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What to do after sending to twenty literary agents and being rejected/ignored? I'm a bit discouraged though that isn't the point if the question. I mean practically. Do you go back and do another edit and resend it? Just keep searching endlessly for new agents to query? Let it rest and move on to other projects until a later date and retry? How long would you wait in that scenario? How long should you wait before re-querying an agent? Any guidance would be great. I honestly think the book is as close to being as good as I can make it without hiring an editor. Thanks.
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There is always the choice to self publish, Amazon has a great self publishing option.
As close as you can make it probably isn't good enough. Have you gotten any outside eyes on it? Critique group, beta readers who aren't your friends and family? Honestly, after twenty tries at an agent, if you've gotten nothing encouraging, I'd shelve it and write the next book. Trying to improve skills, of course. Then write the next, and the next. Always get feedback, keep learning, keep writing. None of this is easy, or involves some sort of miracle that makes your first book the next best thing since sliced bread. It can take years and many books before you write something someone thinks they can sell. And self publishing? Sure. You can try that. If you're willing to learn how to publish, and how to market, and will spend some money. It can be done pretty cheaply, if you have skills, or can get them. But it's no easier and certainly no less heartbreaking to try to sell a book and get no interest, which is the vast majority of stuff thrown up on Amazon daily.
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What to do after sending to twenty literary agents and being rejected/ignored? I'm a bit discouraged though that isn't the point if the question. I mean practically. Do you go back and do another edit and resend it? Just keep searching endlessly for new agents to query? Let it rest and move on to other projects until a later date and retry? How long would you wait in that scenario? How long should you wait before re-querying an agent? Any guidance would be great. I honestly think the book is as close to being as good as I can make it without hiring an editor. Thanks.
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As close as you can make it probably isn't good enough. Have you gotten any outside eyes on it? Critique group, beta readers who aren't your friends and family? Honestly, after twenty tries at an agent, if you've gotten nothing encouraging, I'd shelve it and write the next book. Trying to improve skills, of course. Then write the next, and the next. Always get feedback, keep learning, keep writing. None of this is easy, or involves some sort of miracle that makes your first book the next best thing since sliced bread. It can take years and many books before you write something someone thinks they can sell. And self publishing? Sure. You can try that. If you're willing to learn how to publish, and how to market, and will spend some money. It can be done pretty cheaply, if you have skills, or can get them. But it's no easier and certainly no less heartbreaking to try to sell a book and get no interest, which is the vast majority of stuff thrown up on Amazon daily.
What did the rejections say?
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What to do after sending to twenty literary agents and being rejected/ignored? I'm a bit discouraged though that isn't the point if the question. I mean practically. Do you go back and do another edit and resend it? Just keep searching endlessly for new agents to query? Let it rest and move on to other projects until a later date and retry? How long would you wait in that scenario? How long should you wait before re-querying an agent? Any guidance would be great. I honestly think the book is as close to being as good as I can make it without hiring an editor. Thanks.
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As close as you can make it probably isn't good enough. Have you gotten any outside eyes on it? Critique group, beta readers who aren't your friends and family? Honestly, after twenty tries at an agent, if you've gotten nothing encouraging, I'd shelve it and write the next book. Trying to improve skills, of course. Then write the next, and the next. Always get feedback, keep learning, keep writing. None of this is easy, or involves some sort of miracle that makes your first book the next best thing since sliced bread. It can take years and many books before you write something someone thinks they can sell. And self publishing? Sure. You can try that. If you're willing to learn how to publish, and how to market, and will spend some money. It can be done pretty cheaply, if you have skills, or can get them. But it's no easier and certainly no less heartbreaking to try to sell a book and get no interest, which is the vast majority of stuff thrown up on Amazon daily.
Do self-publishing. The reason I say that, is publishers, agents, and all those others want you to already have a following on social media. Well darn, if you have that, publish and market yourself and keep the profits. That's what I'm trying. Will see how it goes.
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What to do after sending to twenty literary agents and being rejected/ignored? I'm a bit discouraged though that isn't the point if the question. I mean practically. Do you go back and do another edit and resend it? Just keep searching endlessly for new agents to query? Let it rest and move on to other projects until a later date and retry? How long would you wait in that scenario? How long should you wait before re-querying an agent? Any guidance would be great. I honestly think the book is as close to being as good as I can make it without hiring an editor. Thanks.
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As close as you can make it probably isn't good enough. Have you gotten any outside eyes on it? Critique group, beta readers who aren't your friends and family? Honestly, after twenty tries at an agent, if you've gotten nothing encouraging, I'd shelve it and write the next book. Trying to improve skills, of course. Then write the next, and the next. Always get feedback, keep learning, keep writing. None of this is easy, or involves some sort of miracle that makes your first book the next best thing since sliced bread. It can take years and many books before you write something someone thinks they can sell. And self publishing? Sure. You can try that. If you're willing to learn how to publish, and how to market, and will spend some money. It can be done pretty cheaply, if you have skills, or can get them. But it's no easier and certainly no less heartbreaking to try to sell a book and get no interest, which is the vast majority of stuff thrown up on Amazon daily.
Is it your personal opinion that the book is as good as it can be without hiring an editor? Don't work in a vacuum. Are you part of a writing group? Have you gotten feedback from fellow writers? Maybe -- and I understand that this may be hard to hear -- there's a quality problem. It's possible that you're not at fault, maybe there's a glut of queries in the same genre, but the first place I would start is by going back to the manuscript and looking for problems and to see if I'm pitching the best quality product. Get feedback from other writers. Not my gf, friend or family member, other legit writers. That's the entire purpose of writing groups. I know this isn't what you were asking for, but that seems like the place to start.
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What to do after sending to twenty literary agents and being rejected/ignored? I'm a bit discouraged though that isn't the point if the question. I mean practically. Do you go back and do another edit and resend it? Just keep searching endlessly for new agents to query? Let it rest and move on to other projects until a later date and retry? How long would you wait in that scenario? How long should you wait before re-querying an agent? Any guidance would be great. I honestly think the book is as close to being as good as I can make it without hiring an editor. Thanks.
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Push trough. Reassessment. Keep pushing through
Keep sending. The author of the children's book "*Can You Give a Mouse a Cookie*" sent out approximately forty queries before getting an agent. Frank Herbert's *Dune* was rejected twenty times. *A Wrinkle In Time* was rejected twenty-five times. Dick Wimmer, *Irish Wine:* 162 rejections. *Chicken Soup for the Soul:* 144 rejections. Robert Pirsig, *Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance*: 121 rejections. Yet, they eventually all became bestsellers. In other words, you've just scratched the surface. Stay with it.
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What to do after sending to twenty literary agents and being rejected/ignored? I'm a bit discouraged though that isn't the point if the question. I mean practically. Do you go back and do another edit and resend it? Just keep searching endlessly for new agents to query? Let it rest and move on to other projects until a later date and retry? How long would you wait in that scenario? How long should you wait before re-querying an agent? Any guidance would be great. I honestly think the book is as close to being as good as I can make it without hiring an editor. Thanks.
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There is always the choice to self publish, Amazon has a great self publishing option.
Keep sending. The author of the children's book "*Can You Give a Mouse a Cookie*" sent out approximately forty queries before getting an agent. Frank Herbert's *Dune* was rejected twenty times. *A Wrinkle In Time* was rejected twenty-five times. Dick Wimmer, *Irish Wine:* 162 rejections. *Chicken Soup for the Soul:* 144 rejections. Robert Pirsig, *Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance*: 121 rejections. Yet, they eventually all became bestsellers. In other words, you've just scratched the surface. Stay with it.
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What to do after sending to twenty literary agents and being rejected/ignored? I'm a bit discouraged though that isn't the point if the question. I mean practically. Do you go back and do another edit and resend it? Just keep searching endlessly for new agents to query? Let it rest and move on to other projects until a later date and retry? How long would you wait in that scenario? How long should you wait before re-querying an agent? Any guidance would be great. I honestly think the book is as close to being as good as I can make it without hiring an editor. Thanks.
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What did the rejections say?
Keep sending. The author of the children's book "*Can You Give a Mouse a Cookie*" sent out approximately forty queries before getting an agent. Frank Herbert's *Dune* was rejected twenty times. *A Wrinkle In Time* was rejected twenty-five times. Dick Wimmer, *Irish Wine:* 162 rejections. *Chicken Soup for the Soul:* 144 rejections. Robert Pirsig, *Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance*: 121 rejections. Yet, they eventually all became bestsellers. In other words, you've just scratched the surface. Stay with it.
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What to do after sending to twenty literary agents and being rejected/ignored? I'm a bit discouraged though that isn't the point if the question. I mean practically. Do you go back and do another edit and resend it? Just keep searching endlessly for new agents to query? Let it rest and move on to other projects until a later date and retry? How long would you wait in that scenario? How long should you wait before re-querying an agent? Any guidance would be great. I honestly think the book is as close to being as good as I can make it without hiring an editor. Thanks.
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Keep sending. The author of the children's book "*Can You Give a Mouse a Cookie*" sent out approximately forty queries before getting an agent. Frank Herbert's *Dune* was rejected twenty times. *A Wrinkle In Time* was rejected twenty-five times. Dick Wimmer, *Irish Wine:* 162 rejections. *Chicken Soup for the Soul:* 144 rejections. Robert Pirsig, *Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance*: 121 rejections. Yet, they eventually all became bestsellers. In other words, you've just scratched the surface. Stay with it.
Do self-publishing. The reason I say that, is publishers, agents, and all those others want you to already have a following on social media. Well darn, if you have that, publish and market yourself and keep the profits. That's what I'm trying. Will see how it goes.
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What to do after sending to twenty literary agents and being rejected/ignored? I'm a bit discouraged though that isn't the point if the question. I mean practically. Do you go back and do another edit and resend it? Just keep searching endlessly for new agents to query? Let it rest and move on to other projects until a later date and retry? How long would you wait in that scenario? How long should you wait before re-querying an agent? Any guidance would be great. I honestly think the book is as close to being as good as I can make it without hiring an editor. Thanks.
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Keep sending. The author of the children's book "*Can You Give a Mouse a Cookie*" sent out approximately forty queries before getting an agent. Frank Herbert's *Dune* was rejected twenty times. *A Wrinkle In Time* was rejected twenty-five times. Dick Wimmer, *Irish Wine:* 162 rejections. *Chicken Soup for the Soul:* 144 rejections. Robert Pirsig, *Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance*: 121 rejections. Yet, they eventually all became bestsellers. In other words, you've just scratched the surface. Stay with it.
