diff --git "a/AnnoMi-therapist/train.tsv" "b/AnnoMi-therapist/train.tsv" new file mode 100644--- /dev/null +++ "b/AnnoMi-therapist/train.tsv" @@ -0,0 +1,3162 @@ +video_name text label task +AnnoMi-therapist_0_0.mp4 Thanks for filling it out. We give this form to everyone once a year regardless of why they come in. It helps us provide better care. Is it okay if I take a look at what you put down? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_0_2.mp4 So, let's see. It looks that you put-- You drink alcohol at least four times a week on average- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_0_4.mp4 -and you usually have three to four drinks when you do drink. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_0_6.mp4 Okay. That's at least 12 drinks a week. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_0_8.mp4 Okay. Just so you know, my role, um, when we talk about alcohol use, is just to share information about risk and to help patients who want help. This is different than telling them what I think they should do. I don't do that. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_0_10.mp4 Uh, what else can you tell me about your drinking. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_0_12.mp4 Okay. So, can I share with you some information on alcohol use? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_0_14.mp4 Okay. So, there has been a lot of research on alcohol use and the guidelines we use in this country says that having seven or more drinks per week can raise the risk of health problems for women. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_0_16.mp4 Seven. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_0_18.mp4 Yeah, you're surprised to hear that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_0_20.mp4 Well things like heart disease, cancer, liver problems, uh, stomach pains, insomnia. Unfortunately, uh, people who drink at a risky level are more likely to be diagnosed with depression and alcohol can make depression worse or harder to treat. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_0_22.mp4 Well, how do you think your drinking relates to the depression you've experienced? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_0_24.mp4 Okay. And how do you feel after you drink? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_0_26.mp4 So, there are some answers on this form here. Uh, less than monthly you drank more than you intended to. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_0_28.mp4 And sometimes you feel guilty after you drink. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_0_30.mp4 So you're not proud of finishing a bottle? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_0_32.mp4 Right. By the way, binge drinking is defined for women as having more than, uh, three drinks and there are about five drinks in a bottle. So, you enjoy drinking wine because it helps make things, uh, a little bit more interesting when you're feeling down but at the same time you don't like drinking when you have more than you want it to and then the depression returns after you drink. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_0_34.mp4 Where do you wanna go from here? What do you wanna change about your drinking habits? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_0_36.mp4 If I gave you a scale from 0 to 10, 0 being not ready at all to cut back on drinking and 10 being very ready, what number would you be at? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_0_38.mp4 Okay. Why do you think it's not something less like a six? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_0_40.mp4 What would help you cut back to two drinks? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_0_42.mp4 Having less wine in the house will help? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_0_44.mp4 What else besides drinking helps you relax and unwind in the evenings? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_0_46.mp4 So, it's not just wine that helps you relax. Um, there's reading a book, watching a movie, and taking a hot bath too. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_0_48.mp4 Okay. So, it sounds like you have some reasons to cut back on drinking and you have ways to relax besides drinking and it sounds like you're pretty ready to cut back. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_0_50.mp4 Great. I'd be interested to see how well you do on your goal in the next few weeks. Would you be willing to come back and talk to me about it? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_0_52.mp4 Great. So, let's see how well you're doing with these new meds. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_1_0.mp4 And before you leave, uh, is it okay if we go over this screening form that you filled out today on your alcohol use? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_1_2.mp4 Okay. Uh, thanks for filling this out. Uh, looks like you use alcohol two to three days a week? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_1_4.mp4 Okay. And then when you do drink alcohol, you typically have five or six drinks. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_1_6.mp4 Okay. Well, the reason why I like to talk to patients when they fill out this form is because sometimes, uh, alcohol use can impact our health. Um, and my role is to be helpful. I can share some information with you about alcohol use, um, but I don't tell anyone what to do. It's always up to the patient to decide what they wanna do about their drinking. Um, so is it okay if we talk a little bit more about your alcohol use? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_1_8.mp4 How would you define drinking too much? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_1_10.mp4 Mm-hmm. Well, in this country, the guidelines are men can drink up to 14 drinks a week or up to four on one occasion and still be low risk. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_1_12.mp4 So a limit of four a night doesn't feel right to you? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_1_14.mp4 You're not alone in feeling that way. Uh, binge drinking can feel normal to some people. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_1_16.mp4 Why is that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_1_18.mp4 Mm-hmm. Well, technically, we define binge drinking as having more than four drinks on one occasion. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_1_20.mp4 Well, uh, we know if someone binge drinks over time, there's kind of two categories of risk. There's the short-term risk where someone who binge drinks is more likely to fall down, hurt themselves through an accident, uh, they're more likely to drive while under the influence. Uh, but over the long term, binge drinking can also, uh, cause things like heart disease, uh, different kinds of cancer, liver problems obviously, and then even mental health issues like depression and anxiety are more likely to happen. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_1_22.mp4 Can I ask you, uh, what do you like about drinking alcohol? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_1_24.mp4 And so what about your drinking do you not like or is there anything that worries you about your drinking? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_1_26.mp4 So, on one hand, you like how beer tastes, uh, it's part of your social life to some extent, um, but on the other hand, you don't like the idea of it posing risks to your health over the long term? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_1_28.mp4 So weighing those things, you know, what you like about your drinking, what you don't like about your drinking, uh, where do you wanna go from here? Uh, what would you like to change about your drinking? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_1_30.mp4 Well, how about hypothetically if I were to ask you, how would your drinking have to impact your life in order for you to be ready to change your drinking? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_1_32.mp4 So if you experienced a negative consequence from your drinking, uh, that would feel meaningful to you? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_1_34.mp4 Okay. Well, I like to give this handout to patients. Uh, it defines risky drinking, it talks about what the consequences are, uh, and it also lists signs of what an alcohol use disorder is. So thanks again for taking the time to fill this out and being honest with me, uh, to talk about it. I provide better care, uh, when I know about my patient's substance use. When we come back for a three-month follow-up appointment for your ADHD, I'd also like to talk to you and check in about your alcohol use too, if that's okay with you. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_1_36.mp4 Okay, great. See you next time. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_2_0.mp4 Hi, John. Nice to see you again. So, tell me, how are things going? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_2_2.mp4 Well, I appreciate you bringing your weight to the forefront. Do you mind if we explore this issue further? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_2_4.mp4 All right. Uh, well, it sounds like you've been struggling with your weight recently. And I understand how difficult it is to lose the weight and then have it come back again. So, tell me what you did to lose that initial 5 pounds. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_2_6.mp4 But you did have some success. Tell me how you felt when you lost the weight. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_2_8.mp4 Okay. Well, it sounds like you realized that when you lost the weight you feel better and that it's gonna affect your overall health. So, tell me what you think changed that caused you to gain the weight back. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_2_10.mp4 And how many servings of fruits and vegetables on average per day would you have? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_2_12.mp4 John, it's very important that you recognize that some fruits, but especially fruit juice can contain a huge amount of calories. Did you know that a glass of orange juice has almost as many calories as a can of cola? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_2_14.mp4 You're absolutely right, but keep in mind that the food pyramid is to be used as a guideline only. When it comes to nutrition, we have to have a more personalized approach. So I have a hunch, and that is the excess fruit that you were consuming probably caused your weight rebound. What's your impression? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_2_16.mp4 Indeed. Let me ask you something, knowing what you know now, how important is it to you to lose the weight by decreasing the amount of juice that you're currently taking in? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_2_18.mp4 Oh, I understand. Let me ask you this, on a scale from 0 to 10, 0 meaning that there's no way you can do it, and 10 meaning that you're 100% confident that you can do it, how confident are you that you'll be able to reduce the amount of juice you're currently taking in. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_2_20.mp4 All right. So, you're not a zero. So, that tells me that you've got some confidence that this is doable, this is something you certainly can do it. Why are you not a zero? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_2_22.mp4 So, you realize, again, that if you decrease the amount of juice you're taking in, you're gonna decrease your weight, you're gonna feel better, and you're gonna impact your po- health positively? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_2_24.mp4 But you're also not a 10, and that tells me that there may be some obstacles to your success. What would it take for you to be a 10 or even an 8 or 9? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_2_26.mp4 Okay. Now, if the juice was still there, can you think of anything else you could do? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_2_28.mp4 Excellent. John, I get the impression that you want to stay in course with weight reduction. And the best way to do this will be to decrease the amount of juice that you're currently taking in. So if I saw you in two weeks and I asked you how much juice you're t- drinking and how you did it, what would you tell me? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_2_30.mp4 Excellent. Well, it sounds like you have a plan. Same scale, 0 to 10, how confident are you that you can, uh, make this happen? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_2_32.mp4 I agree. All right. Well, you-you know what? I'm not gonna start any medications today. Your levels were a little bit off, but I think we can handle this from a purely lifestyle standpoint. What do you think? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_2_34.mp4 Excellent. I'll see you in two weeks. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_3_1.mp4 Okay, and so what I'm hearing is that you don't feel like your health is concerning you right now, or anything like that? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_3_3.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_3_5.mp4 Okay. Have you noticed putting on any weight, or anything like--? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_3_7.mp4 Okay. Okay. And how about going to see the doctor? Have you gone to-- for a visit or anything recently? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_3_9.mp4 Okay. But you feel that you feel good? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_3_11.mp4 Okay. Um, and so what I hear is that you're-- you feel like your wife might be, uh, overreacting to this? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_3_13.mp4 Sure. Sure. Okay. Um, and so one thing I'd just like to do is maybe give you some information on, um, maybe obesity or diabetes if you're interested or open to that. If you're, you know--? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_4_0.mp4 Hi, Emily. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_4_2.mp4 It's been a while. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_4_4.mp4 This is something new. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_4_6.mp4 You got your lip pierced. How long ago did you get that done? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_4_8.mp4 Hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_4_10.mp4 What made you decide to get-get a lip piercing? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_4_12.mp4 Hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_4_14.mp4 Yeah, and it looks nice. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_4_16.mp4 Um, I guess, you know, as your dentist, I have- I have a couple of concerns about lip piercings, oral piercings. I wonder what have you heard about how having an oral piercing can affect your-your teeth or your gums? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_4_18.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_4_20.mp4 You do. you have beautiful teeth as I always tell you- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_4_22.mp4 -every time you come in. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_4_24.mp4 Um, I mean I have had some patients with oral piercings and they can erode some of the gum right, um, just right there at the front. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_4_26.mp4 Um, so that's one-one thing, and the other is, um, I do see fair amount of chipped teeth- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_4_28.mp4 -just from contact with it. I wonder what are your thoughts about that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_4_30.mp4 Yes, flossing. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_4_32.mp4 There's nothing yet. