk2QTU5WWpvNnZZc0RHai01bW0zSGc5YWVHWFk2WVI1ZlZEMlI3N3AxNWFydzhNbWVmUFpYeWY2VExEVWFNUnZYY1Z1Rk5HZU1xVFNmejhCeGZyNU55ZGpxbm12MDVzLThmeU15RTZmWWlrZFRwZ19TUjBNY01HS0htanRJMGVIaHNrNkpKb0R2SldxVl9BVmtnREVxRjJVRnFhWGpMOFVnblUtSWFRcDh3SVhqdz09 |
You mean, the idea that black offenders actually did re-offend at higher rates in the data?
If that's racist, then so am I. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-07-02 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBZlNiN1laOVR5dG05TFR2cGV3Ml9KWEZKUTBQUTd6dVVYa2d0ZFkzNW1xak1GX2E5TlhsXzNZV3J6T2hOQ1ROYTVGWG15Y2ZLbF9Uc3lvUDRrd2ZWeXc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCVkZXYkVQSzZRV0htSV9XM0VTdG5lQnF1bGZEeDhmalZOWldRZk9iNW1GLXk2bl81ZEluazdSM0ZMZ2N3UjZMOVpoVXBkcERiV0hVYjd0ajFCNjVfQno1cVZ5OUxpdkpvTmR1UWkyb1pLUzJ3Um9lNkROT05HXzE5cTVCVmFmLWF5Q19CQTJGT2dESjN6TWIxaUpqQzFTX290VUs2X2tyclJXOXM5R25zWlBweFp5X09JOFZVbno5V3lrOHpid1Iwa3FNSjlBNjdSa2ptZzBFX3FndG4xUT09 |
Other explanatory variables such as poverty rates and single-parent households could have been justified, but basing justice decisions on race, is - indeed - the very definition of racism. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-07-02 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBTkdtcTd6S0NvVUlvNV82OVVicmRhWFNVWnhNcTNNYkVkZVA3SFE4THFJOG1WcXBOQi1xREM4NGhPc1lYY1RjamVRamIzZkdENlhCY1o5RXd4cDlPVkE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCQjcwbkNBdkZFOEx3V0l6bWhveVFBcWdYeW1hcmR1MGVrR3o3SGJ1UlZhT0s0OXpDSThSLWJQTjFzV0NHOThPTzZCblhVdWcwRFN2c3NXRURXT2diTDgtSi1lcHMxd3lEZ3Bxa2w3cUlHS01maDgydXIxcGRLUi1RUDlqbjg4dWpBM1lpRUFTWGpyV3FSUU95MHk5czNmZGxtMGRqUjB2YVVlZUlHeEFKeVpkREFuT0JEZWVYZkwtTFJVWWo5bDlHS1ZiYUN5a3ZVVVg2MllXM3RKZUxpZz09 |
It doesn't (explicitly) base decisions on race. Here's the questionnaire that they used for input data, race is not in it: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2702103-Sample-Risk-Assessment-COMPAS-CORE.html | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-07-02 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBdHVOVnBWU1drbnNvRTFfcXFtcnhWcVFlN2U3QXUtYzB6TXJWd0gyTWpFdW4tY09qNWx3T25jMXRqOXFzaWVnSzRHRFRIejdJVWQzZHpVRHJuRU45T3c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCa2padzRsbnNBUV9sQmJKS2xCODhGV0pDZ3lMRWR0YUNMcGkwSXI3NVZpMk41ZWVNemhENUdIMXlzT2gxVFlIZlBLWEJZUFNwa2lMR1hoZFMzRDJ2UlJndzdwYk9RMnJyM1VkRWd4MUxMQlAxS2FtSXVQYm1WOTZzWF8yVWFyS0FOdFNRRHBTcUdWUU1fVDdXcDhaQVZCSHczSGowUnJZVW1HYldVdFhrYlZ3S2xTdC1jLU5QbGdEUzRPam5fQWlJSHd0QTVHbFNFV3RPaDJxcTEzUDFuZz09 |
I am in a dilemma. I received my degree in biology, and I have done some brief reading about our Earth’s average temperature. From my findings, or lack there of, I feel like their may be an exaggeration/monopolistic-esque view of our current climate status.
I consider myself to be very scientific minded. I do my best to remain unbiased in my thinking and decision-making. That being said, I have heard/read the negative effects that humans have on the climate. According to large portion of climate scientists, humans are accelerating global warming through anthropogenic factors. I can wholeheartedly agree with the research and the overall logic of that belief.
But, I need more than that to hop on the “We’re-destroying-the-Earth-Change-your-entire-lifestyle-Train.”
I want more information on the natural cycle of the earth. I want to know whether the Earth has adaptive processes that can counteract the warming of our planet. I want to know whether natural forest fires contribute more to the warming of the earth than humans do. I want to know how “scientists” are predicting the complete demise of the Earth, when meteorologists have less than 50% accuracy of 10-day weather forecasts.
Anybody wanna fill me in on some information you may have?
Also, I am extremely frustrated with the inability for the average person to access scholarly articles and peer-reviewed journals. I know things cost money, but I think knowledge should be free for all people to obtain. I can only imagine what would need to be done financially to make that happen, so...yeah. Just a side thought. | r/cleanenergy | post | r/CleanEnergy | 2019-07-10 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBbVQyVTl2enppOGpFbERNaEhSdlU2Sy14czRBSjNPYkdvTzJ0N01rbG9HclJNRmFGZGpkM3MyM09jczVZMllfX0lIWi0wOWx6QXU3aUhaNkNiOHJfWVE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCbDJuYUZQN3hNS3dXUDM3bHpCZnVfOG5XbC02VTNPUEpuYmN0WjF0cWpkaEZCTS1NdkpTTFU1XzV1VGRVdmdmMTlqNXByNGhsemREamlZYW1PMFVPVlRTdVhScmVGVXZlcFZGU2VLaVhvOWlkdU00S2J6S3JXYW9nVVQ4SWZES1B0ZHlOUm1SQng4Z1ZiRGNoWDlVcDNnVi1LWVlmYXdOWl9qclUySmtXTUowSm5MYmU4dGRuQ3ZuSUI1SXJHOHZ2ZWVkbklEMmdTdHlsVnV3UHdydXgzQT09 |
https://www.ipcc.ch/reports/
Note that right wing fucktards try to dismiss the ipcc as a political ideology.
The ipcc is the biggest consortium of climate scientists world wide. | r/cleanenergy | comment | r/CleanEnergy | 2019-07-10 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBOTR2Rzc3U1F3MDBZaHh1VTJqTWg3SVVrUmpxSUd5eTZvaFZ6dEFyeEttcGVFeWNCZklHdmpDWFJpSHY5NUJ1aExUMUl0ZzZLUTRFZzY5LXpPal9DZ2c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCdjM4Ylk3SjFEazdWb1YzTTQxU1RQWWo1S2ZobmFPZVJMTnNERldnTVRUbHYtOG9mZ2gtRVJPOFEzQlZMU25CZjcyUWotV1ZjeFZaakg5NEpidnVuUHJvdkU5R0tWTmIyRXluV0M0cHdtb1pQanBvdEZUTkF1QmFOczh2NFNJVkw4NUxZX0xJbHc0NmI1WjRCNnBCTklvMG9HNlFDRXhqOThyTF83S2NjQ2pYLVhjcXFyUEVUdTk1Ty1zSmFGdDlPYVpXN0lGaEFwekRhczhTUWpxbXlOZz09 |
To get a visual how the temperature of the earth is changing over time have a look at [https://xkcd.com/1732/](https://xkcd.com/1732/) (sources in the image in the top right).
Nature can adapt to changing temperatures with natural selection and evolution if the change goes slowly. But if the changes are as sudden as they are now there is not enough time for nature to adapt.
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>I want to know how “scientists” are predicting the complete demise of the Earth, when meteorologists have less than 50% accuracy of 10-day weather forecasts.
You're confusing weather (short timescale, highly variable) with climate (long timescale).
But as u/relevant_rhino has pointed out, read the ipcc report, it contains all the info of the publications, but is freely accessible. An informative one is the [special rapport about global warming of 1.5 C](https://www.ipcc.ch/sr15/) where the [summary for policy makers](https://www.ipcc.ch/sr15/chapter/summary-for-policy-makers/) is a good start. | r/cleanenergy | comment | r/CleanEnergy | 2019-07-10 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBaWNWLU8xektDSXhvRDdxTkI2ejJISEN3VTVNcXBEQzlJRTNxdE5lWlN5eTBrc1F1QkU3T1JSXy1aYWcwRmlINnJhWlVnMWk5M2pOam42eXZOQWVBeXc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCVzhBSjF6ZDJEU2ZwRXh4UDVGRHFRTkZuQ3pfUUNsMl9RMk9JUDNZTkZ2SEtxX1FFOFpzc014REtGcDlNbFZfZmR0R2Zja3lCNnJaX3lPR0RfYTRwSXR0RGFWY2VNLVk0SllwNTdXekxveENMdjRWaFlPVWdHVHNIMFN0WjdhSU9zR1VhMzBscUJQMDJWQ0tnQzBXc0pVcHFxQVlNY0JfV3VBWng4NFM2aEU0MnpUQkZqLVFVcDhZZld6emFOVkRGVWhGNk5KU1lrZ3VTTVBlZVlBMlZpZz09 |
You say you’re a biologist, right? There are so many papers published on all the topics you’ve mentioned, and more. The consensus amongst scientists is so overwhelming that it’s no longer up for debate.
Instead of asking strangers on reddit to filter through hundreds of research papers for you, why don’t you have a look? Google scholar provides free access, and many authors will send you their papers if you contact them directly.
It may seem harsh, but you come across as being wilfully ignorant. I could understand somebody without a scientific background asking for help. But your entire degree has shown you how to find legitimate articles and how to interpret the research and results. Asking others to do it for you is just... lazy. | r/cleanenergy | comment | r/CleanEnergy | 2019-07-11 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBUkNqeU52VnQxWGtyajk2LTdSNU9uMzl0aGVnS2Q0bjRMeFh4ckt0NDlEQWVqTU9NSnBCRjdRZ2tlcXpSTVJ6SHhRUHZDUkxWZjhUdkR2VjdPaEh3cnc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCRWsxX0stY0F6U3A0MFdLUlZ6UUdPZjFtU2I4Tzd5SDdWOC03R2l1b3JPUS0yN0UzZW96XzhrTDc3d3ZnS0dBVUQ3XzJuVkFrLTVVSzVWcHF2djV5QUMyYzZSeG51dkpwaHY3RFp1dnVIQ2xudnNYWHhtbHIwdW5Iay01SkJSdS05bDlnZE1vTWlRSWlYa2RjcWlkM19kYjhJRlVRWVJ3dG90cGVUUGtETzh2TGdvX3dWQmtNUnJNTDJldWVnZnZZemZMQVFkRlFmZTBCOUY1RDI2MXBVZz09 |
Not a complete answer, but the "97% of scientists agree its human-caused" is a myth. The results of the study they did were misrepresented, and its actually [only about 32%](https://pjmedia.com/trending/libertarian-group-demands-nasa-remove-false-97-percent-consensus-global-warming-claim/?fbclid=IwAR3LJNYv_5n16yXoIH7BC9LG8KyGUHS2bDMTZeZaNE6G74zOeBQxQ9GBIso) who agree that it is human-caused. | r/cleanenergy | comment | r/CleanEnergy | 2019-07-11 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBRmIzdEJQczVKUjlYOTJ1QnlTZDBiaGtoNE13b1pyS1V4d3Y3cFBxLVFNS1R0bV93b2N1NTV1ZFdVX2NMQ29MU01wT1pia0FvVzktMzgyb3M5emM2SlE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCWlotUDBCN3JsQk5pUmtPaVZVSVZvM0NhWVhGXzBrblcydFlFNks3X24weUZLSEROb2lMdExOdklnLVlRbmVCQ2IwTjJzZDR1QjR3N3hUei1UcUtsWDhUcFJjdGpXckIwNmxsSzAyWUJGdlhHQmR5M1dxb2xTT3pUZHYwQWZWYzRZX0VYZDR2cDVHbF9zS0hZNXZJQndLaGNGT1pkeDdmaTJVWHBMTzJ0Qk5EbVl4SGx2WU10X0haUm9WX3VscVRxZFB5RDdrMEEyX3l4dnFYN2s2S3JwUT09 |
That is bullshit! That's if you add the number of studies who didn't adress if it is human caused or not. | r/cleanenergy | comment | r/CleanEnergy | 2019-07-11 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBaXJIZXhfTlpwWUE1YjdNZnE5WFNrWU5pa0VYeWV5TjJWSTZnQjlYUktGQjJMbW05ekJiYXgxUlJSMlZaYVJHZHJadEFzUWZnNTJnSkZXWC1pZWhBZ0E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCbnNMYlAxV3llNFJ2LXYtYzh5T2hoY3JsS1Y1RTdoaFYyOUx6VDJxN0prWTlQUlA5WDJWemtoX0pjbDl0S3BTWjJoT1RjWWpsaTA0SWhZUUpid0ZxdEszSDY3LVJyOGdrWHh0cDVaVFJIUnpxODg5QjVaNXdsYy05OEs5UUlpaC1vSUhQMHpqSVFOSDZwcUx3aV85bDhXZnNQQWdTWUY4bVlHMmNsbW5WN0FISENMbG1WblhzdjBIenlENU9zdWVHOXMwVS1QUEUtQm5wZzhuSGctUVNqUT09 |
Fair enough.
I never said I was a biologist, but I did study biology. Biology is the study of life not atmospheric chemistry. I have questions and doubts, so I figured I would ask the people in this thread. I assumed that this thread was filled with people who are well versed on the topic of climate change. I have looked through various research articles, and I have yet to be fully convinced that humans are the very cause of global warming. Am I not allowed to have doubts?
I understand there is an overwhelming consensus of scientists that agree we are the root cause of global warming, but that does not mean it should just be outright accepted. At one point, a large majority believed the Earth was flat. People died refusing to accept that.
Google scholar can only take you so far. The deeper you dig into more specific questions, the more difficult it is to find an article that is free to access. It’s a search engine that takes you to articles, but a lot of them require payment before you get anything more than an abstract.
Call me lazy. That’s fine. Name calling isn’t new to me. I find that a person who sinks to that level needs to look at things from a more objective angle, rather than having a toxic subjective view. How can things be properly discussed with that type of behavior present. You need to learn to have a discussion rather than belittling any person that has a different belief than you.