Is it your personal opinion that the book is as good as it can be without hiring an editor? Don't work in a vacuum. Are you part of a writing group? Have you gotten feedback from fellow writers? Maybe -- and I understand that this may be hard to hear -- there's a quality problem. It's possible that you're not at fault, maybe there's a glut of queries in the same genre, but the first place I would start is by going back to the manuscript and looking for problems and to see if I'm pitching the best quality product. Get feedback from other writers. Not my gf, friend or family member, other legit writers. That's the entire purpose of writing groups. I know this isn't what you were asking for, but that seems like the place to start.
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What to do after sending to twenty literary agents and being rejected/ignored? I'm a bit discouraged though that isn't the point if the question. I mean practically. Do you go back and do another edit and resend it? Just keep searching endlessly for new agents to query? Let it rest and move on to other projects until a later date and retry? How long would you wait in that scenario? How long should you wait before re-querying an agent? Any guidance would be great. I honestly think the book is as close to being as good as I can make it without hiring an editor. Thanks.
h96ghvh
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There is always the choice to self publish, Amazon has a great self publishing option.
Is it your personal opinion that the book is as good as it can be without hiring an editor? Don't work in a vacuum. Are you part of a writing group? Have you gotten feedback from fellow writers? Maybe -- and I understand that this may be hard to hear -- there's a quality problem. It's possible that you're not at fault, maybe there's a glut of queries in the same genre, but the first place I would start is by going back to the manuscript and looking for problems and to see if I'm pitching the best quality product. Get feedback from other writers. Not my gf, friend or family member, other legit writers. That's the entire purpose of writing groups. I know this isn't what you were asking for, but that seems like the place to start.
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What to do after sending to twenty literary agents and being rejected/ignored? I'm a bit discouraged though that isn't the point if the question. I mean practically. Do you go back and do another edit and resend it? Just keep searching endlessly for new agents to query? Let it rest and move on to other projects until a later date and retry? How long would you wait in that scenario? How long should you wait before re-querying an agent? Any guidance would be great. I honestly think the book is as close to being as good as I can make it without hiring an editor. Thanks.
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Is it your personal opinion that the book is as good as it can be without hiring an editor? Don't work in a vacuum. Are you part of a writing group? Have you gotten feedback from fellow writers? Maybe -- and I understand that this may be hard to hear -- there's a quality problem. It's possible that you're not at fault, maybe there's a glut of queries in the same genre, but the first place I would start is by going back to the manuscript and looking for problems and to see if I'm pitching the best quality product. Get feedback from other writers. Not my gf, friend or family member, other legit writers. That's the entire purpose of writing groups. I know this isn't what you were asking for, but that seems like the place to start.
What did the rejections say?
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What to do after sending to twenty literary agents and being rejected/ignored? I'm a bit discouraged though that isn't the point if the question. I mean practically. Do you go back and do another edit and resend it? Just keep searching endlessly for new agents to query? Let it rest and move on to other projects until a later date and retry? How long would you wait in that scenario? How long should you wait before re-querying an agent? Any guidance would be great. I honestly think the book is as close to being as good as I can make it without hiring an editor. Thanks.
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Do self-publishing. The reason I say that, is publishers, agents, and all those others want you to already have a following on social media. Well darn, if you have that, publish and market yourself and keep the profits. That's what I'm trying. Will see how it goes.
Is it your personal opinion that the book is as good as it can be without hiring an editor? Don't work in a vacuum. Are you part of a writing group? Have you gotten feedback from fellow writers? Maybe -- and I understand that this may be hard to hear -- there's a quality problem. It's possible that you're not at fault, maybe there's a glut of queries in the same genre, but the first place I would start is by going back to the manuscript and looking for problems and to see if I'm pitching the best quality product. Get feedback from other writers. Not my gf, friend or family member, other legit writers. That's the entire purpose of writing groups. I know this isn't what you were asking for, but that seems like the place to start.
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How much does a literary agent cost? I finished my first book and I’m trying to get my budget ready for the traditional publishing process. How much is reasonable for a literary agent to charge? Is it a flat fee or hourly? How much do you end up pay the agent throughout the process?
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I'm so confused by the army of people here saying 10% is the standard commission percentage for agents. Are you all not in the US or something?! It's 15%. Bog standard for literary agents in North America... never seen lower. Bizarre. Money ALWAYS flows to the author. Your agent isn't paid until you are paid. They earn 15% standard commission on domestic sales, both on your advance and all your royalties. For subrights including film/TV and foreign, the standard percentage varies from 20% to 25% or even 30% at some agencies (depends on co-agency split). Never pay a publisher to publish. That's vanity publishing/a scam. Money always flows to the author. Worth saying twice.
You might want to go to r/PubTips and read through that sub for a while. Do your research! Otherwise you'll get caught by fee-charging scammers. The process of querying an agent is a lot more involved than you'd think, but r/PubTips has all the info you need. Oh, and while you're at it https://writerbeware.blog/ Writer Beware explains all the common scams, read through that too! There are a lot of pitfalls to avoid.
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How much does a literary agent cost? I finished my first book and I’m trying to get my budget ready for the traditional publishing process. How much is reasonable for a literary agent to charge? Is it a flat fee or hourly? How much do you end up pay the agent throughout the process?
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I'm so confused by the army of people here saying 10% is the standard commission percentage for agents. Are you all not in the US or something?! It's 15%. Bog standard for literary agents in North America... never seen lower. Bizarre. Money ALWAYS flows to the author. Your agent isn't paid until you are paid. They earn 15% standard commission on domestic sales, both on your advance and all your royalties. For subrights including film/TV and foreign, the standard percentage varies from 20% to 25% or even 30% at some agencies (depends on co-agency split). Never pay a publisher to publish. That's vanity publishing/a scam. Money always flows to the author. Worth saying twice.
usually the agent gets ~10% of your income. this way they're incentivized to get the best possible deals for you. you get paid more, they get paid more.
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How much does a literary agent cost? I finished my first book and I’m trying to get my budget ready for the traditional publishing process. How much is reasonable for a literary agent to charge? Is it a flat fee or hourly? How much do you end up pay the agent throughout the process?
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You might want to go to r/PubTips and read through that sub for a while. Do your research! Otherwise you'll get caught by fee-charging scammers. The process of querying an agent is a lot more involved than you'd think, but r/PubTips has all the info you need. Oh, and while you're at it https://writerbeware.blog/ Writer Beware explains all the common scams, read through that too! There are a lot of pitfalls to avoid.
usually the agent gets ~10% of your income. this way they're incentivized to get the best possible deals for you. you get paid more, they get paid more.
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How much does a literary agent cost? I finished my first book and I’m trying to get my budget ready for the traditional publishing process. How much is reasonable for a literary agent to charge? Is it a flat fee or hourly? How much do you end up pay the agent throughout the process?
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£0.00 If anyone is asking you for money to publish your work, walk away. They are a scam or vanity publishers. Agents get money by selling your work on
They get a cut of your paychecks. I think my mom's got 10%. If they want up front pay, run like hell.
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How much does a literary agent cost? I finished my first book and I’m trying to get my budget ready for the traditional publishing process. How much is reasonable for a literary agent to charge? Is it a flat fee or hourly? How much do you end up pay the agent throughout the process?
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£0.00 If anyone is asking you for money to publish your work, walk away. They are a scam or vanity publishers. Agents get money by selling your work on
Agents earn when they sell your work. End of sentence.
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How much does a literary agent cost? I finished my first book and I’m trying to get my budget ready for the traditional publishing process. How much is reasonable for a literary agent to charge? Is it a flat fee or hourly? How much do you end up pay the agent throughout the process?
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£0.00 If anyone is asking you for money to publish your work, walk away. They are a scam or vanity publishers. Agents get money by selling your work on
15%, generally
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What kind of literary agent scams have you come across? I always see online “watch out for agent scams” but what exactly is an agent scam? What are you looking for when querying agents?
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I could be wrong here, but any agent who asks you to pay them to promote your work is a scam, since agents only get paid the commission when your work is picked up by publishers.
1) Pay for play: They charge you fees to do their job. Agents work on a percentage basis, you shouldn't be cash out of pocket. 2) Lock in and ransom: Get exclusive rights to represent work, for an unreasonable amount of time. Contract specifies no need for benchmarks or progress. Then sit on it, do nothing. Force author to pay via an escape clause to get rights back. 3) Funneling: Agent works exclusively with publishers who also do variations of #1 & #2 above, gets kickback. 4) Revenue misrepresentation or withholding: Agent modifies sales reports, publisher reports, etc. They make it look like many less copies of the book have been sold and pocket the difference. 5) Reject and translate: Reject all submissions and translate most promising ones for other markets. Unlikely to get caught unless author has multilingual rights company on hire.
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Need a literary agent but i’m foreign As the title explains, I am brazilian and interested in publishing my book in US (as I know people will ask why, in my country the literature is not too valued and just 1% of the authors gain enough money to survive). I’m already translating and I plan to show the version in english. Do you guys think an agent would accept to represents me or there is restrictions? (Note: I still live in south america) Also, if it doesnt bother, can you give me free sites to find them?
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That shouldn't be an issue. Most agents in the US are willing to represent clients from other countries. If you're concerned, you could always check the agent's policy on foreign clients, or look at information on the agency's website. If you can't find that information for a certain agent or agency, just assume they will consider you. The worst that happens is they reject your query. You can use querytracker to find agents that represent work in your specific genre.
> just 1% of the authors gain enough money to survive That's probably more than in the US. Generally, your nationality is not important (unless you're from Iran or China or something), but your English skills are. How professional is your translation?
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Need a literary agent but i’m foreign As the title explains, I am brazilian and interested in publishing my book in US (as I know people will ask why, in my country the literature is not too valued and just 1% of the authors gain enough money to survive). I’m already translating and I plan to show the version in english. Do you guys think an agent would accept to represents me or there is restrictions? (Note: I still live in south america) Also, if it doesnt bother, can you give me free sites to find them?
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> just 1% of the authors gain enough money to survive That's probably more than in the US. Generally, your nationality is not important (unless you're from Iran or China or something), but your English skills are. How professional is your translation?
If they think they can sell your manuscript then they will take you on. Where you live matters little.