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_4_34.mp4 Yeah. There's certainly been-- There's no problems and you, as you said, only have had it for a short time. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_4_36.mp4 "Um, what would- what would make you decide, ""This is something that's not right for me?"" " question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_4_38.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_4_40.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_4_42.mp4 I guess that it does. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_4_44.mp4 Yeah, it looks nice. So, you want to monitor it and-and- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_4_46.mp4 -really watch- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_4_48.mp4 -the effect? Okay. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_4_50.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_4_52.mp4 Emily, you said it so well it- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_4_54.mp4 -the-the piercing might not last forever, but your teeth really are- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_4_56.mp4 -hopefully forever. So, okay, well thanks for-for talking about it- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_4_58.mp4 -with me, and also before I do the exam, you know, I'm always on your case about flossing, so maybe we can take [inaudible 00:02:46]- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_0.mp4 Hi, Billy. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_2.mp4 Hi, another session and another session where you are actually on time. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_4.mp4 You've done-- You've got a really good track record of, uh, being on time. Yeah? Do you realize that? other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_6.mp4 Yeah. Yeah. You know, I've been thinking about, um, thinking about you, and thinking about, um, that first meeting we had, and where you are now. So, wh-what do you think some of the changes are that-that you've made in this- in this, sort of, five-five to six weeks that we've been meeting? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_8.mp4 Yeah? other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_10.mp4 Yeah? other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_12.mp4 It's helped heaps? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_14.mp4 Yeah? So, what sort of things has it helped with? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_16.mp4 Mm-hmm. So, what changes have you made, Billy? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_18.mp4 Mm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_20.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_22.mp4 Yeah. And, get-getting to the polytech and getting the forms, that's a pretty big deal. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_24.mp4 Yeah? I was thinking about the Billy, say, the Billy of six months ago. I'm wondering if the Billy of six months ago would've done that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_26.mp4 Mm-hmm. So, what shifted that made it that you were actually able to go to the polytech and get the forms? What's shifted in you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_28.mp4 Mm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_30.mp4 Yeah. Where have you got to with the forms? I mean, we talked about that quite a lot last time. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_32.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_34.mp4 Okay. So, what did you say to Donna? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_36.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_38.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_40.mp4 Okay. So, where did you get to in terms of telling her that, uh, reading and writing is not that [unintelligible 00:27:23] for you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_42.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_44.mp4 So, I was thinking about how that stuff about not feeling confident around reading and writing has, um, really got in the way for you. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_46.mp4 And I mentioned that's somewhere where you don't feel so confident, and I'm wondering what it would be like to feel confident with reading and writing. What difference would that make to your life? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_48.mp4 Mm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_50.mp4 Yeah. Yeah, I can really see that you're making an effort. In fact, I can see that you're really making an effort in lots of areas, not just in terms of reading and writing. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_52.mp4 Mm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_54.mp4 So, where are the forms now? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_56.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_58.mp4 So, what needs to happen next? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_60.mp4 So, you actually have to deliver them to the polytech, do you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_62.mp4 Mm-hmm. So, when do you think you're gonna do that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_64.mp4 Mm-hmm. So, by the end of this week, so by next time, when you come here, as in, those forms will be at the polytech? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_66.mp4 And what-what happens next in terms of what happens once the forms are there? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_68.mp4 Mm-hmm. So what's the- what's the-- Say, if you get on the course- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_70.mp4 -and, um, you're, like, real good with, uh, hands-on stuff, but the stuff around the manuals, and the assignments, and those sorts of things, um, don't feel so good. What-what do you think we need to do around helping you with that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_72.mp4 Mm. Yeah? other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_74.mp4 So, all these changes that you've- that you've made, um, Billy, where-where is the offending fitting into all of that now? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_76.mp4 So, offending gets in the way of the life that you're starting to lead? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_78.mp4 Yeah? So, what temptations have you had to, kind of, go back to offending? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_80.mp4 Mm. So the drinking is something that we talked about can make it easier for you to offend. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_82.mp4 So you've noticed that when you've been drinking that those feelings are coming back again, or? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_84.mp4 It's harder to think straight when you've been drinking? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_86.mp4 Yeah. Yeah. And so you've got Donna around at the moment? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_88.mp4 And that's helping keep you in check, as you said? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_90.mp4 Yeah. What would happen if she wasn't around say or at a party or? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_92.mp4 Okay. So Donna at the moment who kind of being there is like a strength? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_94.mp4 Mm. What do you think? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_96.mp4 Mm. Yeah. 'Cause I was thinking about that dream that you've got about the job and a life with Donna and- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_98.mp4 -kids and stuff like that and how you were saying that the offending doesn't fit in with that dream or that idea. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_100.mp4 So there's that on the one hand, but on the other hand, there's the kind of immediate, um, feeling when you've had a few to drink and you're with your mates and it feels like it would be a bit of a laugh? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_102.mp4 So you've got-got those two things going on at the same time. Yeah? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_104.mp4 And it sounds like sometimes when you're in there with your mates and had a few drinks, it's hard to hold on to that vision of the future. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_106.mp4 Okay. So what-wh-- in the moment, what are you thinking? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_108.mp4 Not really thinking or simply not thinking beyond the next- question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_110.mp4 -kind of minute or so- question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_112.mp4 So it's not your idea. And you also go along with it? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_114.mp4 Mm-hmm. What would happen if you say no? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_116.mp4 Mm-hmm. So it's hard to actually say no to your friends- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_118.mp4 -'cause of what they- what they thought of you. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_120.mp4 Yeah. So I'm wondering what the-the thinking, 'cause, um, one of the things that's really changed for you is being with Donna. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_122.mp4 So I'm wondering, you know, most of them butt-butts head on your friendships with those- with those guys. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_124.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_126.mp4 Then so when you're-- so you're spending less time with them and more time with Donna? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_128.mp4 Yeah. And you're saying you're kind of hanging out with her and going to movies and stuff? Yeah. And that means you're spending less time with your-- with those people that have actually led you in trouble in the past? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_130.mp4 Okay. So tell me- tell me what it is that they do so I get a better understanding of it. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_132.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_134.mp4 Okay. So that's just what you've always done. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_136.mp4 But we're also talking about this idea that it doesn't fit with what your goals are or what your hopes are? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_138.mp4 Yeah. Mm. How would you like it to be? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_140.mp4 Mm, well the stuff about when you're in the moment. Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_142.mp4 When you've had a few drinks and you kind of go and get into trouble. How would you like that to be different? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_144.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_146.mp4 Okay. So-so Donna's helped calm you down and you'd like, um, them to calm down too? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_148.mp4 Mm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_150.mp4 So am I hearing that it's tricky in some ways to hang out with them sometimes- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_152.mp4 -now that you're with Donna? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_154.mp4 Hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_156.mp4 Okay. So-so what's the definition, for you, of a good mate? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_158.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_160.mp4 So, someone who's loyal, someone who's got your back, yeah? What else? What else is really your definition of a really good mate? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_162.mp4 Hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_164.mp4 Oh, so, someone who'll stand up for you? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_166.mp4 Yeah? Yeah. Sounds like a really strong definition of a good mate- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_168.mp4 -for you? So, I'm wondering about, um, whether good mates lead you into trouble, if it's something you wanna do. If you got something different that you wanna do, what would a good mate do in that situation? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_170.mp4 Yeah. How-how would you wanna be supported, Billy? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_172.mp4 Mm. Okay, so that's-that's the kind of support that a really good mate would give you? It sounds- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_174.mp4 -like these guys have been around for you- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_176.mp4 -for quite some time, and they're really important to you. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_178.mp4 "Yeah. Okay. So, I'm wondering how we can get to that point where, yeah, you can say, ""No, I don't wanna do that,"" and they're supportive of you? " question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_180.mp4 What do you think it would take? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_182.mp4 Okay. So, how would they know you're serious? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_184.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_186.mp4 Okay. That's the second time you've used that word 'guilty'. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_188.mp4 Yeah? So, it sounds like it's a really-- something's really important to you about that. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_190.mp4 Mm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_192.mp4 Okay. So, it's almost as if you feel a bit torn because you wanna be with Donna, but you also wanna be with your- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_194.mp4 -with your mates? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_196.mp4 Mm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_198.mp4 Yeah, so they're still important to you? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_200.mp4 Hmm. I also am hearing that you don't wanna get into trouble anymore. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_5_202.mp4 Mm. Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_6_0.mp4 Hi, Sal. Thanks for coming in today. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_6_2.mp4 I saw that your doctor made the referral and, um, and I really appreciate you taking the time to come and make that appointment. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_6_4.mp4 So you made it in here- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_6_6.mp4 - and do you have a sense of-of what some of the doctor's concerns were that led her to refer you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_6_8.mp4 So your asthma has been acting up and there's a lot of stuff, not just the asthma going on? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_6_10.mp4 Mm-hmm. Almost— reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_6_12.mp4 Almost overwhelming it sounds like. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_6_14.mp4 Well, we have about, I guess, 15 or 20 minutes together and I wonder, would it be okay, if we took a couple of minutes and just kind of looked at all of the different things that are going on for you and maybe you can let me know, what would be the most helpful to spend-spend some time on? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_6_16.mp4 Okay. Well, one of the things that-that we use are these-- it's kind of like a worksheet and it's an agenda-setting worksheet basically. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_6_18.mp4 So if you were to-to list all of the different things that people around you are saying that you need to work on or you need to change, what would some of those things be? And, Sal, just because we write them down here, it doesn't mean that you have to change them. