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Is it a bad idea to ask my teacher to help edit? In brief: I've written a book, I'm a teen, I'm looking to self publish, I'm not spending money on editors, I'd like to ask my english teacher to help editting and to get feedback. Are there and flaws or problems with this idea? Should j do it? Any Qs please ask.
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ixl62ai
| 1,669,247,515 | 1,669,273,380 | 3 | 5 |
First edit it yourself, before showing it to anybody. You have, right? Right??
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Yes, it is a bad idea to ask other people to work for free.
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z2xhid
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Is it a bad idea to ask my teacher to help edit? In brief: I've written a book, I'm a teen, I'm looking to self publish, I'm not spending money on editors, I'd like to ask my english teacher to help editting and to get feedback. Are there and flaws or problems with this idea? Should j do it? Any Qs please ask.
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ixirzmy
| 1,669,273,380 | 1,669,231,283 | 5 | 3 |
Yes, it is a bad idea to ask other people to work for free.
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It’s not a bad idea to ask a teacher for help - the worst they can do is decline. (Other posters made good points, though: prepare for them to decline and also make sure you word it in a way where it comes across that you really value their time and feedback and take whatever you can get.) But … I’d suggest this first: make sure you already did several rounds of edits yourself. Make this baby shine. Have some beta readers read and comment and work in that feedback. Have you let it sit for a bit and then come back? If you want to persuade a teacher to help with editing, it will help if they see potential and see that you’ve done lots of work yourself already. From your post it’s unclear if this is a first draft or something you’ve worked on extensively? Which is it? Anyways. Kudos for writing and finishing a manuscript! That’s really awesome.
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Is it a bad idea to ask my teacher to help edit? In brief: I've written a book, I'm a teen, I'm looking to self publish, I'm not spending money on editors, I'd like to ask my english teacher to help editting and to get feedback. Are there and flaws or problems with this idea? Should j do it? Any Qs please ask.
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ixl62ai
| 1,669,236,014 | 1,669,273,380 | 2 | 5 |
If you do this, which you shouldn't for the reasons other people listed, I really hope your book is squeaky clean/pg content. Otherwise you're just going to risk getting everyone involved in trouble. Asking your teacher to edit for you is just unprofessional and probably proves you need more time before you're ready to publish.
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Yes, it is a bad idea to ask other people to work for free.
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Is it a bad idea to ask my teacher to help edit? In brief: I've written a book, I'm a teen, I'm looking to self publish, I'm not spending money on editors, I'd like to ask my english teacher to help editting and to get feedback. Are there and flaws or problems with this idea? Should j do it? Any Qs please ask.
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ixj3w61
| 1,669,260,957 | 1,669,236,014 | 3 | 2 |
If you’re publishing something that will cost no money to acquire, handle the editing how ever you would like. However, if you expect people to pay for your published work, you should be taking it more seriously. Why do you want to ask somebody to edit it for free - do you seriously believe they’ll do a sufficient job? If you lack money, then maybe you should consider that this may do you more harm than good.
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If you do this, which you shouldn't for the reasons other people listed, I really hope your book is squeaky clean/pg content. Otherwise you're just going to risk getting everyone involved in trouble. Asking your teacher to edit for you is just unprofessional and probably proves you need more time before you're ready to publish.
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Is it a bad idea to ask my teacher to help edit? In brief: I've written a book, I'm a teen, I'm looking to self publish, I'm not spending money on editors, I'd like to ask my english teacher to help editting and to get feedback. Are there and flaws or problems with this idea? Should j do it? Any Qs please ask.
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ixkviym
| 1,669,236,014 | 1,669,266,372 | 2 | 3 |
If you do this, which you shouldn't for the reasons other people listed, I really hope your book is squeaky clean/pg content. Otherwise you're just going to risk getting everyone involved in trouble. Asking your teacher to edit for you is just unprofessional and probably proves you need more time before you're ready to publish.
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Lmfao what a terrible idea
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z2xhid
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Is it a bad idea to ask my teacher to help edit? In brief: I've written a book, I'm a teen, I'm looking to self publish, I'm not spending money on editors, I'd like to ask my english teacher to help editting and to get feedback. Are there and flaws or problems with this idea? Should j do it? Any Qs please ask.
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ixj3w61
| 1,669,272,949 | 1,669,236,014 | 3 | 2 |
Homie, teachers don’t get paid enough as it is, on that basis I wouldn’t ask. However, I’m a sucker and want to encourage everyone to write. Send it to me and I’ll do it.
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If you do this, which you shouldn't for the reasons other people listed, I really hope your book is squeaky clean/pg content. Otherwise you're just going to risk getting everyone involved in trouble. Asking your teacher to edit for you is just unprofessional and probably proves you need more time before you're ready to publish.
| 1 | 36,935 | 1.5 | ||
z2xhid
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writing_train
| 0.79 |
Is it a bad idea to ask my teacher to help edit? In brief: I've written a book, I'm a teen, I'm looking to self publish, I'm not spending money on editors, I'd like to ask my english teacher to help editting and to get feedback. Are there and flaws or problems with this idea? Should j do it? Any Qs please ask.
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ixj3w61
| 1,669,244,708 | 1,669,236,014 | 3 | 2 |
Just because your teacher is an English teacher does not mean they will be any good at content editing. To ask them to edit your stuff without knowing they are up to the task may be a mistake. And if they are good at it and you ask them to do it for free, that's kind of rude of you. If you can't afford an editor, I would suggest taking a look at ProWritingAid. It'll cost you $20/month, you can cancel it once it's finished. There's even a free demo. To be clear, it's not a replacement for an actual editor, but it's the next best thing if you can't afford one. Good luck!
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If you do this, which you shouldn't for the reasons other people listed, I really hope your book is squeaky clean/pg content. Otherwise you're just going to risk getting everyone involved in trouble. Asking your teacher to edit for you is just unprofessional and probably proves you need more time before you're ready to publish.
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z2xhid
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writing_train
| 0.79 |
Is it a bad idea to ask my teacher to help edit? In brief: I've written a book, I'm a teen, I'm looking to self publish, I'm not spending money on editors, I'd like to ask my english teacher to help editting and to get feedback. Are there and flaws or problems with this idea? Should j do it? Any Qs please ask.
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ixjukz1
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ixj3w61
| 1,669,247,515 | 1,669,236,014 | 3 | 2 |
First edit it yourself, before showing it to anybody. You have, right? Right??
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If you do this, which you shouldn't for the reasons other people listed, I really hope your book is squeaky clean/pg content. Otherwise you're just going to risk getting everyone involved in trouble. Asking your teacher to edit for you is just unprofessional and probably proves you need more time before you're ready to publish.
| 1 | 11,501 | 1.5 | ||
z2xhid
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writing_train
| 0.79 |
Is it a bad idea to ask my teacher to help edit? In brief: I've written a book, I'm a teen, I'm looking to self publish, I'm not spending money on editors, I'd like to ask my english teacher to help editting and to get feedback. Are there and flaws or problems with this idea? Should j do it? Any Qs please ask.
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ixj3w61
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ixlj55m
| 1,669,236,014 | 1,669,284,038 | 2 | 3 |
If you do this, which you shouldn't for the reasons other people listed, I really hope your book is squeaky clean/pg content. Otherwise you're just going to risk getting everyone involved in trouble. Asking your teacher to edit for you is just unprofessional and probably proves you need more time before you're ready to publish.
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I honestly don't know a teacher who would line edit something like that for free. 1. It's like asking a mechanic to come fix your car for free when they get off work from the day job. They don't want to do it, and that's fair. 2. Respect the person. They have a life. Asking someone to work for free is just rude. 3. Some teachers might give you some feedback on the first few pages, and I think it would be okay to ask for that! But don't expect editing. 4. As stated in other comments, if you're going to self-publish, you will eventually have to pay an editor or two. 5. Some writer's groups have critique partners, or people who will swap stories with you and you give each other feedback. I think for now, this might be your best bet to at least get feedback on your story! Best of luck!
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z2xhid
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| 0.79 |
Is it a bad idea to ask my teacher to help edit? In brief: I've written a book, I'm a teen, I'm looking to self publish, I'm not spending money on editors, I'd like to ask my english teacher to help editting and to get feedback. Are there and flaws or problems with this idea? Should j do it? Any Qs please ask.
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ixllftj
| 1,669,236,014 | 1,669,286,124 | 2 | 3 |
If you do this, which you shouldn't for the reasons other people listed, I really hope your book is squeaky clean/pg content. Otherwise you're just going to risk getting everyone involved in trouble. Asking your teacher to edit for you is just unprofessional and probably proves you need more time before you're ready to publish.
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As someone who works in a school, definitely not. Teachers do not have enough time to edit a book for free. Saying that, no one should edit a book for free. Either pay someone or do it yourself.
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Is it a bad idea to switch POVs like this? The story I’m writing right now has two protagonists. I’ve been switching between their POVs (third person limited) chapter by chapter—always making sure that the switches are separated by chapters—but in some of the later chapters, I want to switch to third person omniscient. Will that throw off my readers?
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j00kt7o
| 1,670,905,457 | 1,670,907,903 | 2 | 3 |
Be consistent and don't worry. Your job is to tell a story, after the first draft, we'll talk.
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What I have always done with multiple POVs encountering the same scene or set of circumstances is to use character A’s POV to guide the scene to roughly halfway. Something major happens, that drops off and picks up with character B; their thought process in the first, truncated half (no need to replay every bit of conversation, but you can certainly reveal some of their thoughts during this short recap), and finishes the scene’s narrative for both characters. Think of it like a Bond villain waxing lyrical about his motivations while Bond himself and another character are tied up. Scene intro, some dialogue, some action leading to a point where he, say, figures out how to get his clasp loose. Now we cut to character B, who has been tied up as well, listening to the Bond villain. You don’t need to replay the dialogue, but can reveal some of Character B’s perception, backed up by snippets of the already-revealed speech. Then, Character B notices Bond got his clasp loose, and the rest of the escape takes place from his or her viewpoint. It doesn’t work for everyone, but seems slightly less jarring than jumping from third-person limited into omniscient, especially if the latter hasn’t been used in the story until that point. Some authors, like King, can do that, but the inconsistency doesn’t often pay off for the rest of us mortal wordsmiths.
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Is it a bad idea to switch POVs like this? The story I’m writing right now has two protagonists. I’ve been switching between their POVs (third person limited) chapter by chapter—always making sure that the switches are separated by chapters—but in some of the later chapters, I want to switch to third person omniscient. Will that throw off my readers?
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izz6qra
| 1,670,907,903 | 1,670,884,895 | 3 | 1 |
What I have always done with multiple POVs encountering the same scene or set of circumstances is to use character A’s POV to guide the scene to roughly halfway. Something major happens, that drops off and picks up with character B; their thought process in the first, truncated half (no need to replay every bit of conversation, but you can certainly reveal some of their thoughts during this short recap), and finishes the scene’s narrative for both characters. Think of it like a Bond villain waxing lyrical about his motivations while Bond himself and another character are tied up. Scene intro, some dialogue, some action leading to a point where he, say, figures out how to get his clasp loose. Now we cut to character B, who has been tied up as well, listening to the Bond villain. You don’t need to replay the dialogue, but can reveal some of Character B’s perception, backed up by snippets of the already-revealed speech. Then, Character B notices Bond got his clasp loose, and the rest of the escape takes place from his or her viewpoint. It doesn’t work for everyone, but seems slightly less jarring than jumping from third-person limited into omniscient, especially if the latter hasn’t been used in the story until that point. Some authors, like King, can do that, but the inconsistency doesn’t often pay off for the rest of us mortal wordsmiths.
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Instead of going full omniscient, you can just cut to the other POV with a separator or a line break. I’d suggest reading Joe Abercrombie novels to see how it can be done.
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zk7n98
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Is it a bad idea to switch POVs like this? The story I’m writing right now has two protagonists. I’ve been switching between their POVs (third person limited) chapter by chapter—always making sure that the switches are separated by chapters—but in some of the later chapters, I want to switch to third person omniscient. Will that throw off my readers?
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izz6qra
| 1,670,905,457 | 1,670,884,895 | 2 | 1 |
Be consistent and don't worry. Your job is to tell a story, after the first draft, we'll talk.
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Instead of going full omniscient, you can just cut to the other POV with a separator or a line break. I’d suggest reading Joe Abercrombie novels to see how it can be done.