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Need a literary agent but i’m foreign As the title explains, I am brazilian and interested in publishing my book in US (as I know people will ask why, in my country the literature is not too valued and just 1% of the authors gain enough money to survive). I’m already translating and I plan to show the version in english. Do you guys think an agent would accept to represents me or there is restrictions? (Note: I still live in south america) Also, if it doesnt bother, can you give me free sites to find them?
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That shouldn't be an issue. Most agents in the US are willing to represent clients from other countries. If you're concerned, you could always check the agent's policy on foreign clients, or look at information on the agency's website. If you can't find that information for a certain agent or agency, just assume they will consider you. The worst that happens is they reject your query. You can use querytracker to find agents that represent work in your specific genre.
Most agents take foreign clients. The biggest thing is that you don't only have to write at a fluent level. You need to write at a fluent *professional* level, since you'll be trying to beat out a bunch of native speakers who already can't find agents in the US. As another poster said, 1% of authors making a career out of it is likely high for the US. The bulk of even publisher authors do it on the side of another full time or part time job.
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Need a literary agent but i’m foreign As the title explains, I am brazilian and interested in publishing my book in US (as I know people will ask why, in my country the literature is not too valued and just 1% of the authors gain enough money to survive). I’m already translating and I plan to show the version in english. Do you guys think an agent would accept to represents me or there is restrictions? (Note: I still live in south america) Also, if it doesnt bother, can you give me free sites to find them?
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If they think they can sell your manuscript then they will take you on. Where you live matters little.
Most agents take foreign clients. The biggest thing is that you don't only have to write at a fluent level. You need to write at a fluent *professional* level, since you'll be trying to beat out a bunch of native speakers who already can't find agents in the US. As another poster said, 1% of authors making a career out of it is likely high for the US. The bulk of even publisher authors do it on the side of another full time or part time job.
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Need a literary agent but i’m foreign As the title explains, I am brazilian and interested in publishing my book in US (as I know people will ask why, in my country the literature is not too valued and just 1% of the authors gain enough money to survive). I’m already translating and I plan to show the version in english. Do you guys think an agent would accept to represents me or there is restrictions? (Note: I still live in south america) Also, if it doesnt bother, can you give me free sites to find them?
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1% of authors in most places struggle to survive on writing income. Most people would have other income streams. With the glut of free content out there, it's a sad fact that you need to convince people to pay for your work. Assuming you're competitive in English with native speakers, however, there are no restrictions to where you can query.
If they think they can sell your manuscript then they will take you on. Where you live matters little.
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Need a literary agent but i’m foreign As the title explains, I am brazilian and interested in publishing my book in US (as I know people will ask why, in my country the literature is not too valued and just 1% of the authors gain enough money to survive). I’m already translating and I plan to show the version in english. Do you guys think an agent would accept to represents me or there is restrictions? (Note: I still live in south america) Also, if it doesnt bother, can you give me free sites to find them?
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Go on Manuscript Wish List.
1% of authors in most places struggle to survive on writing income. Most people would have other income streams. With the glut of free content out there, it's a sad fact that you need to convince people to pay for your work. Assuming you're competitive in English with native speakers, however, there are no restrictions to where you can query.
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Need a literary agent but i’m foreign As the title explains, I am brazilian and interested in publishing my book in US (as I know people will ask why, in my country the literature is not too valued and just 1% of the authors gain enough money to survive). I’m already translating and I plan to show the version in english. Do you guys think an agent would accept to represents me or there is restrictions? (Note: I still live in south america) Also, if it doesnt bother, can you give me free sites to find them?
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My friend is Brazilian and living in Brazil! She is agented with a US agent and her book came out in August. :) Good websites for agent searches are Manuscript Wishlist (as someone mentioned) and Query Tracker.
If they think they can sell your manuscript then they will take you on. Where you live matters little.
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Need a literary agent but i’m foreign As the title explains, I am brazilian and interested in publishing my book in US (as I know people will ask why, in my country the literature is not too valued and just 1% of the authors gain enough money to survive). I’m already translating and I plan to show the version in english. Do you guys think an agent would accept to represents me or there is restrictions? (Note: I still live in south america) Also, if it doesnt bother, can you give me free sites to find them?
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My friend is Brazilian and living in Brazil! She is agented with a US agent and her book came out in August. :) Good websites for agent searches are Manuscript Wishlist (as someone mentioned) and Query Tracker.
About that percentage or less make enough in the US to survive too. Shouldn't stop you from writing. Write because you love it, not because you are demanding your creativity support you.
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Need a literary agent but i’m foreign As the title explains, I am brazilian and interested in publishing my book in US (as I know people will ask why, in my country the literature is not too valued and just 1% of the authors gain enough money to survive). I’m already translating and I plan to show the version in english. Do you guys think an agent would accept to represents me or there is restrictions? (Note: I still live in south america) Also, if it doesnt bother, can you give me free sites to find them?
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É foda ser brasileiro
My friend is Brazilian and living in Brazil! She is agented with a US agent and her book came out in August. :) Good websites for agent searches are Manuscript Wishlist (as someone mentioned) and Query Tracker.
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Need a literary agent but i’m foreign As the title explains, I am brazilian and interested in publishing my book in US (as I know people will ask why, in my country the literature is not too valued and just 1% of the authors gain enough money to survive). I’m already translating and I plan to show the version in english. Do you guys think an agent would accept to represents me or there is restrictions? (Note: I still live in south america) Also, if it doesnt bother, can you give me free sites to find them?
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My friend is Brazilian and living in Brazil! She is agented with a US agent and her book came out in August. :) Good websites for agent searches are Manuscript Wishlist (as someone mentioned) and Query Tracker.
Go on Manuscript Wish List.
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Need a literary agent but i’m foreign As the title explains, I am brazilian and interested in publishing my book in US (as I know people will ask why, in my country the literature is not too valued and just 1% of the authors gain enough money to survive). I’m already translating and I plan to show the version in english. Do you guys think an agent would accept to represents me or there is restrictions? (Note: I still live in south america) Also, if it doesnt bother, can you give me free sites to find them?
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About that percentage or less make enough in the US to survive too. Shouldn't stop you from writing. Write because you love it, not because you are demanding your creativity support you.
Go on Manuscript Wish List.
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Need a literary agent but i’m foreign As the title explains, I am brazilian and interested in publishing my book in US (as I know people will ask why, in my country the literature is not too valued and just 1% of the authors gain enough money to survive). I’m already translating and I plan to show the version in english. Do you guys think an agent would accept to represents me or there is restrictions? (Note: I still live in south america) Also, if it doesnt bother, can you give me free sites to find them?
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Go on Manuscript Wish List.
É foda ser brasileiro
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Have an idea for a children’s book but never actually written a book before. Any advice? Hey there. Always been a fan of this sub, never posted, but need some advice. I’m a new dad with a writing background originally in journalism now in marketing and advertising. I’ve written articles, scripts, essays, even some short stories. However I’ve never written a book, let alone a children’s book. Any advice or resources to share for how to write a children’s book would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
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Write it.
Fill in the blanks and I'll recommend some agents.... V\_N\_T\_ \_RO\_E\_T
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Have an idea for a children’s book but never actually written a book before. Any advice? Hey there. Always been a fan of this sub, never posted, but need some advice. I’m a new dad with a writing background originally in journalism now in marketing and advertising. I’ve written articles, scripts, essays, even some short stories. However I’ve never written a book, let alone a children’s book. Any advice or resources to share for how to write a children’s book would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
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Fill in the blanks and I'll recommend some agents.... V\_N\_T\_ \_RO\_E\_T
Honestly mate you’re more qualified than most of the people in this sub. Just read kids books, go to the children’s section in libraries. Make up some shit on the spot for your friends kids and see if they’re into it etc. best kids books are low key for grown ups but accessible to children. Choose one stupidly pretentious long word and that’s your one stupidly pretentious one word to use, you get no others.
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Have an idea for a children’s book but never actually written a book before. Any advice? Hey there. Always been a fan of this sub, never posted, but need some advice. I’m a new dad with a writing background originally in journalism now in marketing and advertising. I’ve written articles, scripts, essays, even some short stories. However I’ve never written a book, let alone a children’s book. Any advice or resources to share for how to write a children’s book would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
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Fill in the blanks and I'll recommend some agents.... V\_N\_T\_ \_RO\_E\_T
Hey there! I would begin reading as many series (or standalone) children’s novels as possible so you can see what the market is like. Also what genre and exact age group are you wanting to write? Middle grade? Or chapter books or picture books? Narrow down where you want to write and then read widely in that genre/age category so you can understand the structure of a marketable story. Also jot down your ideas in notebooks, PowerPoints, etc. so you can formulate your ideas once you begin writing. Happy writing!
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Have an idea for a children’s book but never actually written a book before. Any advice? Hey there. Always been a fan of this sub, never posted, but need some advice. I’m a new dad with a writing background originally in journalism now in marketing and advertising. I’ve written articles, scripts, essays, even some short stories. However I’ve never written a book, let alone a children’s book. Any advice or resources to share for how to write a children’s book would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
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What age and product are you thinking? Baby books, picture books, emerging reader, primers, chapter books, middle grade, young adult? There are many different ones with different development considerations. SCBWI is a great resource. It's in the states. Something to consider is if you want to write a baby book, now is the time. If you want to write a middle grade or young adult novel, now is the time because it may take 10 or 20 years. Hehehe.
Fill in the blanks and I'll recommend some agents.... V\_N\_T\_ \_RO\_E\_T
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Have an idea for a children’s book but never actually written a book before. Any advice? Hey there. Always been a fan of this sub, never posted, but need some advice. I’m a new dad with a writing background originally in journalism now in marketing and advertising. I’ve written articles, scripts, essays, even some short stories. However I’ve never written a book, let alone a children’s book. Any advice or resources to share for how to write a children’s book would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
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Fill in the blanks and I'll recommend some agents.... V\_N\_T\_ \_RO\_E\_T
Here’s a free children’s book writing challenge you might find helpful: https://www.allthingspicturebooks.com/evergreen
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Advice for sticking to one idea I usually get an idea to write about and I start but after a while, mostly around 8,000 words, I lose interest or start to think of a new idea to write about so I give up on my old one. Is there anyway to stick to a story?
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You’ll need to find out why you are losing interest. Spend a few thousand words exploring the topic through a journal, and your subconscious might surprise you with an answer.