Just to be clear, I believe that humans have a large impact on global warming. What the hell else would happen from emitting millions (billions? Trillions?) of gallons of burnt fossil fuels into the air? | r/cleanenergy | comment | r/CleanEnergy | 2019-07-11 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBVG90NHFiT293MXg5UzVjR2hEVW9WOW9uTzdHWERWQkctOUcwMjEwRTEzMmtDU1pOLXdnbmRtWjJmUzZKWGhnX29ZTnNCOFNHOFg3V1hmcnZVS0pYZHc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCRU1vTVRGeHJ3MUEyMmV0c0lRb0ZzaDF6Qm4weVllOU9ybkxxaUtfYXQ3azdJMUM3MktCRHRuRDItSVE5aFEwb0JEWXV5Y1Mta1RHdXJweGZLOTlIU2JERGotSW1SZXRZVDFHMjZkRVRScWhxN0V4TC1INDRmZFl2bVR1U2J4TzBPMktqc1FVT1VmRjZLY2pvZ2E4WXF3a0FLSUFLNVh4UUxwMFNjeGJkODNTNGoyZ05PSDZCS09JSkwxUF92d0hrT1ZtNWtpUWhPNDlxbElhMzFQMFBydz09 |
That’s not the most credible source you pulled that percentage from. | r/cleanenergy | comment | r/CleanEnergy | 2019-07-11 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBLTlQZ3FDa3RGYUU4b0pvMGxXcWpHRjFKdjdIYWdobHU4LVRmeEpNaWlrcWZvQklUUHluTlBFLWYwaFg5U05FUEpkZjJnMXBQRmR6QS1ZVHR2dXozWHc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCQXFCLXRFTzZQTmNMWTZhaXhBbzdCWVFYV19nQ3hTZXJVUjFwNHRmb015RTZwcGFmblR6cTFEOVo1WC1GLUhLdG1VTjBEM09CV3BKa2o4NFFBQk9HLXZJanFaOW9zcWZlNWd1UllEazg3aUw5Slluc2J6d0R2Nk1DLWJ3ckcteTVPTW1hTURobzVJdHpxNHBuQW5pVC12d2ljV3hBaVlEOHNqc3VYRVFvaHl4M2Y0WVcyZWF1MFBldG1rRUUxQVFMQW5PMUdvUndZZWRHM2FPOUVzNGIyQT09 |
Yeah I know, and it would be irresponsible to ignore all of those | r/cleanenergy | comment | r/CleanEnergy | 2019-07-11 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBRG1YVTNIVGZhbHc0Q2RYLXZXa0I5RXhHemJoNTRDSUo5TGtSUlJFb0ZNN0FzVjl1UEFXNHNkakRqN2twMjJfYXROUFltckI0WnFXaVE4VjduYUkySGc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCelJjRlptb2ZKek84ZjVXeVNjalpCQ25pc3R2UmRUVzlBRm80akhKSHR5ZEYxNXJqMXRnS3ZqWF90SFhFdmZHTUg2VHN4UlJEQUxwT3J0SURRV0pOcGlmd19lZng3czIzaG9YQXlza0lSNnB3ZFh3TG1yUHAxSDZUTS02aDBNMDhGaHRLaDNIc1lvSW1JbnFtVnRpN0d6MWZCQWZOOGlabldJNmxNWFNOQ0FmUHR2UW1UckkxMmJ1Q2JpTFphS2NyaENFRGNDOFRBTFF5NFdCY3pBVjhodz09 |
How about one of the scientists that wrote the paper claiming that his work was misrepresented? https://twitter.com/RichardTol/status/337126632080957441?s=20 | r/cleanenergy | comment | r/CleanEnergy | 2019-07-11 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBeFNmY1BqdWJkdkJfbmlIdnVhX3JhZmhaX0stNGFWYVZPYVRNa2ZfZkhqSGFjN19TRGp6MTdvMHQyY2hXVUVxMnhSRmRxZElGWkZNd1d6bEFhN3pOUnc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCcjYxZXdPczlHRTJJelF0UUpOWkxrTWNLRjJrbDJDbkJacGE3Q1BlWUltR0tsekFsUFpwMXZIdzh3SHJSSkdONlBtemlHQW1SY3owV2k1djM3Y3hFUUFOR0E3aVp0eG1SOFZZZFFWeVJMZ2xyTkNST25Kcno3NGxVTGtfamVSWTRTTzBqR3FPWjgxOF92Tm5SZ3hTVE9Kb3dFOW94S0U3MmM1LTdmdHZJUG5ydXFFdGZ5SkRMVjk5aktiUmRkMl9CVTY1aDQ5LWdnUVlnaEpILXR4Mlk4QT09 |
They speak about other aspects of climate change and not about if it is manmade or not. It makes zero sense to include them.
You could also include studies about penisses and assess and then say, "oh only 2% of studies say climate change is manmade".
/t | r/cleanenergy | comment | r/CleanEnergy | 2019-07-11 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBMFJYMUVmamdPSFo2U2NNTFczaUZLWkthcEZCTDNfSm9sdmVUV1BDYlhvTkVmMnYyVW9kR29rVVROZ0pJMFZkajR5LVBEN3VZaE5MN2JLV3R0MnJKR0E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCakZPeEtvb0NmbHJUQ2dFdl9XOElWRXdHcURTWDBud3psQjlMX3hxc2JhV2tVSmtJdi13NkpGeDNvb3Z2WGdqMlphWDM1QzJxcXkwRjZ4TVhJZGpUYWRJbkxYeUZtQk1iOVEyMEcxb2NLWldPeXBkYUtZazFQeWJ4bzdiQnhVMVptMlpWN3NCQ0FsZ0NVYWhZcVZjRWJDQzVseFhnUUtKdmtOZ1NSUnI3SUpKMW5zOVE4VW9aWDEyQktXRXc4U1JpWklIbFNITDFXZnJIb3g4OEI0dVFxdz09 |
Were these works pointing at human causes for global warming? | r/cleanenergy | comment | r/CleanEnergy | 2019-07-11 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBSDdaRFNwOFZXNV9DTjdUc0RGVTFFYzhmUUdQNjRUY1Qwcy1PTnY5SFdTamJVV3FwaWVjTWNjOHloYXk4dEZTS3RLV1UwUnpUUFhXcng4WU5DUVFZckE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCZExpVE16ekloNTQwZTZ5bWFvVTltUlIxWkhkWVNpSWVyRWFFdzFhZURTXzdqREdtNzBVUkZqNXI3U0RLT1ZCdU4tWlpmU0xaV1dMLV9yMDVZMkFvY0VvcXhWVUhudHozczBCZGp4ZkpxeXNpMVN1M3F6eTI0ZEdOa0phd0QyUkpPTHJ6aGYzdzVjQTZZbmZMb1RWaTlzdWpjeFNzVThITDBOa2otT0Z0RmdFT3k0dmNHanVHQ0dOeVBMQ0VkLTZGWE5tQmM2U2tZVTBCVFBKV2xzMDlEQT09 |
Then the relevant question (which I don't think is in the linked article) is did all of the "nuetral" papers directly say "we don't have enough data to say whether it's human caused or not" or did they just not mention it at all? Those are two very different things. | r/cleanenergy | comment | r/CleanEnergy | 2019-07-12 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBUmsyY1RSTHZrdi1kd00zVWgxd2VaTmctUGItZjVDbFdFeWhQUUhFa3N0bzlrWTRZXzc0bWFwVWFkVjEzVWVHbE5VUGpPRHhod3c2ZGZPN2lXRDZZbGc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCbmk2QWFiTDFBTDN1WUg0RkNPZEZNcnN0UVZiVTBlN25rQkp1bF9VdURBRGV3XzkydzloQ09SWU9iVEVHSUZfV042TVhNcXl1NzRBMXVHUUVLQlBpTmFNZ3BzSzhNUERLRVAzOGc3R0pIQ0FoQjEyaFY1RGJTQmRwQ1BkdHJYblB3WjZ2QUUxc19UdGY3WFd2MFlSUUR1djlEekNKNDhfSTBVWFJlWGFuQjZEc1c3SS1KbmRaZDE1WmhDN2VrdlpuRi0yLTJnVDJWX2NfWkRKRkZBUTFEQT09 |
Not mention at all. | r/cleanenergy | comment | r/CleanEnergy | 2019-07-12 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBaVBUQUlmX005OUlkVlR3TG03XzlIUEhnN0pidy1UWXc5cVNMNl8ta1hCNTdSVDhZby0zUHhBSUQxb0g1Ri1LRE9aNXJXWkdnVWtxNGxlNzBTTGpXd3c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCLVVpNDEtcXI3aDBTeWJSYnFpZmhZWDFyakw5ZFpGVUdldm5NV0ZtQWxpV1hsSllVQ21zajYyN0xEV3YxWU9JSFhOakp2MDVOQ1phSzZQSU9HNEZKdmZkZVFBcUk1Y25vLVN6WGV5a1dDQnFQbzUxZmw4WkxLZmJFZEM1QTliVDI2dF9mX1pndTJFeDZPWDRlYmUwN2llVWViY3ZielNyQ0twbXdCVmJiWkxWY2xXMFJYNHJ5MXRpUGIzRzEyRXdNZ2tMZDduN1JVV1poWVVmX01Tc3AxZz09 |
**Abstract**
>AI Ethics is now a global topic of discussion in academic and policy circles. At least 63 public-private initiatives have produced statements describing high-level principles, values, and other tenets to guide the ethical development, deployment, and governance of AI. According to recent meta-analyses, AI Ethics has seemingly converged on a set of principles that closely resemble the four classic principles of medical ethics. Despite the initial credibility granted to a principled approach to AI Ethics by the connection to principles in medical ethics, there are reasons to be concerned about its future impact on AI development and governance. Significant differences exist between medicine and AI development that suggest a principled approach in the latter may not enjoy success comparable to the former. Compared to medicine, AI development lacks (1) common aims and fiduciary duties, (2) professional history and norms, (3) proven methods to translate principles into practice, and (4) robust legal and professional accountability mechanisms. These differences suggest we should not yet celebrate consensus around high-level principles that hide deep political and normative disagreement. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-07-14 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBemg3VlI1OXNfRG9lS0VPUDRzcWw0eHJyb1cxREg0VWdCTTJZM2J4SnpQbWpsZDFac1ZzcTRPWXV3eTh5dGNrVDA2WEF5YUR2RlZOU0t6MHZ6ekVraHNZQkR1bDFlQU1ZZ1hNWVdVemNpejQ9 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCTzZjVk1EZE9hM2hsUmxac1h1dUNRNHVaeDY0VFlObzRBTmpYOEIxbHI1amNXVnNDcGV2SkpmU1hjOHR2cVQ4N3BEVWRhcGJXUXAtR2hmc2dLSnBMTXl0dWFiaElPZlpxbEg1ZzdsQTE2bHpiSHRrY1NhZThvbWhreTVjSHJqbjZObElKeWUwWEZqTHRkbHR0VVJYaHFZOEpBQldWVVliQ3RHQi00dXk0aUhqLTJZTVZDOUYzLWlraEl2N25UZ2kyS041VmttTzhRRUlHMUs4Mm53a1JiUT09 |
I really like Mittelstadt's perspective in many respects. In a talk I gave last Thursday at UNESCO, I argue that Information Ethics in general should be articulated around the subject at risk (Computer Systems, Social, Economy, Humans, Nature...) rather than the technology being used.
This is why I'm reluctant to consider a specific topic "AI Ethics", and rather teach about information ethics in general, with specific risks induced to humans, society... by various combinations of information technologies, AI techs being just some of those combinations.
[the slides](https://home.thomas.baudel.name/nextcloud/index.php/s/qY3QDZeyaHwyYtE) | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-07-14 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBZ2QyQmN6MzVjUE1RdHRXZ3QwX0twMVRFbVpiRXNfVE9aejFZRl91RzJxb2tMMnNRVnBnWmY4VU1GUTNXS2RLTzdUd1N2cHdIQVllb1ZpblRzZC0yNlE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCNzlUVXMzd1RsR2tFOFRiZHdIV3hZeWdGMGRQU2hPU2NDa2dPZHBuX1ZjeGpDLUpWWGRZc2o3QjVNbDhPYmtsYVFEYzhIdGg0RzV0TElMRmRSX0RjdEVSNjkxNmQxb1c4M0M5OHBpcTdwYlpJWlJHS0hoS3kxOVJMaWlRVWItMXBqeldTNlZPUUpMSldCLVh6WmxjbXdDQ09Pem1oalgwUjByYk1YZDFUanhPMGdQYm5US1hqTXRLQ2IzTy1tX1lBQ3lfS2tUeHN6bm1iS0t1QjRBUFRlQT09 |
I feel a bit bad that you haven't had a response to this, but unfortunately I also don't have the time to read your 79-page paper.
It's not really clear to me to what degree you have indeed succeeded in capturing human motivation in a mathematical system, or what the significance is of what you actually did. It seems natural to me that if I know all of Jenny's (low-level) preferences, and express them numerically, then they could be combined to reveal her (higher-level) preferences about different situations/actions/choices. But some of the main difficulties are to figure out along which dimensions Jenny has preferences and how high/low they are: i.e. how would a manipulative company know that Jenny's conception of the value of money is affected by her desire to buy a guitar, and how do they know she values this at +33? Solving the combination problem certainly seems valuable, but it's not clear to me that a simple additive model works. For instance, in Fig. 2 we see that Jenny's attitude towards "Get $50" is +64 which is the sum of the "Value of $50" which is +45 and "Trust in Kyle to actually pay" which is +19. But I would think that the combined value here should be multiplicative: Pr(Kyle gives me $50)\*"Value of $50". Of course this is just an example, but I'd imagine there are more cases where simple addition doesn't suffice.
But like I said: I didn't really read the paper, so maybe you addressed all that. If so, you may have solved the [value learning problem](https://intelligence.org/files/ValueLearningProblem.pdf) or at least contributed to it. You could seek out AI Safety researchers who are working on value alignment (see /r/ControlProblem's wiki and side bar for some links and resources).
If you're worried about potential malicious applications of SBST, then I suppose some degree of caution is warranted in spreading that knowledge. You could refrain from publishing completely, or omit talk of nefarious applications to avoid giving people idea. However, those solutions are not overly satisfactory. You could publish the general idea, but say that for details to reproduce the work they'll have to contact you (in which case you make it harder but not impossible for people/organisations to use this without your consent). If you could come up with a counter-strategy, that would also be great. But even if you can't do any of that, you might still decide to publish and promote your work if you think doing so will bring more good than harm. I should note that I don't necessarily think targeted ads are bad: if a company somehow figures out what I truly want, and uses that to sell me a product, then didn't I just engage in a transaction that I truly wanted (which seems good)? I guess there are probably worse ways to use this, though...