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Is it a bad idea to switch POVs like this? The story I’m writing right now has two protagonists. I’ve been switching between their POVs (third person limited) chapter by chapter—always making sure that the switches are separated by chapters—but in some of the later chapters, I want to switch to third person omniscient. Will that throw off my readers?
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j00r3kw
| 1,670,884,895 | 1,670,911,825 | 1 | 2 |
Instead of going full omniscient, you can just cut to the other POV with a separator or a line break. I’d suggest reading Joe Abercrombie novels to see how it can be done.
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I just finished a book that did this across three timelines that each had more than one POV in them. It was a great read and I didn't find it confusing at all.
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Is it a bad idea to switch POVs like this? The story I’m writing right now has two protagonists. I’ve been switching between their POVs (third person limited) chapter by chapter—always making sure that the switches are separated by chapters—but in some of the later chapters, I want to switch to third person omniscient. Will that throw off my readers?
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| 1,670,884,895 | 1,670,940,100 | 1 | 2 |
Instead of going full omniscient, you can just cut to the other POV with a separator or a line break. I’d suggest reading Joe Abercrombie novels to see how it can be done.
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If I was going to do it, I’d probably treat the omniscient narrator as a new POV and transition to it with a line break. But there’s a couple reasons I wouldn’t really be interested in doing that. 1) I dislike giving the reader information that none of the POV characters have, because if none of my characters need to know that information, it’s probably not actually essential to the plot. 2) If I’m really introducing a new POV just to show what’s going on from a distance, I’d rather think of some kind of interesting character who could have that perspective rather than just the omniscient narrator. 3) Or better yet I’d see if one of my existing POV characters could somehow be maneuvered into that “distant perspective” of the scene so they can provide commentary on it.
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zk7n98
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Is it a bad idea to switch POVs like this? The story I’m writing right now has two protagonists. I’ve been switching between their POVs (third person limited) chapter by chapter—always making sure that the switches are separated by chapters—but in some of the later chapters, I want to switch to third person omniscient. Will that throw off my readers?
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| 1,670,884,895 | 1,670,945,132 | 1 | 2 |
Instead of going full omniscient, you can just cut to the other POV with a separator or a line break. I’d suggest reading Joe Abercrombie novels to see how it can be done.
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If done well it is great. Read Timothy Zahn Star Wars books for some good examples. He usually has 3-4 perspectives coincide and often end at the same location.
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zk7n98
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| 0.84 |
Is it a bad idea to switch POVs like this? The story I’m writing right now has two protagonists. I’ve been switching between their POVs (third person limited) chapter by chapter—always making sure that the switches are separated by chapters—but in some of the later chapters, I want to switch to third person omniscient. Will that throw off my readers?
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izz6qra
| 1,670,956,814 | 1,670,884,895 | 2 | 1 |
This will trip readers up. Its just a plain fact that the first time you do it, they will stumble and take a minute to figure out what's going on. Some may even feel frustrated at the sudden distance from the characters they've grown to care for. Only do this if you are sure it's the best way to write the section. Consider if "zooming out" but not going full omniscient works better. I've seen these work better as smaller scene breaks than full chapters. Steven King did a paragraph once in awhile from the town's perspective in Salem's Lot, though he probably could gave gotten away with cutting them
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Instead of going full omniscient, you can just cut to the other POV with a separator or a line break. I’d suggest reading Joe Abercrombie novels to see how it can be done.
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zk7n98
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writing_train
| 0.84 |
Is it a bad idea to switch POVs like this? The story I’m writing right now has two protagonists. I’ve been switching between their POVs (third person limited) chapter by chapter—always making sure that the switches are separated by chapters—but in some of the later chapters, I want to switch to third person omniscient. Will that throw off my readers?
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| 1,670,884,895 | 1,671,112,740 | 1 | 2 |
Instead of going full omniscient, you can just cut to the other POV with a separator or a line break. I’d suggest reading Joe Abercrombie novels to see how it can be done.
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Yes, it will. Don't do that.
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plm2rw
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Is it a bad idea to put your first book under your name? Just curious if it’s better to use a pen name for your first book? I feel mixed. I know people said it’s fine legally to use a pen name but I’m still paranoid about the dba etc lol. But, I get the pros of using a pen name, it just seems nice to put it under your own and receive recognition? Unless it’s a bomb.
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hcbgzll
| 1,631,287,329 | 1,631,285,514 | 10 | 8 |
It doesn't matter what name you use but it's a bad idea to publish it under your real name if you intend to use a pen name in the future, or vice versa. Generally better to pick one and stick to it
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TBH, the phrase “first book” has a bit of hubris. Many great authors only have one book in them. The second is no guarantee. Use the name you want to be recognized by if this is the only thing you ever complete.
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Is it a bad idea to put your first book under your name? Just curious if it’s better to use a pen name for your first book? I feel mixed. I know people said it’s fine legally to use a pen name but I’m still paranoid about the dba etc lol. But, I get the pros of using a pen name, it just seems nice to put it under your own and receive recognition? Unless it’s a bomb.
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hccdcen
| 1,631,292,284 | 1,631,298,814 | 2 | 5 |
I write just for fun and have no real aspirations of one day being a published author. But I'm planning on using a pen name (still deciding on one) because I enjoy that layer of anonymity. For example, if I self-publish something in WattPad then years later one of my kids' friends stumbles upon it and asks my kids, "Hey, isn't your mom's name XYZ? Did she write this story??? I guess I'm just really shy about sharing my work with people who know it's me, unless it's with a writing buddy.
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I mean no one who doesnt know you will know it's your real name. If your real name is Robert Johnson, I wont know if it's a real name or a pen name because I dont know you....if that makes sense. Only reason I see making a pen name is if you wanna hide your gender or if your name is something like Jeffery Dahmer and dont want to be confused with someone else (side eyes)
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plm2rw
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Is it a bad idea to put your first book under your name? Just curious if it’s better to use a pen name for your first book? I feel mixed. I know people said it’s fine legally to use a pen name but I’m still paranoid about the dba etc lol. But, I get the pros of using a pen name, it just seems nice to put it under your own and receive recognition? Unless it’s a bomb.
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| 1,631,298,814 | 1,631,292,064 | 5 | 1 |
I mean no one who doesnt know you will know it's your real name. If your real name is Robert Johnson, I wont know if it's a real name or a pen name because I dont know you....if that makes sense. Only reason I see making a pen name is if you wanna hide your gender or if your name is something like Jeffery Dahmer and dont want to be confused with someone else (side eyes)
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Not at all. There is no shame in being a novice writer. We all have to begin somewhere. 😉
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plm2rw
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Is it a bad idea to put your first book under your name? Just curious if it’s better to use a pen name for your first book? I feel mixed. I know people said it’s fine legally to use a pen name but I’m still paranoid about the dba etc lol. But, I get the pros of using a pen name, it just seems nice to put it under your own and receive recognition? Unless it’s a bomb.
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hccdcen
| 1,631,288,295 | 1,631,298,814 | 0 | 5 |
Start out with a pen name. You can always reveal your real name later, if your book becomes a success.
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I mean no one who doesnt know you will know it's your real name. If your real name is Robert Johnson, I wont know if it's a real name or a pen name because I dont know you....if that makes sense. Only reason I see making a pen name is if you wanna hide your gender or if your name is something like Jeffery Dahmer and dont want to be confused with someone else (side eyes)
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plm2rw
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Is it a bad idea to put your first book under your name? Just curious if it’s better to use a pen name for your first book? I feel mixed. I know people said it’s fine legally to use a pen name but I’m still paranoid about the dba etc lol. But, I get the pros of using a pen name, it just seems nice to put it under your own and receive recognition? Unless it’s a bomb.
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| 1,631,298,814 | 1,631,293,874 | 5 | 1 |
I mean no one who doesnt know you will know it's your real name. If your real name is Robert Johnson, I wont know if it's a real name or a pen name because I dont know you....if that makes sense. Only reason I see making a pen name is if you wanna hide your gender or if your name is something like Jeffery Dahmer and dont want to be confused with someone else (side eyes)
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Don't over think it. Just write the book, get an agent, find a publisher, then you can think through how you want it branded.
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plm2rw
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Is it a bad idea to put your first book under your name? Just curious if it’s better to use a pen name for your first book? I feel mixed. I know people said it’s fine legally to use a pen name but I’m still paranoid about the dba etc lol. But, I get the pros of using a pen name, it just seems nice to put it under your own and receive recognition? Unless it’s a bomb.
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hcbxrwr
| 1,631,311,400 | 1,631,292,284 | 3 | 2 |
The story I recently sent in, I put under a pseudonym for a couple of reasons; 1. My real name is difficult to pronounce for the majority of people. 2. Hopefully using a fake name will keep my privacy for a little bit longer so I can avoid people hounding me if they like/don't like the book. 3. My pseudonym is just a cooler name.
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I write just for fun and have no real aspirations of one day being a published author. But I'm planning on using a pen name (still deciding on one) because I enjoy that layer of anonymity. For example, if I self-publish something in WattPad then years later one of my kids' friends stumbles upon it and asks my kids, "Hey, isn't your mom's name XYZ? Did she write this story??? I guess I'm just really shy about sharing my work with people who know it's me, unless it's with a writing buddy.
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plm2rw
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Is it a bad idea to put your first book under your name? Just curious if it’s better to use a pen name for your first book? I feel mixed. I know people said it’s fine legally to use a pen name but I’m still paranoid about the dba etc lol. But, I get the pros of using a pen name, it just seems nice to put it under your own and receive recognition? Unless it’s a bomb.
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hccuoca
| 1,631,311,400 | 1,631,306,216 | 3 | 2 |
The story I recently sent in, I put under a pseudonym for a couple of reasons; 1. My real name is difficult to pronounce for the majority of people. 2. Hopefully using a fake name will keep my privacy for a little bit longer so I can avoid people hounding me if they like/don't like the book. 3. My pseudonym is just a cooler name.
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I started my main project when I was 12 and I named the name character after myself. Now it feels silly and sheepish, and it is a driving factor why I would want to publish under a pen name. I'm also quite a private person so if anything big did ever come out of it I could still move around as though I'd not written the books. Person preference though. I know that legally the publishing contracts and all of the legal stuff has to be under your legal name
| 1 | 5,184 | 1.5 | ||
plm2rw
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writing_train
| 0.84 |
Is it a bad idea to put your first book under your name? Just curious if it’s better to use a pen name for your first book? I feel mixed. I know people said it’s fine legally to use a pen name but I’m still paranoid about the dba etc lol. But, I get the pros of using a pen name, it just seems nice to put it under your own and receive recognition? Unless it’s a bomb.
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hcd6eia
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hcbx7z7
| 1,631,311,400 | 1,631,292,064 | 3 | 1 |
The story I recently sent in, I put under a pseudonym for a couple of reasons; 1. My real name is difficult to pronounce for the majority of people. 2. Hopefully using a fake name will keep my privacy for a little bit longer so I can avoid people hounding me if they like/don't like the book. 3. My pseudonym is just a cooler name.
|
Not at all. There is no shame in being a novice writer. We all have to begin somewhere. 😉
| 1 | 19,336 | 3 | ||
plm2rw
|
writing_train
| 0.84 |
Is it a bad idea to put your first book under your name? Just curious if it’s better to use a pen name for your first book? I feel mixed. I know people said it’s fine legally to use a pen name but I’m still paranoid about the dba etc lol. But, I get the pros of using a pen name, it just seems nice to put it under your own and receive recognition? Unless it’s a bomb.