You just have to force yourself to stick with it and finish it even though you've lost interest. I hope it helps to realize that it's a very common experience for almost all writers. :) Keep reminding yourself that if your goal is to be a writer, you've got to finish what you start.
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Advice for sticking to one idea I usually get an idea to write about and I start but after a while, mostly around 8,000 words, I lose interest or start to think of a new idea to write about so I give up on my old one. Is there anyway to stick to a story?
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You’ll need to find out why you are losing interest. Spend a few thousand words exploring the topic through a journal, and your subconscious might surprise you with an answer.
If you want to get published or put your work out in the world, then raise the stakes. Have a concrete motivation and specific deadline: entering your story in a contest, querying agents, or even just having something to show an interested friend. Once it's finished, you can try loads of different things with it, so it doesn't matter if you don't win the contest, get rejected by the agent, etc. On the other hand, if writing is a hobby you enjoy and you don't want to put it out in the world, then don't worry about abandoning your ideas and starting new ones. As long as you're enjoying yourself, it doesn't matter if you never finish.
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Advice for sticking to one idea I usually get an idea to write about and I start but after a while, mostly around 8,000 words, I lose interest or start to think of a new idea to write about so I give up on my old one. Is there anyway to stick to a story?
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Maybe give those new ideas a bit of your time by writing them down in a “future story ideas” notebook. I always find that writing things down gets them out of my head and stops them from distracting me. Don’t give over your attention to them by abandoning a current project, just get them out of your brain.
You’ll need to find out why you are losing interest. Spend a few thousand words exploring the topic through a journal, and your subconscious might surprise you with an answer.
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Advice for sticking to one idea I usually get an idea to write about and I start but after a while, mostly around 8,000 words, I lose interest or start to think of a new idea to write about so I give up on my old one. Is there anyway to stick to a story?
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I try to work my new ideas into the story I'm currently writing, (unless they don't fit the story at all.) maybe try that?
Try writing the end of that particular story. If you don’t have an end in mind, figure out what the end would be. Then you can plan for getting from point A (beginning up to where you stopped writing) to point B (end). You may find that once you know where the end leads to, you want to see the journey to that end.
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Advice for sticking to one idea I usually get an idea to write about and I start but after a while, mostly around 8,000 words, I lose interest or start to think of a new idea to write about so I give up on my old one. Is there anyway to stick to a story?
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Try writing the end of that particular story. If you don’t have an end in mind, figure out what the end would be. Then you can plan for getting from point A (beginning up to where you stopped writing) to point B (end). You may find that once you know where the end leads to, you want to see the journey to that end.
think about it for a while before you start.
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If my story is about my protagonist being forced into taking on a monumental task where they can't pursue what they actually want, would it be a good idea structurally if at the midpoint they discover a way to pursue that want? (As in we're introduced to the protagonist, who wants something, but then the inciting incident of the story involves them being forced to take on this monumental task unrelated to that.) It's one of those stories where someone wants something that ends up being bad for them, and the thing they're forced to do (that's the focus of the story) ends up being what they needed all along. I've seen stories like this, but what I'm stuck on is the fact that here, throughout the first half of the story my protagonist has no hope of pursuing their original goal, because it's too much struggle just to deal with the task they've been forced into doing. But since I still want the story to ultimately be about the misguided want VS need, I was thinking at the midpoint they discover a way they can do the big task and pursue their original goal at the same time. Then near the end, the protagonist gets what they always wanted, but it turns out to be a letdown, and it then causes a huge problem with their main task, so the protagonist has to hurry to fix everything. After that, they realize the task they were forced to do is actually what they needed all along. Does this sound like a decent structure?
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Good set up with spicy twist. I like
Sounds like a perfect set up. Have seen this many times in romantic plots rather than tasks as you’ve indicated. But the romantic subplot gives you a great blueprint for the ‘ah ha’ moment. The character just has an epiphany moment of ‘nope’ and returns to the first task...In Richard Curtis films they normally have to sprint through an airport. Don’t make it too much of a mess before the return otherwise they’ll be forced into action and become passive. Make it an active choice. Like throwing your napkin down and saying ‘I’m Sorry I can’t do this...’ and heading off to find Hugh Grant or Colin Firth. :o)
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If my story is about my protagonist being forced into taking on a monumental task where they can't pursue what they actually want, would it be a good idea structurally if at the midpoint they discover a way to pursue that want? (As in we're introduced to the protagonist, who wants something, but then the inciting incident of the story involves them being forced to take on this monumental task unrelated to that.) It's one of those stories where someone wants something that ends up being bad for them, and the thing they're forced to do (that's the focus of the story) ends up being what they needed all along. I've seen stories like this, but what I'm stuck on is the fact that here, throughout the first half of the story my protagonist has no hope of pursuing their original goal, because it's too much struggle just to deal with the task they've been forced into doing. But since I still want the story to ultimately be about the misguided want VS need, I was thinking at the midpoint they discover a way they can do the big task and pursue their original goal at the same time. Then near the end, the protagonist gets what they always wanted, but it turns out to be a letdown, and it then causes a huge problem with their main task, so the protagonist has to hurry to fix everything. After that, they realize the task they were forced to do is actually what they needed all along. Does this sound like a decent structure?
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You just described Save The Cat plot beats. The hero has something they want but they're thrown into a new world where they misguidedly keep trailing after it rather than realising it's what they need. They spend the first half or more of the novel struggling and trying to fix the situation the wrong way and around 80-90% of the novel, they finally take the plunge into what they need. I advise you to read Save The Cat Writes a Novel by Jessica Brody. Sounds like you're intuitively following it and maybe reading it would shed some more light and consistency into it.
Nice
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If my story is about my protagonist being forced into taking on a monumental task where they can't pursue what they actually want, would it be a good idea structurally if at the midpoint they discover a way to pursue that want? (As in we're introduced to the protagonist, who wants something, but then the inciting incident of the story involves them being forced to take on this monumental task unrelated to that.) It's one of those stories where someone wants something that ends up being bad for them, and the thing they're forced to do (that's the focus of the story) ends up being what they needed all along. I've seen stories like this, but what I'm stuck on is the fact that here, throughout the first half of the story my protagonist has no hope of pursuing their original goal, because it's too much struggle just to deal with the task they've been forced into doing. But since I still want the story to ultimately be about the misguided want VS need, I was thinking at the midpoint they discover a way they can do the big task and pursue their original goal at the same time. Then near the end, the protagonist gets what they always wanted, but it turns out to be a letdown, and it then causes a huge problem with their main task, so the protagonist has to hurry to fix everything. After that, they realize the task they were forced to do is actually what they needed all along. Does this sound like a decent structure?
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I just watched Sound of Metal and it does this pitch perfectly - only the want is achieved a bit more towards the end of the story and not so much smack in the middle. Allowing your character to backslide into their want when the need is right in front of them is a great way to build tension. I would suggest giving it a watch and dissecting why it works.
You just described Save The Cat plot beats. The hero has something they want but they're thrown into a new world where they misguidedly keep trailing after it rather than realising it's what they need. They spend the first half or more of the novel struggling and trying to fix the situation the wrong way and around 80-90% of the novel, they finally take the plunge into what they need. I advise you to read Save The Cat Writes a Novel by Jessica Brody. Sounds like you're intuitively following it and maybe reading it would shed some more light and consistency into it.
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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Research. Go out to public places and listen to how people talk differently to each other. Kids and teens say different things in different ways than grandpa. A rich socialite will speak differently than someone working 2 jobs just to get by. People from different towns, neighborhoods, states, countries will speak differently. Personalities change how someone speaks as well. Listen, take notes, and listen more. Read good literature with different voices in dialogue. Learn how to use strong action tags. They can mix up the repeating said and also give context emotionally of what characters are feeling/doing. Just don't go too heavy on them either, you don't want too much of a good thing. So balance is key, and you're going to find that by practicing writing, getting beta readers to look at it, and by reading good books with good dialogue.
You can extend action tags beyond "he said/she said". Give your characters action during dialogue (eg. walking, preparing food, gathering notes, performing a routine, etc.). You can also use action tags to describe your main character's reactions to what is happening in the scene. Action tags can be short (eg. Joe scoffed. "Sure."), but they can also be long (eg. Joe put down his book and rolled his eyes. "Sure."). They can also be placed before or after dialogue (eg. "Sure." Joe snapped his book shut.). In all instances it is clear that Joe is speaking. Using longer, more descriptive, well-motivated action tags can help replace long strings of "said Joe", and you get the benefit of fleshing out your characters. It can also be helpful to understand the geography of a scene with multiple characters all delivering dialogue. Don't be afraid to use character names instead of pronouns; correct sentence structure should make it clear when you can get away with pronouns instead of proper nouns (eg. "He grabbed his arm." versus "He grabbed Joe's arm."). I don't really have any advice for understanding how to write different styles of speech, but (as a reader) please do not try to phoneticize accents. I think that watching movies and television is actually superior to books when researching dialogue because it's easier to hear when it feels fake. Edit: Also make sure you're using line breaks correctly for dialogue. A new character speaking starts a new paragraph.
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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You can extend action tags beyond "he said/she said". Give your characters action during dialogue (eg. walking, preparing food, gathering notes, performing a routine, etc.). You can also use action tags to describe your main character's reactions to what is happening in the scene. Action tags can be short (eg. Joe scoffed. "Sure."), but they can also be long (eg. Joe put down his book and rolled his eyes. "Sure."). They can also be placed before or after dialogue (eg. "Sure." Joe snapped his book shut.). In all instances it is clear that Joe is speaking. Using longer, more descriptive, well-motivated action tags can help replace long strings of "said Joe", and you get the benefit of fleshing out your characters. It can also be helpful to understand the geography of a scene with multiple characters all delivering dialogue. Don't be afraid to use character names instead of pronouns; correct sentence structure should make it clear when you can get away with pronouns instead of proper nouns (eg. "He grabbed his arm." versus "He grabbed Joe's arm."). I don't really have any advice for understanding how to write different styles of speech, but (as a reader) please do not try to phoneticize accents. I think that watching movies and television is actually superior to books when researching dialogue because it's easier to hear when it feels fake. Edit: Also make sure you're using line breaks correctly for dialogue. A new character speaking starts a new paragraph.
A simple way is that speaker does not and will not use contractions. Pick 5-7 words no other character will use but have that speaker use them once a conversation.
