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kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gighv6q | giggsdl | 1,610,047,914 | 1,610,047,434 | 25 | 15 | Answer you will like: Go on good reads and check out some 1 star reviews for your favourite book. Answer you might not like: if many random people dont like your writing, there are good chances something is wrong with it. If you are an amateur writing - there is 100% something is really wrong with it, thats expected. Gotta split critique in useful (i am bored IS useful) and not useful (predicting your future or making claims about how genetics and providence play a role in increasing ones skill) Take care, keep writing! | Steven King would literally pin up every rejection letter he would get on a wall. He used it to fuel himself to keep writing, because let's face it not everyone is going to like what someone does. "Facing the Literal Wall of Rejection as a Writer | Diagnosis Life, LLC" https://diagnosislife.com/facing-literal-wall-of-rejection-writer/ | 1 | 480 | 1.666667 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gigh7z3 | gighv6q | 1,610,047,628 | 1,610,047,914 | 9 | 25 | It’s ok for your writing to be bad in the beginning. Keep writing, and focus on the constructive feedback, whether it be positive or negative. Use that to identify where you should focus on improving. There are also sites that are designed for giving and receiving feedback like scribophile.com for example. Writing is a skill like any other, you’re likely going to suck in the beginning. Just accept that, keep trying and just have fun being creative. The more you write (and read), the better you will get. | Answer you will like: Go on good reads and check out some 1 star reviews for your favourite book. Answer you might not like: if many random people dont like your writing, there are good chances something is wrong with it. If you are an amateur writing - there is 100% something is really wrong with it, thats expected. Gotta split critique in useful (i am bored IS useful) and not useful (predicting your future or making claims about how genetics and providence play a role in increasing ones skill) Take care, keep writing! | 0 | 286 | 2.777778 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gighsqm | gighv6q | 1,610,047,883 | 1,610,047,914 | 3 | 25 | It depends on the specific criticism of each work. It’s poorly written? Keep working on it. It’s a poor premise? Probably time to move on, though not always. Find out specifically what’s not working and keep trying different things until it works. Generalized criticisms aren’t helpful to proper skill building; you need specific examples of what isn’t working or what’s “bad” about it to find out where you’re lacking. Personally, I was really bad at describing fight scenes, which is particularly bad for me because I like having intense action scenes. My problem was that it was too hard to visualize my fights, so I started using action figures to map out my fight scenes. I also started reading more stories with fight scenes in them and analyzing how the scene is described to allow the reader to follow along. I’m still not great at it, but my editor says I’ve improved. | Answer you will like: Go on good reads and check out some 1 star reviews for your favourite book. Answer you might not like: if many random people dont like your writing, there are good chances something is wrong with it. If you are an amateur writing - there is 100% something is really wrong with it, thats expected. Gotta split critique in useful (i am bored IS useful) and not useful (predicting your future or making claims about how genetics and providence play a role in increasing ones skill) Take care, keep writing! | 0 | 31 | 8.333333 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | giggws4 | gighv6q | 1,610,047,489 | 1,610,047,914 | 2 | 25 | So what I do is compare my writing to my attempts at dunking a basketball on. Regulation size hoop. I’m 5’10” ish, so not too tall, but not too short. Long story short I can’t dunk. It’s ugly, I look silly, and anyone watching can see that I cannot dunk. It’s a terrible event. However, when I jump rope constantly, daily and go faster and faster and work in doubles my attempts at dunking is a little less pathetic. I still can’t dunk, but instead of people laughing they just say I can’t dunk. If I kept working at it, eventually I’d dunk and make them eat their words. Even I, a small under 6 foot guy, can eventually dunk. Writing is the same. Gotta grind it out. It’s gonna start rough, and then become awful and then real bad and then somewhat terrible and then okay, then average and then it’ll start being good until it’s great. The key is working through it. Keeping trying to dunk even if people watching say you can’t and suck and too small and will never make it. Keep jump roping, watching videos of people dunking and imagining how amazing it’ll feel to fly through the air and slam the ball through the hoop. In the end, fuck em and keep writing. | Answer you will like: Go on good reads and check out some 1 star reviews for your favourite book. Answer you might not like: if many random people dont like your writing, there are good chances something is wrong with it. If you are an amateur writing - there is 100% something is really wrong with it, thats expected. Gotta split critique in useful (i am bored IS useful) and not useful (predicting your future or making claims about how genetics and providence play a role in increasing ones skill) Take care, keep writing! | 0 | 425 | 12.5 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gighv6q | gigh50y | 1,610,047,914 | 1,610,047,591 | 25 | 3 | Answer you will like: Go on good reads and check out some 1 star reviews for your favourite book. Answer you might not like: if many random people dont like your writing, there are good chances something is wrong with it. If you are an amateur writing - there is 100% something is really wrong with it, thats expected. Gotta split critique in useful (i am bored IS useful) and not useful (predicting your future or making claims about how genetics and providence play a role in increasing ones skill) Take care, keep writing! | Keep working. Negative feedback is hard, but pull it apart and see if there is anything constructive in it. If there isn't, throw it away. | 1 | 323 | 8.333333 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gigh7z3 | giggws4 | 1,610,047,628 | 1,610,047,489 | 9 | 2 | It’s ok for your writing to be bad in the beginning. Keep writing, and focus on the constructive feedback, whether it be positive or negative. Use that to identify where you should focus on improving. There are also sites that are designed for giving and receiving feedback like scribophile.com for example. Writing is a skill like any other, you’re likely going to suck in the beginning. Just accept that, keep trying and just have fun being creative. The more you write (and read), the better you will get. | So what I do is compare my writing to my attempts at dunking a basketball on. Regulation size hoop. I’m 5’10” ish, so not too tall, but not too short. Long story short I can’t dunk. It’s ugly, I look silly, and anyone watching can see that I cannot dunk. It’s a terrible event. However, when I jump rope constantly, daily and go faster and faster and work in doubles my attempts at dunking is a little less pathetic. I still can’t dunk, but instead of people laughing they just say I can’t dunk. If I kept working at it, eventually I’d dunk and make them eat their words. Even I, a small under 6 foot guy, can eventually dunk. Writing is the same. Gotta grind it out. It’s gonna start rough, and then become awful and then real bad and then somewhat terrible and then okay, then average and then it’ll start being good until it’s great. The key is working through it. Keeping trying to dunk even if people watching say you can’t and suck and too small and will never make it. Keep jump roping, watching videos of people dunking and imagining how amazing it’ll feel to fly through the air and slam the ball through the hoop. In the end, fuck em and keep writing. | 1 | 139 | 4.5 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gigh50y | gigh7z3 | 1,610,047,591 | 1,610,047,628 | 3 | 9 | Keep working. Negative feedback is hard, but pull it apart and see if there is anything constructive in it. If there isn't, throw it away. | It’s ok for your writing to be bad in the beginning. Keep writing, and focus on the constructive feedback, whether it be positive or negative. Use that to identify where you should focus on improving. There are also sites that are designed for giving and receiving feedback like scribophile.com for example. Writing is a skill like any other, you’re likely going to suck in the beginning. Just accept that, keep trying and just have fun being creative. The more you write (and read), the better you will get. | 0 | 37 | 3 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gighsqm | gihrbq4 | 1,610,047,883 | 1,610,069,597 | 3 | 4 | It depends on the specific criticism of each work. It’s poorly written? Keep working on it. It’s a poor premise? Probably time to move on, though not always. Find out specifically what’s not working and keep trying different things until it works. Generalized criticisms aren’t helpful to proper skill building; you need specific examples of what isn’t working or what’s “bad” about it to find out where you’re lacking. Personally, I was really bad at describing fight scenes, which is particularly bad for me because I like having intense action scenes. My problem was that it was too hard to visualize my fights, so I started using action figures to map out my fight scenes. I also started reading more stories with fight scenes in them and analyzing how the scene is described to allow the reader to follow along. I’m still not great at it, but my editor says I’ve improved. | Crying and alcohol | 0 | 21,714 | 1.333333 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | giggws4 | gighsqm | 1,610,047,489 | 1,610,047,883 | 2 | 3 | So what I do is compare my writing to my attempts at dunking a basketball on. Regulation size hoop. I’m 5’10” ish, so not too tall, but not too short. Long story short I can’t dunk. It’s ugly, I look silly, and anyone watching can see that I cannot dunk. It’s a terrible event. However, when I jump rope constantly, daily and go faster and faster and work in doubles my attempts at dunking is a little less pathetic. I still can’t dunk, but instead of people laughing they just say I can’t dunk. If I kept working at it, eventually I’d dunk and make them eat their words. Even I, a small under 6 foot guy, can eventually dunk. Writing is the same. Gotta grind it out. It’s gonna start rough, and then become awful and then real bad and then somewhat terrible and then okay, then average and then it’ll start being good until it’s great. The key is working through it. Keeping trying to dunk even if people watching say you can’t and suck and too small and will never make it. Keep jump roping, watching videos of people dunking and imagining how amazing it’ll feel to fly through the air and slam the ball through the hoop. In the end, fuck em and keep writing. | It depends on the specific criticism of each work. It’s poorly written? Keep working on it. It’s a poor premise? Probably time to move on, though not always. Find out specifically what’s not working and keep trying different things until it works. Generalized criticisms aren’t helpful to proper skill building; you need specific examples of what isn’t working or what’s “bad” about it to find out where you’re lacking. Personally, I was really bad at describing fight scenes, which is particularly bad for me because I like having intense action scenes. My problem was that it was too hard to visualize my fights, so I started using action figures to map out my fight scenes. I also started reading more stories with fight scenes in them and analyzing how the scene is described to allow the reader to follow along. I’m still not great at it, but my editor says I’ve improved. | 0 | 394 | 1.5 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gih5e2o | gihrbq4 | 1,610,058,609 | 1,610,069,597 | 3 | 4 | i think you just have to keep going on your own. when i look back on what i wrote in the past (could be years ago, could be last week), i think it’s gross and am so grateful no one i know has ever read it. so i rewrite it until i become more satisfied. i guess the lesson here would be to just edit, because even a seemingly terrible premise could turn into something amazing in the future. the only question would be how long that would take | Crying and alcohol | 0 | 10,988 | 1.333333 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | giggws4 | gih5e2o | 1,610,047,489 | 1,610,058,609 | 2 | 3 | So what I do is compare my writing to my attempts at dunking a basketball on. Regulation size hoop. I’m 5’10” ish, so not too tall, but not too short. Long story short I can’t dunk. It’s ugly, I look silly, and anyone watching can see that I cannot dunk. It’s a terrible event. However, when I jump rope constantly, daily and go faster and faster and work in doubles my attempts at dunking is a little less pathetic. I still can’t dunk, but instead of people laughing they just say I can’t dunk. If I kept working at it, eventually I’d dunk and make them eat their words. Even I, a small under 6 foot guy, can eventually dunk. Writing is the same. Gotta grind it out. It’s gonna start rough, and then become awful and then real bad and then somewhat terrible and then okay, then average and then it’ll start being good until it’s great. The key is working through it. Keeping trying to dunk even if people watching say you can’t and suck and too small and will never make it. Keep jump roping, watching videos of people dunking and imagining how amazing it’ll feel to fly through the air and slam the ball through the hoop. In the end, fuck em and keep writing. | i think you just have to keep going on your own. when i look back on what i wrote in the past (could be years ago, could be last week), i think it’s gross and am so grateful no one i know has ever read it. so i rewrite it until i become more satisfied. i guess the lesson here would be to just edit, because even a seemingly terrible premise could turn into something amazing in the future. the only question would be how long that would take | 0 | 11,120 | 1.5 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gigp22s | gih5e2o | 1,610,051,133 | 1,610,058,609 | 2 | 3 | There's not really a black and white answer here to tell you the truth. Through limited experience negative constructive feed back is what I feel priceless. It makes you think twice about your writing and question yourself, plots, grammar etc. It will strengthen you as a writer. Now no matter how good or bad you are, you will never please everyone and that's the greatest advice I can give personally. If one or a handful of people don't like the plot for example then I'd say that's a personal opinion so I'd let that wash away without a second thought, however if many say the same then there are two things you can truly do. The easy option of giving up and wallow in self pitty or look at it from a different angle and make it work. That doesn't mean that it will be an international best seller, traditionally published or anything like that, but as long as your readers enjoy it then you have won. So there are times to take criticism and there are also times to stick your middle finger up to. Also ignore the trolls, there are some around unfortunately, but they don't know what they talk about. There are lots of people willing to help other writers out and many have helped me with truth and honesty, and they can also help you, but don't expect them to hold your hand on the journey, only you can walk the path of becoming a writer and it is a lonely road. Don't rely on enablers either (parents, close friends and close relatives for example), they just tell you what you want to hear and that's negative in it self. Writing ain't an easy road when you start or even if you're a pro, but you will improve being it a long road as I've found out, still working the finite details to my first MS. But if you truly want it then go and get it, no one will do it for you. Well hope that helped. | i think you just have to keep going on your own. when i look back on what i wrote in the past (could be years ago, could be last week), i think it’s gross and am so grateful no one i know has ever read it. so i rewrite it until i become more satisfied. i guess the lesson here would be to just edit, because even a seemingly terrible premise could turn into something amazing in the future. the only question would be how long that would take | 0 | 7,476 | 1.5 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gih11z4 | gih5e2o | 1,610,056,572 | 1,610,058,609 | 2 | 3 | I posted what i thought was a fairly polished script on reddit about a year ago. The first response... "is this a f***ing joke?!?!" My heart sank like a lead balloon and a took a break from the feed for a few hours. I came back and asked directly "what is wrong?" The other user, though it became quite clear later from other comments, was an incredibly rude individual but he had some good points. My point is, even if someone comes at you and tell you you're shit and you shouldn't be wasting your time, ask them for creative feedback. If they offer none, they don't know what the f*** they're talking about. You be you and to hell with anyone who tells you not to be. | i think you just have to keep going on your own. when i look back on what i wrote in the past (could be years ago, could be last week), i think it’s gross and am so grateful no one i know has ever read it. so i rewrite it until i become more satisfied. i guess the lesson here would be to just edit, because even a seemingly terrible premise could turn into something amazing in the future. the only question would be how long that would take | 0 | 2,037 | 1.5 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gih5e2o | gigknvs | 1,610,058,609 | 1,610,049,152 | 3 | 1 | i think you just have to keep going on your own. when i look back on what i wrote in the past (could be years ago, could be last week), i think it’s gross and am so grateful no one i know has ever read it. so i rewrite it until i become more satisfied. i guess the lesson here would be to just edit, because even a seemingly terrible premise could turn into something amazing in the future. the only question would be how long that would take | Anyone who tells you straight up that your writing is “awful” without providing any helpful feedback you can disregard as a troll or a jerk. Art is subjective and thus not everyone will like your work. It’s the same reason people might call modern art trash/awful and others might call it amazing. It’s a taste thing, you can’t impress everyone. Now, if the comment provided context to what the person disliked or thinks is “awful”, take a breather, step away, and then come back to it later and think about why they might feel that way. Let’s say someone says your character is an asshole for example. First, you might wanna consider why they felt that way. What about your descriptions came off asshole-ish, then revise to improve and fix the issue. Feedback is just a part of writing, good