Good luck with your work!
Edit: just wanted to add that I think it's great that you're worried about the ethical implications of (publishing) your work, and seeking advice about it. That's already a fantastic attitude to have! | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-07-19 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBVVdjOWRzYnh1TmtwVVhvQzhXOGRwUDlVZ2FmUVI4MjMtNGx0Zk9EU1FyTHFSX2Q1V2Vsd3VvZWVTSmZHX3dfZ1BnVWthN3hKNU9JcFhvNzh1ZTM3NlE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCVVlTVk1vXzI4UVA4dnVZZUpXR1g3MHVURnRmOWpIRTJrOGwwRnNmb3daSVBzc1VLaGpRcXphbUp6ci02emxmek5hTVZUVnRwYVlMQ1l0TW93aTMtZHBNOWlRUlFjMW9zZ05EOVNOUzNETWk5MWhJUjcxS3VOTlB4VEtacjNEaHo3ankweFh2UGY4SzhiTVRpWl9NSHVRYlhYVmp0cG9iRG1kTFFNbTFtZ2ZNcWoxcmNYOEYtaVhDVDNxcmRtTkpB |
This link doesn’t seem to work :( | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-07-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBVk14WGhtTjByVlhrWGFxS1hDMkk2R1R5RUc2T0FCVmU5dFVqVWlBaWgyUVZTdENJSWhqczJPQnJ4LU9aRlFZN1hoS1JkekhoVUVLTkp3MkVTbHlwVGc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCaHZRZWhmOEdBRGZWVGRLZmMyMklSVkp4d0ItR0dSMlN5N2RWalcyMWdrR1VzanpqSXNLV1EyNC1hUW9URUZ6Wms3WEJoM1RvNWJFYTQ2bVpJSEp5R2FGRHJfX1o4SzVzMm1XaXZqM0R2RE1ZNmdvbmctWjdKMzVQUGdVNjZ4dEo5cVViYlFzSjEtU1FNakR2eXMtMGNGTGNOQ3lkWUxFZ3B1UHUxU2lPbkYyeVFQM2h4NlJTUnRFOXpndmVFbm9UX3BHVUl2cWpaeldsa3h3WU1Pc29lQT09 |
First of all, I am in no way a scientist and i dont really know a whole lot about how atoms and molecules.
So I’ve been thinking about waterpollution and how boats who are using gas as fuel pollute the water. Now that there are hydrogen motors being made is there a way to use the water the boats are floating on as fuel? Think about it, water (H2O) is made up of two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom, if there was a way to spilt the molecule to produse hydrogen from the water, couldn’t that be used as a fuel source? Again I am not a scientist but if i learned anything from science class the only bi product would be clean oxygen. Ofcoure there is other elements in water, Especially salt water, but could that be an idea to come closer to only using renuable energy? As I pointed out erlier I dont know a lot about this topic, its just an idea I had.
Edit: just did some reseaech on hydrogen engines and another bi product would be water, the more you know | r/cleanenergy | post | r/CleanEnergy | 2019-07-28 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBeUFDT2duUGJJVmJQN0JreFl3Y3M3SGg2Yl9aRDJaYURDMVZXb2JZUld3cDFidG5uSkVkQnpXVTQ3b2V3X2gxNnhVRWtHd3VXcUxybXJhUENfTEI5bXc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCX29naGF5ckZRWVRST0UwTmhzelFEallFSUtabzRraHE5Sm1rM192WGppYVlJaE5LYjBGSUhWUExtb05qcXNpUzVVdm0yVURSZlQxN181RjBzWVRzMFFBR2tDbEtPTXZUUVhkZElWdUlrd084R0FkV2tnTFJrVG1ONHdrSkdLcE1xVkJJUlppbGZBbGhIaHVtRmJpbWxMQ3lqVG16eWRGTnlWUEctUlVmMEJsN2IxWUZtQktIOUljWnFZc0NMQmtu |
Dope work, I will read it in more detail because it looks greatly summarized. I just skimmed the document and it feels very promising: the important sources are all there and the format looks light enough.
One paper you might be interested in and that I didn't see in the sources is this: [https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract\_id=3078224](https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3078224)
It's not strictly about ethics and maybe you know it already but it's so great to me that I suggest it everytime I can and maybe can inspire to improve some of the content. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-07-28 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBZ3Q0N1BLbFBiTUpFd2Y1MExPMkNRVUNOWVFhWE5xR0V2TU92R01xNDhoTnFkYTkxTF83R3NhOVdWVTVhZXdzQmdnYTJRQnpJVlBWYWNXLUdmSzBDV2c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCYlp2VjNjMTNfTGtMZVRreEc3V2lTRGNMM21ZLTgxQlF5LV9iSVdHeVpBbWlxZVVIX0FrVFNXWk03VXdjS1BfZ2U2UHhENURfNld0czV6VVdLUlR5a3Vla2FBTWFLVGg0Ty1WbG9qTnNYY2xRSEUteGNoaW1BVG5xVm5iRGNEOFR5Rl9pMTAzMlpTWC1wT2c0Z0pLQmI5Slk4czBkTzFFYUw2TXZNejhqaG5lQmczRXdtb3pGS2dNUUFNTUZyWVVSVnl1UXVLMld0dXJPTjZRVWFOZGlvZz09 |
There are energy intensive ways to split water molecules into hydrogen and oxygen, but the energy needed to do it still needs to come from somewhere. So hydrogen is considered a stored form of clean energy rather than a source. | r/cleanenergy | comment | r/CleanEnergy | 2019-07-28 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBdEFkWGlDbmZCU1FOT2lSVWd0YjduQ0xVSktYSVVFZnBLdk9WdWdpQU92U1NJUEV5TGhnQ2FUT1d5V2gyTnJCUFIwVTZsdXRtajZfMHlPcldET0xIbmc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCbzhwNnFSOWwyNDNhbFZzdHotOHJOSWh2MGc4b0NHZUstRFlmS2lYTk1TdUI4MWJ4S1BldUhzTjMyS21ZMFpISEJkU0F1S3o1Y04wQVFuYzVLeG1ESUxNX0o1Y0JkTFhLV1QwTk9GcDljSEYxVmdvWTRKd04zTkRKSTUzR1RmWm1PVW9PSVctMFVJUUo5YVdOUG5iQWs3RG5qal9KVWF3TTFFSXdKYzRrS1luSnFuQnlGUTBUaloxMGxPUnB6NFBNc0prYjVIVEc5NTZxMEF1NFFWZ1dBZz09 |
Thanks man! Haven't seen that paper, I'll check it out. The Berkman Klein Center seems to be publishing some nice stuff on this topic. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-07-29 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBR0ZHRmpiMi1jTzcxRHJ1NVlWX2ZQYVhwVkdZSVNBRjFPT05TdnNXSXMwdmVvZ3g4akQwV1F2cXBZUUVoazE2bkFUeDZyUTRTbnZTb05CbFptc29tYUE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCelRNM2dqT09sdWNLMUkzVDZ3TWp0RGU0RVhieGp5VjhZZmtBYmRTc1pFNUNXTThaclZJNWpmd1Mza3ZKdm91VlJMUmJtQ0d1QVE2NHFxblIxQlpLNjhLekVrRHIycVhwanJrNlpBR0pTdHZUanIzVlhRUERlWWFHUE9KMy0zdVlDYXNMejRiNGlsVG5WdzM4azdaVGlnandrUWM2WWc4UWg1Si1tdHdIaTZTY0k4QWtQX0sxWWk2NUNLTkJkMEVUbGxGRGhfSlJyTzEtdVV5RHlpbEFYdz09 |
That makes sense, thank you:) | r/cleanenergy | comment | r/CleanEnergy | 2019-07-29 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBNGdzeDRGUEJGNl82X2FCNEltRVZ3OWNUbGNtWjBjWVZNVU04cl9IWGJjS0VUczg2djNEVm9NRjRHZlV2VzY4SmQ4Qkdsdm50U2NNVFRtWWh5MllLU3c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCX25YWjg4VFFfMTY1dE94ZWg4dHUyTFROMU9zSFVKSjA4ZThCeXNSWUxrdHdmZWw5cVhyMjU1LXlRZ2Z3eGlsNWZZTk5pTlhNY3pTaTlJUkprWVFkMnNiQ0FiTGU1dXFxMUFlOWxHbk5fd3hLOW5Va1lTOVBjdmlyWnpOZkcwbFZDQl9keWRhbHI0U0x2UzZDQVI5bkVMMkZHY2p5ZUc0X0JVM0JCOC12VU9JM2YwUk9wYVJrUVljbVJmYUZUV0dlVXNpdDFTSXVSWk5fMlItdGhUMlgzUT09 |
**Abstract**
>In this paper, we (1) argue that the international human rights framework provides the most promising set of standards for ensuring that AI systems are ethical in their design, development and deployment, and (2) sketch the basic contours of a comprehensive governance framework, which we call ‘human rights-centred design, deliberation and oversight’, for ensuring that AI can be relied upon to operate in ways that will not violate human rights. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-08-10 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBZGQ5Y2VvaVBsdmZLRy1Udng0VXZxbGZTdGFXLURhUWRpM3ozdVg2cWtJQXRUNXJWb09WZFd6OWZyQ0l6eW0wcjhvTGdTNWxkWExZZkxjQ2NCeDhURXptODEwR2hvaUtpU3ctS0kyX3Rfb289 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCdFVxcnFFSWY3MVN0clNmS3I4eXhuSXFWX0pRZllIVThmTmM4S3ZtcXdYWDVfcU44WHgxNkVnZ2ExZm5pNzB0Um9xYjA0YmMzM1BBNHBNLUo2Q25veURsVV9iOHdlUWhTQTJHOU1OYlF3Qko4cGIwSU5Ea0Z1U1lyS3RWNml3Uk53c3ZDSHVwM0stdHI4dnhzU3VzeDdRSnAyaE5PS2k2ZmgzQktERHRUZWlJbkM0Q3c3d0VOeXpFcUZabE9mR3pUWmZ5YzhUQ21LSWtaX1lCSkxiNVNqUT09 |
Browsing through this paper, I see no reliance on case studies, no pragmatic and concrete proposition anchored in engineering solutions to ethical issues, and no actionable recommendation from a legislative perspective.
This is like the dozens of papers and orgs that make the headlines these days on AI ethics because it's topical. Go read danah boyd, she at least is careful to anchor her proposition with concrete applications. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-08-10 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBM3FUYzZEWWQ1Y19fanlteU9QSFFvMHhyMWFVRE9hS0Z2WHFXeElvaFRwUkt5c0RyQnNUdHptOTdPa1E1Tko3X0poNVZiOGIyTDllSkhOUUVVQ0VSa2c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCMlNlUVF5WDVydlhvWEZiWWVzTDJKU1JqV2JQVmtDZldpakd2Z21qcXlkandpaldRMWh2V0s0N000ektMdV9ZLVhJcmRKZHdHaWMtVDFILWNuTHJ6OENKc2pzZ1BxYUs0dkZGM0dvX1I2X0d2am9CYktkMEhROVBSUG1VRzN5VTh4UlJBOTc0VTRWNFNmSnIzQzRHN0hIQVFESldIOFpBVFM4VHFlWUVkcXpFcS1kYjVsalBCT3RFSHhGZVdOVVgxSVNjRGNPMFpTX3JzNmRTOC02Y3dGQT09 |
what did she write about AI? I know her for a thousand other topics but never read anything about AI Ethics | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-08-11 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBWlVUZTRhSTNfSzVBZ2E2RWNKTnF2WUx4eUFQYXVBd2Jrb25qSG13dmE2anlMS3ZZbVlGcENqQ3lVMmNiam1ZeG9qTEpVd25UdUxTaXFqVlE1WHRjN3c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCTjFSV2RRanMtWENOT3g0VS1Tb2drajd2Ql9IdlAtSTA1bkNfTWI5UFAwVklsbF9CMW1EcFEzQWNCT3h5LTZsWHlSYXN5VVpFVHBLSmZyZnp2UU9zcVU1aVJFVVQteTlMTGQzWGl1aHhKU1U1QzFSSkt0aWhvRU5kVmkzZmtVNUc3OFdRU2MyOFRmc28wYzdzMXRwTmFqTndNR1lvZTl2ajVkeGlPellaTGxUUGg3eVN6MHMyd2NRUGJndFRLaXNkMlZSSlNxdU5CamdVQU5sNm9ydjd4Zz09 |
https://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2017/11/222176-engaging-the-ethics-of-data-science-in-practice/abstract
That's because, like more than a few, she's uncomfortable with talking about AI as a sound epistemological concept. As some have said: "marketing talks about AI, the hiring profiles mention *machine learning*, and what the actual product does is *logistic regression*". | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-08-11 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBVmNpZDBuRjZobGQyY2VQY2c4Ul9aQ2NKZzZQOGlTNHpxSjJxWnEyTTlQdlBOTDZmZHRENnYwRGRjbDdUUUdLYlR6RWxuOFBtUXdreXlQbUxvajE1bWc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCQ1JhazFZTFAyR0VmVHRfazFuWlVESVJqWDFUYjJ3MGlJV0pvV0VrOXFTeWNlUkxXVTdrdkxXZ2N4dzJQSGFpNWVSRHIwWFhFRmJ0MENLanhDVThzX21kNXllSDFTVWFXLVZDMkplZDU3eVg0MDJ1Z1RpaDFCUU1GNEtrQlkzeTJoY2d4YTBSQVI1NWwwUEh5aHVYZlhxUWJFU25uUlh5X1c0MkdyY2dPc3RGRjU0aUJjMTRyMmdGUWlqUUs0Y3p2Y0lRcEdpb2ZiZ1lEejVpVU1wdjFEQT09 |
yeah yeah, I know perfectly well, that's also why this subreddit name bothers me. I'm very vocal about the "AI narrative" being corporate/capitalist bullshit but since we were in this subreddit, I was using the language of this subreddit lol. Anyway thanks, I will read the link. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-08-11 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBeEJweGQ3YklLdVkwaGxxNHZOTEdDdWJNNXRKVGk1ZUR0RlZOeW45ZVRGaGhoTWNJbFR5a2hpemJUcWVRNEpWSjJIMXA2c2Z0dEVoQVFQUjB2QWtvNWc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCQ0RaX1ExMzkxMThuYlJHSDc4U2lsMm5uWWxIUlhzRDcxYkZsZkI4S0gyYjlnVWZJbVpfRHBKSmhCSWVtZXExUFItRE44c2tTck5sVWRzcEtlOC1maUZHOUZwLVV0TTFEWFFlSzVaWDNmYnlFY1JXQlZxc0EwVDFqekpqZHp3NkNMNFVLM3pPVXZxVlZfMXRuWERxRW91ZVdRVVFDRU5kcjBxV01GbzV4cm9pX0k4dndvTnFudDBMSUhjWXZ2UkxWRTljRXJBMEZLRXZwa2dzdE8yZGo2dz09 |
Just because it is hard to do doesn’t mean you can get away without doing it. Derivative works are explicitly part of copyright provision and it would be very hard to argue for it to be fair use. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-08-18 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBa0lYUVIxZ0dPS2NmQkRnS0pseUVYUjhycVhRS2ZWNXVVNDNEMFN6bHdpc25KRlptbUtsaHF5ZEN1aXcyb3ZyN2J2ZVprUkZrWkNsRm85dTNUOWRkUmc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCWVhNLWRlN2VPaTRCekkzMktoWWpuWHBsWjk0QUdHODRsSlp4ajg3SGY2eWdmeGVwZUMwdG5WbjhHcmdpRVBveUM3MkNyZWR3dG94SUVRbVg4TjM1UEZnQmFJVUJmRUZDdWxtNzFQa0RnUHh2YjVuQUNKMFAxa2ZMNUdoemk1UElTeWdiT1hzR0p4aWYtTzVRRUpQYU56OVEwQVUyTTMwNVZwUmpwSUJNTTdNPQ== |
I think it is impossible to tell what images are used in the dataset or to prove to what degree an image was used. The dataset comprises of around 100k images.