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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You can extend action tags beyond "he said/she said". Give your characters action during dialogue (eg. walking, preparing food, gathering notes, performing a routine, etc.). You can also use action tags to describe your main character's reactions to what is happening in the scene. Action tags can be short (eg. Joe scoffed. "Sure."), but they can also be long (eg. Joe put down his book and rolled his eyes. "Sure."). They can also be placed before or after dialogue (eg. "Sure." Joe snapped his book shut.). In all instances it is clear that Joe is speaking. Using longer, more descriptive, well-motivated action tags can help replace long strings of "said Joe", and you get the benefit of fleshing out your characters. It can also be helpful to understand the geography of a scene with multiple characters all delivering dialogue. Don't be afraid to use character names instead of pronouns; correct sentence structure should make it clear when you can get away with pronouns instead of proper nouns (eg. "He grabbed his arm." versus "He grabbed Joe's arm."). I don't really have any advice for understanding how to write different styles of speech, but (as a reader) please do not try to phoneticize accents. I think that watching movies and television is actually superior to books when researching dialogue because it's easier to hear when it feels fake. Edit: Also make sure you're using line breaks correctly for dialogue. A new character speaking starts a new paragraph.
You could try having certain characters use unique verbalisations/slang. Otherwise I think it's a good idea to make use of alternatives to 'he said/she said' such as '\_\_\_ agreed/nodded/questioned/'. Adjectives also work well here, where you highlight characters' tone of voice (\_\_\_shouted/whispered/grumbled'
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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Well, first thing to come is age. I watched a few movies and noticed somethings incredibly interesting. During my research (you can say the source is a solid trust me bro and you wouldn't be wrong.) I found out that as you get older, your way of talking becomes older as well. This is not to say that a 70 yr from 1850's way of talking is exactly the same as ones of a 70yr from 1950. But compared to the younger ways of speech of their time they're different. The other thing to remember is how that person usually is. A calm person's aggressive response would be different from an aggressive person's aggressive response. Also, add a bit charecteristics. And play as those charecters in real life yourself. ##Too Long To Read: #Feel your charecters!
You can extend action tags beyond "he said/she said". Give your characters action during dialogue (eg. walking, preparing food, gathering notes, performing a routine, etc.). You can also use action tags to describe your main character's reactions to what is happening in the scene. Action tags can be short (eg. Joe scoffed. "Sure."), but they can also be long (eg. Joe put down his book and rolled his eyes. "Sure."). They can also be placed before or after dialogue (eg. "Sure." Joe snapped his book shut.). In all instances it is clear that Joe is speaking. Using longer, more descriptive, well-motivated action tags can help replace long strings of "said Joe", and you get the benefit of fleshing out your characters. It can also be helpful to understand the geography of a scene with multiple characters all delivering dialogue. Don't be afraid to use character names instead of pronouns; correct sentence structure should make it clear when you can get away with pronouns instead of proper nouns (eg. "He grabbed his arm." versus "He grabbed Joe's arm."). I don't really have any advice for understanding how to write different styles of speech, but (as a reader) please do not try to phoneticize accents. I think that watching movies and television is actually superior to books when researching dialogue because it's easier to hear when it feels fake. Edit: Also make sure you're using line breaks correctly for dialogue. A new character speaking starts a new paragraph.
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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You can extend action tags beyond "he said/she said". Give your characters action during dialogue (eg. walking, preparing food, gathering notes, performing a routine, etc.). You can also use action tags to describe your main character's reactions to what is happening in the scene. Action tags can be short (eg. Joe scoffed. "Sure."), but they can also be long (eg. Joe put down his book and rolled his eyes. "Sure."). They can also be placed before or after dialogue (eg. "Sure." Joe snapped his book shut.). In all instances it is clear that Joe is speaking. Using longer, more descriptive, well-motivated action tags can help replace long strings of "said Joe", and you get the benefit of fleshing out your characters. It can also be helpful to understand the geography of a scene with multiple characters all delivering dialogue. Don't be afraid to use character names instead of pronouns; correct sentence structure should make it clear when you can get away with pronouns instead of proper nouns (eg. "He grabbed his arm." versus "He grabbed Joe's arm."). I don't really have any advice for understanding how to write different styles of speech, but (as a reader) please do not try to phoneticize accents. I think that watching movies and television is actually superior to books when researching dialogue because it's easier to hear when it feels fake. Edit: Also make sure you're using line breaks correctly for dialogue. A new character speaking starts a new paragraph.
Describe their actions, appearance or thought process while speaking, give physical info rather than 'he said.'
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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Take a sentence from your dialogue and write different versions of it. What does it sound if the character was warm - or cold? Straightforward - shy? Direct - indirect? Tough - soft-spoken? (You can make more of these pairs up by yourself.) Once you've practiced with different tones, decide which one of them (or a combination) sounds most like your character. Repeat with a sentence said by another character. Apply the tones you've chosen to all of the characters' dialogue.
You can extend action tags beyond "he said/she said". Give your characters action during dialogue (eg. walking, preparing food, gathering notes, performing a routine, etc.). You can also use action tags to describe your main character's reactions to what is happening in the scene. Action tags can be short (eg. Joe scoffed. "Sure."), but they can also be long (eg. Joe put down his book and rolled his eyes. "Sure."). They can also be placed before or after dialogue (eg. "Sure." Joe snapped his book shut.). In all instances it is clear that Joe is speaking. Using longer, more descriptive, well-motivated action tags can help replace long strings of "said Joe", and you get the benefit of fleshing out your characters. It can also be helpful to understand the geography of a scene with multiple characters all delivering dialogue. Don't be afraid to use character names instead of pronouns; correct sentence structure should make it clear when you can get away with pronouns instead of proper nouns (eg. "He grabbed his arm." versus "He grabbed Joe's arm."). I don't really have any advice for understanding how to write different styles of speech, but (as a reader) please do not try to phoneticize accents. I think that watching movies and television is actually superior to books when researching dialogue because it's easier to hear when it feels fake. Edit: Also make sure you're using line breaks correctly for dialogue. A new character speaking starts a new paragraph.
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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You could try having certain characters use unique verbalisations/slang. Otherwise I think it's a good idea to make use of alternatives to 'he said/she said' such as '\_\_\_ agreed/nodded/questioned/'. Adjectives also work well here, where you highlight characters' tone of voice (\_\_\_shouted/whispered/grumbled'
Research. Go out to public places and listen to how people talk differently to each other. Kids and teens say different things in different ways than grandpa. A rich socialite will speak differently than someone working 2 jobs just to get by. People from different towns, neighborhoods, states, countries will speak differently. Personalities change how someone speaks as well. Listen, take notes, and listen more. Read good literature with different voices in dialogue. Learn how to use strong action tags. They can mix up the repeating said and also give context emotionally of what characters are feeling/doing. Just don't go too heavy on them either, you don't want too much of a good thing. So balance is key, and you're going to find that by practicing writing, getting beta readers to look at it, and by reading good books with good dialogue.
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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Describe their actions, appearance or thought process while speaking, give physical info rather than 'he said.'
Research. Go out to public places and listen to how people talk differently to each other. Kids and teens say different things in different ways than grandpa. A rich socialite will speak differently than someone working 2 jobs just to get by. People from different towns, neighborhoods, states, countries will speak differently. Personalities change how someone speaks as well. Listen, take notes, and listen more. Read good literature with different voices in dialogue. Learn how to use strong action tags. They can mix up the repeating said and also give context emotionally of what characters are feeling/doing. Just don't go too heavy on them either, you don't want too much of a good thing. So balance is key, and you're going to find that by practicing writing, getting beta readers to look at it, and by reading good books with good dialogue.
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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You could try having certain characters use unique verbalisations/slang. Otherwise I think it's a good idea to make use of alternatives to 'he said/she said' such as '\_\_\_ agreed/nodded/questioned/'. Adjectives also work well here, where you highlight characters' tone of voice (\_\_\_shouted/whispered/grumbled'
A simple way is that speaker does not and will not use contractions. Pick 5-7 words no other character will use but have that speaker use them once a conversation.
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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Describe their actions, appearance or thought process while speaking, give physical info rather than 'he said.'
A simple way is that speaker does not and will not use contractions. Pick 5-7 words no other character will use but have that speaker use them once a conversation.
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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"How do I make this dialogue more distinct?" I mused aloud, tapping my pen to my lips. "You could try action tags," my partner offered. "That helps avoid repetitive use of 'he/she/they said'." "And it gives the scene a little more depth," Ji-ho called from the kitchen, where she was preparing a batch of kimchi. "That's true," I laughed.
You could try having certain characters use unique verbalisations/slang. Otherwise I think it's a good idea to make use of alternatives to 'he said/she said' such as '\_\_\_ agreed/nodded/questioned/'. Adjectives also work well here, where you highlight characters' tone of voice (\_\_\_shouted/whispered/grumbled'
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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"How do I make this dialogue more distinct?" I mused aloud, tapping my pen to my lips. "You could try action tags," my partner offered. "That helps avoid repetitive use of 'he/she/they said'." "And it gives the scene a little more depth," Ji-ho called from the kitchen, where she was preparing a batch of kimchi. "That's true," I laughed.
Well, first thing to come is age. I watched a few movies and noticed somethings incredibly interesting. During my research (you can say the source is a solid trust me bro and you wouldn't be wrong.) I found out that as you get older, your way of talking becomes older as well. This is not to say that a 70 yr from 1850's way of talking is exactly the same as ones of a 70yr from 1950. But compared to the younger ways of speech of their time they're different. The other thing to remember is how that person usually is. A calm person's aggressive response would be different from an aggressive person's aggressive response. Also, add a bit charecteristics. And play as those charecters in real life yourself. ##Too Long To Read: #Feel your charecters!
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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"How do I make this dialogue more distinct?" I mused aloud, tapping my pen to my lips. "You could try action tags," my partner offered. "That helps avoid repetitive use of 'he/she/they said'." "And it gives the scene a little more depth," Ji-ho called from the kitchen, where she was preparing a batch of kimchi. "That's true," I laughed.
Describe their actions, appearance or thought process while speaking, give physical info rather than 'he said.'
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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"How do I make this dialogue more distinct?" I mused aloud, tapping my pen to my lips. "You could try action tags," my partner offered. "That helps avoid repetitive use of 'he/she/they said'." "And it gives the scene a little more depth," Ji-ho called from the kitchen, where she was preparing a batch of kimchi. "That's true," I laughed.