feedback gives will give you powerful constructive feedback that’s really helpful and that will help you grow as a writer. Not so great ones will hurt, but stay strong. Writing is an art form of practice. Just keep at it, keep working, keep trying, join a supportive writing group, and one day you won’t even be able to hear the hate because you’ll be too busy listening to all the praise :3 | 1 | 9,457 | 3 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gih5e2o | gigtbv0 | 1,610,058,609 | 1,610,053,068 | 3 | 1 | i think you just have to keep going on your own. when i look back on what i wrote in the past (could be years ago, could be last week), i think it’s gross and am so grateful no one i know has ever read it. so i rewrite it until i become more satisfied. i guess the lesson here would be to just edit, because even a seemingly terrible premise could turn into something amazing in the future. the only question would be how long that would take | Grit is the resolve to keep going in the face of overwhelming odds. Harsh Criticism is overwhelming odds. So when someone criticised you, instead of taking it to heart, you sit down behind your keyboard and you write some more, and you look for ways to improve, and you keep going until people start saying good things about it. In the meantime, you take pride in the fact that you are developing strength of Character | 1 | 5,541 | 3 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gigziwe | gih5e2o | 1,610,055,868 | 1,610,058,609 | 0 | 3 | If I'm honest, feedback like that confuses me. How can writing be bad? It's like if someone asked you to draw a dot. The only way the dot could be bad is if you didn't draw a dot. Anyone who writes is a good writer | i think you just have to keep going on your own. when i look back on what i wrote in the past (could be years ago, could be last week), i think it’s gross and am so grateful no one i know has ever read it. so i rewrite it until i become more satisfied. i guess the lesson here would be to just edit, because even a seemingly terrible premise could turn into something amazing in the future. the only question would be how long that would take | 0 | 2,741 | 3,000 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gihrbq4 | giggws4 | 1,610,069,597 | 1,610,047,489 | 4 | 2 | Crying and alcohol | So what I do is compare my writing to my attempts at dunking a basketball on. Regulation size hoop. I’m 5’10” ish, so not too tall, but not too short. Long story short I can’t dunk. It’s ugly, I look silly, and anyone watching can see that I cannot dunk. It’s a terrible event. However, when I jump rope constantly, daily and go faster and faster and work in doubles my attempts at dunking is a little less pathetic. I still can’t dunk, but instead of people laughing they just say I can’t dunk. If I kept working at it, eventually I’d dunk and make them eat their words. Even I, a small under 6 foot guy, can eventually dunk. Writing is the same. Gotta grind it out. It’s gonna start rough, and then become awful and then real bad and then somewhat terrible and then okay, then average and then it’ll start being good until it’s great. The key is working through it. Keeping trying to dunk even if people watching say you can’t and suck and too small and will never make it. Keep jump roping, watching videos of people dunking and imagining how amazing it’ll feel to fly through the air and slam the ball through the hoop. In the end, fuck em and keep writing. | 1 | 22,108 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gigh50y | gihrbq4 | 1,610,047,591 | 1,610,069,597 | 3 | 4 | Keep working. Negative feedback is hard, but pull it apart and see if there is anything constructive in it. If there isn't, throw it away. | Crying and alcohol | 0 | 22,006 | 1.333333 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gihrbq4 | gigl90l | 1,610,069,597 | 1,610,049,416 | 4 | 3 | Crying and alcohol | First separate genuine negative criticsm from trolls and bullies, the latter say what they say because of personal issues and those you can dismiss. Real criticsm like poor writing simply mean your piece need more work. It takes time to become a writer and even then it takes tons of rewrites and editing to write a good story, so just acknowledge you need to grow and keep writing, no one real expects you to be perfect right away. Find someone nice to read your stuff, don't show it to meanies and things will be okay. | 1 | 20,181 | 1.333333 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gihrbq4 | gigmrg6 | 1,610,069,597 | 1,610,050,098 | 4 | 3 | Crying and alcohol | Someone who's saying "it's awful" isn't telling me anything useful, so I can safely ignore their feedback. I'll still have to go through The Three Stages Of Feedback, of course, but then it gets tossed aside. Someone who is telling me \*how\* it is awful is giving me tools I can use to make it better. In either case, there's no reason to abandon a project I'm passionate about just because of feedback. The essence of writing is re-writing, after all, and without feedback pointing directly to the actual flaws, how can I make it perfect? (trick question, because of course it will never be perfect and there will always be people who hate it. Such is life) | 1 | 19,499 | 1.333333 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gih8dbe | gihrbq4 | 1,610,060,029 | 1,610,069,597 | 3 | 4 | I am lucky enough to have a well read friend to bounce things off of. I go over to his house with the latest chapters on my laptop. He reads it and voices his objections. If i feel strongly about why i wrote it the way i did we have an argument. Ultimately i have the power of veto for any changes he suggests, since it's my book, but he does a great job of explaining why something doesnt read well from his perspective. Probably 80 percent of the time i take his advice or make a change that's a compromise between what he said and what i wanted. I guess what i'm saying is half the problem is your readers. They aren't giving you constructive criticism, they're just hating. My guess is they are not well read enough to verbalize what they don't like about it and what you could do to fix it. | Crying and alcohol | 0 | 9,568 | 1.333333 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gigp22s | gihrbq4 | 1,610,051,133 | 1,610,069,597 | 2 | 4 | There's not really a black and white answer here to tell you the truth. Through limited experience negative constructive feed back is what I feel priceless. It makes you think twice about your writing and question yourself, plots, grammar etc. It will strengthen you as a writer. Now no matter how good or bad you are, you will never please everyone and that's the greatest advice I can give personally. If one or a handful of people don't like the plot for example then I'd say that's a personal opinion so I'd let that wash away without a second thought, however if many say the same then there are two things you can truly do. The easy option of giving up and wallow in self pitty or look at it from a different angle and make it work. That doesn't mean that it will be an international best seller, traditionally published or anything like that, but as long as your readers enjoy it then you have won. So there are times to take criticism and there are also times to stick your middle finger up to. Also ignore the trolls, there are some around unfortunately, but they don't know what they talk about. There are lots of people willing to help other writers out and many have helped me with truth and honesty, and they can also help you, but don't expect them to hold your hand on the journey, only you can walk the path of becoming a writer and it is a lonely road. Don't rely on enablers either (parents, close friends and close relatives for example), they just tell you what you want to hear and that's negative in it self. Writing ain't an easy road when you start or even if you're a pro, but you will improve being it a long road as I've found out, still working the finite details to my first MS. But if you truly want it then go and get it, no one will do it for you. Well hope that helped. | Crying and alcohol | 0 | 18,464 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gihrbq4 | gih11z4 | 1,610,069,597 | 1,610,056,572 | 4 | 2 | Crying and alcohol | I posted what i thought was a fairly polished script on reddit about a year ago. The first response... "is this a f***ing joke?!?!" My heart sank like a lead balloon and a took a break from the feed for a few hours. I came back and asked directly "what is wrong?" The other user, though it became quite clear later from other comments, was an incredibly rude individual but he had some good points. My point is, even if someone comes at you and tell you you're shit and you shouldn't be wasting your time, ask them for creative feedback. If they offer none, they don't know what the f*** they're talking about. You be you and to hell with anyone who tells you not to be. | 1 | 13,025 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gigknvs | gihrbq4 | 1,610,049,152 | 1,610,069,597 | 1 | 4 | Anyone who tells you straight up that your writing is “awful” without providing any helpful feedback you can disregard as a troll or a jerk. Art is subjective and thus not everyone will like your work. It’s the same reason people might call modern art trash/awful and others might call it amazing. It’s a taste thing, you can’t impress everyone. Now, if the comment provided context to what the person disliked or thinks is “awful”, take a breather, step away, and then come back to it later and think about why they might feel that way. Let’s say someone says your character is an asshole for example. First, you might wanna consider why they felt that way. What about your descriptions came off asshole-ish, then revise to improve and fix the issue. Feedback is just a part of writing, good feedback gives will give you powerful constructive feedback that’s really helpful and that will help you grow as a writer. Not so great ones will hurt, but stay strong. Writing is an art form of practice. Just keep at it, keep working, keep trying, join a supportive writing group, and one day you won’t even be able to hear the hate because you’ll be too busy listening to all the praise :3 | Crying and alcohol | 0 | 20,445 | 4 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gigtbv0 | gihrbq4 | 1,610,053,068 | 1,610,069,597 | 1 | 4 | Grit is the resolve to keep going in the face of overwhelming odds. Harsh Criticism is overwhelming odds. So when someone criticised you, instead of taking it to heart, you sit down behind your keyboard and you write some more, and you look for ways to improve, and you keep going until people start saying good things about it. In the meantime, you take pride in the fact that you are developing strength of Character | Crying and alcohol | 0 | 16,529 | 4 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gigziwe | gihrbq4 | 1,610,055,868 | 1,610,069,597 | 0 | 4 | If I'm honest, feedback like that confuses me. How can writing be bad? It's like if someone asked you to draw a dot. The only way the dot could be bad is if you didn't draw a dot. Anyone who writes is a good writer | Crying and alcohol | 0 | 13,729 | 4,000 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | giggws4 | gigh50y | 1,610,047,489 | 1,610,047,591 | 2 | 3 | So what I do is compare my writing to my attempts at dunking a basketball on. Regulation size hoop. I’m 5’10” ish, so not too tall, but not too short. Long story short I can’t dunk. It’s ugly, I look silly, and anyone watching can see that I cannot dunk. It’s a terrible event. However, when I jump rope constantly, daily and go faster and faster and work in doubles my attempts at dunking is a little less pathetic. I still can’t dunk, but instead of people laughing they just say I can’t dunk. If I kept working at it, eventually I’d dunk and make them eat their words. Even I, a small under 6 foot guy, can eventually dunk. Writing is the same. Gotta grind it out. It’s gonna start rough, and then become awful and then real bad and then somewhat terrible and then okay, then average and then it’ll start being good until it’s great. The key is working through it. Keeping trying to dunk even if people watching say you can’t and suck and too small and will never make it. Keep jump roping, watching videos of people dunking and imagining how amazing it’ll feel to fly through the air and slam the ball through the hoop. In the end, fuck em and keep writing. | Keep working. Negative feedback is hard, but pull it apart and see if there is anything constructive in it. If there isn't, throw it away. | 0 | 102 | 1.5 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | giggws4 | gigl90l | 1,610,047,489 | 1,610,049,416 | 2 | 3 | So what I do is compare my writing to my attempts at dunking a basketball on. Regulation size hoop. I’m 5’10” ish, so not too tall, but not too short. Long story short I can’t dunk. It’s ugly, I look silly, and anyone watching can see that I cannot dunk. It’s a terrible event. However, when I jump rope constantly, daily and go faster and faster and work in doubles my attempts at dunking is a little less pathetic. I still can’t dunk, but instead of people laughing they just say I can’t dunk. If I kept working at it, eventually I’d dunk and make them eat their words. Even I, a small under 6 foot guy, can eventually dunk. Writing is the same. Gotta grind it out. It’s gonna start rough, and then become awful and then real bad and then somewhat terrible and then okay, then average and then it’ll start being good until it’s great. The key is working through it. Keeping trying to dunk even if people watching say you can’t and suck and too small and will never make it. Keep jump roping, watching videos of people dunking and imagining how amazing it’ll feel to fly through the air and slam the ball through the hoop. In the end, fuck em and keep writing. | First separate genuine negative criticsm from trolls and bullies, the latter say what they say because of personal issues and those you can dismiss. Real criticsm like poor writing simply mean your piece need more work. It takes time to become a writer and even then it takes tons of rewrites and editing to write a good story, so just acknowledge you need to grow and keep writing, no one real expects you to be perfect right away. Find someone nice to read your stuff, don't show it to meanies and things will be okay. | 0 | 1,927 | 1.5 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | giggws4 | gigmrg6 | 1,610,047,489 | 1,610,050,098 | 2 | 3 | So what I do is compare my writing to my attempts at dunking a basketball on. Regulation size hoop. I’m 5’10” ish, so not too tall, but not too short. Long story short I can’t dunk. It’s ugly, I look silly, and anyone watching can see that I cannot dunk. It’s a terrible event. However, when I jump rope constantly, daily and go faster and faster and work in doubles my attempts at dunking is a little less pathetic. I still can’t dunk, but instead of people laughing they just say I can’t dunk. If I kept working at it, eventually I’d dunk and make them eat their words. Even I, a small under 6 foot guy, can eventually dunk. Writing is the same. Gotta grind it out. It’s gonna start rough, and then become awful and then real bad and then somewhat terrible and then okay, then average and then it’ll start being good until it’s great. The key is working through it. Keeping trying to dunk even if people watching say you can’t and suck and too small and will never make it. Keep jump roping, watching videos of people dunking and imagining how amazing it’ll feel to fly through the air and slam the ball through the hoop. In the end, fuck em and keep writing. | Someone who's saying "it's awful" isn't telling me anything useful, so I can safely ignore their feedback. I'll still have to go through The Three Stages Of Feedback, of course, but then it gets tossed aside. Someone who is telling me \*how\* it is awful is giving me tools I can use to make it better. In either case, there's no reason to abandon a project I'm passionate about just because of feedback. The essence of writing is re-writing, after all, and without feedback pointing directly to the actual flaws, how can I make it perfect? (trick question, because of course it will never be perfect and there will always be people who hate it. Such is life) | 0 | 2,609 | 1.5 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gih8dbe | giggws4 | 1,610,060,029 | 1,610,047,489 | 3 | 2 | I am lucky enough to have a well read friend to bounce things off of. I go over to his house with the latest chapters on my laptop. He reads it and voices his objections. If i feel strongly about why i wrote it the way i did we have an argument. Ultimately i have the power of veto for any changes he suggests, since it's my book, but he does a great job of explaining why something doesnt read well from his perspective. Probably 80 percent of the time i take his advice or make a change that's a compromise between what he said and what i wanted. I guess what i'm saying is half the problem is your readers. They aren't giving you constructive criticism, they're just hating. My guess is they are not well read enough to verbalize what they don't like about it and what you could do to fix it. | So what I do is compare my writing to my attempts at dunking a basketball on. Regulation size hoop. I’m 5’10” ish, so not too tall, but not too short. Long story short I can’t dunk. It’s ugly, I look silly, and anyone watching can see that I cannot dunk. It’s a terrible event. However, when I jump rope constantly, daily and go faster and faster and work in doubles my attempts at dunking is a little less pathetic. I still can’t dunk, but instead of people laughing they just say I can’t dunk. If I kept working at it, eventually I’d dunk and make them eat their words. Even I, a small under 6 foot guy, can eventually dunk. Writing is the same. Gotta grind it out. It’s gonna start rough, and then become awful and then real bad and then somewhat terrible and then okay, then average and then it’ll start being good until it’s great. The key is working through it. Keeping trying to dunk even if people watching say you can’t and suck and too small and will never make it. Keep jump roping, watching videos of people dunking and imagining how amazing it’ll feel to fly through the air and slam the ball through the hoop. In the end, fuck em and keep writing. | 1 | 12,540 | 1.5 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | giggws4 | gijoknj | 1,610,047,489 | 1,610,118,325 | 2 | 3 | So what I do is compare my writing to my attempts at dunking a basketball on. Regulation size hoop. I’m 5’10” ish, so not too tall, but not too short. Long story short I can’t dunk. It’s ugly, I look silly, and anyone watching can see that I cannot dunk. It’s a terrible event. However, when I jump rope constantly, daily and go faster and faster and work in doubles my attempts at dunking is a little less pathetic. I still can’t dunk, but instead of people laughing they just say I can’t dunk. If I kept working at it, eventually I’d dunk and make them eat their words. Even I, a small under 6 foot guy, can eventually dunk. Writing is the same. Gotta grind it out. It’s gonna start rough, and then become awful and then real bad and then somewhat terrible and then okay, then