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hcbnuj4
|
hcd6eia
| 1,631,288,295 | 1,631,311,400 | 0 | 3 |
Start out with a pen name. You can always reveal your real name later, if your book becomes a success.
|
The story I recently sent in, I put under a pseudonym for a couple of reasons; 1. My real name is difficult to pronounce for the majority of people. 2. Hopefully using a fake name will keep my privacy for a little bit longer so I can avoid people hounding me if they like/don't like the book. 3. My pseudonym is just a cooler name.
| 0 | 23,105 | 3,000 | ||
plm2rw
|
writing_train
| 0.84 |
Is it a bad idea to put your first book under your name? Just curious if it’s better to use a pen name for your first book? I feel mixed. I know people said it’s fine legally to use a pen name but I’m still paranoid about the dba etc lol. But, I get the pros of using a pen name, it just seems nice to put it under your own and receive recognition? Unless it’s a bomb.
|
hcc1py9
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hcd6eia
| 1,631,293,874 | 1,631,311,400 | 1 | 3 |
Don't over think it. Just write the book, get an agent, find a publisher, then you can think through how you want it branded.
|
The story I recently sent in, I put under a pseudonym for a couple of reasons; 1. My real name is difficult to pronounce for the majority of people. 2. Hopefully using a fake name will keep my privacy for a little bit longer so I can avoid people hounding me if they like/don't like the book. 3. My pseudonym is just a cooler name.
| 0 | 17,526 | 3 | ||
plm2rw
|
writing_train
| 0.84 |
Is it a bad idea to put your first book under your name? Just curious if it’s better to use a pen name for your first book? I feel mixed. I know people said it’s fine legally to use a pen name but I’m still paranoid about the dba etc lol. But, I get the pros of using a pen name, it just seems nice to put it under your own and receive recognition? Unless it’s a bomb.
|
hccmupz
|
hcd6eia
| 1,631,302,886 | 1,631,311,400 | 1 | 3 |
It's not good or bad, it is entirely up to you and how comfortable you feel using your own name or not. There are a lot of people who used pen names for various reasons at various stages of thier career, like Sarah monette becoming Katherine Addison to restart her career to Stephen king being Richard Bachman as an experiment, Catherine Webb becoming Kate Griffin and Claire north for different styles of writing as she got older. Madeline Wickham using Sophie Kinsella to separate the comedy from the serious, Tom Holt being KJ Parker to get his books taken seriously. Sally Gardener using Wray Delaney to separate her adult books from the kids ones. Nora Roberts with her multiple pen names just to not flood the market with her books every year. There is nothing stopping you from using a different name later on and the most important thing is agreement with your publishing team (agent and editor mostly) about what your name is going to be on the cover.
|
The story I recently sent in, I put under a pseudonym for a couple of reasons; 1. My real name is difficult to pronounce for the majority of people. 2. Hopefully using a fake name will keep my privacy for a little bit longer so I can avoid people hounding me if they like/don't like the book. 3. My pseudonym is just a cooler name.
| 0 | 8,514 | 3 | ||
plm2rw
|
writing_train
| 0.84 |
Is it a bad idea to put your first book under your name? Just curious if it’s better to use a pen name for your first book? I feel mixed. I know people said it’s fine legally to use a pen name but I’m still paranoid about the dba etc lol. But, I get the pros of using a pen name, it just seems nice to put it under your own and receive recognition? Unless it’s a bomb.
|
hcbxrwr
|
hcd7s75
| 1,631,292,284 | 1,631,312,045 | 2 | 3 |
I write just for fun and have no real aspirations of one day being a published author. But I'm planning on using a pen name (still deciding on one) because I enjoy that layer of anonymity. For example, if I self-publish something in WattPad then years later one of my kids' friends stumbles upon it and asks my kids, "Hey, isn't your mom's name XYZ? Did she write this story??? I guess I'm just really shy about sharing my work with people who know it's me, unless it's with a writing buddy.
|
If you're in middle school or high school, use a pen name. There will always be some rotten piece of work who will hear that you have a book out and will make you a target of bullying, just to be hurtful.
| 0 | 19,761 | 1.5 | ||
plm2rw
|
writing_train
| 0.84 |
Is it a bad idea to put your first book under your name? Just curious if it’s better to use a pen name for your first book? I feel mixed. I know people said it’s fine legally to use a pen name but I’m still paranoid about the dba etc lol. But, I get the pros of using a pen name, it just seems nice to put it under your own and receive recognition? Unless it’s a bomb.
|
hcd7s75
|
hccuoca
| 1,631,312,045 | 1,631,306,216 | 3 | 2 |
If you're in middle school or high school, use a pen name. There will always be some rotten piece of work who will hear that you have a book out and will make you a target of bullying, just to be hurtful.
|
I started my main project when I was 12 and I named the name character after myself. Now it feels silly and sheepish, and it is a driving factor why I would want to publish under a pen name. I'm also quite a private person so if anything big did ever come out of it I could still move around as though I'd not written the books. Person preference though. I know that legally the publishing contracts and all of the legal stuff has to be under your legal name
| 1 | 5,829 | 1.5 | ||
plm2rw
|
writing_train
| 0.84 |
Is it a bad idea to put your first book under your name? Just curious if it’s better to use a pen name for your first book? I feel mixed. I know people said it’s fine legally to use a pen name but I’m still paranoid about the dba etc lol. But, I get the pros of using a pen name, it just seems nice to put it under your own and receive recognition? Unless it’s a bomb.
|
hcd7s75
|
hcbx7z7
| 1,631,312,045 | 1,631,292,064 | 3 | 1 |
If you're in middle school or high school, use a pen name. There will always be some rotten piece of work who will hear that you have a book out and will make you a target of bullying, just to be hurtful.
|
Not at all. There is no shame in being a novice writer. We all have to begin somewhere. 😉
| 1 | 19,981 | 3 | ||
plm2rw
|
writing_train
| 0.84 |
Is it a bad idea to put your first book under your name? Just curious if it’s better to use a pen name for your first book? I feel mixed. I know people said it’s fine legally to use a pen name but I’m still paranoid about the dba etc lol. But, I get the pros of using a pen name, it just seems nice to put it under your own and receive recognition? Unless it’s a bomb.
|
hcd7s75
|
hcbnuj4
| 1,631,312,045 | 1,631,288,295 | 3 | 0 |
If you're in middle school or high school, use a pen name. There will always be some rotten piece of work who will hear that you have a book out and will make you a target of bullying, just to be hurtful.
|
Start out with a pen name. You can always reveal your real name later, if your book becomes a success.
| 1 | 23,750 | 3,000 | ||
plm2rw
|
writing_train
| 0.84 |
Is it a bad idea to put your first book under your name? Just curious if it’s better to use a pen name for your first book? I feel mixed. I know people said it’s fine legally to use a pen name but I’m still paranoid about the dba etc lol. But, I get the pros of using a pen name, it just seems nice to put it under your own and receive recognition? Unless it’s a bomb.
|
hcc1py9
|
hcd7s75
| 1,631,293,874 | 1,631,312,045 | 1 | 3 |
Don't over think it. Just write the book, get an agent, find a publisher, then you can think through how you want it branded.
|
If you're in middle school or high school, use a pen name. There will always be some rotten piece of work who will hear that you have a book out and will make you a target of bullying, just to be hurtful.
| 0 | 18,171 | 3 | ||
plm2rw
|
writing_train
| 0.84 |
Is it a bad idea to put your first book under your name? Just curious if it’s better to use a pen name for your first book? I feel mixed. I know people said it’s fine legally to use a pen name but I’m still paranoid about the dba etc lol. But, I get the pros of using a pen name, it just seems nice to put it under your own and receive recognition? Unless it’s a bomb.
|
hcd7s75
|
hccmupz
| 1,631,312,045 | 1,631,302,886 | 3 | 1 |
If you're in middle school or high school, use a pen name. There will always be some rotten piece of work who will hear that you have a book out and will make you a target of bullying, just to be hurtful.
|
It's not good or bad, it is entirely up to you and how comfortable you feel using your own name or not. There are a lot of people who used pen names for various reasons at various stages of thier career, like Sarah monette becoming Katherine Addison to restart her career to Stephen king being Richard Bachman as an experiment, Catherine Webb becoming Kate Griffin and Claire north for different styles of writing as she got older. Madeline Wickham using Sophie Kinsella to separate the comedy from the serious, Tom Holt being KJ Parker to get his books taken seriously. Sally Gardener using Wray Delaney to separate her adult books from the kids ones. Nora Roberts with her multiple pen names just to not flood the market with her books every year. There is nothing stopping you from using a different name later on and the most important thing is agreement with your publishing team (agent and editor mostly) about what your name is going to be on the cover.
| 1 | 9,159 | 3 | ||
plm2rw
|
writing_train
| 0.84 |
Is it a bad idea to put your first book under your name? Just curious if it’s better to use a pen name for your first book? I feel mixed. I know people said it’s fine legally to use a pen name but I’m still paranoid about the dba etc lol. But, I get the pros of using a pen name, it just seems nice to put it under your own and receive recognition? Unless it’s a bomb.
|
hcbxrwr
|
hcbx7z7
| 1,631,292,284 | 1,631,292,064 | 2 | 1 |
I write just for fun and have no real aspirations of one day being a published author. But I'm planning on using a pen name (still deciding on one) because I enjoy that layer of anonymity. For example, if I self-publish something in WattPad then years later one of my kids' friends stumbles upon it and asks my kids, "Hey, isn't your mom's name XYZ? Did she write this story??? I guess I'm just really shy about sharing my work with people who know it's me, unless it's with a writing buddy.
|
Not at all. There is no shame in being a novice writer. We all have to begin somewhere. 😉
| 1 | 220 | 2 | ||
plm2rw
|
writing_train
| 0.84 |
Is it a bad idea to put your first book under your name? Just curious if it’s better to use a pen name for your first book? I feel mixed. I know people said it’s fine legally to use a pen name but I’m still paranoid about the dba etc lol. But, I get the pros of using a pen name, it just seems nice to put it under your own and receive recognition? Unless it’s a bomb.
|
hcbnuj4
|
hcbxrwr
| 1,631,288,295 | 1,631,292,284 | 0 | 2 |
Start out with a pen name. You can always reveal your real name later, if your book becomes a success.
|
I write just for fun and have no real aspirations of one day being a published author. But I'm planning on using a pen name (still deciding on one) because I enjoy that layer of anonymity. For example, if I self-publish something in WattPad then years later one of my kids' friends stumbles upon it and asks my kids, "Hey, isn't your mom's name XYZ? Did she write this story??? I guess I'm just really shy about sharing my work with people who know it's me, unless it's with a writing buddy.
| 0 | 3,989 | 2,000 | ||
plm2rw
|
writing_train
| 0.84 |
Is it a bad idea to put your first book under your name? Just curious if it’s better to use a pen name for your first book? I feel mixed. I know people said it’s fine legally to use a pen name but I’m still paranoid about the dba etc lol. But, I get the pros of using a pen name, it just seems nice to put it under your own and receive recognition? Unless it’s a bomb.
|
hccuoca
|
hcbx7z7
| 1,631,306,216 | 1,631,292,064 | 2 | 1 |
I started my main project when I was 12 and I named the name character after myself. Now it feels silly and sheepish, and it is a driving factor why I would want to publish under a pen name. I'm also quite a private person so if anything big did ever come out of it I could still move around as though I'd not written the books. Person preference though. I know that legally the publishing contracts and all of the legal stuff has to be under your legal name
|
Not at all. There is no shame in being a novice writer. We all have to begin somewhere. 😉
| 1 | 14,152 | 2 | ||
plm2rw
|
writing_train
| 0.84 |
Is it a bad idea to put your first book under your name? Just curious if it’s better to use a pen name for your first book? I feel mixed. I know people said it’s fine legally to use a pen name but I’m still paranoid about the dba etc lol. But, I get the pros of using a pen name, it just seems nice to put it under your own and receive recognition? Unless it’s a bomb.
|
hcbnuj4
|
hccuoca
| 1,631,288,295 | 1,631,306,216 | 0 | 2 |
Start out with a pen name. You can always reveal your real name later, if your book becomes a success.
|
I started my main project when I was 12 and I named the name character after myself. Now it feels silly and sheepish, and it is a driving factor why I would want to publish under a pen name. I'm also quite a private person so if anything big did ever come out of it I could still move around as though I'd not written the books. Person preference though. I know that legally the publishing contracts and all of the legal stuff has to be under your legal name
| 0 | 17,921 | 2,000 | ||
plm2rw
|
writing_train
| 0.84 |
Is it a bad idea to put your first book under your name? Just curious if it’s better to use a pen name for your first book? I feel mixed. I know people said it’s fine legally to use a pen name but I’m still paranoid about the dba etc lol. But, I get the pros of using a pen name, it just seems nice to put it under your own and receive recognition? Unless it’s a bomb.
|
hcc1py9
|
hccuoca
| 1,631,293,874 | 1,631,306,216 | 1 | 2 |
Don't over think it. Just write the book, get an agent, find a publisher, then you can think through how you want it branded.
|
I started my main project when I was 12 and I named the name character after myself. Now it feels silly and sheepish, and it is a driving factor why I would want to publish under a pen name. I'm also quite a private person so if anything big did ever come out of it I could still move around as though I'd not written the books. Person preference though. I know that legally the publishing contracts and all of the legal stuff has to be under your legal name
| 0 | 12,342 | 2 | ||
plm2rw
|
writing_train
| 0.84 |
Is it a bad idea to put your first book under your name? Just curious if it’s better to use a pen name for your first book? I feel mixed. I know people said it’s fine legally to use a pen name but I’m still paranoid about the dba etc lol. But, I get the pros of using a pen name, it just seems nice to put it under your own and receive recognition? Unless it’s a bomb.