Take a sentence from your dialogue and write different versions of it. What does it sound if the character was warm - or cold? Straightforward - shy? Direct - indirect? Tough - soft-spoken? (You can make more of these pairs up by yourself.) Once you've practiced with different tones, decide which one of them (or a combination) sounds most like your character. Repeat with a sentence said by another character. Apply the tones you've chosen to all of the characters' dialogue.
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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Gestures during dialogue can be very effective way to tell the characters apart. "So." Hank said as he kept rolling his cigarette. "Since it's the final day of the project I think we should throw a party at the end of the day." Johnny stood up slamming hands on the table "Yes!" he exclaimed! a simple example from a simple guy
You could try having certain characters use unique verbalisations/slang. Otherwise I think it's a good idea to make use of alternatives to 'he said/she said' such as '\_\_\_ agreed/nodded/questioned/'. Adjectives also work well here, where you highlight characters' tone of voice (\_\_\_shouted/whispered/grumbled'
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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Gestures during dialogue can be very effective way to tell the characters apart. "So." Hank said as he kept rolling his cigarette. "Since it's the final day of the project I think we should throw a party at the end of the day." Johnny stood up slamming hands on the table "Yes!" he exclaimed! a simple example from a simple guy
Well, first thing to come is age. I watched a few movies and noticed somethings incredibly interesting. During my research (you can say the source is a solid trust me bro and you wouldn't be wrong.) I found out that as you get older, your way of talking becomes older as well. This is not to say that a 70 yr from 1850's way of talking is exactly the same as ones of a 70yr from 1950. But compared to the younger ways of speech of their time they're different. The other thing to remember is how that person usually is. A calm person's aggressive response would be different from an aggressive person's aggressive response. Also, add a bit charecteristics. And play as those charecters in real life yourself. ##Too Long To Read: #Feel your charecters!
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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Gestures during dialogue can be very effective way to tell the characters apart. "So." Hank said as he kept rolling his cigarette. "Since it's the final day of the project I think we should throw a party at the end of the day." Johnny stood up slamming hands on the table "Yes!" he exclaimed! a simple example from a simple guy
Describe their actions, appearance or thought process while speaking, give physical info rather than 'he said.'
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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Gestures during dialogue can be very effective way to tell the characters apart. "So." Hank said as he kept rolling his cigarette. "Since it's the final day of the project I think we should throw a party at the end of the day." Johnny stood up slamming hands on the table "Yes!" he exclaimed! a simple example from a simple guy
Take a sentence from your dialogue and write different versions of it. What does it sound if the character was warm - or cold? Straightforward - shy? Direct - indirect? Tough - soft-spoken? (You can make more of these pairs up by yourself.) Once you've practiced with different tones, decide which one of them (or a combination) sounds most like your character. Repeat with a sentence said by another character. Apply the tones you've chosen to all of the characters' dialogue.
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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You could try having certain characters use unique verbalisations/slang. Otherwise I think it's a good idea to make use of alternatives to 'he said/she said' such as '\_\_\_ agreed/nodded/questioned/'. Adjectives also work well here, where you highlight characters' tone of voice (\_\_\_shouted/whispered/grumbled'
Imagine people you interact with. Some people will just drone on and on while other will give short, curt sentences. A valley girl might say like a lot. A king in a fantasy story may use much more elevated language. There are tons of ways to differentiate characters with dialogue.
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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Imagine people you interact with. Some people will just drone on and on while other will give short, curt sentences. A valley girl might say like a lot. A king in a fantasy story may use much more elevated language. There are tons of ways to differentiate characters with dialogue.
Well, first thing to come is age. I watched a few movies and noticed somethings incredibly interesting. During my research (you can say the source is a solid trust me bro and you wouldn't be wrong.) I found out that as you get older, your way of talking becomes older as well. This is not to say that a 70 yr from 1850's way of talking is exactly the same as ones of a 70yr from 1950. But compared to the younger ways of speech of their time they're different. The other thing to remember is how that person usually is. A calm person's aggressive response would be different from an aggressive person's aggressive response. Also, add a bit charecteristics. And play as those charecters in real life yourself. ##Too Long To Read: #Feel your charecters!
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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Imagine people you interact with. Some people will just drone on and on while other will give short, curt sentences. A valley girl might say like a lot. A king in a fantasy story may use much more elevated language. There are tons of ways to differentiate characters with dialogue.
Describe their actions, appearance or thought process while speaking, give physical info rather than 'he said.'
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
iww8u52
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Imagine people you interact with. Some people will just drone on and on while other will give short, curt sentences. A valley girl might say like a lot. A king in a fantasy story may use much more elevated language. There are tons of ways to differentiate characters with dialogue.
Take a sentence from your dialogue and write different versions of it. What does it sound if the character was warm - or cold? Straightforward - shy? Direct - indirect? Tough - soft-spoken? (You can make more of these pairs up by yourself.) Once you've practiced with different tones, decide which one of them (or a combination) sounds most like your character. Repeat with a sentence said by another character. Apply the tones you've chosen to all of the characters' dialogue.
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
iwvw6as
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Describe their actions, appearance or thought process while speaking, give physical info rather than 'he said.'
You could try having certain characters use unique verbalisations/slang. Otherwise I think it's a good idea to make use of alternatives to 'he said/she said' such as '\_\_\_ agreed/nodded/questioned/'. Adjectives also work well here, where you highlight characters' tone of voice (\_\_\_shouted/whispered/grumbled'
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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Others have mentioned the great ways you can navigate dialogue, but here are some thoughts on the joys of character voices. There are probably a ton of subtleties you can take into account when writing a character’s voice, but the big one you should consider imo is what they’re actually saying, as opposed to how they’re saying it. People will pick vastly different things to talk about in the same situations, simply based on their attitudes. Think of things like: is this character positive or negative? Are they open or reserved? Are they rash or calm? Are they lighthearted or serious? Their role and attitude in the conversation are what will give them most of their character. Combine that with some other good ones about *how* they speak, like what their vocabulary might sound like based on their background. As others have said, phonetically spelling out accents is a bit polarising, but a character’s background can have a general impact on how eloquent they are and any regional words that they choose. Also, you can apply speech patterns - some characters will be more roundabout and longwinded in the way they phrase things, while others will speak in shorter, more direct sentences.
Get clearer about the difference between your character's personalities. Let your knowledge of them lead the way.
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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A lot of language specific stuff here, but i think an important part is that your characters need to want different things. They'll speak differently, react differently to the same stimulus if they come to the page wanting different things. And a reader will intuit who is talking based on that. Hope that makes sense
Others have mentioned the great ways you can navigate dialogue, but here are some thoughts on the joys of character voices. There are probably a ton of subtleties you can take into account when writing a character’s voice, but the big one you should consider imo is what they’re actually saying, as opposed to how they’re saying it. People will pick vastly different things to talk about in the same situations, simply based on their attitudes. Think of things like: is this character positive or negative? Are they open or reserved? Are they rash or calm? Are they lighthearted or serious? Their role and attitude in the conversation are what will give them most of their character. Combine that with some other good ones about *how* they speak, like what their vocabulary might sound like based on their background. As others have said, phonetically spelling out accents is a bit polarising, but a character’s background can have a general impact on how eloquent they are and any regional words that they choose. Also, you can apply speech patterns - some characters will be more roundabout and longwinded in the way they phrase things, while others will speak in shorter, more direct sentences.
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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Others have mentioned the great ways you can navigate dialogue, but here are some thoughts on the joys of character voices. There are probably a ton of subtleties you can take into account when writing a character’s voice, but the big one you should consider imo is what they’re actually saying, as opposed to how they’re saying it. People will pick vastly different things to talk about in the same situations, simply based on their attitudes. Think of things like: is this character positive or negative? Are they open or reserved? Are they rash or calm? Are they lighthearted or serious? Their role and attitude in the conversation are what will give them most of their character. Combine that with some other good ones about *how* they speak, like what their vocabulary might sound like based on their background. As others have said, phonetically spelling out accents is a bit polarising, but a character’s background can have a general impact on how eloquent they are and any regional words that they choose. Also, you can apply speech patterns - some characters will be more roundabout and longwinded in the way they phrase things, while others will speak in shorter, more direct sentences.
Well, first thing to come is age. I watched a few movies and noticed somethings incredibly interesting. During my research (you can say the source is a solid trust me bro and you wouldn't be wrong.) I found out that as you get older, your way of talking becomes older as well. This is not to say that a 70 yr from 1850's way of talking is exactly the same as ones of a 70yr from 1950. But compared to the younger ways of speech of their time they're different. The other thing to remember is how that person usually is. A calm person's aggressive response would be different from an aggressive person's aggressive response. Also, add a bit charecteristics. And play as those charecters in real life yourself. ##Too Long To Read: #Feel your charecters!
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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Describe their actions, appearance or thought process while speaking, give physical info rather than 'he said.'
Others have mentioned the great ways you can navigate dialogue, but here are some thoughts on the joys of character voices. There are probably a ton of subtleties you can take into account when writing a character’s voice, but the big one you should consider imo is what they’re actually saying, as opposed to how they’re saying it. People will pick vastly different things to talk about in the same situations, simply based on their attitudes. Think of things like: is this character positive or negative? Are they open or reserved? Are they rash or calm? Are they lighthearted or serious? Their role and attitude in the conversation are what will give them most of their character. Combine that with some other good ones about *how* they speak, like what their vocabulary might sound like based on their background. As others have said, phonetically spelling out accents is a bit polarising, but a character’s background can have a general impact on how eloquent they are and any regional words that they choose. Also, you can apply speech patterns - some characters will be more roundabout and longwinded in the way they phrase things, while others will speak in shorter, more direct sentences.
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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Take a sentence from your dialogue and write different versions of it. What does it sound if the character was warm - or cold? Straightforward - shy? Direct - indirect? Tough - soft-spoken? (You can make more of these pairs up by yourself.) Once you've practiced with different tones, decide which one of them (or a combination) sounds most like your character. Repeat with a sentence said by another character. Apply the tones you've chosen to all of the characters' dialogue.