average and then it’ll start being good until it’s great. The key is working through it. Keeping trying to dunk even if people watching say you can’t and suck and too small and will never make it. Keep jump roping, watching videos of people dunking and imagining how amazing it’ll feel to fly through the air and slam the ball through the hoop. In the end, fuck em and keep writing. | There is a difference between being a critic and being an a-hole. A critic will say "I don't like it because...and I think it would be better if you did this or why not try this." A judgemental petty spoon who is just trying to hurt your feelings will say "This is crap" and nothing else. If someone is saying your work is bad ask why and if they can't answer, then tell them not to share their opinion because it is not helpful. Secondly, love your work. Be proud of it. Whether it is an aware winning masterpiece or whether it looks like you farted words onto a piece of paper, love and respect your work simply for the fact that it is your. Write. If you love to write then do it for no one but yourself. Creativity is like a muscle, the more you use it the stronger it gets. Harry Potter was rejected by 11 publishers before someone took it on! It sounds like you were surrounded by really bitter, twisted and jealous people. No one is bad at writing. There is no such thing as a bad writer. Anyone can do it. Everyone can do it. There is simply inexperience. | 0 | 70,836 | 1.5 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gigl90l | gigknvs | 1,610,049,416 | 1,610,049,152 | 3 | 1 | First separate genuine negative criticsm from trolls and bullies, the latter say what they say because of personal issues and those you can dismiss. Real criticsm like poor writing simply mean your piece need more work. It takes time to become a writer and even then it takes tons of rewrites and editing to write a good story, so just acknowledge you need to grow and keep writing, no one real expects you to be perfect right away. Find someone nice to read your stuff, don't show it to meanies and things will be okay. | Anyone who tells you straight up that your writing is “awful” without providing any helpful feedback you can disregard as a troll or a jerk. Art is subjective and thus not everyone will like your work. It’s the same reason people might call modern art trash/awful and others might call it amazing. It’s a taste thing, you can’t impress everyone. Now, if the comment provided context to what the person disliked or thinks is “awful”, take a breather, step away, and then come back to it later and think about why they might feel that way. Let’s say someone says your character is an asshole for example. First, you might wanna consider why they felt that way. What about your descriptions came off asshole-ish, then revise to improve and fix the issue. Feedback is just a part of writing, good feedback gives will give you powerful constructive feedback that’s really helpful and that will help you grow as a writer. Not so great ones will hurt, but stay strong. Writing is an art form of practice. Just keep at it, keep working, keep trying, join a supportive writing group, and one day you won’t even be able to hear the hate because you’ll be too busy listening to all the praise :3 | 1 | 264 | 3 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gigknvs | gigmrg6 | 1,610,049,152 | 1,610,050,098 | 1 | 3 | Anyone who tells you straight up that your writing is “awful” without providing any helpful feedback you can disregard as a troll or a jerk. Art is subjective and thus not everyone will like your work. It’s the same reason people might call modern art trash/awful and others might call it amazing. It’s a taste thing, you can’t impress everyone. Now, if the comment provided context to what the person disliked or thinks is “awful”, take a breather, step away, and then come back to it later and think about why they might feel that way. Let’s say someone says your character is an asshole for example. First, you might wanna consider why they felt that way. What about your descriptions came off asshole-ish, then revise to improve and fix the issue. Feedback is just a part of writing, good feedback gives will give you powerful constructive feedback that’s really helpful and that will help you grow as a writer. Not so great ones will hurt, but stay strong. Writing is an art form of practice. Just keep at it, keep working, keep trying, join a supportive writing group, and one day you won’t even be able to hear the hate because you’ll be too busy listening to all the praise :3 | Someone who's saying "it's awful" isn't telling me anything useful, so I can safely ignore their feedback. I'll still have to go through The Three Stages Of Feedback, of course, but then it gets tossed aside. Someone who is telling me \*how\* it is awful is giving me tools I can use to make it better. In either case, there's no reason to abandon a project I'm passionate about just because of feedback. The essence of writing is re-writing, after all, and without feedback pointing directly to the actual flaws, how can I make it perfect? (trick question, because of course it will never be perfect and there will always be people who hate it. Such is life) | 0 | 946 | 3 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gigp22s | gih8dbe | 1,610,051,133 | 1,610,060,029 | 2 | 3 | There's not really a black and white answer here to tell you the truth. Through limited experience negative constructive feed back is what I feel priceless. It makes you think twice about your writing and question yourself, plots, grammar etc. It will strengthen you as a writer. Now no matter how good or bad you are, you will never please everyone and that's the greatest advice I can give personally. If one or a handful of people don't like the plot for example then I'd say that's a personal opinion so I'd let that wash away without a second thought, however if many say the same then there are two things you can truly do. The easy option of giving up and wallow in self pitty or look at it from a different angle and make it work. That doesn't mean that it will be an international best seller, traditionally published or anything like that, but as long as your readers enjoy it then you have won. So there are times to take criticism and there are also times to stick your middle finger up to. Also ignore the trolls, there are some around unfortunately, but they don't know what they talk about. There are lots of people willing to help other writers out and many have helped me with truth and honesty, and they can also help you, but don't expect them to hold your hand on the journey, only you can walk the path of becoming a writer and it is a lonely road. Don't rely on enablers either (parents, close friends and close relatives for example), they just tell you what you want to hear and that's negative in it self. Writing ain't an easy road when you start or even if you're a pro, but you will improve being it a long road as I've found out, still working the finite details to my first MS. But if you truly want it then go and get it, no one will do it for you. Well hope that helped. | I am lucky enough to have a well read friend to bounce things off of. I go over to his house with the latest chapters on my laptop. He reads it and voices his objections. If i feel strongly about why i wrote it the way i did we have an argument. Ultimately i have the power of veto for any changes he suggests, since it's my book, but he does a great job of explaining why something doesnt read well from his perspective. Probably 80 percent of the time i take his advice or make a change that's a compromise between what he said and what i wanted. I guess what i'm saying is half the problem is your readers. They aren't giving you constructive criticism, they're just hating. My guess is they are not well read enough to verbalize what they don't like about it and what you could do to fix it. | 0 | 8,896 | 1.5 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gih8dbe | gih11z4 | 1,610,060,029 | 1,610,056,572 | 3 | 2 | I am lucky enough to have a well read friend to bounce things off of. I go over to his house with the latest chapters on my laptop. He reads it and voices his objections. If i feel strongly about why i wrote it the way i did we have an argument. Ultimately i have the power of veto for any changes he suggests, since it's my book, but he does a great job of explaining why something doesnt read well from his perspective. Probably 80 percent of the time i take his advice or make a change that's a compromise between what he said and what i wanted. I guess what i'm saying is half the problem is your readers. They aren't giving you constructive criticism, they're just hating. My guess is they are not well read enough to verbalize what they don't like about it and what you could do to fix it. | I posted what i thought was a fairly polished script on reddit about a year ago. The first response... "is this a f***ing joke?!?!" My heart sank like a lead balloon and a took a break from the feed for a few hours. I came back and asked directly "what is wrong?" The other user, though it became quite clear later from other comments, was an incredibly rude individual but he had some good points. My point is, even if someone comes at you and tell you you're shit and you shouldn't be wasting your time, ask them for creative feedback. If they offer none, they don't know what the f*** they're talking about. You be you and to hell with anyone who tells you not to be. | 1 | 3,457 | 1.5 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gigknvs | gih8dbe | 1,610,049,152 | 1,610,060,029 | 1 | 3 | Anyone who tells you straight up that your writing is “awful” without providing any helpful feedback you can disregard as a troll or a jerk. Art is subjective and thus not everyone will like your work. It’s the same reason people might call modern art trash/awful and others might call it amazing. It’s a taste thing, you can’t impress everyone. Now, if the comment provided context to what the person disliked or thinks is “awful”, take a breather, step away, and then come back to it later and think about why they might feel that way. Let’s say someone says your character is an asshole for example. First, you might wanna consider why they felt that way. What about your descriptions came off asshole-ish, then revise to improve and fix the issue. Feedback is just a part of writing, good feedback gives will give you powerful constructive feedback that’s really helpful and that will help you grow as a writer. Not so great ones will hurt, but stay strong. Writing is an art form of practice. Just keep at it, keep working, keep trying, join a supportive writing group, and one day you won’t even be able to hear the hate because you’ll be too busy listening to all the praise :3 | I am lucky enough to have a well read friend to bounce things off of. I go over to his house with the latest chapters on my laptop. He reads it and voices his objections. If i feel strongly about why i wrote it the way i did we have an argument. Ultimately i have the power of veto for any changes he suggests, since it's my book, but he does a great job of explaining why something doesnt read well from his perspective. Probably 80 percent of the time i take his advice or make a change that's a compromise between what he said and what i wanted. I guess what i'm saying is half the problem is your readers. They aren't giving you constructive criticism, they're just hating. My guess is they are not well read enough to verbalize what they don't like about it and what you could do to fix it. | 0 | 10,877 | 3 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gigtbv0 | gih8dbe | 1,610,053,068 | 1,610,060,029 | 1 | 3 | Grit is the resolve to keep going in the face of overwhelming odds. Harsh Criticism is overwhelming odds. So when someone criticised you, instead of taking it to heart, you sit down behind your keyboard and you write some more, and you look for ways to improve, and you keep going until people start saying good things about it. In the meantime, you take pride in the fact that you are developing strength of Character | I am lucky enough to have a well read friend to bounce things off of. I go over to his house with the latest chapters on my laptop. He reads it and voices his objections. If i feel strongly about why i wrote it the way i did we have an argument. Ultimately i have the power of veto for any changes he suggests, since it's my book, but he does a great job of explaining why something doesnt read well from his perspective. Probably 80 percent of the time i take his advice or make a change that's a compromise between what he said and what i wanted. I guess what i'm saying is half the problem is your readers. They aren't giving you constructive criticism, they're just hating. My guess is they are not well read enough to verbalize what they don't like about it and what you could do to fix it. | 0 | 6,961 | 3 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gigziwe | gih8dbe | 1,610,055,868 | 1,610,060,029 | 0 | 3 | If I'm honest, feedback like that confuses me. How can writing be bad? It's like if someone asked you to draw a dot. The only way the dot could be bad is if you didn't draw a dot. Anyone who writes is a good writer | I am lucky enough to have a well read friend to bounce things off of. I go over to his house with the latest chapters on my laptop. He reads it and voices his objections. If i feel strongly about why i wrote it the way i did we have an argument. Ultimately i have the power of veto for any changes he suggests, since it's my book, but he does a great job of explaining why something doesnt read well from his perspective. Probably 80 percent of the time i take his advice or make a change that's a compromise between what he said and what i wanted. I guess what i'm saying is half the problem is your readers. They aren't giving you constructive criticism, they're just hating. My guess is they are not well read enough to verbalize what they don't like about it and what you could do to fix it. | 0 | 4,161 | 3,000 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gijoknj | gigp22s | 1,610,118,325 | 1,610,051,133 | 3 | 2 | There is a difference between being a critic and being an a-hole. A critic will say "I don't like it because...and I think it would be better if you did this or why not try this." A judgemental petty spoon who is just trying to hurt your feelings will say "This is crap" and nothing else. If someone is saying your work is bad ask why and if they can't answer, then tell them not to share their opinion because it is not helpful. Secondly, love your work. Be proud of it. Whether it is an aware winning masterpiece or whether it looks like you farted words onto a piece of paper, love and respect your work simply for the fact that it is your. Write. If you love to write then do it for no one but yourself. Creativity is like a muscle, the more you use it the stronger it gets. Harry Potter was rejected by 11 publishers before someone took it on! It sounds like you were surrounded by really bitter, twisted and jealous people. No one is bad at writing. There is no such thing as a bad writer. Anyone can do it. Everyone can do it. There is simply inexperience. | There's not really a black and white answer here to tell you the truth. Through limited experience negative constructive feed back is what I feel priceless. It makes you think twice about your writing and question yourself, plots, grammar etc. It will strengthen you as a writer. Now no matter how good or bad you are, you will never please everyone and that's the greatest advice I can give personally. If one or a handful of people don't like the plot for example then I'd say that's a personal opinion so I'd let that wash away without a second thought, however if many say the same then there are two things you can truly do. The easy option of giving up and wallow in self pitty or look at it from a different angle and make it work. That doesn't mean that it will be an international best seller, traditionally published or anything like that, but as long as your readers enjoy it then you have won. So there are times to take criticism and there are also times to stick your middle finger up to. Also ignore the trolls, there are some around unfortunately, but they don't know what they talk about. There are lots of people willing to help other writers out and many have helped me with truth and honesty, and they can also help you, but don't expect them to hold your hand on the journey, only you can walk the path of becoming a writer and it is a lonely road. Don't rely on enablers either (parents, close friends and close relatives for example), they just tell you what you want to hear and that's negative in it self. Writing ain't an easy road when you start or even if you're a pro, but you will improve being it a long road as I've found out, still working the finite details to my first MS. But if you truly want it then go and get it, no one will do it for you. Well hope that helped. | 1 | 67,192 | 1.5 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gijoknj | gih11z4 | 1,610,118,325 | 1,610,056,572 | 3 | 2 | There is a difference between being a critic and being an a-hole. A critic will say "I don't like it because...and I think it would be better if you did this or why not try this." A judgemental petty spoon who is just trying to hurt your feelings will say "This is crap" and nothing else. If someone is saying your work is bad ask why and if they can't answer, then tell them not to share their opinion because it is not helpful. Secondly, love your work. Be proud of it. Whether it is an aware winning masterpiece or whether it looks like you farted words onto a piece of paper, love and respect your work simply for the fact that it is your. Write. If you love to write then do it for no one but yourself. Creativity is like a muscle, the more you use it the stronger it gets. Harry Potter was rejected by 11 publishers before someone took it on! It sounds like you were surrounded by really bitter, twisted and jealous people. No one is bad at writing. There is no such thing as a bad writer. Anyone can do it. Everyone can do it. There is simply inexperience. | I posted what i thought was a fairly polished script on reddit about a year ago. The first response... "is this a f***ing joke?!?!" My heart sank like a lead balloon and a took a break from the feed for a few hours. I came back and asked directly "what is wrong?" The other user, though it became quite clear later from other comments, was an incredibly rude individual but he had some good points. My point is, even if someone comes at you and tell you you're shit and you shouldn't be wasting your time, ask them for creative feedback. If they offer none, they don't know what the f*** they're talking about. You be you and to hell with anyone who tells you not to be. | 1 | 61,753 | 1.5 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gihz9op | gijoknj | 1,610,073,720 | 1,610,118,325 | 2 | 3 | I personally find Jeff Bezos' stance on accepting criticism to be helpful: >“You listen, you ask are they right, or even if they’re not completely right is there some piece of it that’s right that you can be inspired by,” Bezos said at the event in Washington D.C. “If you decide that your critics, that there is something, then you should change,” he continued. “If you decide, by the way, that the answer is no ... then no force in the world should be able to move you.” There's also a quote that came up in some discussion over at r/DestructiveReaders that I found helpful: >90% of the time that someone says some part of your writing sucks, they're right. 