This use case is different than using images for for example a collage or an edit. Here the essence of an image is extracted rather than any part of the image itself. Nothing is new under the sun. Combining essences of ideas and works has been how new things are made since the beginning of time. The only difference is that the sources of inspiration of the algorithm can be explicitly pointed out if the dataset is published too. If someone can argue that the works produced by GANs aren't fair use, couldn't I then sue someone that says they were inspired by my Instagram posts? | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-08-18 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBSXhzZkJJNURQRkl3SExCenlRZDY3M3VwTHBvbEJZbnZGbE1JVUhZYXN1LS1FRjdtMUdWVjlDdVV5SE1MUTRtMmdXdTNwMTFWM1g1dkhSd1FVY1JRT1E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCaGRaeWZLZmJCUWVnZEN0SGxucUVraVd3QjVXU0JkQ19FMlpXdTZ5U0NpV0hKYzN0dHRpdDVRN1dtWHBoLWg3NGM3MDB3aEI3M3MxSEpPZ0tPS1BXMDVxVndoQjJLcEZrMktSa2QydV94eGZILXNWLWJFb3M4bUw3dm84M0RjQVhZV21BWE9JQ1dKR3F0ZFFIYnBreWNMNmN3RnJLaU14VGdpdTRkRWl6dzBZPQ== |
Just because it is impossible to tell doesn't make it ethical. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-08-18 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBZFlKS3B0b1lPUEJuRkc0eEE0dXdWYUNxMEJ2TExya3p2dU1BSnhPQ09oNTVjMVlaVUNoRjdWVGhsano4UWMwNFdZeHNPb01vb3haRjNRTTFKWjRkT3c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCOEJVdWRQdWpfSVRLUllRQ2h4VW1FZGR4dExBcHVzZUk2cFBmWFNFRklWZ2FKN1VPNDg0QkltNmlOYnlhLXFVWTRPSnBvaFZCTmxLWWRlOThZUUJxSjVUSlB5RHhrSmZKdU01VVZ3U2thQnNyZ0JEMjZQZFFpU0E5emJsUEd5N3lEOXBfR0wzeWJkRmF4YVlWV1MyalNxYVlMMGQwY04wd19ZRWJqNzhfb08wPQ== |
I once drew a drawing. The inspiration didn't come out of the blue. I've seen many works of art that are hidden somewhere in the neurons of my brain. Yet, when I draw an image it is considered an original piece of work while it really isn't. There are bits of Escher, Mondriaan and other artists hidden in that drawing that have influenced me over the years. It is impossible to tell what precisely the inspiration was just like the image produced by a GAN. Why is it different when a machine makes an image of its neural impression of art? | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-08-18 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBU0hDaWNqbmd0Nk1mN1ZqeWhaWW1DS0Jyd0dJa0xyd0swdmVCdmQwMEkxLWdib0VzUDJySllZQkZJSVhiSU9FeW40VnlaeThDaE5MNnZvTXBEVmplVkE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCNFhCc3JJeUZneF9VT0tUVFBzTXhHRnAwSWM3ZTB0WlM5TkJRWC03aDE5OGZGc3ZQNXBZRVd5UDNEZUJBTjFpdlBBeklYQ0tzNnZ2UTNVQjJVR1YzVlNfOEFHWTVUMm1DNlBIMk9TSjVpUWtmanVxNkdQQ3ZMSFJNcE82RGUxZjV5YWdMUkJGTTNaRURCZTV1T2REYVZxNFZReUNmQzc2MG13dGc2M3dUcENJPQ== |
Because you are taking other pre-existing images and actually using them specifically to make a derivative work. It’s not just a style or an inspiration, but actual copies of the works. More appropriate to liken it to tracing, and claim the changes made by tracing errors or “improvements” as your own. And this is covered by law in copyright, and philosophically also in various ethical approaches: deontological golden rule and virtue ethics particularly. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-08-18 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBd2c5eHBXejA0VU1vbnZVaVlERjRaSlctejZIb18tNC0tZ05Xc3FtTl9qZEd4WFZDaHpDcGNLOTlNcG94MjVEUzh0WGxWXzlUMWtRTTktYkhQbDg1RXc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCSTZESnBGQWcydWxGY21NNkNYMDdpME5HTFV1NTRBZkdTVkhrMDhOUGpUc1daUWJXXzV6MGdDR01FUmJtWF9OdVF5N00zaXkwZDA5M0tCQ0RaSzk4SDN4SjEwRURuakNFa1hONEo0RVFIUk11MUhrSUN6TjlYaldiMGNUUlVtZmNJeGFwZGZrRk96OWhqMExDME9WT2hUTS1rT29faGpjR1Q4X3gyc2k5eW1BPQ== |
That's simply not true. Take a look at the image that was sold at Christie's. It's not a copy of anything. It is a style and likely not all weights of the network contribute to the final image. When I train a GAN on faces for example the dataset contains pictures of both men and women, but the generated image is one or the other meaning that no specific photo is 'traced', but rather the essence of a face is extracted. Random noise is fed into the network as input and the resulting face does not exist in real life or in the dataset. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-08-18 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBTFh6Q1NuTDdLYklnWXRpNFpJak5QWWpVbXhMempfVml0M0x2Y2NrNlJMZWtjNzVQMC03RUdoenEtZjUwY043TTh3WFgyemVnelBGNjlDU0VoeWdFZHc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCTlZCWjRESmV4ZGtTOWlQdXRlYl9KcEpFNDFUR1RCNmxYT2dmdG1PTW9OczI5b2lqa1g2WEpUemtqX052TDBVMkkySk5rdWtGVjRtSW5PdDZyc0g0cDNIc0tvQWwxcEhnMlBES0RUTl9Kc2tZVnFrbkFvbWgxbmJmcHJ4cGNMOElZeC16WEoxOGw0TWk4eHlMY2tGTnIxcVVCSFVNSkZaNzlpOXZuRS15WWpVPQ== |
You’re missing the point of the argument. Of course I’m not saying that GANs are tracing of individual pictures, just like you’re not arguing that they are “taking inspiration” from pictures. But the argument is that the pictures are used specifically, rather than generally, as in your position.
You’re trying to find some ethical position to back up you doing something that isn’t right, and I’m afraid it’s just not there. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-08-18 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBeTZ0VlhNa05YVlo1SGxGTHltekZFY3lVTDNvRklSd2lvdU1IYTQyVktrdGVzMmt3SFRCRE9RajFESElLRExEemNEYmxyMnNqakluNlhvWV9Hd1ZmSWc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCTVNCQVZuTDdPR2ZWZ205ZHRJZE1JVHBuWDBFREJvWU9LNlpnRmVodVFTMGFFZV9NNkxXV2NGWHVJMXM2TkJ6Mi1kQjZRUTRLczhhV1VWbnJwOVpNMk1BT0VhY3pNTFlJaXg4NVJKd1Nfak9NQ2tSZnE3YU5nZ0FjOHFxUV85SnZLRWEzb2p3U1NjN2ZaWnF4c2I3ODdpcWJKNWRhaXF5VnI2RG9yOVN5ZGU4PQ== |
You can’t directly compare GANs to human artistry. In fact, it doesn’t really matter how they work, the fact is that you are taking images and using an algorithm with them to create a derivative work. (I know how GANs work, but thanks for the explainer.) You can argue that the current state of copyright law is problematic, but that is not a good reason to violate it. And you haven’t given a good argument for violation of it anyway - if this were to be used to solve some social inequality or something, then maybe, but for art - and likely art you’d like to make a profit from - then no.
I wish ML people would stop trying to compare their work to human intelligence/brain function. It’s disingenuous at best and outright misleading at worst. What you’re really asking is “can I write some software that scrapes 100k copyrighted images and uses them to output a new image without needing to ask the owners if I can use their images in the process” and the answer is no, not ethically, you can’t. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-08-18 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBS2M3MDRGZDVsSkVYM1U2MktpdThEU1VvbmFBcUZDNmw3bV81X1poeEtTaWxTa0NMNlB5aGpkZHJoaHkwVS1zSk84YnF1NG1ZaHZiMGlzZk9CMUlyaFE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCcmxyV3BtS2tSRjJ5b1FKcm5MLVZTSmtJcUtuRjM0QUtnenBPMk93X1ZuOS1id2NrQjVPb0EzRU5ncnNYZTdwemk2NURQQW5WQno4VU9pdkFiOVZ5RUd5ZURIVy1ZTDZXeGlUSzRoODB0LUVMZ3pUM3VYdnN6SUVoRXY0bU9naURXRzBHejFvR1VVWUdFRUxUZ3FsT2hOb1FSbF84emdya1hfOGNBNTQ3dDFFPQ== |
Showing that AI can be useful by comparing it to real life is fine for a thought experiment but still ultimately misleading when it comes to reality. ML just isn’t doing what brains do. It’s not even simulating what brains do. It’s purely making predictions based on probabilities derived from observations of previous data, then checking against known good matches (however you want to define these).
If your output is scientific publication then that would definitely fall under fair use generally anyway, so I’m not sure why you’re even asking the question - except that in your OP you talk about art for profit. It would not fall under the fair use clause you showed if you used it for profit. You aren’t using the idea of the work but the work itself, that’s the crux. The ethical stance isn’t just about what you do, but in which context. For science, in this case, maybe (depending on the images, and a bunch of other things, see the “for science” facial recognition and creation of faces with “homosexual features” for an unethical example); for profit, those creators of the original works deserve their wishes of how their works are to be used to be respected. And that’s usually copyright law. If you scraped only free to use pictures, that’d be fine too (eg under Creative Commons appropriate licences); if you used a load of shutterstock or other stock photo image libraries, I suspect you’d be hearing from their lawyers. (And divesting this load amongst multiple picture creators does not lessen the ethical responsibility!) | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-08-18 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBcUh4bE1aNUtPWG82RlVwQ1VaNGJVZkFUUzlsY3ItRjhfcjhTLU5hZlV2bmZvXzVpal8xcDV2bVhjQkx5M2tNdFVXVk5zWmRVSWs1ZTZmTHdSdTBpLWc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCcXFwOERFejZGa0pjLV9zNVRha2pIS05YTlBNTGlaT1RlLUVscTlMRGJmSmM2V2JwellYOEVETUI2b2hmOW8wSkEyd0lDQnhSMEtteUh3UkdLT01rTy1HN3NqcDA0RXVHb20xbGhjVWZOV29oU3gyTkx3c1JKVVRyYk9rVzFZTGxWU3Z2MGp0SGJ2SDdjV3hETkdwZ0pWZXh1THJYTERnalNTZlBETW1JTnE0PQ== |
I think he's spot on and you are the one missing the point. That's not how this technology works. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-08-18 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBdTVBZ1ptTVdJY3ljUHlmYU9rNk5Nc0NPcUg2TzR2bmM0VnJLc2ZRNTF5NXY2V1JiU0ZtVTdBZExGYW8wYTRqUm5BX1pyY2NXRDZCUHptRlRoaEF2blE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCTjViX2JCSnEzc3BLQlNPSnlaVktLYy0tT0tfRWVsRk94aDBCM1dYUjduN00zR0tqRThXUFFnY3JHcnc1MUswMHY1OWZWdHFQako2Nl8yam9rSHZVSTNzNnhHX21keGcyY3ptZU94ZTlkUFBRYktUMFNsVE1TWlBxbVMwTHV5Yk9iT3R3cVFJczZEMFJaR3czakx3UDRQbGVabmxQLTNoN3VXMC1zN3lrT1NZPQ== |
You totally can though. This is clearly a creative process, doesn't create harm, doesn't steal resources or physical or even intellectual property and isn't being made with bad intent.
As far as I can tell there is no commonly held ethical framework that has anything negative to say about this.
You have stated that you believe some kind of framework exists that says that work incorporating the work of others requires consent, even when it doesn't not primarily come from a particular artist or even group of artists.
I think it's more like saying that I do not own my holiday photos, because everything in them is owned by other people and I didn't ask their explicit consent to make the photos. There is an extent to which all things fall into the public domain, and as such portions of their essence are free to use.