|
hccmupz
|
hccuoca
| 1,631,302,886 | 1,631,306,216 | 1 | 2 |
It's not good or bad, it is entirely up to you and how comfortable you feel using your own name or not. There are a lot of people who used pen names for various reasons at various stages of thier career, like Sarah monette becoming Katherine Addison to restart her career to Stephen king being Richard Bachman as an experiment, Catherine Webb becoming Kate Griffin and Claire north for different styles of writing as she got older. Madeline Wickham using Sophie Kinsella to separate the comedy from the serious, Tom Holt being KJ Parker to get his books taken seriously. Sally Gardener using Wray Delaney to separate her adult books from the kids ones. Nora Roberts with her multiple pen names just to not flood the market with her books every year. There is nothing stopping you from using a different name later on and the most important thing is agreement with your publishing team (agent and editor mostly) about what your name is going to be on the cover.
|
I started my main project when I was 12 and I named the name character after myself. Now it feels silly and sheepish, and it is a driving factor why I would want to publish under a pen name. I'm also quite a private person so if anything big did ever come out of it I could still move around as though I'd not written the books. Person preference though. I know that legally the publishing contracts and all of the legal stuff has to be under your legal name
| 0 | 3,330 | 2 | ||
plm2rw
|
writing_train
| 0.84 |
Is it a bad idea to put your first book under your name? Just curious if it’s better to use a pen name for your first book? I feel mixed. I know people said it’s fine legally to use a pen name but I’m still paranoid about the dba etc lol. But, I get the pros of using a pen name, it just seems nice to put it under your own and receive recognition? Unless it’s a bomb.
|
hcbx7z7
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hdlq1kj
| 1,631,292,064 | 1,632,152,885 | 1 | 2 |
Not at all. There is no shame in being a novice writer. We all have to begin somewhere. 😉
|
I use my real name because that makes it easier for friends and family to find my books, and if I ever become famous, I want people to be calling me by my real name.
| 0 | 860,821 | 2 | ||
plm2rw
|
writing_train
| 0.84 |
Is it a bad idea to put your first book under your name? Just curious if it’s better to use a pen name for your first book? I feel mixed. I know people said it’s fine legally to use a pen name but I’m still paranoid about the dba etc lol. But, I get the pros of using a pen name, it just seems nice to put it under your own and receive recognition? Unless it’s a bomb.
|
hcdq7py
|
hdlq1kj
| 1,631,321,115 | 1,632,152,885 | 1 | 2 |
IMO most first books should never be published.
|
I use my real name because that makes it easier for friends and family to find my books, and if I ever become famous, I want people to be calling me by my real name.
| 0 | 831,770 | 2 | ||
plm2rw
|
writing_train
| 0.84 |
Is it a bad idea to put your first book under your name? Just curious if it’s better to use a pen name for your first book? I feel mixed. I know people said it’s fine legally to use a pen name but I’m still paranoid about the dba etc lol. But, I get the pros of using a pen name, it just seems nice to put it under your own and receive recognition? Unless it’s a bomb.
|
hdlq1kj
|
hcbnuj4
| 1,632,152,885 | 1,631,288,295 | 2 | 0 |
I use my real name because that makes it easier for friends and family to find my books, and if I ever become famous, I want people to be calling me by my real name.
|
Start out with a pen name. You can always reveal your real name later, if your book becomes a success.
| 1 | 864,590 | 2,000 | ||
plm2rw
|
writing_train
| 0.84 |
Is it a bad idea to put your first book under your name? Just curious if it’s better to use a pen name for your first book? I feel mixed. I know people said it’s fine legally to use a pen name but I’m still paranoid about the dba etc lol. But, I get the pros of using a pen name, it just seems nice to put it under your own and receive recognition? Unless it’s a bomb.
|
hcc1py9
|
hdlq1kj
| 1,631,293,874 | 1,632,152,885 | 1 | 2 |
Don't over think it. Just write the book, get an agent, find a publisher, then you can think through how you want it branded.
|
I use my real name because that makes it easier for friends and family to find my books, and if I ever become famous, I want people to be calling me by my real name.
| 0 | 859,011 | 2 | ||
plm2rw
|
writing_train
| 0.84 |
Is it a bad idea to put your first book under your name? Just curious if it’s better to use a pen name for your first book? I feel mixed. I know people said it’s fine legally to use a pen name but I’m still paranoid about the dba etc lol. But, I get the pros of using a pen name, it just seems nice to put it under your own and receive recognition? Unless it’s a bomb.
|
hdlq1kj
|
hccmupz
| 1,632,152,885 | 1,631,302,886 | 2 | 1 |
I use my real name because that makes it easier for friends and family to find my books, and if I ever become famous, I want people to be calling me by my real name.
|
It's not good or bad, it is entirely up to you and how comfortable you feel using your own name or not. There are a lot of people who used pen names for various reasons at various stages of thier career, like Sarah monette becoming Katherine Addison to restart her career to Stephen king being Richard Bachman as an experiment, Catherine Webb becoming Kate Griffin and Claire north for different styles of writing as she got older. Madeline Wickham using Sophie Kinsella to separate the comedy from the serious, Tom Holt being KJ Parker to get his books taken seriously. Sally Gardener using Wray Delaney to separate her adult books from the kids ones. Nora Roberts with her multiple pen names just to not flood the market with her books every year. There is nothing stopping you from using a different name later on and the most important thing is agreement with your publishing team (agent and editor mostly) about what your name is going to be on the cover.
| 1 | 849,999 | 2 | ||
plm2rw
|
writing_train
| 0.84 |
Is it a bad idea to put your first book under your name? Just curious if it’s better to use a pen name for your first book? I feel mixed. I know people said it’s fine legally to use a pen name but I’m still paranoid about the dba etc lol. But, I get the pros of using a pen name, it just seems nice to put it under your own and receive recognition? Unless it’s a bomb.
|
hcdsn2e
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hdlq1kj
| 1,631,322,349 | 1,632,152,885 | 1 | 2 |
I think it depends on your reasoning for it. I use one so I can hide my identity from specific people. Sure it will come out one day, but hopefully not before I'm established (emotionally and professionally). If it weren't for them I'd use my real name. A bomb will be found later in your career, generally when you're already being recognised for something else. Who knows, that bomb may suddenly start selling. Every writer goes through growth. A bomb just shows readers that you started somewhere too. It gives you a chance to talk to novices when you become a best seller and point to where you started. It encourages younger writers to keep practicing their art.
|
I use my real name because that makes it easier for friends and family to find my books, and if I ever become famous, I want people to be calling me by my real name.
| 0 | 830,536 | 2 | ||
plm2rw
|
writing_train
| 0.84 |
Is it a bad idea to put your first book under your name? Just curious if it’s better to use a pen name for your first book? I feel mixed. I know people said it’s fine legally to use a pen name but I’m still paranoid about the dba etc lol. But, I get the pros of using a pen name, it just seems nice to put it under your own and receive recognition? Unless it’s a bomb.
|
hcbnuj4
|
hcbx7z7
| 1,631,288,295 | 1,631,292,064 | 0 | 1 |
Start out with a pen name. You can always reveal your real name later, if your book becomes a success.
|
Not at all. There is no shame in being a novice writer. We all have to begin somewhere. 😉
| 0 | 3,769 | 1,000 | ||
plm2rw
|
writing_train
| 0.84 |
Is it a bad idea to put your first book under your name? Just curious if it’s better to use a pen name for your first book? I feel mixed. I know people said it’s fine legally to use a pen name but I’m still paranoid about the dba etc lol. But, I get the pros of using a pen name, it just seems nice to put it under your own and receive recognition? Unless it’s a bomb.
|
hcdq7py
|
hcbnuj4
| 1,631,321,115 | 1,631,288,295 | 1 | 0 |
IMO most first books should never be published.
|
Start out with a pen name. You can always reveal your real name later, if your book becomes a success.
| 1 | 32,820 | 1,000 | ||
plm2rw
|
writing_train
| 0.84 |
Is it a bad idea to put your first book under your name? Just curious if it’s better to use a pen name for your first book? I feel mixed. I know people said it’s fine legally to use a pen name but I’m still paranoid about the dba etc lol. But, I get the pros of using a pen name, it just seems nice to put it under your own and receive recognition? Unless it’s a bomb.
|
hcc1py9
|
hcbnuj4
| 1,631,293,874 | 1,631,288,295 | 1 | 0 |
Don't over think it. Just write the book, get an agent, find a publisher, then you can think through how you want it branded.
|
Start out with a pen name. You can always reveal your real name later, if your book becomes a success.
| 1 | 5,579 | 1,000 | ||
plm2rw
|
writing_train
| 0.84 |
Is it a bad idea to put your first book under your name? Just curious if it’s better to use a pen name for your first book? I feel mixed. I know people said it’s fine legally to use a pen name but I’m still paranoid about the dba etc lol. But, I get the pros of using a pen name, it just seems nice to put it under your own and receive recognition? Unless it’s a bomb.
|
hccmupz
|
hcbnuj4
| 1,631,302,886 | 1,631,288,295 | 1 | 0 |
It's not good or bad, it is entirely up to you and how comfortable you feel using your own name or not. There are a lot of people who used pen names for various reasons at various stages of thier career, like Sarah monette becoming Katherine Addison to restart her career to Stephen king being Richard Bachman as an experiment, Catherine Webb becoming Kate Griffin and Claire north for different styles of writing as she got older. Madeline Wickham using Sophie Kinsella to separate the comedy from the serious, Tom Holt being KJ Parker to get his books taken seriously. Sally Gardener using Wray Delaney to separate her adult books from the kids ones. Nora Roberts with her multiple pen names just to not flood the market with her books every year. There is nothing stopping you from using a different name later on and the most important thing is agreement with your publishing team (agent and editor mostly) about what your name is going to be on the cover.
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Start out with a pen name. You can always reveal your real name later, if your book becomes a success.
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Is it a bad idea to put your first book under your name? Just curious if it’s better to use a pen name for your first book? I feel mixed. I know people said it’s fine legally to use a pen name but I’m still paranoid about the dba etc lol. But, I get the pros of using a pen name, it just seems nice to put it under your own and receive recognition? Unless it’s a bomb.
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I think it depends on your reasoning for it. I use one so I can hide my identity from specific people. Sure it will come out one day, but hopefully not before I'm established (emotionally and professionally). If it weren't for them I'd use my real name. A bomb will be found later in your career, generally when you're already being recognised for something else. Who knows, that bomb may suddenly start selling. Every writer goes through growth. A bomb just shows readers that you started somewhere too. It gives you a chance to talk to novices when you become a best seller and point to where you started. It encourages younger writers to keep practicing their art.
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Start out with a pen name. You can always reveal your real name later, if your book becomes a success.
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rck5sq
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Is it a bad idea to try establishing multiple perspectives? To clarify, I like to write in third person so I was thinking it would work fine but now I’m just a little unsure of myself. My story has the obvious central main character, but I was thinking about shifting the focus to other characters as well. I’ve already done it twice now with one supporting character and the antagonist. Then I was going to do it again with the other main character, but now I’m thinking about it and I’m wondering if I’m just flip-flopping a little too much between the cast.
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Multiple perspectives are perfectly normal and are used effectively in innumerable ways. Some people who are taught to recoil like a vampire from garlic bread at the thought of "head-hopping" are hesitant about multiple viewpoints, but the thing about viewpoints is that if you select them on purpose, you're fine. The sane advice is that the transition has to exist and not to whipsaw the reader without providing some kind of payoff. In *The Lord of the Rings*, we spend a few scenes with Sam's point of view when Frodo is unconscious after encountering Shelob. Had Tolkien had a horror of POV shifts, the reader would never have learned what happened, since Frodo was too ill afterward to be subjected to a lengthy description of what had happened, so we wouldn't have had it even at second hand except as a couple of brief sentences. A lesser writer would have made Frodo more of a Mary Sue and not allowed him to fall unconscious and leave everything up to Sam, but to remain in the spotlight throughout. The storytelling difficulties of a single close perspective tend to inflate the viewpoint character at everyone else's expense. It's simpler that way but limits the kinds of stories that can be told.