90% of the time that they follow up and tell you how to fix it, they're also wrong. Basically... I accept I haven't written much and that most of what I submit isn't too great. I also accept that the people giving me feedback aren't professional authors and also don't know me, so there is a chance they'll voice their criticism in a way that doesn't resonate with me. Even if they're a total social dunce and incapable of expressing their own thoughts, what it does come down to is this: there's apparently something with \[whatever part of my writing it is\] that isn't sitting right with them. Maybe it isn't wrong in the way they thought it was wrong, and maybe their solution is useless. Not everyone can fix what's broken, but most people can sort of intuit that something might be a bit off. I just keep that in mind, and then when I'm reading, I see how authors I enjoy deal with those same scenes/situations. Of course F Scott Fitzgerald is a better writer than me -- saying that my writing sucks compared to his is useless. But instead asking "how Fitzgerald writes a character walking into a room and describing what he sees vs how I do" -- that's a much, much more narrow context that makes it easier for me to identify pain points in my writing and learn from. Does that make sense? * Use feedback to identify potential problems in a more general sense * Look for scenes in books you read dealing with similar issues that you can compare with yours * Identify a few potential examples if how others got over that hurdle * Try it out in your own writing, see what sort of feedback you get next time * Eventually you'll find an approach that works for you This is a cycle, after all :p It wouldn't be any fun if you just knew everything at 18. | There is a difference between being a critic and being an a-hole. A critic will say "I don't like it because...and I think it would be better if you did this or why not try this." A judgemental petty spoon who is just trying to hurt your feelings will say "This is crap" and nothing else. If someone is saying your work is bad ask why and if they can't answer, then tell them not to share their opinion because it is not helpful. Secondly, love your work. Be proud of it. Whether it is an aware winning masterpiece or whether it looks like you farted words onto a piece of paper, love and respect your work simply for the fact that it is your. Write. If you love to write then do it for no one but yourself. Creativity is like a muscle, the more you use it the stronger it gets. Harry Potter was rejected by 11 publishers before someone took it on! It sounds like you were surrounded by really bitter, twisted and jealous people. No one is bad at writing. There is no such thing as a bad writer. Anyone can do it. Everyone can do it. There is simply inexperience. | 0 | 44,605 | 1.5 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gijoknj | giibzlf | 1,610,118,325 | 1,610,080,661 | 3 | 2 | There is a difference between being a critic and being an a-hole. A critic will say "I don't like it because...and I think it would be better if you did this or why not try this." A judgemental petty spoon who is just trying to hurt your feelings will say "This is crap" and nothing else. If someone is saying your work is bad ask why and if they can't answer, then tell them not to share their opinion because it is not helpful. Secondly, love your work. Be proud of it. Whether it is an aware winning masterpiece or whether it looks like you farted words onto a piece of paper, love and respect your work simply for the fact that it is your. Write. If you love to write then do it for no one but yourself. Creativity is like a muscle, the more you use it the stronger it gets. Harry Potter was rejected by 11 publishers before someone took it on! It sounds like you were surrounded by really bitter, twisted and jealous people. No one is bad at writing. There is no such thing as a bad writer. Anyone can do it. Everyone can do it. There is simply inexperience. | you should find a good friend with similar interest where you can get comfortably judge. Maybe your story is really bad, I don't know but find a good friend to give you advice | 1 | 37,664 | 1.5 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | giio1zf | gijoknj | 1,610,088,876 | 1,610,118,325 | 2 | 3 | You don't have to post everything You write. Get some friends or family to read it. Do You ever fix your work? | There is a difference between being a critic and being an a-hole. A critic will say "I don't like it because...and I think it would be better if you did this or why not try this." A judgemental petty spoon who is just trying to hurt your feelings will say "This is crap" and nothing else. If someone is saying your work is bad ask why and if they can't answer, then tell them not to share their opinion because it is not helpful. Secondly, love your work. Be proud of it. Whether it is an aware winning masterpiece or whether it looks like you farted words onto a piece of paper, love and respect your work simply for the fact that it is your. Write. If you love to write then do it for no one but yourself. Creativity is like a muscle, the more you use it the stronger it gets. Harry Potter was rejected by 11 publishers before someone took it on! It sounds like you were surrounded by really bitter, twisted and jealous people. No one is bad at writing. There is no such thing as a bad writer. Anyone can do it. Everyone can do it. There is simply inexperience. | 0 | 29,449 | 1.5 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gijoknj | giiur2p | 1,610,118,325 | 1,610,094,764 | 3 | 2 | There is a difference between being a critic and being an a-hole. A critic will say "I don't like it because...and I think it would be better if you did this or why not try this." A judgemental petty spoon who is just trying to hurt your feelings will say "This is crap" and nothing else. If someone is saying your work is bad ask why and if they can't answer, then tell them not to share their opinion because it is not helpful. Secondly, love your work. Be proud of it. Whether it is an aware winning masterpiece or whether it looks like you farted words onto a piece of paper, love and respect your work simply for the fact that it is your. Write. If you love to write then do it for no one but yourself. Creativity is like a muscle, the more you use it the stronger it gets. Harry Potter was rejected by 11 publishers before someone took it on! It sounds like you were surrounded by really bitter, twisted and jealous people. No one is bad at writing. There is no such thing as a bad writer. Anyone can do it. Everyone can do it. There is simply inexperience. | > would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? I would try to figure out what is wrong with it. Either they're all assholes or there's something fundamental that's off with my writing if everyone I put it in front of trashes it. So I'd go into full research mode about how it ought to be done. | 1 | 23,561 | 1.5 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gijoknj | gigknvs | 1,610,118,325 | 1,610,049,152 | 3 | 1 | There is a difference between being a critic and being an a-hole. A critic will say "I don't like it because...and I think it would be better if you did this or why not try this." A judgemental petty spoon who is just trying to hurt your feelings will say "This is crap" and nothing else. If someone is saying your work is bad ask why and if they can't answer, then tell them not to share their opinion because it is not helpful. Secondly, love your work. Be proud of it. Whether it is an aware winning masterpiece or whether it looks like you farted words onto a piece of paper, love and respect your work simply for the fact that it is your. Write. If you love to write then do it for no one but yourself. Creativity is like a muscle, the more you use it the stronger it gets. Harry Potter was rejected by 11 publishers before someone took it on! It sounds like you were surrounded by really bitter, twisted and jealous people. No one is bad at writing. There is no such thing as a bad writer. Anyone can do it. Everyone can do it. There is simply inexperience. | Anyone who tells you straight up that your writing is “awful” without providing any helpful feedback you can disregard as a troll or a jerk. Art is subjective and thus not everyone will like your work. It’s the same reason people might call modern art trash/awful and others might call it amazing. It’s a taste thing, you can’t impress everyone. Now, if the comment provided context to what the person disliked or thinks is “awful”, take a breather, step away, and then come back to it later and think about why they might feel that way. Let’s say someone says your character is an asshole for example. First, you might wanna consider why they felt that way. What about your descriptions came off asshole-ish, then revise to improve and fix the issue. Feedback is just a part of writing, good feedback gives will give you powerful constructive feedback that’s really helpful and that will help you grow as a writer. Not so great ones will hurt, but stay strong. Writing is an art form of practice. Just keep at it, keep working, keep trying, join a supportive writing group, and one day you won’t even be able to hear the hate because you’ll be too busy listening to all the praise :3 | 1 | 69,173 | 3 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gijoknj | gigtbv0 | 1,610,118,325 | 1,610,053,068 | 3 | 1 | There is a difference between being a critic and being an a-hole. A critic will say "I don't like it because...and I think it would be better if you did this or why not try this." A judgemental petty spoon who is just trying to hurt your feelings will say "This is crap" and nothing else. If someone is saying your work is bad ask why and if they can't answer, then tell them not to share their opinion because it is not helpful. Secondly, love your work. Be proud of it. Whether it is an aware winning masterpiece or whether it looks like you farted words onto a piece of paper, love and respect your work simply for the fact that it is your. Write. If you love to write then do it for no one but yourself. Creativity is like a muscle, the more you use it the stronger it gets. Harry Potter was rejected by 11 publishers before someone took it on! It sounds like you were surrounded by really bitter, twisted and jealous people. No one is bad at writing. There is no such thing as a bad writer. Anyone can do it. Everyone can do it. There is simply inexperience. | Grit is the resolve to keep going in the face of overwhelming odds. Harsh Criticism is overwhelming odds. So when someone criticised you, instead of taking it to heart, you sit down behind your keyboard and you write some more, and you look for ways to improve, and you keep going until people start saying good things about it. In the meantime, you take pride in the fact that you are developing strength of Character | 1 | 65,257 | 3 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gigziwe | gijoknj | 1,610,055,868 | 1,610,118,325 | 0 | 3 | If I'm honest, feedback like that confuses me. How can writing be bad? It's like if someone asked you to draw a dot. The only way the dot could be bad is if you didn't draw a dot. Anyone who writes is a good writer | There is a difference between being a critic and being an a-hole. A critic will say "I don't like it because...and I think it would be better if you did this or why not try this." A judgemental petty spoon who is just trying to hurt your feelings will say "This is crap" and nothing else. If someone is saying your work is bad ask why and if they can't answer, then tell them not to share their opinion because it is not helpful. Secondly, love your work. Be proud of it. Whether it is an aware winning masterpiece or whether it looks like you farted words onto a piece of paper, love and respect your work simply for the fact that it is your. Write. If you love to write then do it for no one but yourself. Creativity is like a muscle, the more you use it the stronger it gets. Harry Potter was rejected by 11 publishers before someone took it on! It sounds like you were surrounded by really bitter, twisted and jealous people. No one is bad at writing. There is no such thing as a bad writer. Anyone can do it. Everyone can do it. There is simply inexperience. | 0 | 62,457 | 3,000 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gii36bp | gijoknj | 1,610,075,791 | 1,610,118,325 | 1 | 3 | Ignore feedback at your peril. Figure out where you can improve - and then do it. All first drafts are terrible, the beauty comes through the editing process. | There is a difference between being a critic and being an a-hole. A critic will say "I don't like it because...and I think it would be better if you did this or why not try this." A judgemental petty spoon who is just trying to hurt your feelings will say "This is crap" and nothing else. If someone is saying your work is bad ask why and if they can't answer, then tell them not to share their opinion because it is not helpful. Secondly, love your work. Be proud of it. Whether it is an aware winning masterpiece or whether it looks like you farted words onto a piece of paper, love and respect your work simply for the fact that it is your. Write. If you love to write then do it for no one but yourself. Creativity is like a muscle, the more you use it the stronger it gets. Harry Potter was rejected by 11 publishers before someone took it on! It sounds like you were surrounded by really bitter, twisted and jealous people. No one is bad at writing. There is no such thing as a bad writer. Anyone can do it. Everyone can do it. There is simply inexperience. | 0 | 42,534 | 3 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gijoknj | giihdqb | 1,610,118,325 | 1,610,084,039 | 3 | 1 | There is a difference between being a critic and being an a-hole. A critic will say "I don't like it because...and I think it would be better if you did this or why not try this." A judgemental petty spoon who is just trying to hurt your feelings will say "This is crap" and nothing else. If someone is saying your work is bad ask why and if they can't answer, then tell them not to share their opinion because it is not helpful. Secondly, love your work. Be proud of it. Whether it is an aware winning masterpiece or whether it looks like you farted words onto a piece of paper, love and respect your work simply for the fact that it is your. Write. If you love to write then do it for no one but yourself. Creativity is like a muscle, the more you use it the stronger it gets. Harry Potter was rejected by 11 publishers before someone took it on! It sounds like you were surrounded by really bitter, twisted and jealous people. No one is bad at writing. There is no such thing as a bad writer. Anyone can do it. Everyone can do it. There is simply inexperience. | Find the difference between constructive and destructive criticism. Constructive - advice on how to make it better, well thought out points of things they did not like and possibly some positives stuff mixed in too. destructive - saying its awful, trash, personal insults and telling you to give up. If it's constructive - listen closely and take notes. This is a valuable learning experience. If it's purely destructive - don't give it a second thought, they don't deserve your time/attention. | 1 | 34,286 | 3 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | giinhhm | gijoknj | 1,610,088,422 | 1,610,118,325 | 1 | 3 | I honestly believe negative feedback is very essential for the development of a writer's skill. Nonetheless, not all negative reviews are true, some negative reviews are just utter trash from a misinformed critic! | There is a difference between being a critic and being an a-hole. A critic will say "I don't like it because...and I think it would be better if you did this or why not try this." A judgemental petty spoon who is just trying to hurt your feelings will say "This is crap" and nothing else. If someone is saying your work is bad ask why and if they can't answer, then tell them not to share their opinion because it is not helpful. Secondly, love your work. Be proud of it. Whether it is an aware winning masterpiece or whether it looks like you farted words onto a piece of paper, love and respect your work simply for the fact that it is your. Write. If you love to write then do it for no one but yourself. Creativity is like a muscle, the more you use it the stronger it gets. Harry Potter was rejected by 11 publishers before someone took it on! It sounds like you were surrounded by really bitter, twisted and jealous people. No one is bad at writing. There is no such thing as a bad writer. Anyone can do it. Everyone can do it. There is simply inexperience. | 0 | 29,903 | 3 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | giisd7k | gijoknj | 1,610,092,552 | 1,610,118,325 | 1 | 3 | in my philosophy, feedback is feedback, of course, if they say it's awful then they should tell me why they think it's awful. if someone just praises or criticizes your work. there should be a reason for their opinion if they just tell you its bad or its good without any real reason. then you can just ignore their input since they have nothing to add. | There is a difference between being a critic and being an a-hole. A critic will say "I don't like it because...and I think it would be better if you did this or why not try this." A judgemental petty spoon who is just trying to hurt your feelings will say "This is crap" and nothing else. If someone is saying your work is bad ask why and if they can't answer, then tell them not to share their opinion because it is not helpful. Secondly, love your work. Be proud of it. Whether it is an aware winning masterpiece or whether it looks like you farted words onto a piece of paper, love and respect your work simply for the fact that it is your. Write. If you love to write then do it for no one but yourself. Creativity is like a muscle, the more you use it the stronger it gets. Harry Potter was rejected by 11 publishers before someone took it on! It sounds like you were surrounded by really bitter, twisted and jealous people. No one is bad at writing. There is no such thing as a bad writer. Anyone can do it. Everyone can do it. There is simply inexperience. | 0 | 25,773 | 3 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | giixbjm | gijoknj | 1,610,097,261 | 1,610,118,325 | 1 | 3 | If you listened to a child who just started violin lessons you wouldn't expect them to be good, but adequate to their skill level. If you listened to a kid that started playing again after quitting for a while you still wouldn't compare them to a professional musicist. People, and even some writers, tend to judge storytelling and prose by comparing them to the books and movies they like, which is a way higher standard than some other activities, sports and arts get. Also people don't understand how vulnerable artists feel about their work, or if they