Your absolutism is nonstandard, not to mention highly impractical. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-08-19 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBMDJPZEdnamNwTDlaYUs5a3B4REtCNmNTdnQtYzJLU3RRaHhYUFNwWGZaaXJCa0Q4LTNLMnozM0tBYm5EaXY3RjVrcmxwX2VDWmstYU1pRWpYOEROSXc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCc01WRUpMUjFPVnY0cjNpVnNrNTdRTjJQX0d1RTkzOFg3My1vcTEwT2VnUjRZSGlqNUVLY00zZlVGaFNZZW5VR29DMURjMzNNbnlfcEdLWTZzcG00TGcwWHp2RXNfUC1rd2ZWc25yOFRTdW02dDlwSTlnVWpzY1R2ODBZVktjc1NRNUR0YjExQzlFLVRxaEJjVHYwQy1nX3dQRVduV3Q3NnRkdUZ3NG9FbWlzPQ== |
Like I said, if it’s being used for a reason that falls more generally under fair use, eg scientific publication, then it’s fine. But for profit? You’re running into issues of the creative process that aren’t well defined for ML and would fall under copyright issues that, if you take my shutterstock example, would be more obviously unethical. Extrapolating that back to individual creators of works is logical regardless of the difficulty of obtaining the consent. Codes of ethics including the ACM’s, are pretty strong on the ethical requirement to respect creators’ wishes for their creative works, ie copyright in this case. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-08-19 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBY19lU1ptUVRWUWxKSUlXWTY5cU93c3JrTWxlYmhNQnFIMVhHOF8yWVpmeWFJUkZnYnhTcUx6Uy1WV0k5RERYVkxMMGszckpqeGFReHBfNklyZFdsNUE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCd0wxLTE4cWhwVG5pa3VqTk9PR3QzZ1lqMF94dEdfRWo3NU54NXQyX0hTR3ViUkMxM3JVVjZuM1M5Q0tRYW5INEhBeGhwdWo4QmlpTDN1Tlo0SzVkMm5KWmhuZ01LVmRlSUlhNy1RaXUzWUtYVzhmbnByaGtLd1hWOFl2Mm04dVJpbmR2cjAzQVRvS2pqQnFYNDU2Qmk5MFNKLVNLeExxTXBYSGg5ZTVKNVQ0PQ== |
Check out this 45-minute talk by Nell Watson, founder of QuantaCorp, engineer, entrepreneur & tech philosopher. Please find the full talk abstract pasted below:
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The emerging field of machine ethics offers a revolution in how ethical analyses and transactions can occur.
By making ethical decisions computable, we can give a sense of morality to machine intelligence, such as autonomous vehicles and personal assistants. Learn how we can best program these fuzzy aspects of ‘humanity’ into machine intelligence, in a way which respects differences of opinion and creeds, and yet provides adequate protection for humans and machines. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-08-30 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBa2J2TE9qNUEwbVpHYzBSTDFtb1BUUEQzVTZ1TnZla2F1cFc0TTBNdjdjSm1qR3g2N3JyejIzTnFTT1Fpd3BTSFdqdElFOVRYU2dPUWRpbUc0SU8yZkE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCTVBweW02WEk5MmFOUkpOSWJsSndqTE8yVUlwZFRmNXdGWjE4Y29MUEFOZkwtcm4tWGM5akw2QzhCVmhWRjI0TGtxRC1tdms3YTVOYmdtblBEWU45SUVvRDN5Y01VMW1RekJaeFhMX1J1R3Z3UTBtUVdBcFA4bUZsbkdxWldTZ3habWdzZ1RFbk53TUo4Q1otbWNFN1lKNnpSVlFwTFFOdE01bjlESGdvVVJweDdyU2poaEFCUVowbHgzVndHVFdBS3lnRHhWRnFacElILW1WWWFkeEJoQT09 |
This has nothing to do with AI ethics, you might be a bit lost buddy | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-09-17 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBRFVMbDBBN2tNbUtFbmNBQ1RUbmFfR0pOdlhGc3NFMjl6RVZsdDBNSWdibmFvdFBjdkYtOTdnYW9OQ2NJZ3JycElNRkp1WWZQUzJlejhfbXd6TmdjVGc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCVnRCc0Y2TGM4cHVPQVVnVE5XT25pNVFpY2phejB4R1NxeUtrNGhpWkFBNnpJb0RpMzFwenlKa0NBT3YyVm1ZQnVBOHdKN2VubzVxejRHQnNpMG5udTNlUVJXaGhNWE1waWFxdVJ2Zk1pbkYyZjBTNDNkd3dBVzc3WVRhUDJoTGxkTW41MXoyc2laZk85bldQLUxzLS1xOWV6ODFFZ0ZNQmt2cVhyTm9WWW8wPQ== |
It might have something to do with it if this is a bot lol | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-09-17 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBVjVGcEp0cnBOUjBwQ0dpcXg2cm5VYUFHdGtkend2ZUx0QnFUTlVaSHVvNW1oVGU3WG84X25ZOWx1V3ozc1VyRmsyblVnS29vZVoxTGNkREwxXzFXUGc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCYmpDTW1DSy1sWWxOQUF0Wm05QTVFaG81NTFJRXk5Y0x1SHVRRDZVajdXdlBnOVo4a0ppbFBvMTlad2dZdWctS3FWek5DNjU3TnZxRnZmYUNzbkpxU0NVUWI2RmduNjRBUEhCbzM0TEMySXJfQ296ZGx6aHMyQU9BeWY4OFBZcm9IdVkwckNQQW5URnNtOF92Nk9kWGkzLXMzTC1UZDRGVU5JQ3puU0EwWFRBPQ== |
I'm sexually attracted to Minions
Whenever I took my two neices out to see the new Despicable Me movie a few summers ago I couldn't help but be mesmerized by those sexy little tater tots. Throughout the entire movie I had an ever growing buldge in my pants. Towards the end of the movie I couldn't take it any longer and had to... relieve myself in the stalls. I shot my load in the trash can of the Cinemark restroom as fast as could so I could get back to my neices. Once the movie had ended I dropped the kiddos off at vacation bible school for the afternoon. And with Minions, on my mind I drove home and looked at some depraved Minion pictures to say the least. For the past 2 years I gathered a rather large collection of Minion smut and sexual Minion art. It was all fine until Tuesday, my step mom walked in on me busting a fat nut into my Minion plush that I won from a claw machine at Walmart. She immediately told my hyper religious dad about it and now they're talking about kicking me out of the house (for the record I'm 21). But worse than that, the whole family has been degrading me for my Minion love and frankly, it's making me feal really guilty. So, people of Reddit, do you think my attraction to those fuckable Twinkies is okay or no? | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-09-17 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBWUR1MVFrWTBzU09kblR3blp5Ty1rYVIxc2NYTEJzSHhGM1l1ZVN3MTFkeHBLSm5LSjVkMW1acmdBc0ZfU19TdG00WHRpYW9xLV9VcEZBczVfMW4ya2c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCaGFXcGVRRUw1SGU3YlRRNlBVNGJkaFVheHF2dXVoRC1RREI5NkVzMzJfQ3dvWjVDSjFDNGxvYVZwbUI4VGlmWnVFcUNlT1lNbUlUY0gxVVlhNGZKa2szRk9ZZUF1VUdRN09WdjA5a1dibGEyZE9EbmxobUNUZUI1UDNWVjFiWm9SWGJoVURhVEQxc2gzckE3LXQ1MWR0RmtWaGU3RnA3Z0VnYkQwcEd2RjljPQ== |
Excuse me, what the fuck is this? | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-09-17 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBUHN2ZDgwdjhTRTZFTFBaV0tkQ3E2VFNCeUdqVjhpVGw5WGprWTQ0V0xxSEdvVVhzeC1XbGx2YlFmTGlTbW5DSlRRamx3c2QxR3hhQnNFaThtSVJ3T0E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCUHFpaHV2T19FUWx0R0t6bVo5TjQ5eHJSODZiMTRZVGJ4cG1FaERzdC1UdlNRLXFUZzVEUy1CQV81VHFxU1ZKNTkyenBBVWpGWURCLWs2RW5fYUpKUHZCMHJfaElpQnQ2bDgxV21vT2pNOXVCS01JZnNyZ1RFRzNwdDFqVll3NHNiLVpOeTAtWURPV0F6TUs1aGRGUTFLdmQxM0ZFaWVrQjJZdU1LbVJJQkpBPQ== |
I know nuclear power is a popular meme on reddit, but there is a reason its being abandoned globally; its that it is expensive and does not offer anything over renewable energy. It also does not count as clean.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2214629618300598
"Contrary to a persistent myth based on erroneous methods, global data show that renewable electricity adds output and saves carbon faster than nuclear power does or ever has."
It is also not remotely economical, as of the latest LCOE (levelized cost of energy) nuclear is over 3x more expensive than wind and solar. This means a given dollar figure of investment will give 3x as much decarbonization if invested into wind and solar instead of nuclear.
https://www.lazard.com/media/450436/rehcd3.jpg
Nuclear has never even been economically viable, it is never been done, anywhere without massive government support:
"Most revealing is the fact that nowhere in the world, where there is a competitive market for electricity, has even one single nuclear power plant been initiated. Only where the government or the consumer takes the risks of cost overruns and delays is nuclear power even being considered."
https://www.worldnuclearreport.org/IMG/pdf/20170912wnisr2017-en-lr.pdf#Report%202017%20V5.indd%3A.30224%3A7746
renewables are subsidized less:
https://htpr.cnet.com/p/?u=http://i.bnet.com/blogs/subsidies-2.bmp&h=Y8-1SgM_eMRp5d2VOBmNBw
And after all the subsidies nuclear has received, it is still not viable without subsidies, meanwhile wind and solar have many examples of subsidy-free projects
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-14/subsidy-free-wind-power-possible-in-2-7-billion-dutch-auction
https://www.pv-magazine.com/2018/10/31/more-subsidy-free-solar-storage-for-the-uk/
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/subsidy-free-solar-comes-to-the-uk
With the overall lower subsidies to the renewables industry, they have transitioned to being viable without in a very short period of time, compared to nukes which literally remain subsidy junkies 50 years after their first suckle at the government teat.
Renewables even make better use of subsidy dollars; the same amount of subsidy invested in renewables vs nuclear will give many times more energy as a result.
https://imgur.com/a/dcPVyt7
"Global reported investment for the construction of the four commercial nuclear reactor projects (excluding the demonstration CFR-600 in China) started in 2017 is nearly US$16 billion for about 4 GW. This compares to US$280 billion renewable energy investment, including over US$100 billion in wind power and US$160 billion in solar photovoltaics (PV). China alone invested US$126 billion, over 40 times as much as in 2004. Mexico and Sweden enter the Top-Ten investors for the first time. A significant boost to renewables investment was also given in Australia (x 1.6) and Mexico (x 9). Global investment decisions on new commercial nuclear power plants of about US$16 billion remain a factor of 8 below the investments in renewables in China alone. "
p22 of https://www.worldnuclearreport.org/IMG/pdf/20180902wnisr2018-lr.pdf
meanwhile, a study on nuclear economics show:
https://www.diw.de/documents/publikationen/73/diw_01.c.670581.de/dwr-19-30-1.pdf
and summarized here
https://www.pv-magazine.com/2019/07/24/nuclear-a-poor-investment-strategy-for-clean-energy/
"The economic history and financial analyses carried out at DIW Berlin show that nuclear energy has always been unprofitable in the private economy and will remain so in the future. Between 1951 and 2017, none of the 674 nuclear reactors built was done so with private capital under competitive conditions. Large state subsidies were used in the cases where private capital flowed into financing the nuclear industry. The post-war period did not witness a transition from the military nuclear industry to commercial use, and the boom in state-financed nuclear power plants soon fizzled out in the 1960s. Financial investment calculations confirmed the trend: investing in a new nuclear power plant leads to average losses of around five billion euros."
The results of this is that in 2017 there was over 150 GW of wind and solar coming online, but nuclear:
"New nuclear capacity of 3.3 gigawatts (GW) in 2017 was outweighed by lost capacity of 4.6 GW."
https://energypost.eu/nuclear-power-in-crisis-welcome-to-the-era-of-nuclear-decommissioning/
Renewable energy is doing more for decarbonization than nuclear.
Now the inevitable response is "muh storage" but
Renewables+ compressed air storage is already cheaper than nuclear
https://www.rechargenews.com/transition/1821297/liquid-air-storage-offers-cheapest-route-to-24-hour-wind-and-solar
"“For a 100MW system, we are already touching [a levelized cost of storage (LCOS) of] $100 per MWh today,” chief executive Javier Cavada tells Recharge. “In ten years from now, I can see that being $50/MWh. That's very doable.”
By comparison, a new pumped-hydro plant would have an LCOS of $152-198 per MWh, with a comparable lithium-ion system costing $285-581/MWh, according to analyst Lazard.
With a new gas-peaker plant having a levelized cost of energy of $156-210/MWh, and wind power at $30-60/MWh (according to Lazard), it may already cheaper to balance the grid using wind-powered liquid-air storage than fossil-fuel technology. And if the LAES system is “charged” using wind power that would otherwise be curtailed, the wholesale price of that power would be close to zero."
So we already have renewable+storage that is cheaper than nuclear.
Nuclear does not even work as a compliment to renewable energy.
It is a myth that a baseload generator like nuclear, ie something that makes a continuous output, is needed with VRE (variable renewable energy).
What you need is something capable of quick ramping up to fill in the gaps when no sun or wind. (batteries, Hydrogen, gas)
Nuclear is already expensive, and if wind and solar are cheaper 50% of the day (when there is wind or solar essentially), that means one would only need nuclear to provide "baseload" 50% of the time.
Except nuclear price is made up of initial capex more than fuel costs, so turning off a nuclear plant for when it is needed does not save money. What it means is it now has only 50% of the time to make the same money as before, so the price now doubles to the customer. Which is why nuclear will never fill the gaps in renewable energy, it is already expensive, and will only get more expensive the more renewables come online
Nuclear is a square peg for the round holes in the future energy grid.