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I personally love it and love reading books that do it. It makes the characters feel more alive and the story more interesting if done well. The most common I've seen that doesn't make it confusing for the reader is switching perspectives each chapter. Maybe switching it multiple times throughout a chapter can seem confusing. "Beautiful Ruins" does this in some chapters though, but I thought that book was brilliant.
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rck5sq
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Is it a bad idea to try establishing multiple perspectives? To clarify, I like to write in third person so I was thinking it would work fine but now I’m just a little unsure of myself. My story has the obvious central main character, but I was thinking about shifting the focus to other characters as well. I’ve already done it twice now with one supporting character and the antagonist. Then I was going to do it again with the other main character, but now I’m thinking about it and I’m wondering if I’m just flip-flopping a little too much between the cast.
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In answer to your question, I would pose two for you. :) First -- how will you make the POV characters so distinct that readers can identify them without you inserting their name? Second -- how does switching POV characters contribute positively to the story? Write long and prosper. :)
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I personally love it and love reading books that do it. It makes the characters feel more alive and the story more interesting if done well. The most common I've seen that doesn't make it confusing for the reader is switching perspectives each chapter. Maybe switching it multiple times throughout a chapter can seem confusing. "Beautiful Ruins" does this in some chapters though, but I thought that book was brilliant.
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rck5sq
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Is it a bad idea to try establishing multiple perspectives? To clarify, I like to write in third person so I was thinking it would work fine but now I’m just a little unsure of myself. My story has the obvious central main character, but I was thinking about shifting the focus to other characters as well. I’ve already done it twice now with one supporting character and the antagonist. Then I was going to do it again with the other main character, but now I’m thinking about it and I’m wondering if I’m just flip-flopping a little too much between the cast.
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In answer to your question, I would pose two for you. :) First -- how will you make the POV characters so distinct that readers can identify them without you inserting their name? Second -- how does switching POV characters contribute positively to the story? Write long and prosper. :)
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Make sure there are lots of shared points of reference between the characters, ie the same annoying party guest or an event that gives a rough indication of the time/place. Helps keeps things tight - keep all those threads together! Good examples of this can be found in Back to the Future and Pulp Fiction.
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rck5sq
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Is it a bad idea to try establishing multiple perspectives? To clarify, I like to write in third person so I was thinking it would work fine but now I’m just a little unsure of myself. My story has the obvious central main character, but I was thinking about shifting the focus to other characters as well. I’ve already done it twice now with one supporting character and the antagonist. Then I was going to do it again with the other main character, but now I’m thinking about it and I’m wondering if I’m just flip-flopping a little too much between the cast.
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hnvgiyg
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In answer to your question, I would pose two for you. :) First -- how will you make the POV characters so distinct that readers can identify them without you inserting their name? Second -- how does switching POV characters contribute positively to the story? Write long and prosper. :)
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Just make sure we have no doubt who the main character is and you're good.
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rck5sq
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Is it a bad idea to try establishing multiple perspectives? To clarify, I like to write in third person so I was thinking it would work fine but now I’m just a little unsure of myself. My story has the obvious central main character, but I was thinking about shifting the focus to other characters as well. I’ve already done it twice now with one supporting character and the antagonist. Then I was going to do it again with the other main character, but now I’m thinking about it and I’m wondering if I’m just flip-flopping a little too much between the cast.
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hnvkw6h
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Some writers are great at using multiple points of view. Some are really not. All I can tell, as a reader, is that the latter group has no idea how to use those other points of view to enrich the reader's understanding outside the main character's experiences. Make it count. That's the key.
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In answer to your question, I would pose two for you. :) First -- how will you make the POV characters so distinct that readers can identify them without you inserting their name? Second -- how does switching POV characters contribute positively to the story? Write long and prosper. :)
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rvcg08
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Is it a good idea to use wattpad? So I'm in the final edit of my very first novel. I hadn't harbored dreams of being a professional writer until one day, I began writing this thing. It's been a year and a half, and suddenly it's almost finished, and I know absolutely nothing about the industry. I've read a few posts in this r/ but I still have a lot to learn. And something that leaped at me, and was a little obvious, is that I'll have a much harder time getting accepted by an editorial being the complete no-name that I am. What I wonder is, would wattpad be any help in that regard? If I managed to get a good-sized following, would that improve my chances? Aside from whatever else I might need to do, of course.
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Just because someone has a good following doesn't mean that they are a very good writer. Many people on those writing websites get popular by writing steamy love scenes from different fandoms. It doesn't mean that it's good. Personally I think it's a waste of time if you are looking to make a living off of your writing and Publishing.
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Most likely wouldn't help. In some writing circles, wattpad is a curse word. I'd advise you to do a little more research.
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rvcg08
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Is it a good idea to use wattpad? So I'm in the final edit of my very first novel. I hadn't harbored dreams of being a professional writer until one day, I began writing this thing. It's been a year and a half, and suddenly it's almost finished, and I know absolutely nothing about the industry. I've read a few posts in this r/ but I still have a lot to learn. And something that leaped at me, and was a little obvious, is that I'll have a much harder time getting accepted by an editorial being the complete no-name that I am. What I wonder is, would wattpad be any help in that regard? If I managed to get a good-sized following, would that improve my chances? Aside from whatever else I might need to do, of course.
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Congrats on finishing your book! If you're going the traditional publishing route, you need an agent to get you an editor but agents take unsolicited manuscripts all the time. The process of getting an agent is called querying and it sucks and can take a long time (esp. in this post-COVID environment) but it is definitely possible and it's the main way its done. For the most part, publishers don't actually care all that much if you're big name or not (esp. as there have now been so many books by famous people that didn't sell) but they do 100% care if you've published on something like wattpad. If you put a story out online where people can see it, publishers won't want it. End of story. (They would still be willing to look at later things, but that particular work can never be traditionally published) My biggest advice would be to start finding communities of established writers that you can hang out in and learn from. If this is your first book, chances are that it will be a while before you are writing anything of publishable quality and reaching that place will be much easier if you're connected to writing communities. When I was starting, I attended public writing groups and local writing conventions in my area and was eventually able to find the people in my long term critique group. I would also recommend looking at resources like Alexa Donne's youtube channel because she can be a good gateway to information on traditional publishing if you aren't in those circles. That said, it also depends what you want. If you want to be professionally published, that's a long haul thing (like start thinking 5, 10, 15 years). If you want people to see this story right now something like wattpad might make sense. That said, I know very little about wattpad specifically and looking into self pub would probably make more sense. But if you want to be traditionally published, start looking into the querying process and make a go of it. If this book gets agented, that's amazing! If not, then you can always try again with more experience in the future.
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Just because someone has a good following doesn't mean that they are a very good writer. Many people on those writing websites get popular by writing steamy love scenes from different fandoms. It doesn't mean that it's good. Personally I think it's a waste of time if you are looking to make a living off of your writing and Publishing.
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rvcg08
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Is it a good idea to use wattpad? So I'm in the final edit of my very first novel. I hadn't harbored dreams of being a professional writer until one day, I began writing this thing. It's been a year and a half, and suddenly it's almost finished, and I know absolutely nothing about the industry. I've read a few posts in this r/ but I still have a lot to learn. And something that leaped at me, and was a little obvious, is that I'll have a much harder time getting accepted by an editorial being the complete no-name that I am. What I wonder is, would wattpad be any help in that regard? If I managed to get a good-sized following, would that improve my chances? Aside from whatever else I might need to do, of course.
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Do not post your work to wattpad if you aim to earn money with it. If you want to be traditionally published, start querying agents and sending out your work to them. Sending your work to wattpad would mean that lot of agents and publishers would consider your work as published since it can be read on wattpad.
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You can look into Podcasts there are a lot about writing that can help. Also look into your local Library they may have events and things for writing.
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rvcg08
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Is it a good idea to use wattpad? So I'm in the final edit of my very first novel. I hadn't harbored dreams of being a professional writer until one day, I began writing this thing. It's been a year and a half, and suddenly it's almost finished, and I know absolutely nothing about the industry. I've read a few posts in this r/ but I still have a lot to learn. And something that leaped at me, and was a little obvious, is that I'll have a much harder time getting accepted by an editorial being the complete no-name that I am. What I wonder is, would wattpad be any help in that regard? If I managed to get a good-sized following, would that improve my chances? Aside from whatever else I might need to do, of course.
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I guess it depends if Wattpad readers is your audience. Personally I left Wattpad. I found too many issues with algorithm and tags. It's a bit scummy that they have 2 types of in app currency that guarantees them money but you're left watching ads like it's a lazy Mobile game (unless you pay for premium). Perhaps I'm just old and bitter, I know people like it there but honestly it's not something I want to invest my time in. I recommend you try it yourself or at least do some research and talk to different sources.
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Do not post your work to wattpad if you aim to earn money with it. If you want to be traditionally published, start querying agents and sending out your work to them. Sending your work to wattpad would mean that lot of agents and publishers would consider your work as published since it can be read on wattpad.
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rvcg08
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writing_train
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Is it a good idea to use wattpad? So I'm in the final edit of my very first novel. I hadn't harbored dreams of being a professional writer until one day, I began writing this thing. It's been a year and a half, and suddenly it's almost finished, and I know absolutely nothing about the industry. I've read a few posts in this r/ but I still have a lot to learn. And something that leaped at me, and was a little obvious, is that I'll have a much harder time getting accepted by an editorial being the complete no-name that I am. What I wonder is, would wattpad be any help in that regard? If I managed to get a good-sized following, would that improve my chances? Aside from whatever else I might need to do, of course.
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Congratulations on finishing your first novel! I think it really depends on your audience, rather than how big of a following you have - if you're writing a large-scale fantasy series with insane worldbuilding, online web novel platforms might not be the right spot for you, and you might want to consider traditional publishing or self-publishing as an ebook. Both would require some time and research into, but the latter is probably easier and faster, if you're looking to get published as soon as possible. I would say that most web novel platforms tend to have a bit of notoriety, but I wouldn't discount them as they do have easy access for beginner writers. Moreover, most of them now partner with other media platforms, meaning that your work have a chance of being published, and turned into other forms of media like audiobooks, comics and even TV series if it's successful. Do look around the different web novel platforms though. For example, I've seen Tapas having more fantasy/action themed novels (which makes sense, one of their biggest novel-turn-comic is The Beginning After The End). Dreame houses more romance novels, and they assign editors to you after hitting a minimum word count. Both offer some kind of renumeration if you decide to sign your story on their platforms. Try finding writing circles in your region and you might be able to find out more about the different kinds of publishing.
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Do not post your work to wattpad if you aim to earn money with it. If you want to be traditionally published, start querying agents and sending out your work to them. Sending your work to wattpad would mean that lot of agents and publishers would consider your work as published since it can be read on wattpad.
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Has any indie writer out there ever landed a literary agent after self publishing? I've been searching for a literary agent for along time and ended up self publishing anyway. It really feels like people with representation have far more luck in this industry than the rest of us. I was wondering if anyone has or heard of someone landing an agent with a self published novel/story?
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Of course. But don’t get confused about agents... they represent manuscripts more so than authors. At first, that is. It’s not you that can’t get a rep, it’s your manuscript. There ought to be another one worth another shot.
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Yes read the history of Sword Art Online. It's possible to get a publishing deal even if you're new to the game.
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znwth2
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I surprised myself this semester by turning in some short fiction I’m really proud of. How do I keep that momentum now that class is done? I have absolutely no self discipline. I will not write at all, much less anything good, if I don’t have outside accountability. Where can I find that outside of class?
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> I will not write at all, much less anything good, if I don’t have outside accountability. This is your answer. If you need someone to make you write, you won't. Either it's worth it to you to develop discipline, or it's not.
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A writing group with regular meetings is good for this. If you meet every few weeks and have a deadline to turn a story in for critique, it’ll give you the pressure of a deadline. Plus, reading and critiquing others’ stories helps you grow as much as having others read and critique your own. Maybe you could ask other people who had been in your writing class if they wanted to keep meeting in an informal writing group / critique circle? Send an email or something. Conversely, there might be existing groups around your school or community. You could ask around, or search online. Another option for external deadlines is if you’re interested in submitting to time limited magazine and anthology submission windows. Sometimes they come with a theme that can serve as a prompt too.
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znwth2
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writing_train
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I surprised myself this semester by turning in some short fiction I’m really proud of. How do I keep that momentum now that class is done? I have absolutely no self discipline. I will not write at all, much less anything good, if I don’t have outside accountability. Where can I find that outside of class?