are creative themselves, they know and are often tempted to push you down for any reason, like to make themselves feel better, or so they don't have to actually understand and try to appreciate what you were aiming to do. For all that matters, I still cringe at some stuff I wrote in highschool, but I still respect it, because now that I improved I can see the diamond that was in that rough, and even now, when someone else or I myself calls something I wrote "awful" (usually the latter), I try to remember that I'm always close to improving further to a new and better kind of "awful". | There is a difference between being a critic and being an a-hole. A critic will say "I don't like it because...and I think it would be better if you did this or why not try this." A judgemental petty spoon who is just trying to hurt your feelings will say "This is crap" and nothing else. If someone is saying your work is bad ask why and if they can't answer, then tell them not to share their opinion because it is not helpful. Secondly, love your work. Be proud of it. Whether it is an aware winning masterpiece or whether it looks like you farted words onto a piece of paper, love and respect your work simply for the fact that it is your. Write. If you love to write then do it for no one but yourself. Creativity is like a muscle, the more you use it the stronger it gets. Harry Potter was rejected by 11 publishers before someone took it on! It sounds like you were surrounded by really bitter, twisted and jealous people. No one is bad at writing. There is no such thing as a bad writer. Anyone can do it. Everyone can do it. There is simply inexperience. | 0 | 21,064 | 3 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gijoknj | gij4rqn | 1,610,118,325 | 1,610,104,688 | 3 | 1 | There is a difference between being a critic and being an a-hole. A critic will say "I don't like it because...and I think it would be better if you did this or why not try this." A judgemental petty spoon who is just trying to hurt your feelings will say "This is crap" and nothing else. If someone is saying your work is bad ask why and if they can't answer, then tell them not to share their opinion because it is not helpful. Secondly, love your work. Be proud of it. Whether it is an aware winning masterpiece or whether it looks like you farted words onto a piece of paper, love and respect your work simply for the fact that it is your. Write. If you love to write then do it for no one but yourself. Creativity is like a muscle, the more you use it the stronger it gets. Harry Potter was rejected by 11 publishers before someone took it on! It sounds like you were surrounded by really bitter, twisted and jealous people. No one is bad at writing. There is no such thing as a bad writer. Anyone can do it. Everyone can do it. There is simply inexperience. | I was around twelve when I started writing novels. And it wasn't until i was around 14 that I grew comfortable enough to share my work. It was the first draft of latest work. I shared it with my classmate who said that it was the worst story he had ever read. Do you know what I did? I deleted that novel and I started writing again. This time a novel that actually got published. I think what most people don't realized that even the worst pieces of fiction that they pay to consume are extremely polished products. Multiple drafts were written before these books were publishable or screenplays adaptable. And by the time a writer gets to be published, they have already gained the experience of working on multiple projects before. Only then are the stories not terrible. What most people don't realize is that they are only experiencing the pristine looking tip of a mountain made of garbage when they experience an author's work. So when you give them a piece of the lower end of your mountain of work, they are going to think it garbage. Stick with it, you are going to get better. Stick with it and some day perhaps people will hold their breath to read your next bit of content that you put out. Don't let the negative feedback discourage you. | 1 | 13,637 | 3 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gijoknj | gij7mzn | 1,610,118,325 | 1,610,107,380 | 3 | 1 | There is a difference between being a critic and being an a-hole. A critic will say "I don't like it because...and I think it would be better if you did this or why not try this." A judgemental petty spoon who is just trying to hurt your feelings will say "This is crap" and nothing else. If someone is saying your work is bad ask why and if they can't answer, then tell them not to share their opinion because it is not helpful. Secondly, love your work. Be proud of it. Whether it is an aware winning masterpiece or whether it looks like you farted words onto a piece of paper, love and respect your work simply for the fact that it is your. Write. If you love to write then do it for no one but yourself. Creativity is like a muscle, the more you use it the stronger it gets. Harry Potter was rejected by 11 publishers before someone took it on! It sounds like you were surrounded by really bitter, twisted and jealous people. No one is bad at writing. There is no such thing as a bad writer. Anyone can do it. Everyone can do it. There is simply inexperience. | Keep writing, but work on improving. Join a critique group or, as others have said, find someone who can tell you what needs improvement, what didn't work for them, and what pulled them from the story. Also, gain more knowledge on story structure and writing techniques. I just read a great book called *The Nutshell Technique* by Jill Chamberlain. She discusses story structure and the basic elements that must work together to form a resonating story. You can also take online courses in creative writing and screenwriting where the instructor and your classmates can help you hone your craft amd point out what's working and what isn't. Last piece of advice: READ. Read in your genre. Watch movies with a critical eye, trying to pick up on dialogue and plot points. If you're focused on screenwriting, read screenplays. As Steven King said (also add *On Writing* to your TBR list), "If you don't have the time to read, you don't have the time, or the tools, to write." Don't give up. | 1 | 10,945 | 3 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gigp22s | gigknvs | 1,610,051,133 | 1,610,049,152 | 2 | 1 | There's not really a black and white answer here to tell you the truth. Through limited experience negative constructive feed back is what I feel priceless. It makes you think twice about your writing and question yourself, plots, grammar etc. It will strengthen you as a writer. Now no matter how good or bad you are, you will never please everyone and that's the greatest advice I can give personally. If one or a handful of people don't like the plot for example then I'd say that's a personal opinion so I'd let that wash away without a second thought, however if many say the same then there are two things you can truly do. The easy option of giving up and wallow in self pitty or look at it from a different angle and make it work. That doesn't mean that it will be an international best seller, traditionally published or anything like that, but as long as your readers enjoy it then you have won. So there are times to take criticism and there are also times to stick your middle finger up to. Also ignore the trolls, there are some around unfortunately, but they don't know what they talk about. There are lots of people willing to help other writers out and many have helped me with truth and honesty, and they can also help you, but don't expect them to hold your hand on the journey, only you can walk the path of becoming a writer and it is a lonely road. Don't rely on enablers either (parents, close friends and close relatives for example), they just tell you what you want to hear and that's negative in it self. Writing ain't an easy road when you start or even if you're a pro, but you will improve being it a long road as I've found out, still working the finite details to my first MS. But if you truly want it then go and get it, no one will do it for you. Well hope that helped. | Anyone who tells you straight up that your writing is “awful” without providing any helpful feedback you can disregard as a troll or a jerk. Art is subjective and thus not everyone will like your work. It’s the same reason people might call modern art trash/awful and others might call it amazing. It’s a taste thing, you can’t impress everyone. Now, if the comment provided context to what the person disliked or thinks is “awful”, take a breather, step away, and then come back to it later and think about why they might feel that way. Let’s say someone says your character is an asshole for example. First, you might wanna consider why they felt that way. What about your descriptions came off asshole-ish, then revise to improve and fix the issue. Feedback is just a part of writing, good feedback gives will give you powerful constructive feedback that’s really helpful and that will help you grow as a writer. Not so great ones will hurt, but stay strong. Writing is an art form of practice. Just keep at it, keep working, keep trying, join a supportive writing group, and one day you won’t even be able to hear the hate because you’ll be too busy listening to all the praise :3 | 1 | 1,981 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gih11z4 | gigknvs | 1,610,056,572 | 1,610,049,152 | 2 | 1 | I posted what i thought was a fairly polished script on reddit about a year ago. The first response... "is this a f***ing joke?!?!" My heart sank like a lead balloon and a took a break from the feed for a few hours. I came back and asked directly "what is wrong?" The other user, though it became quite clear later from other comments, was an incredibly rude individual but he had some good points. My point is, even if someone comes at you and tell you you're shit and you shouldn't be wasting your time, ask them for creative feedback. If they offer none, they don't know what the f*** they're talking about. You be you and to hell with anyone who tells you not to be. | Anyone who tells you straight up that your writing is “awful” without providing any helpful feedback you can disregard as a troll or a jerk. Art is subjective and thus not everyone will like your work. It’s the same reason people might call modern art trash/awful and others might call it amazing. It’s a taste thing, you can’t impress everyone. Now, if the comment provided context to what the person disliked or thinks is “awful”, take a breather, step away, and then come back to it later and think about why they might feel that way. Let’s say someone says your character is an asshole for example. First, you might wanna consider why they felt that way. What about your descriptions came off asshole-ish, then revise to improve and fix the issue. Feedback is just a part of writing, good feedback gives will give you powerful constructive feedback that’s really helpful and that will help you grow as a writer. Not so great ones will hurt, but stay strong. Writing is an art form of practice. Just keep at it, keep working, keep trying, join a supportive writing group, and one day you won’t even be able to hear the hate because you’ll be too busy listening to all the praise :3 | 1 | 7,420 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gih11z4 | gigtbv0 | 1,610,056,572 | 1,610,053,068 | 2 | 1 | I posted what i thought was a fairly polished script on reddit about a year ago. The first response... "is this a f***ing joke?!?!" My heart sank like a lead balloon and a took a break from the feed for a few hours. I came back and asked directly "what is wrong?" The other user, though it became quite clear later from other comments, was an incredibly rude individual but he had some good points. My point is, even if someone comes at you and tell you you're shit and you shouldn't be wasting your time, ask them for creative feedback. If they offer none, they don't know what the f*** they're talking about. You be you and to hell with anyone who tells you not to be. | Grit is the resolve to keep going in the face of overwhelming odds. Harsh Criticism is overwhelming odds. So when someone criticised you, instead of taking it to heart, you sit down behind your keyboard and you write some more, and you look for ways to improve, and you keep going until people start saying good things about it. In the meantime, you take pride in the fact that you are developing strength of Character | 1 | 3,504 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gigziwe | gih11z4 | 1,610,055,868 | 1,610,056,572 | 0 | 2 | If I'm honest, feedback like that confuses me. How can writing be bad? It's like if someone asked you to draw a dot. The only way the dot could be bad is if you didn't draw a dot. Anyone who writes is a good writer | I posted what i thought was a fairly polished script on reddit about a year ago. The first response... "is this a f***ing joke?!?!" My heart sank like a lead balloon and a took a break from the feed for a few hours. I came back and asked directly "what is wrong?" The other user, though it became quite clear later from other comments, was an incredibly rude individual but he had some good points. My point is, even if someone comes at you and tell you you're shit and you shouldn't be wasting your time, ask them for creative feedback. If they offer none, they don't know what the f*** they're talking about. You be you and to hell with anyone who tells you not to be. | 0 | 704 | 2,000 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gihz9op | gigknvs | 1,610,073,720 | 1,610,049,152 | 2 | 1 | I personally find Jeff Bezos' stance on accepting criticism to be helpful: >“You listen, you ask are they right, or even if they’re not completely right is there some piece of it that’s right that you can be inspired by,” Bezos said at the event in Washington D.C. “If you decide that your critics, that there is something, then you should change,” he continued. “If you decide, by the way, that the answer is no ... then no force in the world should be able to move you.” There's also a quote that came up in some discussion over at r/DestructiveReaders that I found helpful: >90% of the time that someone says some part of your writing sucks, they're right. 90% of the time that they follow up and tell you how to fix it, they're also wrong. Basically... I accept I haven't written much and that most of what I submit isn't too great. I also accept that the people giving me feedback aren't professional authors and also don't know me, so there is a chance they'll voice their criticism in a way that doesn't resonate with me. Even if they're a total social dunce and incapable of expressing their own thoughts, what it does come down to is this: there's apparently something with \[whatever part of my writing it is\] that isn't sitting right with them. Maybe it isn't wrong in the way they thought it was wrong, and maybe their solution is useless. Not everyone can fix what's broken, but most people can sort of intuit that something might be a bit off. I just keep that in mind, and then when I'm reading, I see how authors I enjoy deal with those same scenes/situations. Of course F Scott Fitzgerald is a better writer than me -- saying that my writing sucks compared to his is useless. But instead asking "how Fitzgerald writes a character walking into a room and describing what he sees vs how I do" -- that's a much, much more narrow context that makes it easier for me to identify pain points in my writing and learn from. Does that make sense? * Use feedback to identify potential problems in a more general sense * Look for scenes in books you read dealing with similar issues that you can compare with yours * Identify a few potential examples if how others got over that hurdle * Try it out in your own writing, see what sort of feedback you get next time * Eventually you'll find an approach that works for you This is a cycle, after all :p It wouldn't be any fun if you just knew everything at 18. | Anyone who tells you straight up that your writing is “awful” without providing any helpful feedback you can disregard as a troll or a jerk. Art is subjective and thus not everyone will like your work. It’s the same reason people might call modern art trash/awful and others might call it amazing. It’s a taste thing, you can’t impress everyone. Now, if the comment provided context to what the person disliked or thinks is “awful”, take a breather, step away, and then come back to it later and think about why they might feel that way. Let’s say someone says your character is an asshole for example. First, you might wanna consider why they felt that way. What about your descriptions came off asshole-ish, then revise to improve and fix the issue. Feedback is just a part of writing, good feedback gives will give you powerful constructive feedback that’s really helpful and that will help you grow as a writer. Not so great ones will hurt, but stay strong. Writing is an art form of practice. Just keep at it, keep working, keep trying, join a supportive writing group, and one day you won’t even be able to hear the hate because you’ll be too busy listening to all the praise :3 | 1 | 24,568 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gihz9op | gigtbv0 | 1,610,073,720 | 1,610,053,068 | 2 | 1 | I personally find Jeff Bezos' stance on accepting criticism to be helpful: >“You listen, you ask are they right, or even if they’re not completely right is there some piece of it that’s right that you can be inspired by,” Bezos said at the event in Washington D.C. “If you decide that your critics, that there is something, then you should change,” he continued. “If you decide, by the way, that the answer is no ... then no force in the world should be able to move you.” There's also a quote that came up in some discussion over at r/DestructiveReaders that I found helpful: >90% of the time that someone says some part of your writing sucks, they're right. 