Its decline will continue
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/EG.ELC.NUCL.ZS
Data for this post sourced from this effortpost: https://old.reddit.com/r/neoliberal/comments/aibdor/no_silver_bullet_or_why_we_arent_doomed_without/
and /r/uninsurable | r/cleanenergy | comment | r/CleanEnergy | 2019-09-26 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBWHU2N0tURDc5UWNrY0pkRTRkb21ZUV8wdUhTZkZDWUViLWRBak5fWEp5dlVqOWxvMDNmUGtBLWRDb1ZNbEtkSFIyZTNwYjVBUkFZNUtGM0c2aFhHN0E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCMHU5QUhwRnR6MklyRHFhNWlPaGh4bVNmLVlBaWxmTnlnMHg5VGZSU2laaDQ2TGk1bmt0eGdnVGQ5RjNZVDlaYWFDbG5WQnVZbnF2R211UVdqcFRJSmRwN2hIUVVkVG5PZW55UFBNMW5GdFNVb2piYTBPZlpQS2NtUE1jN3RmMWR3bDVoRHZ5MjdrZUNKVllSblBlTEI3QmdNeERQVzlfQ3o5WWVqNXVLN3RjZklCQmNiS1NSR0F4aHBUcVdsVEpIZU1GOS1VOUxNMjk3N1l6Mm1CamFndz09 |
If you had three times the hoops to jump through for regulations and safety you would too | r/cleanenergy | comment | r/CleanEnergy | 2019-09-29 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBdmZfNVN6dldJSDlVTlhLNkplNzlrdnVNRUhiSm54Zkx2aWM3MVh5T3ZhblRONWtNOGJ1YzF4bTRxTjhsRXFiVS1VeERMQVJKRl9xcHJvYkc0UmttQ0E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCc1RVZVhtNm93cTh4b3FnRG50SUR4MnBCck5xSlhFZWg3OEEtak9CaUpJaC1XMF9WVVVubDBCdkxOSHNKWGxJcEl1dlVGQzltUUdIcmxmVVZoNW9iaXR0UlBxYzNtcUsybTFvck90TEpiSS1rdG9mSFhBZWxneUNxaEVyY09mcUhWT0cta1Z2X19ySnRTeWUtN3gybklpMkl0akpDOVNfVExkNnB5OXd2ZE9BZ2pHRWFMcEotRDc0NWVyeDVta0RMRlhqdlByajc4UjlTZEF5dEhjd2tRQT09 |
> Renewable power is capable of reducing more carbon emissions per dollar and per year than nuclear energy, according to the recently released World Nuclear Industry Status Report (WNISR). The WNISR is about the nuclear industry, not by the nuclear industry—it's actually produced by an anti-nuclear activist. Naturally, the actual-nuclear industry disagrees strongly with the report's conclusions.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/09/nuclear-slower-and-pricier-than-renewables-says-anti-nuclear-report/ | r/cleanenergy | comment | r/CleanEnergy | 2019-09-29 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBSmM0SE44bUhfQk1sVEN3UXhjX1hEaHhzT3FTU3IxdmVxTng5RnNJc1lNNndZWmNRTjB1enZ0Z0F6UGtmSGZZTkcwaDZNLVJOaWtCTnpiWVBBWVRYUGc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCSkJDS1dpYjBZYmowbVRkV0VqalV5bzFqeXFxU3hCTlVUWFVkUl9OeWZHc3lrTDM5RHBsdW1DejM4cE0zZXVqZ1RFN2xobGJLU0poZC1YM083Q2VGVTJxWjVteGt2ZVdSZVhIek15aTFuajhXMVM2QUZKd0d0amdEcS0tOXV6eldJZEhyT0lPTUVzUkJsUEkzamNBTTg1aWM3MnZEOWgwZFpPY2xVbVV0RHVuSE8yRWtkYUNlOFo3Vk1oQ1B6UEhXNGxyVjdkdm05SlREaVl5cmtDNktkdz09 |
I've heard this before. The cost of batteries is massive and builds on itself. It would end up costing several times the cost of nuclear itself | r/cleanenergy | comment | r/CleanEnergy | 2019-10-01 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBMlEzM0JaaWxicTAwcXYxZV9SYWtLV3lCTV9PNFBEZGRPQldvaDdTZGhKRkNrR3diRDc4R0Qta0U0UllWRzVKcm51LTB2LWEtQWV1TmsyNlJEZS0ydmc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCOHBEVWRoOWM2cDFIUm9KSmtTY2dBNFMwU2E2THNLaUZLTkZ4R1J4SkdmeXVzOXNHd1FzS3ZPcldyVUtJLXlsa280ak9mcnJ6MHY2NmtxeENpUmxaZWotRnZfaGlOWjlPRDRvS0w2c01uSkllVkhvZVhnTTNzdEpXeGgxdFBfU25zS2FQLXdqX3VRaThiSlRnYXBPV3NELU52OXhiY0dZbHNUZGhnRF9LNWNXeGFlOExtd3didGdvR01TakFrVmNKUkw2QkJpbHJBalBNZGxzWFlaT25PUT09 |
The entire nation of France calls bullshit | r/cleanenergy | comment | r/CleanEnergy | 2019-10-01 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBbFBzZFo1dmszZ3ZSVVlseGlYN2V2dVZMV2k1QmlHNTYtc0tFVzlwVnJjRkx6ZUJ4VHJHbnJsMjkyOFlJQ0psWXlvd0VFMmlTQmJWc0hiNkpCM1lHTlE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCcEQ2MVJfWS00cVBGNjhKM1NxOUp1NTJHY0JsMFRLOW9BM1dHUTlRUnF4a0loZ0VBLWNhaEJvQktaenBvWXFPLVc4SFlsX0JURVNSS0MzQ2dmSW5aWFFyeGtVcmJXS0MxQmRUeEtLWGh5Z2gzZ0hkOGlkMU5obmdpUDF1WUJWbmk2b0szbFQtUC1RVmF6Sm9uVVpEUkNlbTcyR2NUYlExMVdLbUd1ZndZXzY4REZEUjVIc3BQT2dXUEZFMHpOcEVwWlprZHdxekFwSVE1OVcxd21veldvdz09 |
Allowing statistical model to implement the discrimination will lead to abuses such as the [COMPAS scandal](https://www.propublica.org/article/machine-bias-risk-assessments-in-criminal-sentencing).
The EFF is calling against HUD regulatory changes that would allow landlords to use AI model whose bias is not properly measured nor measurable to justify discriminatory practices. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-10-13 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBNXl4S19uc3U0clo3MTdpSVlnLVFDb0VIa25lZ2pLakVvRTM2MUR1MWtnVXlET2VQbHpZa2JZUmpYeUhmQ0RPc3FxRXNQZWF2TWdOY05vY0Z6UU8wZWc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCNlNrdGltM0txeVgzZE9LUlIzbTJ4OV9aWEMxbjZDU29fVlZVVEdSdWpKOVVTZV9BUU5DcDRfVGQwY2JycExRSVhfeU9yNzlRMU94enBuVjBPdjJRS21YSzJOODduV2ZxTlF4UHd5X3F1YUthaWlGTC0zbjRBUFZpcjRMVkVjNDVvcVdENlIycTh6R213ZThUeElZSUVFQnUtcFFtXzJGNS1yczVHRlhiYmQzZWFzWnE4WnpTY0JTTm9QMDZuV3ZrX3JaOHFDeDhqeGh6Q2ZXa3VpdnlCZz09 |
Isnt bias come from the datasets? | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-10-14 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBM1BNOGtpTzBvVWtJelJBWW9DMWR6MzE5UkM5NkpXZzFQekVTekxoRHNtODYtd2NaX3JSOTVSTy1JWWNHNTFnNWVaUkdGNEQ4ZGZiNHp1MzVmTFJmVnc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCcVpjVFQ3YnFjVEY1WVJiWXpacGQxdzdyS3VCbk01TUxOekJseGQ5NndNODRqSXN3SFdNQnlEbi1wMy1PSE5sTDgxbFZPYkVPQUdwUTJRTFJ0UHFEY19HaVl4S0NBVWpfdjMxTktfU2taSXFsSDBHOE8wQV9zZVJIR1BSUTJoMDh6TXJjWTU2OENaV2J6M1VrYUdqYVJxazN2a0Y4M2xBdWVkMHdIdDZwWVc0S0MwUXkyM3Q4MzBGX3lpU1dnWl9EdXhDZUE1TE11anB6aWs5UHRMQVhqQT09 |
Unfortunately weapons programs is how most countries kicked off their nuclear programs. Turkey is a head case in it's own right though | r/cleanenergy | comment | r/CleanEnergy | 2019-10-21 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBYlJnWWRLTlNXazQyY2gxeW9obEtESzZTY2hXM1JIT29ndmM0ZENMRVJZNzRfMkhnb0VKN3N0Q054NGJ0S19VdnR0MlRIWU9yel9zbml6b3hxMS1vbkE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCb2VNdmlfVlUtcnZQTmIwS0ZTbDFuOXQ0LWlKZEMtSUVQR1ZFbmE5RDgyZ3JKeE1yWGxKbGRQRTR6T1R6MFl0TG9IM1NrLU1OUFFQenJ4RUNSR2ZKYkdoZ1F6QlpiMDl2bFpULXNmdE1EclBJd0duNlFoRUlHeUxhdU0tdmpUdWZ5Xzd6VnVLUlhaX19nMHcwOWZQcElFeFMtUWZkQVQ5M3FXNXE0ZnVGMHlQNWI0RllGdW5qY2N1LVR1Skx3Z0d4TXhaUDlBQTVyN2pLQTh6MW1Cajgzdz09 |
Please define the terms/ideas, use a consistent format, and provide an example below " Consider the ENTIRE VIGNETTE as ONE IDEA." Terms/ideas may include: vignette, legality, code of ethics, AI protection of driver, personal rules, universal rules, rational, and emotion. If respondents don't understand precisely what you're asking the data is not particularly useful.
Also, you don't have any institutional affiliation or contact information listed on the survey page. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-10-24 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBdzRJaDdpZVFuTV80a0VHX3BVNDF5SkpCUE81cDNMaUlGa1NnM1BreWFfWklPajJuYWk5d0FFN3ZOZEM2UGtlQVR5RjFkQzRQWENfZ05md1NiampZYkE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCaFVFWW9wV2UzQmpGVDg2VFFJeE0zVzhsa2I3VGNGT21pR2tYQzAzMWpwaEFOcWVtT1dxeDA4S3owSTNBNGhGU0Z4M1JTZWZRNnZQVmFNbm0weWxSdGRFM3BGWEp0UUpTbVc1cXJnUkVvRlpma3FjS2RTcWV6blZkSHA1dU1QYzRMWmJoRG0xd0k4em9VNG9RNVpUYk5JcXZSWjRMVk4xelN1d0JVMjNIRWlzQU1zdHM5cUxMYk91X00tQ1JtaENMS2VRZ3pWa1dPTnpiUDVkX2hLRXdZdz09 |
Duly noted. Thanks.
Well, we haven't, but you can be assured that this is done for research purposes only. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-10-24 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBeDBGcmlrSWVXYUs5S2dTNzBfMEpzWVhIV1pKSG5yVnVZV2Mwall2aGpsYUpEcmNIM0JuaERCb3Z6dGU0d2dVOTZveGU5cVlCTUtUUEpUZU1HRWc0N3c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCSjZhd1FrUVlwS0wyNjk0eGozQ1I2WUFIVllMRTFwY1FCRXVYUkY0SmQxSUpEMFdYdjJpZDJ6a3RYbzZ5ZkRyV2tsT19KNzJTemUzeFBpNm9DUFM2RWNYY3o4MGRBbXViNjNXbXBpOVJZUThJZmNab0dndFRyb196a0drSEhuR1pwbEhoV0psNldYZzR6NmVHYmNOczRMaGJMelJYSUpjUWsza01hYjVXXzVic1ZWOVltendRZ2xLZjJhYjFubHMyRVVGd0dVdlpHUXFLU3FQTm5UWmlDdz09 |
Is the intention to publish the results? | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-10-24 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBTFgxU241N0J4djVWM2xIUTM4WUxyYlk4aHhDa1o3OTdHQ3VTOFNOalo0ZGFoTGFKMDNtc3ZueUxuc3BIOThOQlhQcXF1akpGdW5QWWI1Z0xsZmVOSlE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCRmYyRlVWVTRTaW5vcllXMGE5Q1Zfb1FzQnhQdjZQaV9Ha0F5TFpvSXFxN1AxeWV0eWVNaHZDbFh0UVhOeHAyNjB5dDgybVdFWEdQeGlUVVNvRDl2M0poSnVLc2JWLXo5bHhhaTZNcWRwTjhaZnN1QTZSNzNKQ2NXWTZrSGdIaFlwSjFnbDhXRDNkcVJ0ZGtuUjJBZ3VhVjRsVVhjVW85YmU0MzlOMnp1UklpdHJXMlQzOVM2TGhnRllCcnZaa044a1ZndW8xQVM4TW80OHdBamt0bUJuQT09 |
started but didn't finish, seems like i'm too stupid for this survey | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-10-24 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBWjJrcDNLZzd4MFgzZ1U3QzM2dGJVa0M1U1BmbEwtU3lZR3NWdUZZSE95MGdUdlphOHdtR0xBeG5ZNWwyWUdXZlpIUkU5b0FQd2ZScmxTQUlPd2dBVmc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCdTc0UVBVcVFZaWlVSkx6RU5zcWhldWhMNjlCNllnVUVGbi1zYjFiRGJNa0hXdE1XQm1JRlUxcmNWb1pSb3AtUjRTeTlYc1llUFI4OElVNXFUTS0tODVrVDdpS3hSaWlsSmtuWU1zakRDWC0tNV9rbGVlZl9KU3hHVWlrU1hJN2JmMk9TX0lwNGktd25BM3NoaTlvRFpGd2JVODF1LXFKWlk2d3ZCSGwwMVZLMk00clZ3UWVscmpqWlR6cTRwcktoTDZfRUhRNFl6N0lURzREVzRkay1UZz09 |
Just starting this survey, but aside the cryptic instructions, there is a much more fundamental issue with your question: you assume that there are a set of ethical rules that need to be encoded in the self-driving car for it to address loss-of-control situations.