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If you want to keep in a groove, find a fanfic Discord that you enjoy and that has regular round-table challenges. This keeps you in the groove of constantly writing in the first place, even if you are working on original stuff. One I’m in is for a game that is actually about choose-your-own-adventure type of books, which means tons of stories and no one “right” canon, which has led to several people writing offshoots that become original fic. We have about monthly smut challenges (smut is hard to write, forces you to a place that feels vulnerable, and since several of us do it in an given month, it builds community and support) and various other challenges, and when you feel camaraderie with others, you want to give back as much as you get, and in this case, that means giving stories. It’s an uncommon way to go about it, but one I’ve found to be incredibly inspiring and has built strong friendships that have become in-person. It’s wonderful.
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> I will not write at all, much less anything good, if I don’t have outside accountability. This is your answer. If you need someone to make you write, you won't. Either it's worth it to you to develop discipline, or it's not.
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znwth2
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writing_train
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I surprised myself this semester by turning in some short fiction I’m really proud of. How do I keep that momentum now that class is done? I have absolutely no self discipline. I will not write at all, much less anything good, if I don’t have outside accountability. Where can I find that outside of class?
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keep writing
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If you want to keep in a groove, find a fanfic Discord that you enjoy and that has regular round-table challenges. This keeps you in the groove of constantly writing in the first place, even if you are working on original stuff. One I’m in is for a game that is actually about choose-your-own-adventure type of books, which means tons of stories and no one “right” canon, which has led to several people writing offshoots that become original fic. We have about monthly smut challenges (smut is hard to write, forces you to a place that feels vulnerable, and since several of us do it in an given month, it builds community and support) and various other challenges, and when you feel camaraderie with others, you want to give back as much as you get, and in this case, that means giving stories. It’s an uncommon way to go about it, but one I’ve found to be incredibly inspiring and has built strong friendships that have become in-person. It’s wonderful.
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Is it ok to have fictional characters say somewhat famous quotes? Like I may want a cynical character to say, "The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth." Or a self reliant character to say, "Down to Gehenna or up to the Throne, He travels the fastest who travels alone." Is this ok? I'm writing a sci-fi manga btw.
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h3ax48h
| 1,624,871,143 | 1,624,871,868 | 1 | 11 |
Go for it. *Sherlock Holmes* is full of quotes and popular Latin phrases. It'll start to feel pretentious really quickly if it looks like an entire conversation was molded just so a quote could be used
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This is what I think: If you made up a world, you should not put a historical quote. i.e. an Einstein quote within Naruto's world would sound so out of place. If your quote is a popular saying non attributed to real characters then it's ok. As long as it makes sense within your fictional world. If the quote is a product of your character own thinking, you should reword it in a way that matches your character style and speaking manners. If your character likes to quote famous people, this behavior must be consistent throughout the whole story, or coherent with his manners and attitude. You may have a dumb brute quoting Socrates but or you do it well, or it just sounds silly.
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xg101y
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Published genre fiction authors: how different is your work from its first draft? I'm close to finishing my first first draft ever (yay!) but I can already see the places where it needs to be fleshed out, character perspectives need to be added, and all kinds of things. I am making myself a laundry list of issues to tackle in my 2nd draft, and it has me a little worried. Am I way off base, or is this really what they mean when they say "your first draft will be bad?"
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iopidh6
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I was watching a YouTube video interview with a film writing college professor. Jurassic Park took over 70 drafts before the finished product...
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It varies, but only about 25-50% of my first draft makes it to the final draft.
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xg101y
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Published genre fiction authors: how different is your work from its first draft? I'm close to finishing my first first draft ever (yay!) but I can already see the places where it needs to be fleshed out, character perspectives need to be added, and all kinds of things. I am making myself a laundry list of issues to tackle in my 2nd draft, and it has me a little worried. Am I way off base, or is this really what they mean when they say "your first draft will be bad?"
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iopz3g6
| 1,663,371,332 | 1,663,364,955 | 7 | 3 |
I'm too wordy so I lose around 30% of my first draft. Even now after all these years I'm repetitive and use 957 words for what another person would use 8 for. I'm a plotter so I know where my story is going. Sometimes my characters decide to be rebellious and change my plans but rarely does my story change. I outline but what works for me are moveable cards. I may change the timeline of events but never the story. However, I write romance so perhaps that's that's vastly different from what you're doing. I also write stand alone series so there's a larger story that weaves in and out of the series. My goodness that sounds absolutely psychotic! Each draft for me primarily rips away another layer of my word vomit until I have a clean, story. Each draft also cleans up my horrendous spelling and redneck grammar. I also add any fine details I've overlooked which is killing me in my military romance series. I usually do three to four drafts in my contemporaries and historicals. Well if I'm fortunate and if my editor has any mercy in her. I never stop to clean up as I write because I'm ADD and if I stop it's like having squirrels dancing across my desk in hula skirts. In other words I'm a big mess and it's a miracle I've ever sold a thing.
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I’m a pantser so my first draft usually isn’t even a full draft, in that there are lots of places where it just says “Insert description here” or “blah blah blah” or similar. By the time my second draft is finished, it’s usually pretty close to what the finished product will be, just because after the first draft is when I dig down with my critique group and decide what big changes I want to make. The exception would be the one book I wrote that was an IP project, and I had to turn in a complete outline first. That first draft was pretty spot on, since I had the outline to follow. Did this make me start outlining all my books to save myself time and effort, no, lol. I still prefer fast-drafting and heavy edits.
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xg101y
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writing_train
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Published genre fiction authors: how different is your work from its first draft? I'm close to finishing my first first draft ever (yay!) but I can already see the places where it needs to be fleshed out, character perspectives need to be added, and all kinds of things. I am making myself a laundry list of issues to tackle in my 2nd draft, and it has me a little worried. Am I way off base, or is this really what they mean when they say "your first draft will be bad?"
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ioqd4z2
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ioqbj6p
| 1,663,371,332 | 1,663,370,559 | 7 | 3 |
I'm too wordy so I lose around 30% of my first draft. Even now after all these years I'm repetitive and use 957 words for what another person would use 8 for. I'm a plotter so I know where my story is going. Sometimes my characters decide to be rebellious and change my plans but rarely does my story change. I outline but what works for me are moveable cards. I may change the timeline of events but never the story. However, I write romance so perhaps that's that's vastly different from what you're doing. I also write stand alone series so there's a larger story that weaves in and out of the series. My goodness that sounds absolutely psychotic! Each draft for me primarily rips away another layer of my word vomit until I have a clean, story. Each draft also cleans up my horrendous spelling and redneck grammar. I also add any fine details I've overlooked which is killing me in my military romance series. I usually do three to four drafts in my contemporaries and historicals. Well if I'm fortunate and if my editor has any mercy in her. I never stop to clean up as I write because I'm ADD and if I stop it's like having squirrels dancing across my desk in hula skirts. In other words I'm a big mess and it's a miracle I've ever sold a thing.
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Very different. First drafts aren’t meant to be anything but garbage. My editors also helped bring out my character arcs etc
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xg101y
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writing_train
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Published genre fiction authors: how different is your work from its first draft? I'm close to finishing my first first draft ever (yay!) but I can already see the places where it needs to be fleshed out, character perspectives need to be added, and all kinds of things. I am making myself a laundry list of issues to tackle in my 2nd draft, and it has me a little worried. Am I way off base, or is this really what they mean when they say "your first draft will be bad?"
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ioqd4z2
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iopvgo5
| 1,663,371,332 | 1,663,363,403 | 7 | 1 |
I'm too wordy so I lose around 30% of my first draft. Even now after all these years I'm repetitive and use 957 words for what another person would use 8 for. I'm a plotter so I know where my story is going. Sometimes my characters decide to be rebellious and change my plans but rarely does my story change. I outline but what works for me are moveable cards. I may change the timeline of events but never the story. However, I write romance so perhaps that's that's vastly different from what you're doing. I also write stand alone series so there's a larger story that weaves in and out of the series. My goodness that sounds absolutely psychotic! Each draft for me primarily rips away another layer of my word vomit until I have a clean, story. Each draft also cleans up my horrendous spelling and redneck grammar. I also add any fine details I've overlooked which is killing me in my military romance series. I usually do three to four drafts in my contemporaries and historicals. Well if I'm fortunate and if my editor has any mercy in her. I never stop to clean up as I write because I'm ADD and if I stop it's like having squirrels dancing across my desk in hula skirts. In other words I'm a big mess and it's a miracle I've ever sold a thing.
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My drafts usually differ only in that typos and other such minor errors are fixed. I write one draft, clean, cycle as I write, and unless a first reader flat out misunderstands something important, that's it.
| 1 | 7,929 | 7 | ||
xg101y
|
writing_train
| 0.89 |
Published genre fiction authors: how different is your work from its first draft? I'm close to finishing my first first draft ever (yay!) but I can already see the places where it needs to be fleshed out, character perspectives need to be added, and all kinds of things. I am making myself a laundry list of issues to tackle in my 2nd draft, and it has me a little worried. Am I way off base, or is this really what they mean when they say "your first draft will be bad?"
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ioq7c2q
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ioqd4z2
| 1,663,368,607 | 1,663,371,332 | 0 | 7 |
Honestly, I send my first draft directly to copy editors and they just catch perspective fuck up stuff and language.
|
I'm too wordy so I lose around 30% of my first draft. Even now after all these years I'm repetitive and use 957 words for what another person would use 8 for. I'm a plotter so I know where my story is going. Sometimes my characters decide to be rebellious and change my plans but rarely does my story change. I outline but what works for me are moveable cards. I may change the timeline of events but never the story. However, I write romance so perhaps that's that's vastly different from what you're doing. I also write stand alone series so there's a larger story that weaves in and out of the series. My goodness that sounds absolutely psychotic! Each draft for me primarily rips away another layer of my word vomit until I have a clean, story. Each draft also cleans up my horrendous spelling and redneck grammar. I also add any fine details I've overlooked which is killing me in my military romance series. I usually do three to four drafts in my contemporaries and historicals. Well if I'm fortunate and if my editor has any mercy in her. I never stop to clean up as I write because I'm ADD and if I stop it's like having squirrels dancing across my desk in hula skirts. In other words I'm a big mess and it's a miracle I've ever sold a thing.
| 0 | 2,725 | 7,000 | ||
xg101y
|
writing_train
| 0.89 |
Published genre fiction authors: how different is your work from its first draft? I'm close to finishing my first first draft ever (yay!) but I can already see the places where it needs to be fleshed out, character perspectives need to be added, and all kinds of things. I am making myself a laundry list of issues to tackle in my 2nd draft, and it has me a little worried. Am I way off base, or is this really what they mean when they say "your first draft will be bad?"