90% of the time that they follow up and tell you how to fix it, they're also wrong. Basically... I accept I haven't written much and that most of what I submit isn't too great. I also accept that the people giving me feedback aren't professional authors and also don't know me, so there is a chance they'll voice their criticism in a way that doesn't resonate with me. Even if they're a total social dunce and incapable of expressing their own thoughts, what it does come down to is this: there's apparently something with \[whatever part of my writing it is\] that isn't sitting right with them. Maybe it isn't wrong in the way they thought it was wrong, and maybe their solution is useless. Not everyone can fix what's broken, but most people can sort of intuit that something might be a bit off. I just keep that in mind, and then when I'm reading, I see how authors I enjoy deal with those same scenes/situations. Of course F Scott Fitzgerald is a better writer than me -- saying that my writing sucks compared to his is useless. But instead asking "how Fitzgerald writes a character walking into a room and describing what he sees vs how I do" -- that's a much, much more narrow context that makes it easier for me to identify pain points in my writing and learn from. Does that make sense? * Use feedback to identify potential problems in a more general sense * Look for scenes in books you read dealing with similar issues that you can compare with yours * Identify a few potential examples if how others got over that hurdle * Try it out in your own writing, see what sort of feedback you get next time * Eventually you'll find an approach that works for you This is a cycle, after all :p It wouldn't be any fun if you just knew everything at 18. | Grit is the resolve to keep going in the face of overwhelming odds. Harsh Criticism is overwhelming odds. So when someone criticised you, instead of taking it to heart, you sit down behind your keyboard and you write some more, and you look for ways to improve, and you keep going until people start saying good things about it. In the meantime, you take pride in the fact that you are developing strength of Character | 1 | 20,652 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gigziwe | gihz9op | 1,610,055,868 | 1,610,073,720 | 0 | 2 | If I'm honest, feedback like that confuses me. How can writing be bad? It's like if someone asked you to draw a dot. The only way the dot could be bad is if you didn't draw a dot. Anyone who writes is a good writer | I personally find Jeff Bezos' stance on accepting criticism to be helpful: >“You listen, you ask are they right, or even if they’re not completely right is there some piece of it that’s right that you can be inspired by,” Bezos said at the event in Washington D.C. “If you decide that your critics, that there is something, then you should change,” he continued. “If you decide, by the way, that the answer is no ... then no force in the world should be able to move you.” There's also a quote that came up in some discussion over at r/DestructiveReaders that I found helpful: >90% of the time that someone says some part of your writing sucks, they're right. 90% of the time that they follow up and tell you how to fix it, they're also wrong. Basically... I accept I haven't written much and that most of what I submit isn't too great. I also accept that the people giving me feedback aren't professional authors and also don't know me, so there is a chance they'll voice their criticism in a way that doesn't resonate with me. Even if they're a total social dunce and incapable of expressing their own thoughts, what it does come down to is this: there's apparently something with \[whatever part of my writing it is\] that isn't sitting right with them. Maybe it isn't wrong in the way they thought it was wrong, and maybe their solution is useless. Not everyone can fix what's broken, but most people can sort of intuit that something might be a bit off. I just keep that in mind, and then when I'm reading, I see how authors I enjoy deal with those same scenes/situations. Of course F Scott Fitzgerald is a better writer than me -- saying that my writing sucks compared to his is useless. But instead asking "how Fitzgerald writes a character walking into a room and describing what he sees vs how I do" -- that's a much, much more narrow context that makes it easier for me to identify pain points in my writing and learn from. Does that make sense? * Use feedback to identify potential problems in a more general sense * Look for scenes in books you read dealing with similar issues that you can compare with yours * Identify a few potential examples if how others got over that hurdle * Try it out in your own writing, see what sort of feedback you get next time * Eventually you'll find an approach that works for you This is a cycle, after all :p It wouldn't be any fun if you just knew everything at 18. | 0 | 17,852 | 2,000 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | giibzlf | gigknvs | 1,610,080,661 | 1,610,049,152 | 2 | 1 | you should find a good friend with similar interest where you can get comfortably judge. Maybe your story is really bad, I don't know but find a good friend to give you advice | Anyone who tells you straight up that your writing is “awful” without providing any helpful feedback you can disregard as a troll or a jerk. Art is subjective and thus not everyone will like your work. It’s the same reason people might call modern art trash/awful and others might call it amazing. It’s a taste thing, you can’t impress everyone. Now, if the comment provided context to what the person disliked or thinks is “awful”, take a breather, step away, and then come back to it later and think about why they might feel that way. Let’s say someone says your character is an asshole for example. First, you might wanna consider why they felt that way. What about your descriptions came off asshole-ish, then revise to improve and fix the issue. Feedback is just a part of writing, good feedback gives will give you powerful constructive feedback that’s really helpful and that will help you grow as a writer. Not so great ones will hurt, but stay strong. Writing is an art form of practice. Just keep at it, keep working, keep trying, join a supportive writing group, and one day you won’t even be able to hear the hate because you’ll be too busy listening to all the praise :3 | 1 | 31,509 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gigtbv0 | giibzlf | 1,610,053,068 | 1,610,080,661 | 1 | 2 | Grit is the resolve to keep going in the face of overwhelming odds. Harsh Criticism is overwhelming odds. So when someone criticised you, instead of taking it to heart, you sit down behind your keyboard and you write some more, and you look for ways to improve, and you keep going until people start saying good things about it. In the meantime, you take pride in the fact that you are developing strength of Character | you should find a good friend with similar interest where you can get comfortably judge. Maybe your story is really bad, I don't know but find a good friend to give you advice | 0 | 27,593 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | giibzlf | gigziwe | 1,610,080,661 | 1,610,055,868 | 2 | 0 | you should find a good friend with similar interest where you can get comfortably judge. Maybe your story is really bad, I don't know but find a good friend to give you advice | If I'm honest, feedback like that confuses me. How can writing be bad? It's like if someone asked you to draw a dot. The only way the dot could be bad is if you didn't draw a dot. Anyone who writes is a good writer | 1 | 24,793 | 2,000 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gii36bp | giibzlf | 1,610,075,791 | 1,610,080,661 | 1 | 2 | Ignore feedback at your peril. Figure out where you can improve - and then do it. All first drafts are terrible, the beauty comes through the editing process. | you should find a good friend with similar interest where you can get comfortably judge. Maybe your story is really bad, I don't know but find a good friend to give you advice | 0 | 4,870 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gigknvs | giio1zf | 1,610,049,152 | 1,610,088,876 | 1 | 2 | Anyone who tells you straight up that your writing is “awful” without providing any helpful feedback you can disregard as a troll or a jerk. Art is subjective and thus not everyone will like your work. It’s the same reason people might call modern art trash/awful and others might call it amazing. It’s a taste thing, you can’t impress everyone. Now, if the comment provided context to what the person disliked or thinks is “awful”, take a breather, step away, and then come back to it later and think about why they might feel that way. Let’s say someone says your character is an asshole for example. First, you might wanna consider why they felt that way. What about your descriptions came off asshole-ish, then revise to improve and fix the issue. Feedback is just a part of writing, good feedback gives will give you powerful constructive feedback that’s really helpful and that will help you grow as a writer. Not so great ones will hurt, but stay strong. Writing is an art form of practice. Just keep at it, keep working, keep trying, join a supportive writing group, and one day you won’t even be able to hear the hate because you’ll be too busy listening to all the praise :3 | You don't have to post everything You write. Get some friends or family to read it. Do You ever fix your work? | 0 | 39,724 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | giio1zf | gigtbv0 | 1,610,088,876 | 1,610,053,068 | 2 | 1 | You don't have to post everything You write. Get some friends or family to read it. Do You ever fix your work? | Grit is the resolve to keep going in the face of overwhelming odds. Harsh Criticism is overwhelming odds. So when someone criticised you, instead of taking it to heart, you sit down behind your keyboard and you write some more, and you look for ways to improve, and you keep going until people start saying good things about it. In the meantime, you take pride in the fact that you are developing strength of Character | 1 | 35,808 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gigziwe | giio1zf | 1,610,055,868 | 1,610,088,876 | 0 | 2 | If I'm honest, feedback like that confuses me. How can writing be bad? It's like if someone asked you to draw a dot. The only way the dot could be bad is if you didn't draw a dot. Anyone who writes is a good writer | You don't have to post everything You write. Get some friends or family to read it. Do You ever fix your work? | 0 | 33,008 | 2,000 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gii36bp | giio1zf | 1,610,075,791 | 1,610,088,876 | 1 | 2 | Ignore feedback at your peril. Figure out where you can improve - and then do it. All first drafts are terrible, the beauty comes through the editing process. | You don't have to post everything You write. Get some friends or family to read it. Do You ever fix your work? | 0 | 13,085 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | giio1zf | giihdqb | 1,610,088,876 | 1,610,084,039 | 2 | 1 | You don't have to post everything You write. Get some friends or family to read it. Do You ever fix your work? | Find the difference between constructive and destructive criticism. Constructive - advice on how to make it better, well thought out points of things they did not like and possibly some positives stuff mixed in too. destructive - saying its awful, trash, personal insults and telling you to give up. If it's constructive - listen closely and take notes. This is a valuable learning experience. If it's purely destructive - don't give it a second thought, they don't deserve your time/attention. | 1 | 4,837 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | giinhhm | giio1zf | 1,610,088,422 | 1,610,088,876 | 1 | 2 | I honestly believe negative feedback is very essential for the development of a writer's skill. Nonetheless, not all negative reviews are true, some negative reviews are just utter trash from a misinformed critic! | You don't have to post everything You write. Get some friends or family to read it. Do You ever fix your work? | 0 | 454 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | giiur2p | gigknvs | 1,610,094,764 | 1,610,049,152 | 2 | 1 | > would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? I would try to figure out what is wrong with it. Either they're all assholes or there's something fundamental that's off with my writing if everyone I put it in front of trashes it. So I'd go into full research mode about how it ought to be done. | Anyone who tells you straight up that your writing is “awful” without providing any helpful feedback you can disregard as a troll or a jerk. Art is subjective and thus not everyone will like your work. It’s the same reason people might call modern art trash/awful and others might call it amazing. It’s a taste thing, you can’t impress everyone. Now, if the comment provided context to what the person disliked or thinks is “awful”, take a breather, step away, and then come back to it later and think about why they might feel that way. Let’s say someone says your character is an asshole for example. First, you might wanna consider why they felt that way. What about your descriptions came off asshole-ish, then revise to improve and fix the issue. Feedback is just a part of writing, good feedback gives will give you powerful constructive feedback that’s really helpful and that will help you grow as a writer. Not so great ones will hurt, but stay strong. Writing is an art form of practice. Just keep at it, keep working, keep trying, join a supportive writing group, and one day you won’t even be able to hear the hate because you’ll be too busy listening to all the praise :3 | 1 | 45,612 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | giiur2p | gigtbv0 | 1,610,094,764 | 1,610,053,068 | 2 | 1 | > would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? I would try to figure out what is wrong with it. Either they're all assholes or there's something fundamental that's off with my writing if everyone I put it in front of trashes it. So I'd go into full research mode about how it ought to be done. | Grit is the resolve to keep going in the face of overwhelming odds. Harsh Criticism is overwhelming odds. So when someone criticised you, instead of taking it to heart, you sit down behind your keyboard and you write some more, and you look for ways to improve, and you keep going until people start saying good things about it. In the meantime, you take pride in the fact that you are developing strength of Character | 1 | 41,696 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | giiur2p | gigziwe | 1,610,094,764 | 1,610,055,868 | 2 | 0 | > would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? I would try to figure out what is wrong with it. Either they're all assholes or there's something fundamental that's off with my writing if everyone I put it in front of trashes it. So I'd go into full research mode about how it ought to be done. | If I'm honest, feedback like that confuses me. How can writing be bad? It's like if someone asked you to draw a dot. The only way the dot could be bad is if you didn't draw a dot. Anyone who writes is a good writer | 1 | 38,896 | 2,000 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gii36bp | giiur2p | 1,610,075,791 | 1,610,094,764 | 1 | 2 | Ignore feedback at your peril. Figure out where you can improve - and then do it. All first drafts are terrible, the beauty comes through the editing process. | > would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? I would try to figure out what is wrong with it. Either they're all assholes or there's something fundamental that's off with my writing if everyone I put it in front of trashes it. So I'd go into full research mode about how it ought to be done. | 0 | 18,973 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | giihdqb | giiur2p | 1,610,084,039 | 1,610,094,764 | 1 | 2 | Find the difference between constructive and destructive criticism. Constructive - advice on how to make it better, well thought out points of things they did not like and possibly some positives stuff mixed in too. destructive - saying its awful, trash, personal insults and telling you to give up. If it's constructive - listen closely and take notes. This is a valuable learning experience. If it's purely destructive - don't give it a second thought, they don't deserve your time/attention. | > would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? I would try to figure out what is wrong with it. Either they're all assholes or there's something fundamental that's off with my writing if everyone I put it in front of trashes it. So I'd go into full research mode about how it ought to be done. | 0 | 10,725 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | giiur2p | giinhhm | 1,610,094,764 | 1,610,088,422 | 2 | 1 | > would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? I would try to figure out what is wrong with it. Either they're all assholes or there's something fundamental that's off with my writing if everyone I put it in front of trashes it. So I'd go into full research mode about how it ought to be done. | I honestly believe negative feedback is very essential for the development of a writer's skill. Nonetheless, not all negative reviews are true, some negative reviews are just utter trash from a misinformed critic! | 1 | 6,342 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | giisd7k | giiur2p | 1,610,092,552 | 1,610,094,764 | 1 | 2 | in my philosophy, feedback is feedback, of course, if they say it's awful then they should tell me why they think it's awful. if someone just praises or criticizes your work. there should be a reason for their opinion if they just tell you its bad or its good without any real reason. then you can just ignore their input since they have nothing to add. | > would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? I would try to figure out what is wrong with it. Either they're all assholes or there's something fundamental that's off with my writing if everyone I put it in front of trashes it. So I'd go into full research mode about how it ought to be done. | 0 | 2,212 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gigknvs | gijzovp | 1,610,049,152 | 1,610,123,643 | 1 | 2 | Anyone who tells you straight up that your writing is “awful” without providing any helpful feedback you can disregard as a troll or a jerk. Art is subjective and thus not everyone will like your work. It’s the same reason people might call modern art trash/awful and others might call it amazing. It’s a taste thing, you can’t impress everyone. Now, if the comment provided context to what the person disliked or thinks is “awful”, take a breather, step away, and then come back to it later and think about why they might feel that way. Let’s say someone says your character is an asshole for example. First, you might wanna consider why they felt that way. What about your descriptions came off asshole-ish, then revise to improve and fix the issue. Feedback is just a part of writing, good feedback gives will give you powerful constructive feedback that’s really helpful and that will help you grow as a writer. Not so great ones will hurt, but stay strong. Writing is an art form of practice. Just keep at it, keep working, keep trying, join a supportive writing group, and one day you won’t even be able to hear the hate because you’ll be too busy listening to all the praise :3 | I want to tell you that you can be a great writer, it just takes time. I'm horrified to hear how people have given you their feedback. What you need to know is what's working with your stories and what needs work. That's all you need to start making progress at better writing. I suggest convening a group of writers who want feedback and creating rules around the reviews. My writing group rules - We share 1 thing that works and at least 3 things that didn't work for us as readers. Authors - aren't there to defend our story, we're just listening and taking notes. I hope you don't abandon writing, but find a group that's there to help each other be better. | 0 | 74,491 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gijzovp | gigtbv0 | 1,610,123,643 | 1,610,053,068 | 2 | 1 | I want to tell you that you can be a great writer, it just takes time. I'm horrified to hear how people have given you their feedback. What you need to know is what's working with your stories and what needs work. That's all you need to start making progress at better writing. I suggest convening a group of writers who want feedback and creating