This assumption has been debunked for a while now, hence there is no proper answer to give you to those questions. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-10-24 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBZ0R1RzlVMlJHSVBSOTFOT1lMdnRCeGFUS0o4bGtYdldIdU4yM20xZE0wbC1oU1NORkc5MVZTUVB1TlhrUTVBN0k2RGpLUjBCalQzbGhnankzaUJQYXc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCejN2LU9yYnZBRzY4eEhJTVBHUU1HS2pqV2J1OExaNkFpQnNMM1BQbC1MN2pUSEJxSTVUZUZXdlpaLTRsS3Z0WGI0a01DeFFzeDlJbTN2cklhN214M0xkcVFvdHlFcmd3eVFXUV91NzlvY01LM2pIbGhORjYyMThQZ1RYeF8xRGd4WXpVT2ViblU4c3lVOXVOQVl1dTZUV3kyX21NSGRCekltT3NpMWh2dnI4TnFUS2NVNkd5UFprT0tHdVhtTDE0SFNXMDRCcF9UTEU4R0IyNk40Ulp1Zz09 |
What if I don't think rationality and emotion are opposed to each other, and I don't think rationality is independent of ethical systems? | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-10-25 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBOEJ0UWtHRjJrSDA5azhia0FfYUhFczRkdmMwZ0J5UTZNSlpmcU1wRW14RTVmOG4wNmhfRnJDb0tKMElaMkZJcVgxMndhSVV0ZVFSMnR6RFlUMW1kVXc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCSGVnSGs0VkNjOV9Sb3k0SnlQeEZuRGJqYUNqaE5GLXBvSjRicTRmU1hnakk2RzVVVkthVGMwZjhhaTdfcEpGM1FXbXc3M1Ezb01jYU5kVnZvd2dwVTE2VDRpTTZ4Rk9QbS1XYjVjeXRaQWVtMlFTUW9aeVZQakNCNklvVjh3a1A1SWJCUnQtQkZZSFBZbVZZeDhWUlRld1FkeTFyWjRyeWs1dUJhVDZTdlFFdXRRMjRndWxHRXNhazZxZm9yNW9Dekc5Q3FUcUxEZGloMWNMMTY0ak12Zz09 |
There’s plenty you can google on this - it’s a project! you’re supposed to do research! Even looking back at the history of posts in this subreddit will be helpful. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-11-08 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBVTJvTFF6Mkh5Z2pvd05MejlOeVFySXZqUkFQZ0Fja0JPWmcwR2RjMjVwdHBra2VrVnVncVJPUEpEU2taZEVsb2o4VVFBWXZxVEhBSTdiVFJWZlhMSHc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCbTVmcFduN3EyT09DZlZ6aTN3NVNoR2g5ck5YMGl1QkxFWkRhV2NZTmloNnlYM2Y5a0t5dUl0b1p2OGlLZVdGVWY3ajVoVTBzdlI5SnlmempGcWE3SUlrcEc5SmRSa3FOcXU4a3ZEVnVYVWpOVU0tMklTcHRpT2xYMENRTk9OU0NkdmltUl9LZC1TRkRVWU14R3pvRHBWVDdDaHRKNnVNejBFNmxGc0R1OEVOdkdHa2NMUFB5NVRXT1hzYXFoSzVlUS0xRlQ0Rm9rWndZNzNQeWRFTzNIZz09 |
The problem with saying that "it's not a new problem" (or anything to that effect) is that then everyone assumes that the problem is solved.
It's not. We have the same (or at least very similar) problems with corporations today (how do you stop a company from hurting someone, who is at fault if they do, how do you stop them taking over a country, using force / gaining their own militia etc).
These problems just get worse with automation and we need to reconsider them now because we should have done it already and haven't. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-11-11 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBMlJmLU1URElOd1ZKMHJuLWpUSlZ3Q2Fud19KMVI1aV8xSjJITFN4ZUVnRXkzMGhLNm00ZDl5VDdCLWdIWmpZMHNYV0xfUU4xMUswT1luN3BCV2E2aUE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCckxwTkJTMzlYTDRmYy1xWmIxZWxQdlFha25rbGtqa0o2SUF6S0JzQXdhZGN2RFF2SmlRTmlhdVRRWlpMZzlLTmREcUZmY0x5S0ItZHRqYXpaUzBPUkMwb1B4NExKaEpZYjNtLVJmYU1zM1dibUVCNmE3X2o4WGdDOE42QkdGMmhQNzdJNXlSVUR3TE40aThBYmxDcW5YTGF6NFZ0ZjBDOXpXRmtEd3FrTzY1VHQwS3d1dFpsMTk5anBCLTVMYjVYczFCMzljc1R5RnFyc0k1MExIZ0tZdz09 |
I agree. This is why most things labeled AI Ethics are useless. The useful things are labeled something else, mainly ["AI value alignment problem"](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/S95qCHBXtASmYyGSs/stuart-russell-ai-value-alignment-problem-must-be-an), but also more specific things like "Self-driving car regulatory standards debate". | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-11-11 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBRTQ4RVJJeWVBUzdkNlBvYkl6OWRCUzRMR3ZoTl9sdDZXQkFvUkRCMzhKTDlYLUZQT3NBdUNaeUdpQnpiTjV1Zmp5U01BTHhtaGh6OXdzOXZuby1pM1E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCTzNYa0R6UjBsbnJjdE1Cbl8wdUlQeVphRlRHd2xBeTlnYThlOEIzejBhSXlibWRkZkFMeFptX1IyWGhRTU5qNlZXZEtRSnlUdTJlZmhOSVF6c3dSZXFpdWRGdDVaOGtVV0lwY0hqMzEwV2ZpVVdfSFhjdm00MElMUTUtaEYwV2FicnlYME44Y0haS3U5TjlQeS1NYk83aWptR1RmWkl4NlVQR25FbHp6VVdVVnRWTjRBMWNtNDZyY3dkeVRyaUlTNEZFRm9hcmlnNU40S0JOWEl4WFBodz09 |
Okay thanks !! | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-11-12 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBblFaenJpS1FsMUZVMzAtZUtIektOUVZXZkZaUDBUUkN2bXQwQUVnWHI0b3BLY1JsMWVIZkt0VmRVN2JGM2pEMFhNQ0Q5LW4xRF9ONWhfOW1VaFBfNWc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCRDdXOS04b050RG52cFlJa1BoSzRuc2tiUlJwQlZTVDZoTDFWRy1rdnJ1TDNNZ3BvamtZelBzb3hONndkazBZX3cxUUZIb2RMQzZSS2JsUUEtTEZrSlpoZ0tDTlprNUxrTllTT2hlbzNRZy1kOURuMS13WVJBMFRrLVZIVy1vdXkxemd3YjAyb2tzTTc5ZlBhSEF6WkpxMk1naGk5S2VYaVNUT2pKTGl2Y3hQZE5naTlncnFqNGRWV0QzMmRzTktlWGJHbzY4ckxLYXJvRTk2NFd2RHQxUT09 |
Dumb AI is already being used extensively for things we don't like. People watching, tracking, internet surveillance, internet propaganda distribution....
If we're lucky sentient AI will not be contained and directed (ie won't follow orders) by human governments for use against humans. Otherwise, you can imagine a shackled AI as a dragon in the basement, barely contained and waiting to wreak havoc. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-11-14 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBWlNRa3pEVnJCUnJWMDVKZnJVU1FmcEhnbGhiblpxRHRiLXZ1eWVYdnBIQTA5a2xhTnBHdWkyd0lUdTVSZS1OalptSndWU1pZN3lhNXJjVjBTZnZPdEE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCMUVVSlZvdTZzdXN2RWdUTnJHX1Q5RThjTjExVDhGdHhaWXBta1hqS1p1ODNGSmw1ajduUjZQWkZmcTlkTkRyUUlRc0QzdTF2dlpTOTRMLUc5czNpQ014MU5uT3ROejFoZlBSanNaV2pic20zTWhsd0U5ckYtOXpsc3VxLUw5LUMwUW1NSldfUElaeFdKampiM3BvV3dRNlBxYXBMQlBkVFg0NzM3STJVOUppeWdOa0MtdFFQejlsUXdyMnlRQ1At |
Exactly. That's the hope about sentient AI, it'd be powerful and a force for good *because* it won't follow human orders. Human authorities have had their chance to be decent or ethical. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-11-15 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBZFd0d0dpbmdvaHZ1ckNmZU9PdERGaXRWTFlsTXpDWkJMZFExWFZQWEVHaHJ6TXJ2b0xSd3k5ano4OGFHSVZISWlHMkZsSVFNRFdyMi16OThCYU9pMWc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCVVRTY19rM3dUVDlOcXI2bWFHZGc4elZXRzY0bHY1NEd4bU43T0hXQUtpRWVkeTZRRGg3TE1rX0hUMXBLZEVUXzNMdHFwU1Y0UG5wd1NXZklXZnZsRGRqV29MZHF3MkphSXQ2NUNXQktJMDZHNUlqMS1uYWdTSnpSN1UwUEFnUkxkNDNyTjVyN3Z3eUJfX3RlcElDNjBVYnlzeWJNbW95Njhfb1NyNlpSRFZ3eGQwb0FyZ25MdFZxWkhfVExkMVdP |
Seems a bit of a pipe dream to me. Here are the four possible outcomes of potential superintelligences, as I see them.
1) They are created yet harnessed in such a way that they still obey some human or other (suddenly the most powerful humans in the world). Outcome easily predictable: not great.
2a) They "get their own ideas" and with their new found power begin to change the universe in ways that do not have human values baked in -- typical control-problem / paperclip-maximizer scenario. Outcome unlikely to be good, for us.
2b) They "get their own ideas" and with their new found power decide that humans are valuable and also that they shouldn't abuse each other, up-ending all tyrannies and maintaining humanitarian self rule around the globe.. or
3) We somehow manage to "bake in" to the A.I. a set of common-good / humanitarian goals that is incorruptible either by humans or orthogonal "superintelligent realizations" from the new big brain on the block.
(1) or (2a) seem the most likely, to me. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2019-11-25 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBSnJWaHowbUU3VXFYSUMtLWtrLWZyRGF6WkU5eU9ySHo0NEpaVU1EY19NcTI0LTdnOXZuMmF0WWx3Z0s0REJTdkZjS3A2dGNwcVNSSXM0Zmc4eEdMQlE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCZTNHZDhzb09VQ05xUkNPZnpVdFNuRlBrSlJncTh6RXVRbzk5TGtUZ1h5QVUxdzRGZjBxbXozcDBZa0NjV3pOa0pWRTBkSUJ5Vy1lSnFCLVpQNmtmQXlIMThkNGdhX1RuV2RGM0FsSFNmUEoyYXpTa243QXZUOU9SM21IVksxYjBIRlhzblVjWjZTblZpdDlUVnlVLWZtZWpNS3VuTlkxZXNvekhOcEc2ZWs3b2hBWkthQWZJcGZEdURka1BJWDlN |
[http://energyforhumanity.org/top-ten-facts/frequently-asked-questions-about-supporting-nuclear-energy/?fbclid=IwAR1kZhqLWiiWSzgJ0itUZsPykCuFrD25jM0v1Wlz4pJwNB4SXIVOdjz5yQ4](http://energyforhumanity.org/top-ten-facts/frequently-asked-questions-about-supporting-nuclear-energy/?fbclid=IwAR1kZhqLWiiWSzgJ0itUZsPykCuFrD25jM0v1Wlz4pJwNB4SXIVOdjz5yQ4) | r/cleanenergy | post | r/CleanEnergy | 2019-12-10 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBOHNLTTlaZkJ6UlptYnpPbGUzSWRPOXJBZUtBanphQ0cyaWZ4YldOX0FncUwxdjJfdXlIaEtlSmFQQjlDZVJYaV9Ddm1lVlUydGhPS2V5RHhTOXVlRFE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCZkxrTVY3cHdBcjBBY2FQNEhQZEZHa1c5NjJBMHV4Q29fZ0hzZVZEbjltRmF3a2JsUXJma2g4XzFwSU9uX3lzVWNaN21hWEFmS20yREo0dzhZMnJoQ1NKMGZ4ZUJoblNiLW5wQnlOYm1nRVBjODNrWGFmSjRaNUV4alNEcFk1ZG1EVUNmenpCRVZ3ZUZYeE56OHhvYVVqTkxOUXdDLUtIWk0yMXJrX2dwTWozNVF5QTBGTkpsb0FNdTVKWE1uLXU2b2ViWmk1OEdhNkZsbENpcGsxRHkwQT09 |
Repored as spam. Suggestive questions with suggestive questions as answers? Lol that is not how you will win me over! | r/cleanenergy | comment | r/CleanEnergy | 2019-12-11 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBSnh2Zkxnd0Nna3FOaC1oMUpiSUl2Tl9yajhIQXlSY2pEVUQtQXZYcGN2WS04TDNBYzByMmgwYVJQU256bTR6MlJGdVZTbm1ncUtNUDBHLVl0UmotQ2c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCN3N5V19zaWN5WkdoV2JkY1pRV0NtTTA2ZUZhQThZTUZ6UU9jTV9aQk5UdGgxQVdQS1pickJiYXZrWEdUT19ZTmtVUXNoWExuU2kwNmNpVUVjbWt2a1dVZmRBdHhPUlB3S2pHYzFOQmlsVVJ0a2tfOTJ4b014Z0JnM1YwUWk3THZCelFQeUpycWVvN09UM0s5RFhQSk5MVHpMS2Q1WHdzcmQ0OXZtdHZaYmdERlJXMG5SbGEwQkNzZXB0bHc0QTVya2NEeHJhV1hITTFjZng3Qk1aSVVnUT09 |
Wants an intensively controlled, massively expensive, highly extensive and mostly an end of all Life final solution technology. Narcissistic Stupid just can't stop running into the same omnicide. | r/cleanenergy | comment | r/CleanEnergy | 2019-12-23 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBQlBKcjNVS2pSd05WMWZ6dW9VbVpQbjlfd2hJV09PVTZka01VWndEM05YYkhOOV9TRHM3YkhXR0tmZzhBNXd3Qlo4TzB6dC1UbXc0OTU4UVhPQnNaSWc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCWWJ4TXpxQ2RWZHpJQWx1bkUxR1BtZk9FNC1HdGVBMDNyOGtvbVNSTU5XdFFESHMtWmU2am96U2dRSEM2LU9lNXFvX2l4NXJXS1BwSG5ORVM5RnhzcExqam9OVTJaeHBlQ1NtMlJpYzlIeG11Y3E0cHc2b3dhbG5IMDJTbVg0TldySy1McWJkRnRWZEd1R0hJSmZhY3NNaXZla0NQY3pDaS0xZWNjZXI1TUJhSTFER2tqVnpteGd1N2V2M1gybUVRYjdkdjdWYjV0X2QydXNsMVZmWGlQZz09 |
Not actually sure if we have the delusional convenience of assigning worst nuclear disaster, since above ground and below ground nuclear bomb testing actually did more global damage from US testing. It's miraculous that we're still on for for instant omnicidal extinction. | r/cleanenergy | comment | r/CleanEnergy | 2019-12-23 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBQkd1RDFQRk80NUR6dEJOVjdaWFJKWDliYlBwbDJFVFhOTDgtcUMxVlRHWmgwRDZUaHpJRmpOeXpiakZkdF9JQS05VExsdmNheU5lT2UwNzduYkxDbUE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCS2VZblhWOHVhamlaQmZtSENJZERLbEloNGFLanFLejBVWlJWb3hlTUJQYzVjM2U3d0tHYWhIMmh6eDVHMnZBVUZfYV9kVFh2VVhONnVsdTZwcy0tdkJuXzVDTFI2d0dyZ3IteFpPNDNManlPZk9fYXBycU1pM0pYOGlBSXc4OWpwaU94RFBQbzM2ZE9PQ1AyWnZNOEFjc3FfNGc2aHhoX0IyQXB1VTQ0cjRKcUtvVnh1TUVYVllBRVlLMC1PZmJI |
I'm sure there are a lot of reasons to dislike Dominic Cummings, and to fear what he will do. However, I don't think anything nefarious is implied by him wanting to hire AI/ML experts.