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ioqije9
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iopz3g6
| 1,663,373,931 | 1,663,364,955 | 7 | 3 |
I edit as I go so the the first draft is usually pretty solid. There is always plenty of editing to do, but the major issues have been taken care of and changes are generally cosmetic. This makes writing a very slow process for me, but it's the way I'm comfortable with. 'Your first draft will be bad' is nonsense perpetuated by bad writers, so it shouldn't be taken seriously. Everything until your finished draft is a work in progress and therefore beyond judgement, IMO, so there is no need to be worried. Editing and rewriting are just editing and rewriting. When you gain more experience you will discover the ways and methods that suit you best.
|
I’m a pantser so my first draft usually isn’t even a full draft, in that there are lots of places where it just says “Insert description here” or “blah blah blah” or similar. By the time my second draft is finished, it’s usually pretty close to what the finished product will be, just because after the first draft is when I dig down with my critique group and decide what big changes I want to make. The exception would be the one book I wrote that was an IP project, and I had to turn in a complete outline first. That first draft was pretty spot on, since I had the outline to follow. Did this make me start outlining all my books to save myself time and effort, no, lol. I still prefer fast-drafting and heavy edits.
| 1 | 8,976 | 2.333333 | ||
xg101y
|
writing_train
| 0.89 |
Published genre fiction authors: how different is your work from its first draft? I'm close to finishing my first first draft ever (yay!) but I can already see the places where it needs to be fleshed out, character perspectives need to be added, and all kinds of things. I am making myself a laundry list of issues to tackle in my 2nd draft, and it has me a little worried. Am I way off base, or is this really what they mean when they say "your first draft will be bad?"
|
ioqbj6p
|
ioqije9
| 1,663,370,559 | 1,663,373,931 | 3 | 7 |
Very different. First drafts aren’t meant to be anything but garbage. My editors also helped bring out my character arcs etc
|
I edit as I go so the the first draft is usually pretty solid. There is always plenty of editing to do, but the major issues have been taken care of and changes are generally cosmetic. This makes writing a very slow process for me, but it's the way I'm comfortable with. 'Your first draft will be bad' is nonsense perpetuated by bad writers, so it shouldn't be taken seriously. Everything until your finished draft is a work in progress and therefore beyond judgement, IMO, so there is no need to be worried. Editing and rewriting are just editing and rewriting. When you gain more experience you will discover the ways and methods that suit you best.
| 0 | 3,372 | 2.333333 | ||
xg101y
|
writing_train
| 0.89 |
Published genre fiction authors: how different is your work from its first draft? I'm close to finishing my first first draft ever (yay!) but I can already see the places where it needs to be fleshed out, character perspectives need to be added, and all kinds of things. I am making myself a laundry list of issues to tackle in my 2nd draft, and it has me a little worried. Am I way off base, or is this really what they mean when they say "your first draft will be bad?"
|
iopvgo5
|
ioqije9
| 1,663,363,403 | 1,663,373,931 | 1 | 7 |
My drafts usually differ only in that typos and other such minor errors are fixed. I write one draft, clean, cycle as I write, and unless a first reader flat out misunderstands something important, that's it.
|
I edit as I go so the the first draft is usually pretty solid. There is always plenty of editing to do, but the major issues have been taken care of and changes are generally cosmetic. This makes writing a very slow process for me, but it's the way I'm comfortable with. 'Your first draft will be bad' is nonsense perpetuated by bad writers, so it shouldn't be taken seriously. Everything until your finished draft is a work in progress and therefore beyond judgement, IMO, so there is no need to be worried. Editing and rewriting are just editing and rewriting. When you gain more experience you will discover the ways and methods that suit you best.
| 0 | 10,528 | 7 | ||
xg101y
|
writing_train
| 0.89 |
Published genre fiction authors: how different is your work from its first draft? I'm close to finishing my first first draft ever (yay!) but I can already see the places where it needs to be fleshed out, character perspectives need to be added, and all kinds of things. I am making myself a laundry list of issues to tackle in my 2nd draft, and it has me a little worried. Am I way off base, or is this really what they mean when they say "your first draft will be bad?"
|
ioq7c2q
|
ioqije9
| 1,663,368,607 | 1,663,373,931 | 0 | 7 |
Honestly, I send my first draft directly to copy editors and they just catch perspective fuck up stuff and language.
|
I edit as I go so the the first draft is usually pretty solid. There is always plenty of editing to do, but the major issues have been taken care of and changes are generally cosmetic. This makes writing a very slow process for me, but it's the way I'm comfortable with. 'Your first draft will be bad' is nonsense perpetuated by bad writers, so it shouldn't be taken seriously. Everything until your finished draft is a work in progress and therefore beyond judgement, IMO, so there is no need to be worried. Editing and rewriting are just editing and rewriting. When you gain more experience you will discover the ways and methods that suit you best.
| 0 | 5,324 | 7,000 | ||
xg101y
|
writing_train
| 0.89 |
Published genre fiction authors: how different is your work from its first draft? I'm close to finishing my first first draft ever (yay!) but I can already see the places where it needs to be fleshed out, character perspectives need to be added, and all kinds of things. I am making myself a laundry list of issues to tackle in my 2nd draft, and it has me a little worried. Am I way off base, or is this really what they mean when they say "your first draft will be bad?"
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ior4gfb
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iopz3g6
| 1,663,384,780 | 1,663,364,955 | 6 | 3 |
not an answer to the question but it’s so refreshing to hear how often y’all change what is written between the first and final piece. it makes me feel less shitty about how bad my current first draft is 😂
|
I’m a pantser so my first draft usually isn’t even a full draft, in that there are lots of places where it just says “Insert description here” or “blah blah blah” or similar. By the time my second draft is finished, it’s usually pretty close to what the finished product will be, just because after the first draft is when I dig down with my critique group and decide what big changes I want to make. The exception would be the one book I wrote that was an IP project, and I had to turn in a complete outline first. That first draft was pretty spot on, since I had the outline to follow. Did this make me start outlining all my books to save myself time and effort, no, lol. I still prefer fast-drafting and heavy edits.
| 1 | 19,825 | 2 | ||
xg101y
|
writing_train
| 0.89 |
Published genre fiction authors: how different is your work from its first draft? I'm close to finishing my first first draft ever (yay!) but I can already see the places where it needs to be fleshed out, character perspectives need to be added, and all kinds of things. I am making myself a laundry list of issues to tackle in my 2nd draft, and it has me a little worried. Am I way off base, or is this really what they mean when they say "your first draft will be bad?"
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ioqbj6p
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ior4gfb
| 1,663,370,559 | 1,663,384,780 | 3 | 6 |
Very different. First drafts aren’t meant to be anything but garbage. My editors also helped bring out my character arcs etc
|
not an answer to the question but it’s so refreshing to hear how often y’all change what is written between the first and final piece. it makes me feel less shitty about how bad my current first draft is 😂
| 0 | 14,221 | 2 | ||
xg101y
|
writing_train
| 0.89 |
Published genre fiction authors: how different is your work from its first draft? I'm close to finishing my first first draft ever (yay!) but I can already see the places where it needs to be fleshed out, character perspectives need to be added, and all kinds of things. I am making myself a laundry list of issues to tackle in my 2nd draft, and it has me a little worried. Am I way off base, or is this really what they mean when they say "your first draft will be bad?"
|
ior4gfb
|
iopvgo5
| 1,663,384,780 | 1,663,363,403 | 6 | 1 |
not an answer to the question but it’s so refreshing to hear how often y’all change what is written between the first and final piece. it makes me feel less shitty about how bad my current first draft is 😂
|
My drafts usually differ only in that typos and other such minor errors are fixed. I write one draft, clean, cycle as I write, and unless a first reader flat out misunderstands something important, that's it.
| 1 | 21,377 | 6 | ||
xg101y
|
writing_train
| 0.89 |
Published genre fiction authors: how different is your work from its first draft? I'm close to finishing my first first draft ever (yay!) but I can already see the places where it needs to be fleshed out, character perspectives need to be added, and all kinds of things. I am making myself a laundry list of issues to tackle in my 2nd draft, and it has me a little worried. Am I way off base, or is this really what they mean when they say "your first draft will be bad?"
|
ior4gfb
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ioq7c2q
| 1,663,384,780 | 1,663,368,607 | 6 | 0 |
not an answer to the question but it’s so refreshing to hear how often y’all change what is written between the first and final piece. it makes me feel less shitty about how bad my current first draft is 😂
|
Honestly, I send my first draft directly to copy editors and they just catch perspective fuck up stuff and language.
| 1 | 16,173 | 6,000 | ||
xg101y
|
writing_train
| 0.89 |
Published genre fiction authors: how different is your work from its first draft? I'm close to finishing my first first draft ever (yay!) but I can already see the places where it needs to be fleshed out, character perspectives need to be added, and all kinds of things. I am making myself a laundry list of issues to tackle in my 2nd draft, and it has me a little worried. Am I way off base, or is this really what they mean when they say "your first draft will be bad?"
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ior4gfb
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ioqvj61
| 1,663,384,780 | 1,663,380,214 | 6 | 1 |
not an answer to the question but it’s so refreshing to hear how often y’all change what is written between the first and final piece. it makes me feel less shitty about how bad my current first draft is 😂
|
I changed the front cover and the title of the book after the beta readers came back with those changes. I put in more action sequences about how characters move from one place to another. I asked for a developmental edit to see if there was an opportunity for "Show Don't Tell". That created a supplemental story line.
| 1 | 4,566 | 6 | ||
xg101y
|
writing_train
| 0.89 |
Published genre fiction authors: how different is your work from its first draft? I'm close to finishing my first first draft ever (yay!) but I can already see the places where it needs to be fleshed out, character perspectives need to be added, and all kinds of things. I am making myself a laundry list of issues to tackle in my 2nd draft, and it has me a little worried. Am I way off base, or is this really what they mean when they say "your first draft will be bad?"
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ior3mgh
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ior4gfb
| 1,663,384,333 | 1,663,384,780 | 1 | 6 |
Depends. Usually some added and removed scenes. Tighter sentence structure and better grammar. Filled plot holes.
|
not an answer to the question but it’s so refreshing to hear how often y’all change what is written between the first and final piece. it makes me feel less shitty about how bad my current first draft is 😂
| 0 | 447 | 6 | ||
xg101y
|
writing_train
| 0.89 |
Published genre fiction authors: how different is your work from its first draft? I'm close to finishing my first first draft ever (yay!) but I can already see the places where it needs to be fleshed out, character perspectives need to be added, and all kinds of things. I am making myself a laundry list of issues to tackle in my 2nd draft, and it has me a little worried. Am I way off base, or is this really what they mean when they say "your first draft will be bad?"
|
ios58ei
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iopz3g6
| 1,663,411,024 | 1,663,364,955 | 5 | 3 |
Except for the beginning, middle and end, it's pretty much the same.
|
I’m a pantser so my first draft usually isn’t even a full draft, in that there are lots of places where it just says “Insert description here” or “blah blah blah” or similar. By the time my second draft is finished, it’s usually pretty close to what the finished product will be, just because after the first draft is when I dig down with my critique group and decide what big changes I want to make. The exception would be the one book I wrote that was an IP project, and I had to turn in a complete outline first. That first draft was pretty spot on, since I had the outline to follow. Did this make me start outlining all my books to save myself time and effort, no, lol. I still prefer fast-drafting and heavy edits.
| 1 | 46,069 | 1.666667 | ||
xg101y
|
writing_train
| 0.89 |
Published genre fiction authors: how different is your work from its first draft? I'm close to finishing my first first draft ever (yay!) but I can already see the places where it needs to be fleshed out, character perspectives need to be added, and all kinds of things. I am making myself a laundry list of issues to tackle in my 2nd draft, and it has me a little worried. Am I way off base, or is this really what they mean when they say "your first draft will be bad?"
|
ioqbj6p
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ios58ei
| 1,663,370,559 | 1,663,411,024 | 3 | 5 |
Very different. First drafts aren’t meant to be anything but garbage. My editors also helped bring out my character arcs etc
|
Except for the beginning, middle and end, it's pretty much the same.
| 0 | 40,465 | 1.666667 | ||
xg101y
|
writing_train
| 0.89 |
Published genre fiction authors: how different is your work from its first draft? I'm close to finishing my first first draft ever (yay!) but I can already see the places where it needs to be fleshed out, character perspectives need to be added, and all kinds of things. I am making myself a laundry list of issues to tackle in my 2nd draft, and it has me a little worried. Am I way off base, or is this really what they mean when they say "your first draft will be bad?"
|
iopvgo5
|
ios58ei
| 1,663,363,403 | 1,663,411,024 | 1 | 5 |
My drafts usually differ only in that typos and other such minor errors are fixed. I write one draft, clean, cycle as I write, and unless a first reader flat out misunderstands something important, that's it.
|
Except for the beginning, middle and end, it's pretty much the same.
| 0 | 47,621 | 5 | ||
xg101y
|
writing_train
| 0.89 |
Published genre fiction authors: how different is your work from its first draft? I'm close to finishing my first first draft ever (yay!) but I can already see the places where it needs to be fleshed out, character perspectives need to be added, and all kinds of things. I am making myself a laundry list of issues to tackle in my 2nd draft, and it has me a little worried. Am I way off base, or is this really what they mean when they say "your first draft will be bad?"
|
ioq7c2q
|
ios58ei
| 1,663,368,607 | 1,663,411,024 | 0 | 5 |
Honestly, I send my first draft directly to copy editors and they just catch perspective fuck up stuff and language.
|
Except for the beginning, middle and end, it's pretty much the same.
| 0 | 42,417 | 5,000 | ||
xg101y
|
writing_train
| 0.89 |
Published genre fiction authors: how different is your work from its first draft? I'm close to finishing my first first draft ever (yay!) but I can already see the places where it needs to be fleshed out, character perspectives need to be added, and all kinds of things. I am making myself a laundry list of issues to tackle in my 2nd draft, and it has me a little worried. Am I way off base, or is this really what they mean when they say "your first draft will be bad?"