rules around the reviews. My writing group rules - We share 1 thing that works and at least 3 things that didn't work for us as readers. Authors - aren't there to defend our story, we're just listening and taking notes. I hope you don't abandon writing, but find a group that's there to help each other be better. | Grit is the resolve to keep going in the face of overwhelming odds. Harsh Criticism is overwhelming odds. So when someone criticised you, instead of taking it to heart, you sit down behind your keyboard and you write some more, and you look for ways to improve, and you keep going until people start saying good things about it. In the meantime, you take pride in the fact that you are developing strength of Character | 1 | 70,575 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gigziwe | gijzovp | 1,610,055,868 | 1,610,123,643 | 0 | 2 | If I'm honest, feedback like that confuses me. How can writing be bad? It's like if someone asked you to draw a dot. The only way the dot could be bad is if you didn't draw a dot. Anyone who writes is a good writer | I want to tell you that you can be a great writer, it just takes time. I'm horrified to hear how people have given you their feedback. What you need to know is what's working with your stories and what needs work. That's all you need to start making progress at better writing. I suggest convening a group of writers who want feedback and creating rules around the reviews. My writing group rules - We share 1 thing that works and at least 3 things that didn't work for us as readers. Authors - aren't there to defend our story, we're just listening and taking notes. I hope you don't abandon writing, but find a group that's there to help each other be better. | 0 | 67,775 | 2,000 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gijzovp | gii36bp | 1,610,123,643 | 1,610,075,791 | 2 | 1 | I want to tell you that you can be a great writer, it just takes time. I'm horrified to hear how people have given you their feedback. What you need to know is what's working with your stories and what needs work. That's all you need to start making progress at better writing. I suggest convening a group of writers who want feedback and creating rules around the reviews. My writing group rules - We share 1 thing that works and at least 3 things that didn't work for us as readers. Authors - aren't there to defend our story, we're just listening and taking notes. I hope you don't abandon writing, but find a group that's there to help each other be better. | Ignore feedback at your peril. Figure out where you can improve - and then do it. All first drafts are terrible, the beauty comes through the editing process. | 1 | 47,852 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gijzovp | giihdqb | 1,610,123,643 | 1,610,084,039 | 2 | 1 | I want to tell you that you can be a great writer, it just takes time. I'm horrified to hear how people have given you their feedback. What you need to know is what's working with your stories and what needs work. That's all you need to start making progress at better writing. I suggest convening a group of writers who want feedback and creating rules around the reviews. My writing group rules - We share 1 thing that works and at least 3 things that didn't work for us as readers. Authors - aren't there to defend our story, we're just listening and taking notes. I hope you don't abandon writing, but find a group that's there to help each other be better. | Find the difference between constructive and destructive criticism. Constructive - advice on how to make it better, well thought out points of things they did not like and possibly some positives stuff mixed in too. destructive - saying its awful, trash, personal insults and telling you to give up. If it's constructive - listen closely and take notes. This is a valuable learning experience. If it's purely destructive - don't give it a second thought, they don't deserve your time/attention. | 1 | 39,604 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gijzovp | giinhhm | 1,610,123,643 | 1,610,088,422 | 2 | 1 | I want to tell you that you can be a great writer, it just takes time. I'm horrified to hear how people have given you their feedback. What you need to know is what's working with your stories and what needs work. That's all you need to start making progress at better writing. I suggest convening a group of writers who want feedback and creating rules around the reviews. My writing group rules - We share 1 thing that works and at least 3 things that didn't work for us as readers. Authors - aren't there to defend our story, we're just listening and taking notes. I hope you don't abandon writing, but find a group that's there to help each other be better. | I honestly believe negative feedback is very essential for the development of a writer's skill. Nonetheless, not all negative reviews are true, some negative reviews are just utter trash from a misinformed critic! | 1 | 35,221 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gijzovp | giisd7k | 1,610,123,643 | 1,610,092,552 | 2 | 1 | I want to tell you that you can be a great writer, it just takes time. I'm horrified to hear how people have given you their feedback. What you need to know is what's working with your stories and what needs work. That's all you need to start making progress at better writing. I suggest convening a group of writers who want feedback and creating rules around the reviews. My writing group rules - We share 1 thing that works and at least 3 things that didn't work for us as readers. Authors - aren't there to defend our story, we're just listening and taking notes. I hope you don't abandon writing, but find a group that's there to help each other be better. | in my philosophy, feedback is feedback, of course, if they say it's awful then they should tell me why they think it's awful. if someone just praises or criticizes your work. there should be a reason for their opinion if they just tell you its bad or its good without any real reason. then you can just ignore their input since they have nothing to add. | 1 | 31,091 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | giixbjm | gijzovp | 1,610,097,261 | 1,610,123,643 | 1 | 2 | If you listened to a child who just started violin lessons you wouldn't expect them to be good, but adequate to their skill level. If you listened to a kid that started playing again after quitting for a while you still wouldn't compare them to a professional musicist. People, and even some writers, tend to judge storytelling and prose by comparing them to the books and movies they like, which is a way higher standard than some other activities, sports and arts get. Also people don't understand how vulnerable artists feel about their work, or if they are creative themselves, they know and are often tempted to push you down for any reason, like to make themselves feel better, or so they don't have to actually understand and try to appreciate what you were aiming to do. For all that matters, I still cringe at some stuff I wrote in highschool, but I still respect it, because now that I improved I can see the diamond that was in that rough, and even now, when someone else or I myself calls something I wrote "awful" (usually the latter), I try to remember that I'm always close to improving further to a new and better kind of "awful". | I want to tell you that you can be a great writer, it just takes time. I'm horrified to hear how people have given you their feedback. What you need to know is what's working with your stories and what needs work. That's all you need to start making progress at better writing. I suggest convening a group of writers who want feedback and creating rules around the reviews. My writing group rules - We share 1 thing that works and at least 3 things that didn't work for us as readers. Authors - aren't there to defend our story, we're just listening and taking notes. I hope you don't abandon writing, but find a group that's there to help each other be better. | 0 | 26,382 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gij4rqn | gijzovp | 1,610,104,688 | 1,610,123,643 | 1 | 2 | I was around twelve when I started writing novels. And it wasn't until i was around 14 that I grew comfortable enough to share my work. It was the first draft of latest work. I shared it with my classmate who said that it was the worst story he had ever read. Do you know what I did? I deleted that novel and I started writing again. This time a novel that actually got published. I think what most people don't realized that even the worst pieces of fiction that they pay to consume are extremely polished products. Multiple drafts were written before these books were publishable or screenplays adaptable. And by the time a writer gets to be published, they have already gained the experience of working on multiple projects before. Only then are the stories not terrible. What most people don't realize is that they are only experiencing the pristine looking tip of a mountain made of garbage when they experience an author's work. So when you give them a piece of the lower end of your mountain of work, they are going to think it garbage. Stick with it, you are going to get better. Stick with it and some day perhaps people will hold their breath to read your next bit of content that you put out. Don't let the negative feedback discourage you. | I want to tell you that you can be a great writer, it just takes time. I'm horrified to hear how people have given you their feedback. What you need to know is what's working with your stories and what needs work. That's all you need to start making progress at better writing. I suggest convening a group of writers who want feedback and creating rules around the reviews. My writing group rules - We share 1 thing that works and at least 3 things that didn't work for us as readers. Authors - aren't there to defend our story, we're just listening and taking notes. I hope you don't abandon writing, but find a group that's there to help each other be better. | 0 | 18,955 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gijzovp | gij7mzn | 1,610,123,643 | 1,610,107,380 | 2 | 1 | I want to tell you that you can be a great writer, it just takes time. I'm horrified to hear how people have given you their feedback. What you need to know is what's working with your stories and what needs work. That's all you need to start making progress at better writing. I suggest convening a group of writers who want feedback and creating rules around the reviews. My writing group rules - We share 1 thing that works and at least 3 things that didn't work for us as readers. Authors - aren't there to defend our story, we're just listening and taking notes. I hope you don't abandon writing, but find a group that's there to help each other be better. | Keep writing, but work on improving. Join a critique group or, as others have said, find someone who can tell you what needs improvement, what didn't work for them, and what pulled them from the story. Also, gain more knowledge on story structure and writing techniques. I just read a great book called *The Nutshell Technique* by Jill Chamberlain. She discusses story structure and the basic elements that must work together to form a resonating story. You can also take online courses in creative writing and screenwriting where the instructor and your classmates can help you hone your craft amd point out what's working and what isn't. Last piece of advice: READ. Read in your genre. Watch movies with a critical eye, trying to pick up on dialogue and plot points. If you're focused on screenwriting, read screenplays. As Steven King said (also add *On Writing* to your TBR list), "If you don't have the time to read, you don't have the time, or the tools, to write." Don't give up. | 1 | 16,263 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gigknvs | gik53ee | 1,610,049,152 | 1,610,126,092 | 1 | 2 | Anyone who tells you straight up that your writing is “awful” without providing any helpful feedback you can disregard as a troll or a jerk. Art is subjective and thus not everyone will like your work. It’s the same reason people might call modern art trash/awful and others might call it amazing. It’s a taste thing, you can’t impress everyone. Now, if the comment provided context to what the person disliked or thinks is “awful”, take a breather, step away, and then come back to it later and think about why they might feel that way. Let’s say someone says your character is an asshole for example. First, you might wanna consider why they felt that way. What about your descriptions came off asshole-ish, then revise to improve and fix the issue. Feedback is just a part of writing, good feedback gives will give you powerful constructive feedback that’s really helpful and that will help you grow as a writer. Not so great ones will hurt, but stay strong. Writing is an art form of practice. Just keep at it, keep working, keep trying, join a supportive writing group, and one day you won’t even be able to hear the hate because you’ll be too busy listening to all the praise :3 | Honestly, it’s really hard. I was in a workshop once and had someone literally berating me about how much they hated my ending. A few other people began to gather in and, in that room, I wasn’t allowed to respond. I sat and took it until I was almost crying and the teacher finally realized what was happening and put a stop to it. I walked out of that workshop thinking I wanted to quit writing. I didn’t. Now, I have a finished novel that I’m shopping to agents and a short story that has been published in a pretty respectable journal. In a way, that experience numbed me. If someone has something negative to say, I look to see if there’s anything constructive in it that I can grow from, but most of the time if they’re like “this sucks” I’ll ignore it. Sure, it stings. But I move on. If you love writing, keep writing. Don’t let that bad experience tarnish something you love. If you love what you’re writing, keep writing it. You’re writing it for you. | 0 | 76,940 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gik53ee | gigtbv0 | 1,610,126,092 | 1,610,053,068 | 2 | 1 | Honestly, it’s really hard. I was in a workshop once and had someone literally berating me about how much they hated my ending. A few other people began to gather in and, in that room, I wasn’t allowed to respond. I sat and took it until I was almost crying and the teacher finally realized what was happening and put a stop to it. I walked out of that workshop thinking I wanted to quit writing. I didn’t. Now, I have a finished novel that I’m shopping to agents and a short story that has been published in a pretty respectable journal. In a way, that experience numbed me. If someone has something negative to say, I look to see if there’s anything constructive in it that I can grow from, but most of the time if they’re like “this sucks” I’ll ignore it. Sure, it stings. But I move on. If you love writing, keep writing. Don’t let that bad experience tarnish something you love. If you love what you’re writing, keep writing it. You’re writing it for you. | Grit is the resolve to keep going in the face of overwhelming odds. Harsh Criticism is overwhelming odds. So when someone criticised you, instead of taking it to heart, you sit down behind your keyboard and you write some more, and you look for ways to improve, and you keep going until people start saying good things about it. In the meantime, you take pride in the fact that you are developing strength of Character | 1 | 73,024 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gik53ee | gigziwe | 1,610,126,092 | 1,610,055,868 | 2 | 0 | Honestly, it’s really hard. I was in a workshop once and had someone literally berating me about how much they hated my ending. A few other people began to gather in and, in that room, I wasn’t allowed to respond. I sat and took it until I was almost crying and the teacher finally realized what was happening and put a stop to it. I walked out of that workshop thinking I wanted to quit writing. I didn’t. Now, I have a finished novel that I’m shopping to agents and a short story that has been published in a pretty respectable journal. In a way, that experience numbed me. If someone has something negative to say, I look to see if there’s anything constructive in it that I can grow from, but most of the time if they’re like “this sucks” I’ll ignore it. Sure, it stings. But I move on. If you love writing, keep writing. Don’t let that bad experience tarnish something you love. If you love what you’re writing, keep writing it. You’re writing it for you. | If I'm honest, feedback like that confuses me. How can writing be bad? It's like if someone asked you to draw a dot. The only way the dot could be bad is if you didn't draw a dot. Anyone who writes is a good writer | 1 | 70,224 | 2,000 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gik53ee | gii36bp | 1,610,126,092 | 1,610,075,791 | 2 | 1 | Honestly, it’s really hard. I was in a workshop once and had someone literally berating me about how much they hated my ending. A few other people began to gather in and, in that room, I wasn’t allowed to respond. I sat and took it until I was almost crying and the teacher finally realized what was happening and put a stop to it. I walked out of that workshop thinking I wanted to quit writing. I didn’t. Now, I have a finished novel that I’m shopping to agents and a short story that has been published in a pretty respectable journal. In a way, that experience numbed me. If someone has something negative to say, I look to see if there’s anything constructive in it that I can grow from, but most of the time if they’re like “this sucks” I’ll ignore it. Sure, it stings. But I move on. If you love writing, keep writing. Don’t let that bad experience tarnish something you love. If you love what you’re writing, keep writing it. You’re writing it for you. | Ignore feedback at your peril. Figure out where you can improve - and then do it. All first drafts are terrible, the beauty comes through the editing process. | 1 | 50,301 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gik53ee | giihdqb | 1,610,126,092 | 1,610,084,039 | 2 | 1 | Honestly, it’s really hard. I was in a workshop once and had someone literally berating me about how much they hated my ending. A few other people began to gather in and, in that room, I wasn’t allowed to respond. I sat and took it until I was almost crying and the teacher finally realized what was happening and put a stop to it. I walked out of that workshop thinking I wanted to quit writing. I didn’t. Now, I have a finished novel that I’m shopping to agents and a short story that has been published in a pretty respectable journal. In a way, that experience numbed me. If someone has something negative to say, I look to see if there’s anything constructive in it that I can grow from, but most of the time if they’re like “this sucks” I’ll ignore it. Sure, it stings. But I move on. If you love writing, keep writing. Don’t let that bad experience tarnish something you love. If you love what you’re writing, keep writing it. You’re writing it for you. | Find the difference between constructive and destructive criticism. Constructive - advice on how to make it better, well thought out points of things they did not like and