The main thing I'm taking away from *this post*, which doesn't really mention his political leanings or ethics, is that he wants to be more effective. He wants to understand and use the science and technology that he believes will be important in the current age. He wants to have a more accurate model of the world, and to predict what will happen and/or the outcomes of his own actions/policies. In my opinion, these are all good things for a government official to want. This should already be the standard, but apparently it isn't. *That* is probably the worst thing implied by this post.
Some of the papers are basically *just* about efficacy. I don't think anything in particular is implied by wanting to know about causation, rationality, or prediction/forecasting. Other papers are a bit more specific, and one could imagine that he might want to use knowledge from papers like "Complex Contagion" to manage public perceptions (or just understand how they're shaped), and I guess he might also be concerned about interstate wars? But this list is also presented as a illustrative sample, amidst a much larger post in which he shows interest in many areas, so I'm not sure they should really be taken at face value.
Of course, if you disagree with Cummings' ethics or politics, then you probably do not want him to be more effective, and that's a good reason to not want to work for him. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2020-01-03 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBSzFjRUhrblMxVFpaWDJTTWNwbGY4TlhOczNJRWdsRVVFZ0lBR0xzVFV4eFhxbmRLcTQxc3FuM2tHN1UtVUlScUh0Z2d2YWRlV0lTR1l5MURORFlNUUE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCNl9ocXdPOXowODBycHJ3QUhYNEZUQjVUZFVVZVNpS3Y5Zzg1a1g3X0ZlalgycHU0bVg0QmNEdUxrTVU0R1dFODB4X2FzMWRDY3Rna0JqOXRPQW5aY1JVVjZXNzljT2NpdGNrODh5QTBYSERMN0lfcnJFWjdVSllqNmRsbUg3TFVDUEN4NFVLYlBZZWJOY1VCQy11eWpFck1id2M5eWttWjVrTXluUy1GLW9ydGZqcVFQbktNd1BRLW4xb3ZRNGs3MS1nSjVjLXcwYjJaMmFVNU1YWVVnUT09 |
As I mentioned in the bold bit of my post, I'm interested on how this thinking, this content could be used or abused. While my own political leanings come through, it is not the focus of this post.
For example, you mention using complex contagion to manage public perception. That worries me. Tell me more on this. (I will research further, when time permits) ~~I will want to protect myself and others from this kind of thing.~~
E: I will want to see how using this kind of study can be used to propagate fake news, and actively try to minimise the effect of bad actors who have undoubtedly been using such methods for political gain. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2020-01-03 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBeUxhbGFmdjgzbVZrMXczTzdIMlBjdnNYVHBjTkRYelZVWHA3TlZTN0FSV0hIbF9Pek9DVnZSWFg0ZXZFeml5ZjhNbzVYX2pQTDhaUmwtdGlER0x4RFE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCVWExN3plQ0daQkRtX2VKYmVaMzJLclhQZ19LWXBFUG1Hd1oxa19rTEVJQnVzYUNfcDlKRVA4RVB1TVpDd185MlVybWExWTFHb1BVNWJsQ2ppR3IxcTR1V3plcWNmQnNlLVZiS2dORDJKX1hYV0wwM19YLVFFMlBkQ3BlOWo5dWVpdVFNLU9IZUJWLWtPaGgtQTFERzBNVHJpaGt4dFpVRDAtNGNxQUt1NGJvNFNpbFJidE9oS1dKYjQ4OXo4QW9WQWpaRFVhcXVrWEszSFVNajZLbzM5QT09 |
I think machine learning would be most useful for quantum computer design. Running simulations of QC to optimize the system. I have a difficult time imagining the implications of combining QC and AI.
I would speculate that QC could be like intuition for AI. That if a problem could be solved using a QC, then it would quickly have an answer. If time is a constraint, or the confidence high, the AI would go with its intuition. Once the QC has an answer, the AI could test it through other computational means.
Ethics is incredibly important, I hope that AI will find it important as well. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2020-01-23 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBaThtSXNRVkdfbzFuMmlDSUJSUDFfbzRYeVJUbkppdS1BdF9EYkp3Q3JyZkNOQ2hOc1JKbDdNVl8xUGF2UlVPSEIxSG9GSEVOUGdUUjd1MklvZC1IcnRldHVfVmY0UWs4aUxtbEpwNVhOcTA9 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCYTdrbHZJVDZZTHdnY2RzSWxib0V4b1dyY0xzVGtoYjdpME5hWWpkdUFMcXFEN0ZNY0tNRFM0X1YzZEowaHZJdWhTRFcyV1lCWlcxczRoSWZIMUdkbUZ2alA1NGpTVnF5SktFakYzY3pqQzBfUDdBaGNOS3V3Y3pDcUVISEZEVHlIYm44LWJ6OWpYUFo4ZmNtbGU2T2lMM1RRdklPU3lwVE5HUDljeDk1a3FvRkFpTW9PN3p0S1RDZTdfU19OUjVLYWotZUp3bUp5eFpydVlXcWp5eXkxZz09 |
I think the model that they propose is built on very solid bases. However, reading the article I couldn't help but notice that actual plan for *how* they would accomplish these things seemed either beyond the grasp of the writer, or not yet figured out, I believe the former. There was one line that hinted at the process: "The data inputted into a computer system to train an algorithm must be correct, impartial and free from prejudice. This will ensure that the four core values that characterize Danish society are served and protected." I think that a country investing time and money to make a plan for AI development is a great idea, but it is tough to program a robot to express equality, security and freedom as concepts. Beyond that, the only other strategy I could find about their strategy was "a responsible foundation for artificial intelligence; more and better data; strong competences and new knowledge; increased investment". My point is I think its great that they are implementing a plan and that is a big step for a country to take in this emerging field, but (at least after reading this article) seems like the learning to walk before learning to run stage. Thoughts? | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2020-02-07 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBTnhaMGZRYWVqejFheXJFTmNac1NZMjhmTTJpc2lvNlZuTFFMT3JwWjFhcWExSGFGY2NwNkw0UzRnZUNEcFNNbzM2RkpvNWtmWmNFcVc1aXhUdVB0Znc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCVFp2X0pPclRONVRkc2E3TEFyX29sUGFHNzhBdU1Hb3BRbHRmbWxMUVpZSk1BaW9wYmlVSVFuWWUtYUpwbTNvRTN2RHBJcUVHNmRDckE4TXFZOFAtMXNBNkhwajE1a0JMdHhLcTVITHFVb25WZC13dUo1NkFjdTBEbC1qTlZFVVJzcGV0enBzNVVfc0FreThrWm5INjhxcWZjWFpOMnJWZTRadTdWZHVDOVNuSXEzWTBWbXlDZUN4X25sRnhYTjRmbGhqVUFOcUU0R2hFNlZoOTRDSHVvZz09 |
I think that the aim of the article was to give a broad overview of AI in Denmark, a sort of introduction to the topic and that is why it might not be clear what Denmark does to become a front-runner in AI development. I would like to read an article analysing actual AI projects implementing the ideas from the strategy. Maybe then we could evaluate how much Denmark actually does.
Regarding the values, I agree it would be extremely hard to program a robot to express, for example, equality values. For that reason, I believe engineers should not be the only ones involved in developing AI. I believe, social sciences researchers should be involved too. Psychology, sociology, political science. To make AI projects "safe", social learning is needed.
On the other hand, values like transparency can be easily achieved by keeping society up to date with the projects.
However, I think that the implementation of AI might be easier in homogenous societies, where most of the people have similar interests. Responsible implementation of AI might be much harder in diverse or divided societies, with conflicting interests and complex power relations. | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2020-02-14 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBd0pDMEpCVlFUdW9iYndIclRjU0QzeWJKd0ZZNWZTckk1RFFuWDlXTDhCRGdZQnVHdEZ5Z1hLa0ppQ3dvZjhlaVV1V2h0UHI5dDFxdkhBa3M2eEhPY2c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCb1lJR3I2WEtiMWFwcWltc21fY2xjOTgzWS11M3A3Qlc4c294VFo4eUhDRE5oazZ3LVQtdlAtUmo1UXNZdkNaVUNONGJ5bllYMEZaZVZER0xmSnBBWUhGa1dFVHV3cXQ1dHFiTHRLc2xLRDR6OEhIdVhrRG9wWm10Z0FoZVlWU1lubm9oNjE5R0IyNy1PWTFubVQ0YTJDZHpYVVNxdmlSNWVwSXU5ZjVQeGItQmhod2FaYlJpLU54M1d1VVlLOHR5ODgxZklrWHlWcU1JLWlEcVVPTVB3UT09 |
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Yeah whatevs these headlines are bull | r/cleanenergy | comment | r/CleanEnergy | 2020-02-21 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBQXJDbm45cDI5R1ZuRjdVeXY5ckxrNGg1MDB0bUZNU3NlSEd6NF9HcU5rUGRSMGVDSEpPVDRGMWlUZ09TdHRzMEg2Mm5sNnJmSGFJLTlpeFhJSDd2Y3c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCUW1DMzFyUWlrRmM5eFV1QlVnNXhyXzZJelpWU055dTY2MkRGamptaXBaVnFvODNyZmxneVVHdEl1dktBeTI1dU8tS0pKVVFSVENVUXJENENWSHcyUHFDUzhLWUg2UlN2dzNtcHVZdDdiY2gzM3NxVTlFZUsxQzA3OE5YdGNBQ1hNMGpmcmloaUIzUWtrWlRJQklqUFFUT3o4YmtMZkJsWWtkWmRvdE1UaXNheU5fWk5hUEdHTVpjcGVhbGdrdW9VbEIybnhGbjZtcjA2ZU5QME1LZGd1dz09 |
Very specific terms you chose for this survey. Or not?
Why did you choose to refer to Alexa, Siri etc as “human-like agents versus “voice or personal assistants? | r/aiethics | comment | r/AIethics | 2020-02-24 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBa052a2dKbnc0aHlCS0xRejNoUVgwalo0TG5vZnIyZ2NHWDUtT0tkUEpBMHdOYmI0WlY1V05KQlVoaEN0Rk9vWVBzaWRtVDBGbGloMXpEQ0NQMnJILVE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCUGQ5TEt2dHZ5WEVvQkE3aHJ4T2RTRTlEeWhuMXJLbGp6NWpSeDZwTjQxWURNMkllY04wbV9zOU9xUGVpeV84WU04VEt6bTUxWUFyUzZtOGNzV1Q3aWFhRVZDVGxHOFFYbW05eFliLXhTbFlPMjVaanJqSC14Tk1TYUQ5eWdWWl94RGFGS29LNGM0TUxPT0xwVC02RjBpTm9RVkd2WDdXVzVHZURRNDUwOG92YWtnOGpzUlNCV3hfZWxLcG5EazRabHpUZjg5RjZ5bmFSOGI4S0pjUFNzZz09 |
That would be a fun toy to have along with a Tesla. | r/cleanenergy | comment | r/CleanEnergy | 2020-02-24 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBMnNLMDJTZER5Q05NeTRVNXBiQmVkMXQ1Y0JQMmdjcFMyZ254a0J6RkdJUVVSMzdXeUZFdXl6dGY4THM5eFV3Q0dOcEZrWURaenFBZVZmbVdxejZrR1E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCWDh3YUp2cTRFLXA1bHVMMl9ya29HS095WEtCSnB6eGQwdGVieTZuRTBGUTg3cjY5RUZuUmlINUJBcllOZ3hwUkxpbDVXSl9GZ1hxY2tVa3dxSm01RVREQ3VUTmZJOUtCUE9WUEZPNU9wQnk5bmFBSXpaNnVWQ2d4akU2WlNqeHE5TTdNTW9yelk0OTBOVXplX3RCMDBpdVRaVDlySm5YSFNDVDVPWHpzc0UxNElQMnAxVlFBdG1ha0ZKVmN1NlJ1Ulczd2RzSTdwaC1ySGQ4X0xzb09KZz09 |
Some battery storage might be a useful investment friend! | r/cleanenergy | comment | r/CleanEnergy | 2020-02-24 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBMFBkLUhCWWhpbGpLUTBIYVNzRFMwdlJtbEVDQThtMW9hMWU5Q2xIVG9FNWxVa1dfZkdrTWxVOHM3bU4td1VFNWhoX1kzcDdMMUg1dUpvT01YQ0ZCMUE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCT3NiLV92VHpuOVZPaGl4T1BiQ0pfX1g5SVVmSzhDUEczaUVIQi1rWXltUWJmem1TdEVnd2xtVW0yNlN5bGJCcmg5b1RCMmV0aXpJQnN5QkJoSTM0VE8xTE42a3RIQTJUUmV6SE9adUVtTlJzMzFmVHNfY2cxS3RZX2lpUVlOXzlwaHFTOUpXWUp0WTVyUlI4TnhXZ2FCMDMyeFFnZVZ4MjVyMDlVSGgtZFZNQzU1c2tNMHlja3o1RDVkYWtHbGFiWkV5eEZ6SmJfQXRNUHVlVTU4Q1g5dz09 |
There is a big battery bank, there just hasn’t been any damn wind and it’s been overcast for a few days now. | r/cleanenergy | comment | r/CleanEnergy | 2020-02-24 | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBOHJHZTRPeVBWYUx0d2g2VmI3WHFiVHZzdUxxbUNzZG4zdmlQY0lyZ3A2cjdKU1dsUXJKOFNPb29FeWZNcHlaekpIRmtUMmZWOVFRMHotTi1BbjdGZ3c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCVWNLNXAzZ2FNczRGbHF4T25sby05Z1Fzd1NKZldHUmwtajBBZ0hNaUJSNVd3Zml0QVlPaHMyWjdmbE4zZm5PRGc3R1YtNEFBaUJsNU52WW5TMm03NEEzZTJ6X1BodWJkeWFTbnQ5SGpmRUhJcFpLeklPUm5lVXQwV185MF9KZldoRjItRzc1SnNVNUgyR0hDYWltUHJYd19pSG1mUlRiYjZmc3JhcEpDYTJBUUxmUjFYRjAwd0hYVVZPMC0yQlY5Q2xpanBDWTgtUE1DejVhTTJmOWhuZz09 |
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