Others have mentioned the great ways you can navigate dialogue, but here are some thoughts on the joys of character voices. There are probably a ton of subtleties you can take into account when writing a character’s voice, but the big one you should consider imo is what they’re actually saying, as opposed to how they’re saying it. People will pick vastly different things to talk about in the same situations, simply based on their attitudes. Think of things like: is this character positive or negative? Are they open or reserved? Are they rash or calm? Are they lighthearted or serious? Their role and attitude in the conversation are what will give them most of their character. Combine that with some other good ones about *how* they speak, like what their vocabulary might sound like based on their background. As others have said, phonetically spelling out accents is a bit polarising, but a character’s background can have a general impact on how eloquent they are and any regional words that they choose. Also, you can apply speech patterns - some characters will be more roundabout and longwinded in the way they phrase things, while others will speak in shorter, more direct sentences.
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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Add certain ticks, habits, and choice words they have while speaking.
Others have mentioned the great ways you can navigate dialogue, but here are some thoughts on the joys of character voices. There are probably a ton of subtleties you can take into account when writing a character’s voice, but the big one you should consider imo is what they’re actually saying, as opposed to how they’re saying it. People will pick vastly different things to talk about in the same situations, simply based on their attitudes. Think of things like: is this character positive or negative? Are they open or reserved? Are they rash or calm? Are they lighthearted or serious? Their role and attitude in the conversation are what will give them most of their character. Combine that with some other good ones about *how* they speak, like what their vocabulary might sound like based on their background. As others have said, phonetically spelling out accents is a bit polarising, but a character’s background can have a general impact on how eloquent they are and any regional words that they choose. Also, you can apply speech patterns - some characters will be more roundabout and longwinded in the way they phrase things, while others will speak in shorter, more direct sentences.
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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Get clearer about the difference between your character's personalities. Let your knowledge of them lead the way.
A lot of language specific stuff here, but i think an important part is that your characters need to want different things. They'll speak differently, react differently to the same stimulus if they come to the page wanting different things. And a reader will intuit who is talking based on that. Hope that makes sense
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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Get clearer about the difference between your character's personalities. Let your knowledge of them lead the way.
Well, first thing to come is age. I watched a few movies and noticed somethings incredibly interesting. During my research (you can say the source is a solid trust me bro and you wouldn't be wrong.) I found out that as you get older, your way of talking becomes older as well. This is not to say that a 70 yr from 1850's way of talking is exactly the same as ones of a 70yr from 1950. But compared to the younger ways of speech of their time they're different. The other thing to remember is how that person usually is. A calm person's aggressive response would be different from an aggressive person's aggressive response. Also, add a bit charecteristics. And play as those charecters in real life yourself. ##Too Long To Read: #Feel your charecters!
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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Get clearer about the difference between your character's personalities. Let your knowledge of them lead the way.
Describe their actions, appearance or thought process while speaking, give physical info rather than 'he said.'
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
iwwdnat
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Get clearer about the difference between your character's personalities. Let your knowledge of them lead the way.
Take a sentence from your dialogue and write different versions of it. What does it sound if the character was warm - or cold? Straightforward - shy? Direct - indirect? Tough - soft-spoken? (You can make more of these pairs up by yourself.) Once you've practiced with different tones, decide which one of them (or a combination) sounds most like your character. Repeat with a sentence said by another character. Apply the tones you've chosen to all of the characters' dialogue.
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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Add certain ticks, habits, and choice words they have while speaking.
Get clearer about the difference between your character's personalities. Let your knowledge of them lead the way.
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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Well, first thing to come is age. I watched a few movies and noticed somethings incredibly interesting. During my research (you can say the source is a solid trust me bro and you wouldn't be wrong.) I found out that as you get older, your way of talking becomes older as well. This is not to say that a 70 yr from 1850's way of talking is exactly the same as ones of a 70yr from 1950. But compared to the younger ways of speech of their time they're different. The other thing to remember is how that person usually is. A calm person's aggressive response would be different from an aggressive person's aggressive response. Also, add a bit charecteristics. And play as those charecters in real life yourself. ##Too Long To Read: #Feel your charecters!
A lot of language specific stuff here, but i think an important part is that your characters need to want different things. They'll speak differently, react differently to the same stimulus if they come to the page wanting different things. And a reader will intuit who is talking based on that. Hope that makes sense
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
iwvw6as
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Describe their actions, appearance or thought process while speaking, give physical info rather than 'he said.'
A lot of language specific stuff here, but i think an important part is that your characters need to want different things. They'll speak differently, react differently to the same stimulus if they come to the page wanting different things. And a reader will intuit who is talking based on that. Hope that makes sense
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
iwwmee8
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A lot of language specific stuff here, but i think an important part is that your characters need to want different things. They'll speak differently, react differently to the same stimulus if they come to the page wanting different things. And a reader will intuit who is talking based on that. Hope that makes sense
Take a sentence from your dialogue and write different versions of it. What does it sound if the character was warm - or cold? Straightforward - shy? Direct - indirect? Tough - soft-spoken? (You can make more of these pairs up by yourself.) Once you've practiced with different tones, decide which one of them (or a combination) sounds most like your character. Repeat with a sentence said by another character. Apply the tones you've chosen to all of the characters' dialogue.
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
iwwaub6
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Add certain ticks, habits, and choice words they have while speaking.
A lot of language specific stuff here, but i think an important part is that your characters need to want different things. They'll speak differently, react differently to the same stimulus if they come to the page wanting different things. And a reader will intuit who is talking based on that. Hope that makes sense
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
iwvw6as
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Describe their actions, appearance or thought process while speaking, give physical info rather than 'he said.'
Well, first thing to come is age. I watched a few movies and noticed somethings incredibly interesting. During my research (you can say the source is a solid trust me bro and you wouldn't be wrong.) I found out that as you get older, your way of talking becomes older as well. This is not to say that a 70 yr from 1850's way of talking is exactly the same as ones of a 70yr from 1950. But compared to the younger ways of speech of their time they're different. The other thing to remember is how that person usually is. A calm person's aggressive response would be different from an aggressive person's aggressive response. Also, add a bit charecteristics. And play as those charecters in real life yourself. ##Too Long To Read: #Feel your charecters!
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
iww1kou
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Well, first thing to come is age. I watched a few movies and noticed somethings incredibly interesting. During my research (you can say the source is a solid trust me bro and you wouldn't be wrong.) I found out that as you get older, your way of talking becomes older as well. This is not to say that a 70 yr from 1850's way of talking is exactly the same as ones of a 70yr from 1950. But compared to the younger ways of speech of their time they're different. The other thing to remember is how that person usually is. A calm person's aggressive response would be different from an aggressive person's aggressive response. Also, add a bit charecteristics. And play as those charecters in real life yourself. ##Too Long To Read: #Feel your charecters!
Take a sentence from your dialogue and write different versions of it. What does it sound if the character was warm - or cold? Straightforward - shy? Direct - indirect? Tough - soft-spoken? (You can make more of these pairs up by yourself.) Once you've practiced with different tones, decide which one of them (or a combination) sounds most like your character. Repeat with a sentence said by another character. Apply the tones you've chosen to all of the characters' dialogue.
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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I’m not a pro by any means but I personally think speech patterns the way they speak maybe certain phrases or words only they would use I feel like u have to put urself in the characters nd decided how you want them to speak how they sound what they say what words and phrases would they use maybe they have a specific speech pattern or maybe they have a speech impediment etc. I’m sorry if that doesn’t make sense it’s hard to explain cause I feel like you just do it you know but that’s not helpful for someone who doesn’t understand that way
Describe their actions, appearance or thought process while speaking, give physical info rather than 'he said.'
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
iwvznnu
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Take a sentence from your dialogue and write different versions of it. What does it sound if the character was warm - or cold? Straightforward - shy? Direct - indirect? Tough - soft-spoken? (You can make more of these pairs up by yourself.) Once you've practiced with different tones, decide which one of them (or a combination) sounds most like your character. Repeat with a sentence said by another character. Apply the tones you've chosen to all of the characters' dialogue.
I’m not a pro by any means but I personally think speech patterns the way they speak maybe certain phrases or words only they would use I feel like u have to put urself in the characters nd decided how you want them to speak how they sound what they say what words and phrases would they use maybe they have a specific speech pattern or maybe they have a speech impediment etc. I’m sorry if that doesn’t make sense it’s hard to explain cause I feel like you just do it you know but that’s not helpful for someone who doesn’t understand that way
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
iwzopeu
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I’m not a pro by any means but I personally think speech patterns the way they speak maybe certain phrases or words only they would use I feel like u have to put urself in the characters nd decided how you want them to speak how they sound what they say what words and phrases would they use maybe they have a specific speech pattern or maybe they have a speech impediment etc. I’m sorry if that doesn’t make sense it’s hard to explain cause I feel like you just do it you know but that’s not helpful for someone who doesn’t understand that way
Add certain ticks, habits, and choice words they have while speaking.
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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Just so you know, you don't have to avoid using he/she said, as most readers don't notice it anyway, if you can't think of anything to replace it, don't stress about it and use he/she said. Although I respect it if that's your writing style to not use it as much, because as long as the story is interesting, it won't matter how it's written 🙂
I’m not a pro by any means but I personally think speech patterns the way they speak maybe certain phrases or words only they would use I feel like u have to put urself in the characters nd decided how you want them to speak how they sound what they say what words and phrases would they use maybe they have a specific speech pattern or maybe they have a speech impediment etc. I’m sorry if that doesn’t make sense it’s hard to explain cause I feel like you just do it you know but that’s not helpful for someone who doesn’t understand that way
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
iwzopeu
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I’m not a pro by any means but I personally think speech patterns the way they speak maybe certain phrases or words only they would use I feel like u have to put urself in the characters nd decided how you want them to speak how they sound what they say what words and phrases would they use maybe they have a specific speech pattern or maybe they have a speech impediment etc. I’m sorry if that doesn’t make sense it’s hard to explain cause I feel like you just do it you know but that’s not helpful for someone who doesn’t understand that way
You don't always have to use 'he said, she said'. Use it as an excuse to anchor the scene in the surroundings, rather than putting all your description at the beginning of the section. Eg Joe tapped the desk, Joe got up from the sofa. Joe noticed the hideous wallpaper.