possibly some positives stuff mixed in too. destructive - saying its awful, trash, personal insults and telling you to give up. If it's constructive - listen closely and take notes. This is a valuable learning experience. If it's purely destructive - don't give it a second thought, they don't deserve your time/attention. | 1 | 42,053 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | giinhhm | gik53ee | 1,610,088,422 | 1,610,126,092 | 1 | 2 | I honestly believe negative feedback is very essential for the development of a writer's skill. Nonetheless, not all negative reviews are true, some negative reviews are just utter trash from a misinformed critic! | Honestly, it’s really hard. I was in a workshop once and had someone literally berating me about how much they hated my ending. A few other people began to gather in and, in that room, I wasn’t allowed to respond. I sat and took it until I was almost crying and the teacher finally realized what was happening and put a stop to it. I walked out of that workshop thinking I wanted to quit writing. I didn’t. Now, I have a finished novel that I’m shopping to agents and a short story that has been published in a pretty respectable journal. In a way, that experience numbed me. If someone has something negative to say, I look to see if there’s anything constructive in it that I can grow from, but most of the time if they’re like “this sucks” I’ll ignore it. Sure, it stings. But I move on. If you love writing, keep writing. Don’t let that bad experience tarnish something you love. If you love what you’re writing, keep writing it. You’re writing it for you. | 0 | 37,670 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gik53ee | giisd7k | 1,610,126,092 | 1,610,092,552 | 2 | 1 | Honestly, it’s really hard. I was in a workshop once and had someone literally berating me about how much they hated my ending. A few other people began to gather in and, in that room, I wasn’t allowed to respond. I sat and took it until I was almost crying and the teacher finally realized what was happening and put a stop to it. I walked out of that workshop thinking I wanted to quit writing. I didn’t. Now, I have a finished novel that I’m shopping to agents and a short story that has been published in a pretty respectable journal. In a way, that experience numbed me. If someone has something negative to say, I look to see if there’s anything constructive in it that I can grow from, but most of the time if they’re like “this sucks” I’ll ignore it. Sure, it stings. But I move on. If you love writing, keep writing. Don’t let that bad experience tarnish something you love. If you love what you’re writing, keep writing it. You’re writing it for you. | in my philosophy, feedback is feedback, of course, if they say it's awful then they should tell me why they think it's awful. if someone just praises or criticizes your work. there should be a reason for their opinion if they just tell you its bad or its good without any real reason. then you can just ignore their input since they have nothing to add. | 1 | 33,540 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | giixbjm | gik53ee | 1,610,097,261 | 1,610,126,092 | 1 | 2 | If you listened to a child who just started violin lessons you wouldn't expect them to be good, but adequate to their skill level. If you listened to a kid that started playing again after quitting for a while you still wouldn't compare them to a professional musicist. People, and even some writers, tend to judge storytelling and prose by comparing them to the books and movies they like, which is a way higher standard than some other activities, sports and arts get. Also people don't understand how vulnerable artists feel about their work, or if they are creative themselves, they know and are often tempted to push you down for any reason, like to make themselves feel better, or so they don't have to actually understand and try to appreciate what you were aiming to do. For all that matters, I still cringe at some stuff I wrote in highschool, but I still respect it, because now that I improved I can see the diamond that was in that rough, and even now, when someone else or I myself calls something I wrote "awful" (usually the latter), I try to remember that I'm always close to improving further to a new and better kind of "awful". | Honestly, it’s really hard. I was in a workshop once and had someone literally berating me about how much they hated my ending. A few other people began to gather in and, in that room, I wasn’t allowed to respond. I sat and took it until I was almost crying and the teacher finally realized what was happening and put a stop to it. I walked out of that workshop thinking I wanted to quit writing. I didn’t. Now, I have a finished novel that I’m shopping to agents and a short story that has been published in a pretty respectable journal. In a way, that experience numbed me. If someone has something negative to say, I look to see if there’s anything constructive in it that I can grow from, but most of the time if they’re like “this sucks” I’ll ignore it. Sure, it stings. But I move on. If you love writing, keep writing. Don’t let that bad experience tarnish something you love. If you love what you’re writing, keep writing it. You’re writing it for you. | 0 | 28,831 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gik53ee | gij4rqn | 1,610,126,092 | 1,610,104,688 | 2 | 1 | Honestly, it’s really hard. I was in a workshop once and had someone literally berating me about how much they hated my ending. A few other people began to gather in and, in that room, I wasn’t allowed to respond. I sat and took it until I was almost crying and the teacher finally realized what was happening and put a stop to it. I walked out of that workshop thinking I wanted to quit writing. I didn’t. Now, I have a finished novel that I’m shopping to agents and a short story that has been published in a pretty respectable journal. In a way, that experience numbed me. If someone has something negative to say, I look to see if there’s anything constructive in it that I can grow from, but most of the time if they’re like “this sucks” I’ll ignore it. Sure, it stings. But I move on. If you love writing, keep writing. Don’t let that bad experience tarnish something you love. If you love what you’re writing, keep writing it. You’re writing it for you. | I was around twelve when I started writing novels. And it wasn't until i was around 14 that I grew comfortable enough to share my work. It was the first draft of latest work. I shared it with my classmate who said that it was the worst story he had ever read. Do you know what I did? I deleted that novel and I started writing again. This time a novel that actually got published. I think what most people don't realized that even the worst pieces of fiction that they pay to consume are extremely polished products. Multiple drafts were written before these books were publishable or screenplays adaptable. And by the time a writer gets to be published, they have already gained the experience of working on multiple projects before. Only then are the stories not terrible. What most people don't realize is that they are only experiencing the pristine looking tip of a mountain made of garbage when they experience an author's work. So when you give them a piece of the lower end of your mountain of work, they are going to think it garbage. Stick with it, you are going to get better. Stick with it and some day perhaps people will hold their breath to read your next bit of content that you put out. Don't let the negative feedback discourage you. | 1 | 21,404 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gij7mzn | gik53ee | 1,610,107,380 | 1,610,126,092 | 1 | 2 | Keep writing, but work on improving. Join a critique group or, as others have said, find someone who can tell you what needs improvement, what didn't work for them, and what pulled them from the story. Also, gain more knowledge on story structure and writing techniques. I just read a great book called *The Nutshell Technique* by Jill Chamberlain. She discusses story structure and the basic elements that must work together to form a resonating story. You can also take online courses in creative writing and screenwriting where the instructor and your classmates can help you hone your craft amd point out what's working and what isn't. Last piece of advice: READ. Read in your genre. Watch movies with a critical eye, trying to pick up on dialogue and plot points. If you're focused on screenwriting, read screenplays. As Steven King said (also add *On Writing* to your TBR list), "If you don't have the time to read, you don't have the time, or the tools, to write." Don't give up. | Honestly, it’s really hard. I was in a workshop once and had someone literally berating me about how much they hated my ending. A few other people began to gather in and, in that room, I wasn’t allowed to respond. I sat and took it until I was almost crying and the teacher finally realized what was happening and put a stop to it. I walked out of that workshop thinking I wanted to quit writing. I didn’t. Now, I have a finished novel that I’m shopping to agents and a short story that has been published in a pretty respectable journal. In a way, that experience numbed me. If someone has something negative to say, I look to see if there’s anything constructive in it that I can grow from, but most of the time if they’re like “this sucks” I’ll ignore it. Sure, it stings. But I move on. If you love writing, keep writing. Don’t let that bad experience tarnish something you love. If you love what you’re writing, keep writing it. You’re writing it for you. | 0 | 18,712 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gir9k7m | gigknvs | 1,610,280,685 | 1,610,049,152 | 2 | 1 | You’ve had some great answers. Lots who say “read and write more”, which is absolutely true. That said, I’m going to add in some specifics to help you work out what might need tweaking and editing in your story. Disclaimer: I’m not sure how much writing technique or study you’ve done. It’s not a prerequisite to great writing, but in case it helps (or jogs your memory) I thought I’d go back to basics. You may know some or all of this already. Skip, if you do. So, you’ve got 4 ‘levels’ of thinking when you’re writing. 1. Why - this is the big picture. The premise. The stuff that lives beneath the words. Is the story idea not intriguing enough? Does it lack nuance and opportunity for depth? Are your world and characters fascinating or shallow? Do you know what you’re trying to say (the message) and what you want the reader to feel over this story? And personally - what’s your reason/inspiration for writing the piece? Why do you need to get it out? Why would someone want to read it? Who are you writing for? 2. What - The content. What’s actually going on in this scene? Have you started right where there’s tension and ended with an unanswered question (to keep the reader engaged). Does it make sense for this to happen at this point in the story? Are your characters believable? Are their struggles and motivation relatable or real? Have you followed some version of the Hero’s Journey (or other story arc format that produces timeless stories). Is there a crescendo, climax and denouement with an emotional payoff? 3. How - the technique and word choices. Strong verbs, varied sentence length, engaging (and believable) dialogue, concise and compelling use of imagery, literary devices (alliteration, metaphor etc), using original detail instead of cliches. etc. Have you introduced backstory in ways that aren’t on the nose? 4. What if - Editing. Have you answered all the questions the reader has? Tied up all the subplots? Kept character consistency throughout the book? Have you ‘killed your darlings’ by removing anything that isn’t interesting, necessary or plot-thickening. Do you have any ‘Deus Ex Machina’ moments or other eye-rolling devices that - if changed - might produce a more interesting plot? Read your words as if you’re a skeptical reader who wants to like the story but needs to be drawn in. Have you accomplished that as elegantly as you can? While not exhaustive, if you’re struggling to figure out why someone says your writing sucks, this will help you pinpoint. In practice? You’re often having to think on multiple levels at once. So when your writing "sucks", it’s hard to say if it’s just ONE thing (usually it’s not.) But for context, I thought I’d give you a kind of checklist of things to think about. Readers don’t usually think like this (because they’re drawn into the story), but it’s hard to write something enjoyable - or even good - without thinking through some or all of these. Also, remember that writing great stories usually doesn’t happen overnight. The ‘shitty first draft’ is called such because 90% of the words get trashed as you iron out kinks and edit. If you’ve got an editor you trust, then more power to you. Be prepared for the long haul and for what you start with, to be completely dismantled and reconstructed into something better. It’ll never be perfect - nothing ever is - but it might take time. And lots of edits. (And coffeee.) If it makes you feel any better, ALL of us writers go through the pain of this. Many, many times. We're in this with you! :) | Anyone who tells you straight up that your writing is “awful” without providing any helpful feedback you can disregard as a troll or a jerk. Art is subjective and thus not everyone will like your work. It’s the same reason people might call modern art trash/awful and others might call it amazing. It’s a taste thing, you can’t impress everyone. Now, if the comment provided context to what the person disliked or thinks is “awful”, take a breather, step away, and then come back to it later and think about why they might feel that way. Let’s say someone says your character is an asshole for example. First, you might wanna consider why they felt that way. What about your descriptions came off asshole-ish, then revise to improve and fix the issue. Feedback is just a part of writing, good feedback gives will give you powerful constructive feedback that’s really helpful and that will help you grow as a writer. Not so great ones will hurt, but stay strong. Writing is an art form of practice. Just keep at it, keep working, keep trying, join a supportive writing group, and one day you won’t even be able to hear the hate because you’ll be too busy listening to all the praise :3 | 1 | 231,533 | 2 | ||
kskfit | writing_train | 0.97 | How do you guys deal with negative feedback? When i was 14- I started writing and posting short stories. People told me they were terrible and it's "obvious"I don't have any talent. So, I quit. I tried screenwriting but I got the same response. A kid at school even threw my work in the garbage and said that's where it belongs. I completely quit writing at that point. Years later after high school, I finally manged to gain the courage to post a short story. I just got my first comment saying it's awful. I know people get negative feedback all the time, and for the most part I'm dealing with it better but if you had a novel/ short story you were writing and people told you that it's terrible/poorly written/ stupid idea, would you keep working on it or abandon it completely? | gigtbv0 | gir9k7m | 1,610,053,068 | 1,610,280,685 | 1 | 2 | Grit is the resolve to keep going in the face of overwhelming odds. Harsh Criticism is overwhelming odds. So when someone criticised you, instead of taking it to heart, you sit down behind your keyboard and you write some more, and you look for ways to improve, and you keep going until people start saying good things about it. In the meantime, you take pride in the fact that you are developing strength of Character | You’ve had some great answers. Lots who say “read and write more”, which is absolutely true. That said, I’m going to add in some specifics to help you work out what might need tweaking and editing in your story. Disclaimer: I’m not sure how much writing technique or study you’ve done. It’s not a prerequisite to great writing, but in case it helps (or jogs your memory) I thought I’d go back to basics. You may know some or all of this already. Skip, if you do. So, you’ve got 4 ‘levels’ of thinking when you’re writing. 1. Why - this is the big picture. The premise. The stuff that lives beneath the words. Is the story idea not intriguing enough? Does it lack nuance and opportunity for depth? Are your world and characters fascinating or shallow? Do you know what you’re trying to say (the message) and what you want the reader to feel over this story? And personally - what’s your reason/inspiration for writing the piece? Why do you need to get it out? Why would someone want to read it? Who are you writing for? 2. What - The content. What’s actually going on in this scene? Have you started right where there’s tension and ended with an unanswered question (to keep the reader engaged). Does it make sense for this to happen at this point in the story? Are your characters believable? Are their struggles and motivation relatable or real? Have you followed some version of the Hero’s Journey (or other story arc format that produces timeless stories). Is there a crescendo, climax and denouement with an emotional payoff? 3. How - the technique and word choices. Strong verbs, varied sentence length, engaging (and believable) dialogue, concise and compelling use of imagery, literary devices (alliteration, metaphor etc), using original detail instead of cliches. etc. Have you introduced backstory in ways that aren’t on the nose? 4. What if - Editing. Have you answered all the questions the reader has? Tied up all the subplots? Kept character consistency throughout the book? Have you ‘killed your darlings’ by removing anything that isn’t interesting, necessary or plot-thickening. Do you have any ‘Deus Ex Machina’ moments or other eye-rolling devices that - if changed - might produce a more interesting plot? Read your words as if you’re a skeptical reader who wants to like the story but needs to be drawn in. Have you accomplished that as elegantly as you can? While not exhaustive, if you’re struggling to figure out why someone says your writing sucks, this will help you pinpoint. In practice? You’re often having to think on multiple levels at once. So when your writing "sucks", it’s hard to say if it’s just ONE thing (usually it’s not.) But for context, I thought I’d give you a kind of checklist of things to think about. Readers don’t usually think like this (because they’re drawn into the story), but it’s hard to write something enjoyable - or even good - without thinking through some or all of these. Also, remember that writing great stories usually doesn’t happen overnight. The ‘shitty first draft’ is called such because 90% of the words get trashed as you iron out kinks and edit. If you’ve got an editor you trust, then more power to you. Be prepared for the long haul and for what you start with, to be completely dismantled and reconstructed into something better. It’ll never be perfect - nothing ever is - but it might take time. And lots of edits. (And coffeee.) If it makes you feel any better, ALL of us writers go through the pain of this. Many, many times. We're in this with you! :) | 0 | 227,617 | 2 |
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