|
ioqvj61
|
ios58ei
| 1,663,380,214 | 1,663,411,024 | 1 | 5 |
I changed the front cover and the title of the book after the beta readers came back with those changes. I put in more action sequences about how characters move from one place to another. I asked for a developmental edit to see if there was an opportunity for "Show Don't Tell". That created a supplemental story line.
|
Except for the beginning, middle and end, it's pretty much the same.
| 0 | 30,810 | 5 | ||
xg101y
|
writing_train
| 0.89 |
Published genre fiction authors: how different is your work from its first draft? I'm close to finishing my first first draft ever (yay!) but I can already see the places where it needs to be fleshed out, character perspectives need to be added, and all kinds of things. I am making myself a laundry list of issues to tackle in my 2nd draft, and it has me a little worried. Am I way off base, or is this really what they mean when they say "your first draft will be bad?"
|
ios58ei
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ior3mgh
| 1,663,411,024 | 1,663,384,333 | 5 | 1 |
Except for the beginning, middle and end, it's pretty much the same.
|
Depends. Usually some added and removed scenes. Tighter sentence structure and better grammar. Filled plot holes.
| 1 | 26,691 | 5 | ||
xg101y
|
writing_train
| 0.89 |
Published genre fiction authors: how different is your work from its first draft? I'm close to finishing my first first draft ever (yay!) but I can already see the places where it needs to be fleshed out, character perspectives need to be added, and all kinds of things. I am making myself a laundry list of issues to tackle in my 2nd draft, and it has me a little worried. Am I way off base, or is this really what they mean when they say "your first draft will be bad?"
|
ios58ei
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ioroee9
| 1,663,411,024 | 1,663,397,673 | 5 | 1 |
Except for the beginning, middle and end, it's pretty much the same.
|
Congratulations! My end result sometimes has nothing in common besides the plot concept with the original. I don't plan until after the first draft and get the idea out. Then I read it, take notes, and edit (after a break and a short story to give myself distance) I look for characters that don't belong, at different pov that can improve stuff, and for things that don't matter. I do a fresh take and that's what I edit into a polished work
| 1 | 13,351 | 5 | ||
xg101y
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writing_train
| 0.89 |
Published genre fiction authors: how different is your work from its first draft? I'm close to finishing my first first draft ever (yay!) but I can already see the places where it needs to be fleshed out, character perspectives need to be added, and all kinds of things. I am making myself a laundry list of issues to tackle in my 2nd draft, and it has me a little worried. Am I way off base, or is this really what they mean when they say "your first draft will be bad?"
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iorwkqk
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ios58ei
| 1,663,404,189 | 1,663,411,024 | 1 | 5 |
The finished work is much more polished, coherent, and interesting to read.
|
Except for the beginning, middle and end, it's pretty much the same.
| 0 | 6,835 | 5 | ||
xg101y
|
writing_train
| 0.89 |
Published genre fiction authors: how different is your work from its first draft? I'm close to finishing my first first draft ever (yay!) but I can already see the places where it needs to be fleshed out, character perspectives need to be added, and all kinds of things. I am making myself a laundry list of issues to tackle in my 2nd draft, and it has me a little worried. Am I way off base, or is this really what they mean when they say "your first draft will be bad?"
|
iopvgo5
|
iopz3g6
| 1,663,363,403 | 1,663,364,955 | 1 | 3 |
My drafts usually differ only in that typos and other such minor errors are fixed. I write one draft, clean, cycle as I write, and unless a first reader flat out misunderstands something important, that's it.
|
I’m a pantser so my first draft usually isn’t even a full draft, in that there are lots of places where it just says “Insert description here” or “blah blah blah” or similar. By the time my second draft is finished, it’s usually pretty close to what the finished product will be, just because after the first draft is when I dig down with my critique group and decide what big changes I want to make. The exception would be the one book I wrote that was an IP project, and I had to turn in a complete outline first. That first draft was pretty spot on, since I had the outline to follow. Did this make me start outlining all my books to save myself time and effort, no, lol. I still prefer fast-drafting and heavy edits.
| 0 | 1,552 | 3 | ||
xg101y
|
writing_train
| 0.89 |
Published genre fiction authors: how different is your work from its first draft? I'm close to finishing my first first draft ever (yay!) but I can already see the places where it needs to be fleshed out, character perspectives need to be added, and all kinds of things. I am making myself a laundry list of issues to tackle in my 2nd draft, and it has me a little worried. Am I way off base, or is this really what they mean when they say "your first draft will be bad?"
|
iopvgo5
|
ioqbj6p
| 1,663,363,403 | 1,663,370,559 | 1 | 3 |
My drafts usually differ only in that typos and other such minor errors are fixed. I write one draft, clean, cycle as I write, and unless a first reader flat out misunderstands something important, that's it.
|
Very different. First drafts aren’t meant to be anything but garbage. My editors also helped bring out my character arcs etc
| 0 | 7,156 | 3 | ||
xg101y
|
writing_train
| 0.89 |
Published genre fiction authors: how different is your work from its first draft? I'm close to finishing my first first draft ever (yay!) but I can already see the places where it needs to be fleshed out, character perspectives need to be added, and all kinds of things. I am making myself a laundry list of issues to tackle in my 2nd draft, and it has me a little worried. Am I way off base, or is this really what they mean when they say "your first draft will be bad?"
|
ioqbj6p
|
ioq7c2q
| 1,663,370,559 | 1,663,368,607 | 3 | 0 |
Very different. First drafts aren’t meant to be anything but garbage. My editors also helped bring out my character arcs etc
|
Honestly, I send my first draft directly to copy editors and they just catch perspective fuck up stuff and language.
| 1 | 1,952 | 3,000 | ||
xg101y
|
writing_train
| 0.89 |
Published genre fiction authors: how different is your work from its first draft? I'm close to finishing my first first draft ever (yay!) but I can already see the places where it needs to be fleshed out, character perspectives need to be added, and all kinds of things. I am making myself a laundry list of issues to tackle in my 2nd draft, and it has me a little worried. Am I way off base, or is this really what they mean when they say "your first draft will be bad?"
|
ioq7c2q
|
ioqvj61
| 1,663,368,607 | 1,663,380,214 | 0 | 1 |
Honestly, I send my first draft directly to copy editors and they just catch perspective fuck up stuff and language.
|
I changed the front cover and the title of the book after the beta readers came back with those changes. I put in more action sequences about how characters move from one place to another. I asked for a developmental edit to see if there was an opportunity for "Show Don't Tell". That created a supplemental story line.
| 0 | 11,607 | 1,000 | ||
xg101y
|
writing_train
| 0.89 |
Published genre fiction authors: how different is your work from its first draft? I'm close to finishing my first first draft ever (yay!) but I can already see the places where it needs to be fleshed out, character perspectives need to be added, and all kinds of things. I am making myself a laundry list of issues to tackle in my 2nd draft, and it has me a little worried. Am I way off base, or is this really what they mean when they say "your first draft will be bad?"
|
ioq7c2q
|
ior3mgh
| 1,663,368,607 | 1,663,384,333 | 0 | 1 |
Honestly, I send my first draft directly to copy editors and they just catch perspective fuck up stuff and language.
|
Depends. Usually some added and removed scenes. Tighter sentence structure and better grammar. Filled plot holes.
| 0 | 15,726 | 1,000 | ||
xg101y
|
writing_train
| 0.89 |
Published genre fiction authors: how different is your work from its first draft? I'm close to finishing my first first draft ever (yay!) but I can already see the places where it needs to be fleshed out, character perspectives need to be added, and all kinds of things. I am making myself a laundry list of issues to tackle in my 2nd draft, and it has me a little worried. Am I way off base, or is this really what they mean when they say "your first draft will be bad?"
|
ioq7c2q
|
ioroee9
| 1,663,368,607 | 1,663,397,673 | 0 | 1 |
Honestly, I send my first draft directly to copy editors and they just catch perspective fuck up stuff and language.
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Congratulations! My end result sometimes has nothing in common besides the plot concept with the original. I don't plan until after the first draft and get the idea out. Then I read it, take notes, and edit (after a break and a short story to give myself distance) I look for characters that don't belong, at different pov that can improve stuff, and for things that don't matter. I do a fresh take and that's what I edit into a polished work
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xg101y
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Published genre fiction authors: how different is your work from its first draft? I'm close to finishing my first first draft ever (yay!) but I can already see the places where it needs to be fleshed out, character perspectives need to be added, and all kinds of things. I am making myself a laundry list of issues to tackle in my 2nd draft, and it has me a little worried. Am I way off base, or is this really what they mean when they say "your first draft will be bad?"
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iorwkqk
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Honestly, I send my first draft directly to copy editors and they just catch perspective fuck up stuff and language.
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The finished work is much more polished, coherent, and interesting to read.
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xg101y
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writing_train
| 0.89 |
Published genre fiction authors: how different is your work from its first draft? I'm close to finishing my first first draft ever (yay!) but I can already see the places where it needs to be fleshed out, character perspectives need to be added, and all kinds of things. I am making myself a laundry list of issues to tackle in my 2nd draft, and it has me a little worried. Am I way off base, or is this really what they mean when they say "your first draft will be bad?"
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ioschx4
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ioq7c2q
| 1,663,416,109 | 1,663,368,607 | 1 | 0 |
I'm a planner and prior to writing I spent a couple of months outlining the story, looking for themes and developing characters journeys. My final version was pretty similar to the original draft, I only decided to add a couple of scenes to balance the pacing and develop characters motivations better. And of course plenty of line editing to make the story fly. Once it got accepted, I also got a list of specific edits and changes, including growing the story about 5k longer to further balance the pacing and making a couple of changes to swift from one genre to another (think of character's age). So overall I would say the final was 80% of the original story not including line edits.
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Honestly, I send my first draft directly to copy editors and they just catch perspective fuck up stuff and language.
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xg101y
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writing_train
| 0.89 |
Published genre fiction authors: how different is your work from its first draft? I'm close to finishing my first first draft ever (yay!) but I can already see the places where it needs to be fleshed out, character perspectives need to be added, and all kinds of things. I am making myself a laundry list of issues to tackle in my 2nd draft, and it has me a little worried. Am I way off base, or is this really what they mean when they say "your first draft will be bad?"
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ioq7c2q
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ioss71u
| 1,663,368,607 | 1,663,424,296 | 0 | 1 |
Honestly, I send my first draft directly to copy editors and they just catch perspective fuck up stuff and language.
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First draft of the first thing I ever wrote? Never published that, it's hideous and shall remain buried forever. First drafts of the things meant for publication? Not that different from the finished product, if I'm being honest. With MELODY, I started blind and then outlined the rest after I got roughly 20% into the manuscript. I didn't make any structural edits, just line edits and proofreading at the end (though I did multiple passes for each). A manuscript that was supposed to be published by a publisher was slightly different, in that I axed a good 100 pages (roughly 30000 words, I believe, but don't quote me on it) before I ever finished the first draft, so I'll leave it up to you if that counts as a "drastic change". The draft I handed over to the editor though saw barely any changes. No structural edits at all, few line edits, and while it never got to the proofreading stage, I imagine there wouldn't have been a whole lot to fix there, either. I'm a slow drafter, so generally, even my first drafts tend to be fairly clean. Other people write a lot faster, and as a result their drafts are messy and need more work after the fact. I've also heard of the rare unicorns that are fast writers who produce clean first drafts, and I honestly aspire to such greatness, but it is out of my reach for now\^\^ So tl;dr no, your first draft doesn't *have* to be bad, but the more "firsts" you're stacking on top of each other, the more likely it is that it will be.
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xg101y
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writing_train
| 0.89 |
Published genre fiction authors: how different is your work from its first draft? I'm close to finishing my first first draft ever (yay!) but I can already see the places where it needs to be fleshed out, character perspectives need to be added, and all kinds of things. I am making myself a laundry list of issues to tackle in my 2nd draft, and it has me a little worried. Am I way off base, or is this really what they mean when they say "your first draft will be bad?"
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iotgiq8
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ioq7c2q
| 1,663,434,515 | 1,663,368,607 | 1 | 0 |
Oh god I question if I was drunk or high with my first drafts...i have NO idea what I was trying to convey half the time and my edited versions are waaay better. Your writing changes with time and you grow. Trust when I say your first draft is horrible no matter what. Especially if you have drafts from x amount of years ago...(i got a few from 5+ years ago thats been edited and updated and I am also editing my published drafts because I've improved in 2 years)
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Honestly, I send my first draft directly to copy editors and they just catch perspective fuck up stuff and language.
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