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
iwzopeu
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I’m not a pro by any means but I personally think speech patterns the way they speak maybe certain phrases or words only they would use I feel like u have to put urself in the characters nd decided how you want them to speak how they sound what they say what words and phrases would they use maybe they have a specific speech pattern or maybe they have a speech impediment etc. I’m sorry if that doesn’t make sense it’s hard to explain cause I feel like you just do it you know but that’s not helpful for someone who doesn’t understand that way
You have to give them a speaking style, almost like an accent. For example, here's three ways you can write the same sentiment in different voices: "You have to do this." "Darling, this is the only option." "We ain't got a choice---just do it!" And don't neglect body language. Characters tend to have a way they carry themselves and it will reflect in their action beats.
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
iwzopeu
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I’m not a pro by any means but I personally think speech patterns the way they speak maybe certain phrases or words only they would use I feel like u have to put urself in the characters nd decided how you want them to speak how they sound what they say what words and phrases would they use maybe they have a specific speech pattern or maybe they have a speech impediment etc. I’m sorry if that doesn’t make sense it’s hard to explain cause I feel like you just do it you know but that’s not helpful for someone who doesn’t understand that way
Why are you justifying writing as if it's something nefarious? Stop undermining yourself by tell yourself how bad you must be. Also stop comparing your rough draft to someone's edited and published book. It's not as bad as you think because until something is published you can edit it as much as needed to get it where you want. The rest is practice. Listen to how people around you speak. Read your dialogue outloud and act it out. Here's three sentences. Two are by the same character and one is by someone else. If you can tell them apart? It's from the above tricks. If not I need to edit something. 1. "Hello, darling. I waited for you all night. If you're hungry I made your favorite." 2. "You will be silent. I have not finished speaking and you are not important enough to interrupt me. Do it again and you will be removed." 3. "You think you're special? You ain't. You're just blowing smoke up your own ass. You ain't worth spit. I should've listened to pa." Slang helps, but it's cadence and a mixture of formal vs informal that defines the speech of these two people. Spoiler tagging the answer. >!1 and 3 are my priest. 2 is my protagonist.!<
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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I’m not a pro by any means but I personally think speech patterns the way they speak maybe certain phrases or words only they would use I feel like u have to put urself in the characters nd decided how you want them to speak how they sound what they say what words and phrases would they use maybe they have a specific speech pattern or maybe they have a speech impediment etc. I’m sorry if that doesn’t make sense it’s hard to explain cause I feel like you just do it you know but that’s not helpful for someone who doesn’t understand that way
Each character has their own distinct vocabulary and grammar patterns.
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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I usually use longer action tags so that way it feels more natural; I tend to avoid words like "said" or "scoffed" or "yelled" unless it appears in-dialogue because that's how I was taught when taking journalism classes (although they only used the word said). For what it's worth, I also tend to speak the dialogue out loud in different voices while I'm establishing characters to better get in their heads. It's made for some awkward moments.
I’m not a pro by any means but I personally think speech patterns the way they speak maybe certain phrases or words only they would use I feel like u have to put urself in the characters nd decided how you want them to speak how they sound what they say what words and phrases would they use maybe they have a specific speech pattern or maybe they have a speech impediment etc. I’m sorry if that doesn’t make sense it’s hard to explain cause I feel like you just do it you know but that’s not helpful for someone who doesn’t understand that way
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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I’m not a pro by any means but I personally think speech patterns the way they speak maybe certain phrases or words only they would use I feel like u have to put urself in the characters nd decided how you want them to speak how they sound what they say what words and phrases would they use maybe they have a specific speech pattern or maybe they have a speech impediment etc. I’m sorry if that doesn’t make sense it’s hard to explain cause I feel like you just do it you know but that’s not helpful for someone who doesn’t understand that way
Try putting yourself in different moods or put yourself in a certain mindset and just speak. You will find yourself speaking in different ways like how putting on fake accents can have you using slang from those countries you’re mimicking. Like when I stay calm and am discussing a serious topic I don’t curse or use descriptive speech for my feelings like I might just having a vent fest about the same topic with a friend. Whether people realize it or not book characters even when well developed are not as three dimensional as real people and you can learn to play out these characters with yourself by taking them on like a persona and speaking amongst yourself while flipping between personas can help develop unique dialogue and actions that fit the person you are creating from the ground up.
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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A couple tics that distinguish the way some people talk from others... -exaggerating, overusing superlatives -sentences becoming questions? -repeating themselves to make a point -apologizing, hedging their opinions -peppering in sarcasm/criticisms -sort of being just vague, y'know?
I’m not a pro by any means but I personally think speech patterns the way they speak maybe certain phrases or words only they would use I feel like u have to put urself in the characters nd decided how you want them to speak how they sound what they say what words and phrases would they use maybe they have a specific speech pattern or maybe they have a speech impediment etc. I’m sorry if that doesn’t make sense it’s hard to explain cause I feel like you just do it you know but that’s not helpful for someone who doesn’t understand that way
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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I come from screenwriting, where there tends to be more emphasis on dialogue. What I try to do (and don't always succeed at first try) is to make sure my characters have different enough personalities that I can then let influence their dialogue. If someone is conflict avoidant, they may hesitate a lot. If they're on the autism spectrum, they may be very literal. If they're educated and/or insecure about their intelligence, they may use a lot of big words. Dialogue as mere informational trade is boring. Dialogue to show character, now that is interesting.
I’m not a pro by any means but I personally think speech patterns the way they speak maybe certain phrases or words only they would use I feel like u have to put urself in the characters nd decided how you want them to speak how they sound what they say what words and phrases would they use maybe they have a specific speech pattern or maybe they have a speech impediment etc. I’m sorry if that doesn’t make sense it’s hard to explain cause I feel like you just do it you know but that’s not helpful for someone who doesn’t understand that way
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What's the best way to make character speech distinct so you can tell who is speaking? I'm not the best writer, but I like doing it, it's my comfort thing. The problem i'm having is my dialogue isn't different enough per character, I avoid using "He said, she said" and the like because it drives me mental reading and writing it but I need a way to make it noticeable who's talking. Any advice would be wonderful. Thank you.
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I’m not a pro by any means but I personally think speech patterns the way they speak maybe certain phrases or words only they would use I feel like u have to put urself in the characters nd decided how you want them to speak how they sound what they say what words and phrases would they use maybe they have a specific speech pattern or maybe they have a speech impediment etc. I’m sorry if that doesn’t make sense it’s hard to explain cause I feel like you just do it you know but that’s not helpful for someone who doesn’t understand that way
Bleach does this pretty well actually, some characters are 1000s of years older than the mc and so some talk in an older way of speaking, if you wanted to go for something like this you may avoid contractions, substitute certain words for others (just don't make the reader break out the dictionary), so "let's go" becomes "let us proceed" things like that Something I'm trying to get better at is putting some personality in their speech, like if a character is more vulgar they'll say more vulgar things, maybe be a bit out of pocket. if a character is more reserved then they talk less, say things briefly, make the words count etc. don't phoneticize, it can make shit hard to read, but you can drop g's every now and again (going--->goin') as long as it's clear what word you're using
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Crazy idea: Try to use the question, "What does that mean?" more often. Parroting the last word a character said back at them to demonstrate confusion has gotten way too common. I don't want to name the book I was reading today, but I saw three phrases back-to-back where one character is trying to catch up two others on what happened since they saw each other last. Three times in a row he explained something absurd and they repeated it back to him, which got me thinking, "Do people really talk like this in real life?" Followed by, "Do I do this in my *own* writing??" (turns out, I do, and I'm going to start paying attention to it.) Some made up examples of what I'm talking about: > "I told the mercenaries that captured me that the artifact they were looking for had been taken by chinese commandos." > *"Chinese commandos?!"* or > "And then the AI told me an alien ship was on its way to destroy our sun." > *"Destroy our sun!?"* and even > "That creature is called a gleefazoan. They eat nurgles." > *"Gleefazoan?!"* You get the idea. I just started to notice how common this has gotten and now I'm seeing it everywhere.
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>Crazy idea: Try to use the question, "What does that mean?" more often. Parroting the last word a character said back at them to demonstrate confusion has gotten way too common. Too common???
Do people in real life actually skew towards asking the question explicitly though? Echoing seems more common in real conversation to me, unless perhaps the speaker is a child. Just one anecdotal observation.
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Crazy idea: Try to use the question, "What does that mean?" more often. Parroting the last word a character said back at them to demonstrate confusion has gotten way too common. I don't want to name the book I was reading today, but I saw three phrases back-to-back where one character is trying to catch up two others on what happened since they saw each other last. Three times in a row he explained something absurd and they repeated it back to him, which got me thinking, "Do people really talk like this in real life?" Followed by, "Do I do this in my *own* writing??" (turns out, I do, and I'm going to start paying attention to it.) Some made up examples of what I'm talking about: > "I told the mercenaries that captured me that the artifact they were looking for had been taken by chinese commandos." > *"Chinese commandos?!"* or > "And then the AI told me an alien ship was on its way to destroy our sun." > *"Destroy our sun!?"* and even > "That creature is called a gleefazoan. They eat nurgles." > *"Gleefazoan?!"* You get the idea. I just started to notice how common this has gotten and now I'm seeing it everywhere.
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I know someone who does this IRL. It freaks me out, but I think it's something people are taught to be a trick of active listening and taken too literally. Good advice, though. I'm going to watch out for it in my writing.
>Crazy idea: Try to use the question, "What does that mean?" more often. Parroting the last word a character said back at them to demonstrate confusion has gotten way too common. Too common???
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Crazy idea: Try to use the question, "What does that mean?" more often. Parroting the last word a character said back at them to demonstrate confusion has gotten way too common. I don't want to name the book I was reading today, but I saw three phrases back-to-back where one character is trying to catch up two others on what happened since they saw each other last. Three times in a row he explained something absurd and they repeated it back to him, which got me thinking, "Do people really talk like this in real life?" Followed by, "Do I do this in my *own* writing??" (turns out, I do, and I'm going to start paying attention to it.) Some made up examples of what I'm talking about: > "I told the mercenaries that captured me that the artifact they were looking for had been taken by chinese commandos." > *"Chinese commandos?!"* or > "And then the AI told me an alien ship was on its way to destroy our sun." > *"Destroy our sun!?"* and even > "That creature is called a gleefazoan. They eat nurgles." > *"Gleefazoan?!"* You get the idea. I just started to notice how common this has gotten and now I'm seeing it everywhere.
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>Crazy idea: Try to use the question, "What does that mean?" more often. Parroting the last word a character said back at them to demonstrate confusion has gotten way too common. Too common???
Everywhere?! No, but I do agree. Same with the 'Skip the technobabble/in plain English, please.'
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