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_6_20.mp4 It really-- You're in the driver's seat, so it's just to kind of put all the cards on the table, so to speak. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_6_22.mp4 Yep. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_6_24.mp4 Okay, so asthma is one. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_6_26.mp4 What else? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_6_28.mp4 So your dog, and-and the doctor's saying the dog's— reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_6_30.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_6_32.mp4 That's pretty shocking to be told that you have to get rid of your dog. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_6_34.mp4 Hmm. So that's a huge stress right now? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_6_36.mp4 Okay, so smoking and-and I'm working towards quitting completely sounds like that's a goal for you? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_6_38.mp4 Okay, so money. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_6_40.mp4 Right. Right, right. So the appointments and time. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_6_42.mp4 Um, and some of these things are kind of related to each other I think we're already seeing. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_6_44.mp4 Okay, wow. So there's a lot happening right now, Sal. Anything else that that's concerning you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_6_46.mp4 Right. Well, so where would you-- I mean, if you-you had to pick somewhere, one or two kind of high priorities or-or things to talk about in our time this morning, where would you wanna start? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_6_48.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_6_50.mp4 Okay, and those are ones that are pretty related to each other- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_6_52.mp4 - sounds like. Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_7_0.mp4 So I know we've determined that you sprained your ankle yesterday and I'm wondering if you can tell me a little bit about how that happened? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_7_2.mp4 Sounds like a wild night. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_7_4.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_7_6.mp4 No, I guess that that would be the end of your, uh, shaking and moving. I know-- I wonder if you'd be open to exploring your alcohol use and what that looks like during the week. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_7_8.mp4 You're still feeling the effects of- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_7_10.mp4 -last night, are you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_7_12.mp4 Oh wow, it was- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_7_14.mp4 -really a rough night. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_7_16.mp4 So what is a typical week for you as far as your alcohol use? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_7_18.mp4 So a few drinks is nothing new to you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_7_20.mp4 And what does a few drinks look like? Is that per night? Is it two drinks? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_7_22.mp4 All right. Do you have any concerns at all about your alcohol use? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_7_24.mp4 Okay, so at this point, you're not too concerned and you think that, you know, this is what the other students are doing? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_7_26.mp4 Would you be open to kind of looking at the low-risk drinking alcohol guidelines? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_7_28.mp4 I don't know how you're feeling right now but I'm just wondering if we can take a-just a quick glance at this- question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_7_30.mp4 -and what the safe limits are for women is 10 drinks for women a week with about two drinks, uh, per day. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_7_32.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_7_34.mp4 Where do you- where do you feel you fall into that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_7_36.mp4 Okay, okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_7_38.mp4 Okay, so it's kind of a way to cope through stress? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_7_40.mp4 Right, and is that something that has been, you know, a way of coping for a while? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_7_42.mp4 Okay. Does that concern you at all? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_7_44.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_7_46.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_7_48.mp4 Do you feel like you have any reasons to kind of bring your alcohol use down within the limits? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_7_50.mp4 Tell me more about that. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_7_52.mp4 So you can see some advantages to reducing the amount of drinking- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_7_54.mp4 -um, that you consume during the week? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_7_56.mp4 Is this something you would be willing to explore with me a little further at another time maybe when you're feeling a little bit better? Is this something you'd be willing to come back and talk to me about? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_7_58.mp4 I'd love to, uh, set up an appointment for you if you can come in later this week or early next week to- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_7_60.mp4 -kind of explore this a little bit further and maybe some of those advantages of reducing to the safe limits. Is that something that we could do? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_7_62.mp4 That's okay with me. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_7_64.mp4 Thank you. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_8_0.mp4 So, what brings you here, Bob? What's, what can I do to help? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_8_2.mp4 So, you're not too happy to be here. This is the last thing that you want to be doing this afternoon. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_8_4.mp4 You've taken time off you, it's costing you time and money being here. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_8_6.mp4 So, let me ask you this, Bob, what are some of your wife's concerns about your smoking? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_8_8.mp4 Wow, that she's been showing you and making you read. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_8_10.mp4 So, you're pretty angry about it. It's pretty outraging that you're forced to change your whole life because of a decision she made six months ago. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_8_12.mp4 So, from your perspective, do you see any consequences to your smoking? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_8_14.mp4 So, let me make sure I understand kind of the whole scenario 'cause there's a lot of pieces to it. Your wife is on your case and your kids are ganging up too. So, you're sort of isolated, you're put in a corner and you're being told this is something you have to do, you have no choice in the matter. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_8_16.mp4 You have a few concerns about your health, but that's not really the driving force. It sounds like it's most of all that it would be nice if things just went back to the way they were before she quit smoking and that all of this stuff wasn't something that you had to deal with anymore. Does that pretty much sum up--? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_8_18.mp4 I get the feeling that your relationship is really important to you. That you would do anything. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_8_20.mp4 So, it strikes me that the way that we're talking about it, it's like it's all or nothing. Either you keep smoking the way you are, things continue to go downhill and get worse, your wife gets more and more on your case, or you put your cigarettes down starting the moment you walk in the door tonight and never pick them up again. It's almost like one or the other. It strikes me that as well there might be some middle ground here that it took you a long time to learn how to be a smoker and maybe it's going to take some time to learn how to stop smoking. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_8_22.mp4 There are some medications and some different approaches that we can use that aren't so abrupt. Recognizing that it-it's going to take some time and practice to get to where you might want to be. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_8_24.mp4 If you wanted to bring your wife along, I'd be more than happy to talk with both of you. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_8_26.mp4 Okay. That sounds good. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_8_28.mp4 Thanks for coming in. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_11_0.mp4 What else has brought you here? other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_11_2.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_11_4.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_11_6.mp4 Just enough for your own use? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_11_8.mp4 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_11_10.mp4 Yeah, we-- You know, we have about 15 to 20 minutes to talk today, total. Um-um, which certainly it's just the first of-of some sessions that we'll have together over the next six months. It'd be a natural question you'd wanna know how much time this will take, of course. Um, what else would you like me to know about you and your perspective that you think will help me work with you over this time? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_11_12.mp4 Okay. You're more focused on what you need to do to get this behind you? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_11_14.mp4 .Okay, mm-hmm. Well, I'm wondering then if it's okay with you and-and I have a form that we can use if you'd like, um, just to put out some different ideas on an agenda that we could share as we're working together so that I-I can support you to be successful in getting this behind you. Would-would this feel like a natural time to-to move towards figuring out where we might go together? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_12_0.mp4 Sarah, I'm so glad you came in for your well-woman exam today. I think we addressed a lot of your concerns. However, I would like to ask you more about your smoking. Would that be okay? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_12_2.mp4 Okay. So about how much are you smoking over the course of a day? You had said it had increased over once or twice a day. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_12_4.mp4 Okay. So about eight cigarettes. So over the course of a day, just under half a pack? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_12_6.mp4 Okay. And that's changed over what period of time? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_12_8.mp4 Okay. So over the past year, the smoking has increased. And that's been mainly in the evening? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_12_10.mp4 Mm-hmm. Well, that's the time when you can relax and unwind. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_12_11.mp4 Yeah, exactly. You know, I told you, my-my schedule is kinda crazy right now. I, um, I work full-time and I just started back at night classes. So, you know, all that combined, you know, I enjoy that time to myself in the evening. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_12_12.mp4 Sure. Sure. Well, it's a time to relax and you've got a lot going on. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_12_14.mp4 So are there other things you do in the evening to relax? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_12_16.mp4 Okay. A drink or two. So about how many drinks would you say you have over the course of a day? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_12_18.mp4 Two max. How many drinks would you say you'd have over the course of a week? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_12_20.mp4 No, I understand- I understand. And I'm certainly not here to tell you what to-to do, Sarah. I'm interested in hearing your thoughts and sharing some information with you, and what you do with that information is totally up to you. You've got a lot going on. You're a mother, you're working, you're going to school, and our healthcare team wants to make sure that you have all the resources available to you to meet your goals, including good health. And my job as your healthcare provider is to listen to you and to share information with you, including healthcare concerns associated with smoking and alcohol. Would that be okay with you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_12_22.mp4 Okay. Well, we do know that an increase in smoking and alcohol is associated with certain kinds of cancer; colon cancer, cervical cancer, breast cancer, lung cancer, and, um, also pancreatic cancer. It's also associated with liver and lung disease as well as heart disease, diabetes, and hypertension. So that's a lot of information, but I'm- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_12_24.mp4 -interested in what your thoughts are, Sarah. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_12_26.mp4 So you're consciously trying to cut back. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_12_28.mp4 I have a readiness ruler in my pocket here, 0 means not ready to stop smoking at all and 10 means absolutely ready to stop smoking. Where do you see yourself on that scale? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_12_30.mp4 About a five. So you're halfway there. So why did you choose a five rather than a four? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_12_32.mp4 Right. Well, that's a lot of information to think about. So given, the fact that these healthcare concerns are a possibility, and that you're worried about your family and you certainly have goals you want to succeed at, where are you in your consideration to making a change? In other words, what steps would you consider taking for this number to move closer to a 10? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_12_34.mp4 Okay, great. Let's quantify that a little bit. So how many cigarettes would that be? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_12_36.mp4 Okay. So you-- that's cutting back quite a bit. That's a big step. So since we're kind of running out of time here today, I'm wondering if we could-- would be willing to come back in about four weeks to review this plan? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_12_38.mp4 Okay, good. So we can go over your laboratory results at that time, as well as review your plan. Now, would you like some information on smoking cessation? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_12_40.mp4 Okay. Well, I've got a brochure here and this has-- it's a really good brochure. It has some distraction techniques in it in case you get those nicotine cravings. So it's- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_12_42.mp4 -been helpful, um, in-- with patients before. I'd also like to ask you, would you be willing to see one of our counselors? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_12_44.mp4 Well, Dr. Kirtley is one of our counselors and he is an expert in-- at discussing the association between alcohol and stress. I want to share something with you. The National Guidelines recommend that women have no more than seven drinks of alcohol per week to-to stay at that low risk level, to avoid the healthcare concerns that we spoke of earlier. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_12_46.mp4 You've indicated that your alcohol consumption is a bit higher than that, putting you at risk. So that's why I asked if you'd be willing to talk to Dr. Kirtley. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_12_48.mp4 Certainly, certainly. I'm glad you're willing to talk to him. So before you leave here today, we'll, uh, stop by the scheduler's desk and make an appointment for you to see me back in four weeks, as well as the appointment with Dr. Kirtley. And that way, before you leave, you're all set. So do you have any other questions for me, Sarah? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_12_50.mp4 Okay. Well, it's very nice to meet you. I'll see you in a month. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_13_0.mp4 Hi, Mrs. Smith. I wanted to let you know that at this appointment, we're gonna be giving Lilly some vaccines. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_13_2.mp4 Hmm. Can you tell me more about your concerns about vaccines? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_13_4.mp4 Okay, so you were thinking that maybe exposing Lily naturally to these diseases would be a better choice than using vaccines to help her get stronger? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_13_6.mp4 That's right. Having chickenpox as a child means that you are less likely to have chickenpox as an adult because you've developed a-a natural immunity. Uh, but is it okay if I offer you a little bit more information about the other vaccines that we're- we were going to give her Lily today? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_13_8.mp4 Okay. So, uh, before vaccines were developed, often when children had a natural exposure to some of these diseases, they ended up with, uh, sometimes death, disability, measles caused brain damage and, uh, deafness and blindness. Polio caused, uh, paralysis in children. And so, allowing children to have natural exposure to these diseases, sometimes was a little bit of a gamble, it could be dangerous. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_13_10.mp4 Hmm. Some of these things I've mentioned to you, you're-you're not familiar with. Uh, and I think that's because we've done such a good job of eliminating some of these diseases that a lot of people your age, and even my age, are unfamiliar with those things. Um, so having shared this information with you, what do you think about the idea of vaccines for-for Lilly? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_13_12.mp4 It's really important for you to make sure that she's protected and that you make good decisions and do your research before you make any medical decisions for her. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_14_0.mp4 So, again, I hear your overall goal is really, to not give up these things you'd like but to cut back on how much you have- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_14_2.mp4 -on that. All right. So, I'd like to ask you, uh, kind of a scaling question about this 'cause I'm hearing that this feels really important to you that you'd be way up there on the high- on the high end of importance. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_14_4.mp4 "So, I'm gonna ask the question this way, on a scale of 0 to 10, where 0 is not at all confident, and 10 is like, ""I'm very, very confident,"" where would you put yourself on a scale right now of confidence in starting this new plan? " question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_14_6.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_14_8.mp4 A six. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_14_10.mp4 Okay. All right. So, let's talk about that, um, so we should just assume we're gonna be at a four. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_14_12.mp4 Okay? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_14_14.mp4 So, why are you at a four and not even a lower number? Why are you not like a zero or a one? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_14_16.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_14_18.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_14_20.mp4 Uh-huh. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_14_22.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_14_24.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_14_26.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_14_28.mp4 Okay, all right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_14_30.mp4 Okay. So, what would help increase that confidence? What-- Because that sounds like where we really need to focus on. What's gonna help you feel more confident about this? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_14_32.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_14_34.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_14_36.mp4 Uh-huh. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_14_38.mp4 Uh-huh. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_14_40.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_14_42.mp4 All right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_14_44.mp4 All right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_14_46.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_14_48.mp4 All right. Well, if it's okay, just for a moment, let's put the- let's put the changing the eating pattern off to the side, and let's take a look at some other time in your life that there was something you really wanted to accomplish and you did. And what is it about you- what was it about you? What kind of strengths did you bring to the table that allowed you to tackle something that felt like a challenge and-and allowed you to be successful? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_16_0.mp4 So, Rick, just in regards to your flatmate situation at the moment with Tristan. Uh, you know, we talked about how walking through this program and with the support of your parents and having some positive influence to help you through this. I just want to rethink a bit if you stay living with Tristan. What are the sort of pros and cons of that? What are the good things about living there, what are the not-so-good things about living there? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_16_2.mp4 Yeah. So, in terms of being supportive and a sort of support you're gonna need to make these changes. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_16_4.mp4 What's your thinking around that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_16_6.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_16_8.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_16_10.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_16_12.mp4 Okay. You're good to explore, but I just want to ask you about, how much does Chris-Christian-Christian know-- Tristan know about you changing your life? What does he really know about the changes you wanna make? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_16_14.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_16_16.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_16_18.mp4 Okay. What are some of the pros and cons about moving in with whāna, moving in with your auntie and uncle? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_16_20.mp4 In terms of that freedom and in charge of yourself, and the changes that we're talking about, and building your own family, and to enable you to do that, where do some of that freedom stuff sit with re-engaging back with your whānau and your children, your partner? Is it something you're gonna wanna hang on to, or how you're going to manage that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_16_22.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_0.mp4 So I get a sense it's a little anxious being here today and, uh, meeting someone like me, and, um, what we're gonna be doing today is-is inducting, but also I wanna talk about, um, yeah, the issues that-that have got you here and we need to do some sorting out around, um, yeah how serious you are to sort of sort those issues. So? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_2.mp4 Sorry? other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_4.mp4 All right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_6.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_8.mp4 So first, it might be trying to sort out what are the important issues to sort out. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_10.mp4 Yeah, that makes sense? Yeah? So how confident are you that-that, you know, you can sort out the issues related to, um, you know, uh, taking the money from your employer? And another thing, in your precinct's report, there were some issues around gambling, and some issues around alcohol use. So those seem to be important issues that are kind of getting out. So how confident are you that you can get those sorted in the nine months we've got? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_12.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_14.mp4 Yeah, yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_16.mp4 Yeah. See one of the things I'll be really interested in-in talking with you about is, um, yeah, what's-what's the, um, what's the worst thing that has happened in terms of pokies, in terms of you know behavior around the pokies, what's the worst thing that's happened? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_18.mp4 Yeah, yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_20.mp4 Yeah. So how often do you end up with no money in your pocket? Can be the times when you end up with money in your pocket question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_22.mp4 Yeah, yeah. So if we were to think back, say the last month, the last four weeks, how many times would you have gone down to the- to the pokies, the pub? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_24.mp4 Yeah. Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_26.mp4 That-that you're up for the money and-and then-then they slot you. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_28.mp4 Okay. So-so thinking about this, say a couple times a week, you know, two or three? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_30.mp4 Yeah, yeah, yeah? So that's 12 times. So how many times would you have walked away with money in your pocket after, any out of the 12, what's your- what's your sense? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_32.mp4 Okay. Okay. So you're saying about 50-50? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_34.mp4 'Cause you have to understand the odds are about-- sort of-of tend to be about 25% on the 100, that-that's [crosstalk] therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_36.mp4 Yeah, you might be lucky then. So-so what do you reckon like in terms of like you're saying you're not sort of sure if that's an issue, and that's probably something that we can be working with, uh, figure it is an issue. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_38.mp4 And, yeah, it might be an issue, I don't know if it's an issue at this point. It'll be interesting to sort of talk about that. But I'm wondering what happens, yeah, when-when you get on the pokies out there, they're certainly at the pub, pokies around? So what happens in your body when, um— question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_40.mp4 A bit of a rush. Yeah. 'Cause other people I have worked with say that, yeah, sometimes they get a bit of a rush, that somehow the rush takes over and they don't know when to stop. Not sure if that's what- if that's what it's like for you, but other people have told me that, so. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_42.mp4 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So that could be an issue we could spend some time talking about here, 'cause obviously you know, you don't- you don't - you don't wanna be here, and then my interest now is just getting you o-out of the system, not getting you into the systems. So-so here, um-- how-how much do you think this is an issue for you, you reckon? The pokies and the gambling. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_44.mp4 Yeah, yeah. Thinking about your friends, you know, how would you soft of think about your friends 'cause, you know, I guess you go out with your girlfriends and stuff. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_46.mp4 Yeah, yeah. So, in terms of their behavior, like how did your behavior sort of match with their behavior? Are they much the same as you, are they different than you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_48.mp4 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then, in terms of the pokies and stuff they much as they like doing the pokies so much as your doing the-- You know, compared to you doing the pokies? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_50.mp4 Oh, okay, okay. Who's-who's-- What's your girlfriend's name, your best- your best friend, best girl friend? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_52.mp4 Sarah, So what do you think Sarah would say? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_54.mp4 What would she say about— question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_56.mp4 Yeah, what would she say about-- 'cause she knows you pretty well. She'll-she'll-- she goes to the pubs with you probably and see you putting the money on pokies, what would she reckon? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_58.mp4 Absolutely, and that's what you want from friends, isn't it? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_60.mp4 You want that acceptance, absolutely, yeah, yeah. But won't you say, you know, friends also-- good friends also can, you know, call you on stuff too, can't they? Yeah? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_62.mp4 At times. Yeah, so-so what you-- wha-what she might say to us about about- a-a-about your gambling? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_64.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_66.mp4 Okay. But you owe her some money and you get the sense that-- Or I'm picking up, you get a sense that she's not terribly happy. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_68.mp4 Yeah, yeah, okay, okay. So Sarah might see it as an issue. And-and I guess there's a part of you also sees it as an issue, part of you, you know. Part of you may not, but a part of you does. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_70.mp4 So the part of you that does see this is-- as an issue, yeah, that the gambling sometimes can be out of control, you know, tell me that part of you that-that maybe knows that, uh, it's getting you into trouble and it's gone way-- just moved you off from that point, there have been some— question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_72.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_74.mp4 Mm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_76.mp4 Yeah, and-and in some ways getting caught might be a good thing. I know it might sound a re-really sort of strange thing to say, but I wonder if like getting caught might have been a good thing. Because you would have read the papers about other people's of-- you know. They're the hands that would turn on stuff and end up with gambling problems and big money. So I want- I want to hear much that it might have been a good thing that you got caught at this stage, and you got a chance to do some talking about it and working around some strategies to get it under control so it doesn't control you. What's your hunch about that? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_78.mp4 Yeah. Yeah, so you're not a bad person. Certainly, I don't make judgments about people being bad people. So that seems sort of actually thinking about this, you sensed that you could've stopped. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_80.mp4 Have you put on a kind of real hat, you know, you get a real hat here, you know? What-what's your hunch about that? Is it a kind of-- that kind of realization it's a bit of a smoke screen, what's your hunch? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_82.mp4 How about then your-your kind of hunch about that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_84.mp4 Mm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_86.mp4 Yeah- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_88.mp4 -so, what did it add up to, at the end of the day? What are we talking here? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_90.mp4 Yeah, yeah. It's a little bit here, a little bit there, so it then adds up, yeah? Yeah. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_92.mp4 Mm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_94.mp4 Yeah. Okay. So-so, there's some-some questions you've got around some-some ways you, kind of, explained them. And then, as we work together, you know, we-- there might be some other ways we look at it and see it too, you know, that-that's part of working together. So, I'm wondering, how open are you to, you know, seeing this situation from lots of different angles? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_96.mp4 Yeah? Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_98.mp4 Yeah, yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_100.mp4 Okay. So, what other things have you've been open to at other times in your life when you've been open to-to new ideas and being able to talk about stuff, that may be tough to talk about? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_102.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_104.mp4 Yeah, and-and, coming in, talking to a stranger, you know, and someone who can be honest to what you did, talking to a stranger, coming in this time, what do you sense about how you're doing so far? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_106.mp4 Mm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_108.mp4 Yeah. You know, like-- I-- And, some people wouldn't even, sort of, get in the door or wouldn't be as open as you've been today, okay, to an extent, so, you know, like I said, good on you, yeah. You know, being able to-- It's hard to come to a place like this and start to really open up, so, you know, you've just shown that you can do that. Yeah. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_110.mp4 Well, you have a choice about what you open up to me about. Absolutely, you have a choice about that, yeah. That coming, being on sentence, no, you don't have a choice about that, um, well, you have a choice, 'cause, I mean, you can choose not to come, and you'll be breached and get to head back to court. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_112.mp4 Um, but you do have a choice about how you are here when we meet, and what-what we talk about here. So, um, you know, so you do have lots of choices within that. And, my sense is you're, sort of, you know, a young woman who will make some good choices about that 'cause you're not a bad person, and you know that. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_18_114.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_19_0.mp4 So you're sick of this? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_19_2.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_19_4.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_19_6.mp4 So, it sounds like you're ready. You're ready to give this up. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_19_8.mp4 But, maybe the path to doing that isn't so clear. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_19_10.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_19_12.mp4 And it's fun. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_19_14.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_19_16.mp4 Uh-huh. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_20_0.mp4 So I wrote a prescription for antibiotics for Aiden. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_20_2.mp4 Um, I did wanna talk to you though. I'm a little bit concerned looking through his chart of how many ear infections he's had recently. And I-I noticed that you had checked the box that someone's smoking in the home. So I was wondering if you can tell me a little more about that. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_20_4.mp4 You have a lot of things going on and smoking's kind of a way to relax and destress. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_20_6.mp4 Sure. And it sounds like you're trying not to smoke around him. Why did you make that decision? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_20_8.mp4 So on the one hand, you're worried about how your smoking might be affecting him and on the other hand, you're not so sure if it's really the smoking that's causing these problems? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_20_10.mp4 What made you decide to quit smoking when you were pregnant? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_20_12.mp4 Right now, though, it feels almost too difficult to even manage or even to try? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_20_14.mp4 How were you successful when you quit before? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_20_16.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_20_18.mp4 Mm-hmm. The risks were so scary then that you were able to stop? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_20_20.mp4 But they don't feel as scary to you now? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_20_22.mp4 You're doing the best you can do. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_20_24.mp4 Okay. But it sounds to me too like part of you really does want to quit? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_20_26.mp4 It's on your to-do list. It's just not making it to the top? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_20_28.mp4 If you did decide to quit on a scale of 1 to 10, where 1 is not at all confident, and you don't think you could do it and 10 is you feel pretty certain that you could, where do you think you fall right now? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_20_30.mp4 Well, what made you say five rather than two or three? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_20_32.mp4 Okay. So it sounds like you have a lot of reasons why you'd like to quit. You have been successful quitting in the past, and right now you're just feeling a little bit hesitant about your ability to do it? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_20_34.mp4 Where do you think we should go from here? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_20_36.mp4 Sure. Well, if you'd be interested, that's something I can definitely talk to you about. There are a lot of new options that can actually help people be way more successful in their attempt at quitting. There's different medications you can try. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_20_38.mp4 Okay. There's also a lot of support groups and classes that you can take where you have other people to go through it with you. And sometimes just having that support can be a big part of it, especially for people like you where smoking is such a stress reliever. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_20_40.mp4 Sure. It feels like something that would take up a lot of time and maybe not fit into your life. I wonder if we could talk about some options that might fit into your life. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_20_42.mp4 Okay. Well, if you're willing, then we could set up another appointment where you could come in and we could talk more about that. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_20_44.mp4 Great. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_20_46.mp4 Sure. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_0.mp4 Hi, Laura. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_2.mp4 Thanks for coming in. Um, so, I'm not sure how much you know already about sort of what you're doing here. If it's okay, I'll give you a little rundown. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_4.mp4 So, basically, we're here, I'm just gonna talk to you for a little bit about sort of what your goals are for your life, um, get to know you a little bit better and talk about some different behaviors that you might be engaging in. It's not my job at all to judge you or to try and change you, you know. Basically, I'm gonna talk to you about how things are going, any changes you might want to make in your life, how I could help you with that, and just what I can do that's going to be most beneficial for you. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_6.mp4 Does that sound okay? other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_8.mp4 All right, so, I guess just to get started, can you tell me a little bit about yourself? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_10.mp4 Okay. And, what kinds of things do you plan for your life? other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_12.mp4 Hm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_14.mp4 That's great. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_16.mp4 Do you have a plan as to where you might want to go or? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_18.mp4 Oh. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_20.mp4 Cool. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_22.mp4 So, kind of keeping your options open. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_24.mp4 Great. And, do you have an idea about what you might want to study or? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_26.mp4 Oh, wow. Okay, that's exciting. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_28.mp4 All right, cool. Uh, what do you like to do for fun? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_30.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_32.mp4 You like to have a good time? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_34.mp4 And, you have a lot of friends or a few close people, or? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_36.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_38.mp4 All right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_40.mp4 That's a good way to be, right? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_42.mp4 All right, so, um, it sounds like, in general, your-- Things are going pretty well for you. How are your grades right now? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_44.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_46.mp4 Great. Well, one thing I want to ask about is, you know, different people have sort of different values or things that are important to them. They might, you know, be really close with family or really have, you know, their friends as being something particularly important. So, I'm gonna show you just a few things on this sheet, and if you can look at them all. So, there's things like belonging, community, cultural identity, family, friendship, modesty, religion, respect, self-determination and spirituality. Which of those do you think is sort of important to you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_48.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_50.mp4 What's important to you about your family? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_52.mp4 Hm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_54.mp4 Okay. Do you have brothers or sisters? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_56.mp4 Okay, great. And, how about friendship? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_58.mp4 Great. So, being a good friend and- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_60.mp4 -having people who are good friends, too, is important. And then, what about belonging? You mentioned that one too. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_62.mp4 Hm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_64.mp4 Yeah. Wanting to be part of a group- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_66.mp4 -and kinda. Okay, great. All right, well, one of the things I wanna talk about is, you know, um, you mentioned that you'd like to go out with friends and-and party, and that sort of a thing. And, I'm curious, when you're out in the parties, do you ever have any alcohol? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_68.mp4 Okay. Can you tell me a little bit about how alcohol fits into your overall social scene? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_70.mp4 Hm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_72.mp4 Okay, you're kinda getting pressure from other people who are drinking, and it feels easier for you to- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_76.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_78.mp4 And, do you think that, um, this is most weekends or occasionally? How- question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_80.mp4 -often do you think that you are around alcohol. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_82.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_84.mp4 So, one or two weekends a month you're in a situation where there is alcohol? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_86.mp4 Okay. And what sort of situations are you in? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_88.mp4 Uh-huh. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_90.mp4 Hm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_92.mp4 So, mainly, just kinda hanging out with friends. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_94.mp4 Are you ever, um, places where there are parents around or- question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_96.mp4 -or mostly just-just with the kids? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_98.mp4 Mm-hmm. And, what about driving? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_100.mp4 Yeah. Do you ever go anywhere in a car after you've had any alcohol? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_102.mp4 Okay. So, that's something that you've sort of made a decision about. It sound like you— reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_104.mp4 Okay. What do you know about how that's dangerous? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_106.mp4 So, you're really are trying to be safe and-and make sure that- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_108.mp4 -you're not putting yourself- question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_110.mp4 -in those situations? That's great. You know, it's-it's tough to do sometimes, and I really commend you for being able to-to stick with that. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_112.mp4 So, you mentioned, you pretty much will like hold a drink or maybe have a drink or two. What do you thinks is the most alcohol you've ever had in-in one day? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_114.mp4 Okay. So, the-the absolute most- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_116.mp4 -was two? Okay. And, what kinds of things do you like about alcohol? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_118.mp4 Uh-huh. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_120.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_122.mp4 So, it just kind of makes you feel relaxed or? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_124.mp4 Okay. Uh, anything else? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_126.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_128.mp4 Okay. And, any not-so-good things about alcohol? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_130.mp4 Mm-hmm. So, you've seen a lot of other kids who- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_132.mp4 -had some consequences- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_134.mp4 -and decided that's not for you? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_136.mp4 Got it. I-I can understand that. [chuckles] Uh, any other things that you can think of? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_138.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_140.mp4 Okay. Well, so, you know, as someone who's not 21 yet, it is-- Underage drinking is something that's not legal- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_142.mp4 -and it is something that is considered pretty risky. So, I wonder what you think about that, just in terms of how it fits into your life. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_144.mp4 Uh-huh. So, it's kind of something that you're— other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_146.mp4 It's just there? Okay. And, I'm curious, you mentioned, you know, your friends are important to you, and your family's important to you, and, sort of fitting in is important to you. How does alcohol play a role with that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_148.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_150.mp4 Okay. So, from your family perspective, the drinking is not something that fits very well? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_152.mp4 And with friends, you feel like it's easier to-to hang out with alcohol, or maybe you wouldn't have as much fun, or your friends wouldn't like you as much or? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_154.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_156.mp4 Got it. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_158.mp4 Okay. Well, when you think about your drinking and, sort of, looking forward in 5 years or 10 years, how do you think that drinking might fit in with your life? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_160.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_162.mp4 Okay. Can you expand on that a little bit more? What do you mean? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_164.mp4 Okay, so, the-the alcohol is something that might make it harder to reach your goals? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_166.mp4 Um, so, when you're sort of looking ahead, how often do you think you might be drinking, say, when you get to college? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_168.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_170.mp4 Okay. So, you sort of have a plan to cut back on- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_172.mp4 -your drinking eventually? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_174.mp4 How might that go? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_176.mp4 Yeah, so, you don't feel the need to make any major changes, but you feel like you could make some adjustments that would make it easier or— reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_178.mp4 Okay. How important is it to you to make some adjustments to your drinking, on a scale of 1 to 10? Where 1 is not at all important, not something you're thinking about, and 10 is most important thing. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_180.mp4 And why did you say five or six rather than like two or three? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_182.mp4 Okay. So, it is something you have thought about or something. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_184.mp4 Okay. And, how confident are you that you could make a change if you decide you wanted to on that same scale? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_186.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_188.mp4 So, what number do you think you'd say? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_190.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_192.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_194.mp4 Okay, and why'd you say 8 or 9 rather than even like 5 or 6? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_196.mp4 Okay. All right. Well, kind of keeping that in mind, it sounds like, um, you do have sort of a-a vague plan to make some adjustments in your drinking at some point- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_198.mp4 -and, it's moderately important to you. It's something you would like to do because you have these big goals for yourself, and you actually feel very confident that you could be successful with it. What sort of goal do you think might be good to set for today? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_200.mp4 Okay. Um, do you feel pretty confident that you could just stop completely? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_202.mp4 Uh-huh. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_204.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_206.mp4 What-what might be some benefits of following through with that goal? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_208.mp4 Uh-huh. Anything else? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_210.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_212.mp4 Okay. So, it's-- It sounds like you're actually pretty comfortable with setting a goal of not drinking anymore a-at least at the next part? and seeing how it goes. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_214.mp4 Okay. Do you think it would be all right if we met again to kinda check in on how it goes and-and see if it's working out for you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_216.mp4 All right, great. And then, i-it sounds like some of the benefits you're expecting are, um, health benefits- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_218.mp4 -having an easier time with achieving your academic and career goals, and just sort of not having to deal with some of the consequences that your peers do. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_220.mp4 Okay. Well, very good. Um, is there anything else that you think would be important for me to know? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_222.mp4 Oh, that's a great question. So, a lot of times, kids who are trying to cut back, it's harder if their friends are still drinking, and one of the easiest things is trying to have more activities that don't involve alcohol, but- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_224.mp4 -of course, that's harder if you're not the one planning. So, some of the things that can be useful if you're at a party say, um, and there's already alcohol there, and there are other kids that maybe aren't your closest friends, um, some of the things that I would recommend since you're interested are, you know, carrying around a different drink that looks like it has alcohol in it. So, you know, even carrying an empty beer bottle or beer can or, you know, if people are having a mixed drink, just having the coke, say- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_226.mp4 -without any alcohol mixed into it. Um, often, having anything in your hand is a good barrier for people who are trying to offer you alcohol, because you already have something in your hand- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_228.mp4 -and it-it kinda, um, prevents them from trying to stuff something else in there. Do you think any of those things might work for you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_230.mp4 Okay. What about in terms of talking to your friends about it, have you thought about how you might approach with them or is that something else you'd like some tips about, about telling them about your plan to- question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_232.mp4 -to stop drinking. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_234.mp4 Uh-huh. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_236.mp4 Your friends would be pretty comfortable with that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_238.mp4 Okay, great. Any other concerns or questions? Anything else I can help with? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_240.mp4 Okay. So then, like I said, um, I'll try and see if we can meet up maybe in a few weeks and see how it's going- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_242.mp4 -and then, um, if things are going great, then fantastic, and if you run into any stumbling blocks, then we can maybe problem-solve together. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_244.mp4 That sound okay? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_21_246.mp4 All right. Thanks so much. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_22_0.mp4 You did your values clarification handout, and that was part of what I wanted to go over with you today. I wanted to hear about your values and just talk to you a little bit more about that. Do-do you wanna tell me what some of your top five values are? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_22_2.mp4 That's number one? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_22_4.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_22_6.mp4 Oh. So, right now family value is the most important thing to you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_22_8.mp4 Family happiness? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_22_10.mp4 Okay. Would you like to talk more about that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_22_12.mp4 Mm. Because even though it's important to you, maybe they don't know it's important to you. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_22_14.mp4 Is that what you're saying? Yes? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_22_16.mp4 And you want them to know? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_22_18.mp4 Uh-huh. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_22_20.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_22_22.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_22_24.mp4 Uh-huh. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_22_26.mp4 Right. So, right now, it really is important to you to put the family values first? And religion is still very important to you, but you feel like maybe you're losing faith a little bit? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_22_28.mp4 Uh-huh. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_22_30.mp4 Because you know that other people experience it too. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_22_32.mp4 So, you know it's normal. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_22_34.mp4 But sometimes it's not something that people talk about. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_22_36.mp4 Especially in the church. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_22_38.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_22_40.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_22_42.mp4 And it sounds like right now you're at a place of acceptance about that also. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_22_44.mp4 Uh, that it's okay with you, and you-you know that it's gonna change because that's been your, uh, experience. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_22_46.mp4 You've done numerous values clarification handouts and every time they're different- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_22_48.mp4 -so you know that it's going to change. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_22_50.mp4 And you accept that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_22_52.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_22_54.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_22_56.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_22_58.mp4 Yes. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_22_60.mp4 I really applaud you for being open-minded enough to realize that where you are now is not necessarily where you are, that you don't have to always have it be the same. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_0.mp4 Hi, Hannah. Nice to meet you. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_2.mp4 So I understand that you were referred to me by your GP because you've been experiencing some anxiety difficulties. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_4.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_6.mp4 Okay. Is this the first time that you've left home? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_8.mp4 Okay. So it has been quite a big step and a big change and it sounds like that that was what led you to go to your GP. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_10.mp4 So how has that, uh, changed things for you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_12.mp4 Okay. So how do you feel about being here today? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_14.mp4 Okay. So you'd, you're feeling a little bit anxious about today. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_16.mp4 Okay. So I guess just going back to why you went to the GP and how you've ended up kind of coming here today. So it sounds like you've been experiencing anxiety for quite a few years. Um, but just recently you moved out of home for the first time and, um, and that was what kind of led you to go to the GP. So how did that change things? How were things after you moved out? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_18.mp4 Okay. So what other kinds of difficulties that you have been experiencing? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_20.mp4 Okay. So you said that, um, your difficulties are getting in the way of you doing certain things. So they're, they're stopping you from taking up kind of certain types of work and as a freelance photographer, I guess that- that can be kind of a problem. And they're also stopping you or you feel like it's stunting you, uh, socially. You're not kind of able to make new friends and get to meet new people. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_22.mp4 So you're kind of worried about how, where this is going to lead to. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_24.mp4 So you said that you first noticed the anxiety kicking in about five or six years ago. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_26.mp4 So you would have been about 19. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_28.mp4 And what was happening around that time? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_30.mp4 What kind of work is the most difficult for you in your job? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_32.mp4 So I guess, tell me a bit more about what happens then. So let's focus on maybe an invitation to do a job with, uh, you know, it's going to involve, uh, photography with- with a group of people and you're going to have to have social interaction. What kind of thoughts go through your head? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_34.mp4 "Okay. So it sounds like you have quite a lot of thoughts rushing through your head then at the point where you get that invitation and you think, ""People will look, people will stare, people will think I'm a weirdo."" So there's quite a lot about what you- what you think other the people will think. And how does that make you feel? " reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_36.mp4 Okay. Can you give me an example of a-a recent situation? Maybe we can focus on that. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_38.mp4 Yeah, time when you were maybe doing a job with some people and you felt the social anxiety, you know, that you're describing, you felt that kick in. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_40.mp4 It's quite interesting. Was that a fashion shoot or something? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_42.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_44.mp4 So it wasn't what you expected? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_46.mp4 So how long ago was that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_48.mp4 Okay. So it was quite recent. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_50.mp4 So on that particular day, what were the thoughts that you had in your head when you were in that situation? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_52.mp4 I can tell you're getting kind of anxious, even just thinking about that day. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_54.mp4 Okay. So you're describing quite a lot there to me. So you're saying that you, you kind of got hot and sweaty, you said that you- you held the camera. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_56.mp4 W-what was, do you mean you kind of try to hide behind it or? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_58.mp4 So you're holding the camera very tightly. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_60.mp4 W-why was that? Why was that helpful? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_62.mp4 Okay. So, okay. So it sounds like you had a lot of thoughts going through your head. Um, you said that you're worried that everyone's looking at you. What other thoughts were there that were in your mind? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_64.mp4 They could tell what— question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_66.mp4 Oh, it was all-all that they could see that-that was- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_68.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_70.mp4 So, I mean, you've already described it to me a little bit, but if you think about how you looked that day, how'd-how'd you say, how'd you think you looked? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_72.mp4 Okay and what-what did you do about-- How did you try and conceal that or hide that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_74.mp4 So you avoided looking at people. It sounds like you wore black as well in kind of preparation anyway. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_76.mp4 Okay and how did it end? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_23_78.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_24_0.mp4 Hey, can I help you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_24_2.mp4 So your workplaces went smoke-free and you're not too pleased, huh? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_24_4.mp4 Okay. Tell me a little bit about how smoking fits in your day. It'll help with the— question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_24_6.mp4 Okay. So you feel like, right now, smoking's a pretty important part of your life. It's not something you're ready to change, but if the time came when you did decide to quit, you feel pretty confident that you could go ahead and do that. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_24_8.mp4 Okay. What makes you so confident? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_24_10.mp4 Mm-hmm. And so in terms of, uh, uh, readiness to actually go ahead and make a quit attempt, where do you think you fall on the scale of 1 to 10, where one is, I'm not considering it at all, and 10 is, I'm definitely ready, I wanna quit. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_24_12.mp4 Okay. What made you say two instead of one? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_24_14.mp4 Well, there are a lot of products available now that can actually help you curb that urge to smoke. We have products that can help to replace nicotine, which can help to decrease withdrawal symptoms that you might experience when quitting or cutting down and also some medications that your doctor could prescribe for you that might take away even some of the desire to smoke. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_24_16.mp4 Sure. And back to that scale, you mentioned, you said you were a two. What do you think it would take to move you up to a four or five? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_24_18.mp4 Sure. I wonder if now that your workplace is going smoke-free, if there will be some people at work who planning to quit. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_24_20.mp4 Okay. Well, it sounds like you're really here just for information today. I'm happy to help you pick out some of these products if and when you decide that the time is right for you. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_25_0.mp4 So, Liz, what's something that you'd like to change or maybe that you're feeling two ways about right now? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_25_2.mp4 Okay, and-and why would you want to make this change? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_25_4.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_25_6.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_25_8.mp4 Yeah. So, you're not feeling comfortable with the way that, you said, your clothes fit. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_25_10.mp4 What are some of the reasons why, um, it would be good for you to kinda make this change? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_25_12.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_25_14.mp4 So, to heal-- feel healthy for yourself as well be a good role model for your kids? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_25_16.mp4 So, if you did decide to get exercising more into your daily routine, how would you go about doing it? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_25_18.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_25_20.mp4 So, it's that balance of doing something for yourself, but it sounds like you don't want that schedule to affect too much into your family routine. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_25_22.mp4 So, on a scale from 1 to 10, 1 being not important and 10 being very important, where would you rate yourself on how important it is to start exercising more? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_25_24.mp4 Okay, and how come not at like a five or a six? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_25_26.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_25_28.mp4 So, to summarize, it's important for you to do this. You're starting to feel sluggish, you're not feeling healthy, and you know that you've got other people in your family watching you, and you want to be a good role model for them to know that this is gonna be just a part of your life, is your exercise. Yet for you, you're struggling just a little with the logistics of when to schedule time for you so it doesn't interfere too much with your family. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_25_30.mp4 So, knowing this, what do you think you'll do next? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_25_32.mp4 That's great. It sounds like you've got some options and leads on how- on how to get that done. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_26_0.mp4 So what's been going on? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_26_2.mp4 All right. yeah, I was told that you're phone calls was taken away reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_26_4.mp4 What-what happened? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_26_6.mp4 Okay. yeah, it was weird when I, uh, got that report because for the most part since you've been here, uh, you'd been like, uh, model-model resident, uh, always making their bed, uh, been pretty, uh, respectful of the staff, of all the other residents. So, uh, is it something to do with you getting out in three weeks? It must be pretty hard. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_26_8.mp4 Mm-hmm. Yeah, you used to have contact with your mom, you know, almost every other night and now for just about a week, you haven't even gotten to talk to her. I can imagine that being pretty difficult. I remember you saying something about like your dad's birthday coming up? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_26_10.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_26_12.mp4 Like I said, it's been, um, a long time and this is basically the first time that we've seen this behavior from you, so I know for a lot of other guys right before they get out, uh, a lot of anxiety, a lot of frustration comes around because they haven't been out in a while and then like the pressures of being on the outside are starting to settle in. So is that something might be going on with you? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_0.mp4 Hi Carrie, thanks for coming in today. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_2.mp4 What brings you in? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_4.mp4 So, you'd like to give up those cigarettes? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_6.mp4 Yeah, so then it's, um, right now, uh, tell me a little bit about, um, right now at this point in your life why it's so important to quit. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_8.mp4 Like being a leper in a leper colony right now to be a smoker. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_10.mp4 'Cause you can't find a leper colony anymore. So, um, so it-it's really important for you to be a good mum- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_12.mp4 -and model for your- for your daughter who's at this age where 15 would be a really common age at which she might decide to smoke. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_14.mp4 Okay. So, you-you wanna look good, you know, and she's proud of you I'm sure anyway and then this just would be an added benefit. Yeah. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_16.mp4 So, and then you mentioned quite a few things about medical problems. So, um, you mentioned, um, asthma, um, acute bronchitis did you say— reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_18.mp4 Oh my goodness. Okay. And so, and that-- yeah, that's very-- that's really scary beginnings of emphysema, I'm sorry to hear that. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_20.mp4 Well, I mean that's-that's, you know, tell me about when you were diagnosed with that. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_22.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_24.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_26.mp4 Smart girl. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_28.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_30.mp4 Tell me a little bit about what happened with the-the Chantix. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_32.mp4 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Wh-What sort of if-if you are willing to talk about what kind of side effect— question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_34.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_36.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_38.mp4 Oh really. You know, and I've heard that too, Carrie, that people especially you know those are, um, some people seem to have a lot of success but when people do have the adverse side effects they are really pronounced like the ones you just described. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_40.mp4 Want the good [crosstalk] no good right? And how long ago was that that you— question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_42.mp4 Okay, all right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_46.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_48.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_50.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_52.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_54.mp4 It just didn't fit for you to do the online. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_56.mp4 Okay. So, um, but you gave it a good try and it was just not a good fit for you like you-you really listened to what your body told you like nightmares, nausea, I mean those are really bad things. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_58.mp4 Oh yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_60.mp4 So, it's already piled I'm thinking up for you, you don't need anything else so you're looking for some relief and not something to make you feel worse. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_62.mp4 Um, have there been some times in the past where you were able to quit smoking completely? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_64.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_66.mp4 Okay. So, what's the longest you've ever gone without a cigarette including being in the hospital? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_68.mp4 Oh, three days. You know, that's a long time and I felt, you know, that's a pretty long time to go without smoking and I would imagine, I think that's pretty good. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_70.mp4 You were forced to- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_72.mp4 -not smoke? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_74.mp4 What did you notice during those three days when you weren't smoking? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_80.mp4 You were [unintelligible 00:06:04] other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_82.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_84.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_86.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_88.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_90.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_92.mp4 Mm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_94.mp4 It does, uh, it does a lot of positive things for you. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_96.mp4 "And it sounds like it's paired, like a coffee and a cigarette. I mean, you know, probably hard to think about, ""How will I have a cup of coffee without a cigarette?"" " reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_98.mp4 You know, and, um, that's actually, yeah, that's a-- I think it does become very paired with lots of different things. And, um, you might already know this, and so let me know if you do, um, because of the way cigarettes you're describing it and accurately is-- it is really what we call an almost perfect drug in a lot of ways. And- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_100.mp4 -it will do whatever you need it to do at any given time. The downside is-is it-it kinda get, it gets in the end with the health. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_102.mp4 It'll-it'll take a good usually 10 years off your life minimum. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_104.mp4 Okay. What do you think when she says that to you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_106.mp4 Glamourous. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_110.mp4 So, and I would- I would-- it really is because it wasn't like that 20 years ago. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_112.mp4 It wasn't like that for sure 30 years ago. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_114.mp4 So, it's become harder to be a smoker. You light up a cigarette-cigarette and people make assumptions about you. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_116.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_118.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_120.mp4 Mm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_28_122.mp4 Okay-okay. So— other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_29_0.mp4 So you shared that you're, um, here today because you're having some dissatisfaction with your body and your confidence and your mood and your energy. And you're looking for, um, some different patterns to kind of turn things around for yourself. And what I like to do as I get to know clients is-is let them know a little bit about my philosophies, about health and wellbeing. Um, but first, I'd love to hear what are your philosophies about health and wellbeing? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_29_2.mp4 Yeah. Well, I'm so glad that you reached out for help, um, and just know that you're not alone. And-and so, yeah, is that okay if I share a little bit about, um, how I tend to work with clients on that topic? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_29_4.mp4 Yeah. Well, um, first of all, I really am passionate about looking at the whole picture, um, physical health and emotional wellbeing and what I found in working with clients in the past is when, um, we make a focus of weight loss, sometimes, uh, physical health improves, but at the cost of emotional wellbeing. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_29_6.mp4 Um, many people find that when then- when they are restricting their intake or starting some, uh, ac-activity patterns that are really rigorous, that, um, a piece of their mental health suffers because they start to obsess, um, more than they'd like to be about those things. So, my approach with clients is just a more holistic approach. Looking at certainly some behavior changes that you could make to be more physically active, improve your energy levels. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_29_7.mp4 Um, and also look at activities that enhance your mood. We can also take a look at some dietary patterns and see if-if there are ways you could tweak how you're fueling your body throughout the day, but at the same time, sort of letting go of what happens on the scale. Letting go of, um, the final, you know, weight outcome of that, and really focusing instead on healing your relationship with food and also adopting sustainable physical activity patterns. What do you make of all that? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_29_9.mp4 Yeah, I-I found in the past when working with clients that creating a prescriptive meal plan, um, tends to work for a few days, but then clients usually get really tired of the foods on there. Um, and so instead, I'm really more interested in equipping you to learn how to space your meals and snacks out in a way that makes your body feel energized. Um, and then I can also support you, you know, in looking at the grocery shopping patterns and the meal planning patterns that come alongside all of that. Um, so really teaching you how to do more of your own meal planning, um, to fuel your body in a way that gives you energy, but also in a way where you're really still enjoying food. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_29_11.mp4 Food is meant to be enjoyed, and it's a source of pleasure. So I'd want to help you certainly look for ways to add more fruits and vegetables and-and things that nourish your body, but also look for ways to add pleasure- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_29_13.mp4 -to your meals and snacks. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_29_15.mp4 Think about all of that. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_29_17.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_29_19.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_29_21.mp4 Yeah, I'm all about trying to help you figure out what types of physical activity bring you the most joy because those are the things that you'll make time for. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_29_23.mp4 So if-if the gym is what brings you the most joy, then we can work with that, but if you, um, start to think about it and discover there other activities that you're more excited to attend and you're more, um, you're looking at rear-rearranging your schedule too because you really want to be there- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_29_25.mp4 -um, then we can pursue those things. So it's really just about what brings you joy in terms of how you move your body and I'm just here to help you figure that out. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_29_27.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_29_29.mp4 Exactly. Yeah. So helping you find changes that feel sustainable because they bring you both nourishment health, but also pleasure. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_29_31.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_29_33.mp4 Sure. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_29_35.mp4 Absolutely, I appreciate you sharing that piece with me and you absolutely get to have that desire. And, um, we certainly are bombarded all day long with messages about how a body is supposed to look and so we all, um, certainly have moments of feeling dissatisfied with how our bodies look. And so you're absolutely, um, welcome to hold that and we can have space for that and you can certainly talk about that in these sessions. And I'll check in with you as we're going through the process of behavior change, um, to see how your body confidence is, um, as we talk more. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_29_37.mp4 Fantastic. Thanks, Natalie. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_30_0.mp4 Hey, Mary. I wanted to bring up to you, um, that your battery died last night. So, can you tell me what happened? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_30_2.mp4 So, it's something you just aren't willing to do? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_30_4.mp4 So, it's not really a priority for you right now, to be charging it? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_30_6.mp4 Okay. Um, and do you understand then the con-consequences of-of what that would be? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_30_8.mp4 Okay. Um, would it be okay if I do share you what will happen if you don't charge your battery. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_30_10.mp4 Um, you will be getting violations for that, and then if you get so many violations, I mean, we'd have to write a warrant for your arrest, which is looking more of, um, detention time. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_30_12.mp4 And that's still doesn't seem to bother you. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_30_14.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_30_16.mp4 Um, so I know that you, you know, you know the consequences of it, and yet you're sharing with me it's just not a priority for you at this time. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_30_18.mp4 Okay. You know, that is your choice. I mean, I-I-I can't make those choices for you, it is something that you decide to do. Um, so with that being said then, these will be the consequences. I'll have to read the-the violation for you. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_30_20.mp4 Okay. Um, any questions about that? Any questions about kind of the next steps from here? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_30_22.mp4 So, your confidence that you'll be able to deal with possibly going back to detention? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_30_24.mp4 Okay, and it sounds like you know that it's probably coming then? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_30_26.mp4 Okay. Well, you know I will be back later. If any questions would arise, we can always talk about that then. Um, otherwise, again, I will have to write a violation, and, um, if you have any questions or need anything from me, please let me know. Um, otherwise, again, I'll be back later today. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_30_28.mp4 All right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_31_0.mp4 Hi Mr. Johnson? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_31_2.mp4 Hi, I'm Tonny Brownie, I'm a pharmacist here, uh, and I- and I was wanting to spend just a little time with you talking to you about your cholesterol. I found out you're newly diagnosed and your medicine for your cholesterol. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_31_4.mp4 Okay, certainly glad to hear that your doctor did spend some time with you, um, I-I see myself as somebody who works with your doctor, uh, to help you get the most benefit from your medicine, uh, because you are gonna spend money on it we wanna make sure that you get the most benefit from it. Uh, also sometimes it may be difficult to reach your doctor we're also here, uh, and so we try to work together, wo-would that be okay? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_31_6.mp4 So-so on the one hand, the doctor talked to you about high cholesterol, down the line possibly causing a stroke or heart attack- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_31_8.mp4 -and that would be pretty serious. On the other hand, uh, when you found out that this drug might cause muscle weakness, that really alarmed you. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_31_10.mp4 Especially with your job and- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_31_12.mp4 -preventing you from doing your livelihood. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_31_14.mp4 Okay, um, would you mind if I talk to you, if-if I- if I gave you a little bit of information about the muscle weakness, and you tell me what you think? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_31_16.mp4 Okay. The muscle weakness with this drug is very rare, uh, usually doesn't even happen, okay? Uh, if it happens it usually happens within the first month of taking the medicine, you'll notice it in terms of weakness in the arms, uh, or some muscle pain, it's not usual. If this should happen, uh, if you let the doctor or me know right away, we can get you off the medicine, it's completely reversible. It's, the muscle weakness will go away within a couple of days, right. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_31_18.mp4 Now, you don't wanna let that go on for months at a time, that's when it can become serious. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_31_20.mp4 But otherwise, again it's rare, and it's completely reversible if you let us know. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_31_22.mp4 Okay, and, uh, so talk to me a little bit more about what the doctors told you about-about your risks of stroke or heart attack while you're ta- while you have high cholesterol. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_31_24.mp4 Okay, well how important would it be for you to-to, uh, do whatever you can to reduce your risks of stroke or heart attack down the line? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_31_26.mp4 Yeah, and-and one of the- certainly one of the risks of stroke is paralysis, and if you wanna be active that could be- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_31_28.mp4 -really a problem. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_31_30.mp4 Okay, well this medicine can really help lower your risk of having a stroke or heart attack so that five years so now when you do retire you can enjoy it without any disability, uh, what are your thoughts about that? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_31_32.mp4 Sure. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_31_34.mp4 Mm-hmm, yeah it would, I-I-I think that would, uh, go a long way toward reducing those risks. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_31_36.mp4 Okay, um, so if so where we are right now if I understand is you're feeling more comfortable about the concern about muscle weakness? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_31_38.mp4 Uh, you seem fairly committed to taking the medicine to reduce your risk so that you can enjoy your retirement. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_31_40.mp4 Uh, and so at this point, you're gonna get the medication and- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_31_42.mp4 Definitely, can lower your cholesterol to 50%. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_31_44.mp4 So it's pretty effective. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_31_46.mp4 Okay, um, and at some other point we can talk about some other things that you may be able to do including diet, changes in your eating habits, it can lower your cholesterol even more. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_31_48.mp4 Okay? other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_31_50.mp4 All right, uh, well they have your medication ready, and, uh, if you have any questions let us know. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_31_52.mp4 All right, good to meet you. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_31_54.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_33_0.mp4 Okay, David. So, why don't you take a rinse, and how are you feeling? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_33_2.mp4 Would you like to- question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_33_4.mp4 -check this out? What do you think? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_33_6.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_33_8.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_33_10.mp4 Yeah. No. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_33_12.mp4 It went well. Good. Excellent. I did notice quite a lot of staining, actually. I'm wondering what are your thoughts about what might be related to that. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_33_14.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_33_16.mp4 Any thoughts on considering quitting smoking at this time? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_33_18.mp4 "Okay. And it's like here I am one more person, the next- the next doctor who's saying, ""You need to quit smoking, David."" " therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_33_20.mp4 Mm, and I'm sorry, that's not how I mean to come across at all. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_33_22.mp4 Mm-hmm, and if it was as easy as the doctor is saying or your partner- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_33_24.mp4 -saying- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_33_26.mp4 -you have to quit. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_33_28.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_33_30.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_33_32.mp4 Yeah. And what's been your past experience with smoking? Tell me-- Can you tell me a little bit about kind of how the role it plays in your life, how long you've smoked? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_33_34.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_33_36.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_33_38.mp4 It sounds like almost you've tried a lot of things that are out there and it's not something that you're— reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_33_40.mp4 Yeah, yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_33_42.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_33_44.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_33_46.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_33_48.mp4 Yeah. And it really is your choice. You're absolutely right- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_33_50.mp4 "-that nobody has the right to tell you what to do. Um, can I ask? If you were to-- Uh, if there was to be a situation where you decided, ""I must quit,"" what-what would that situation be? " question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_33_52.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_33_54.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_33_56.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_33_58.mp4 So, this is something that you-you- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_33_60.mp4 -pretty much see yourself doing for- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_33_62.mp4 Yeah. Okay. Well, I really appreciate you being willing to even talk about it. And I get that right now, this is not something that you wanna pursue. Would it be okay if I brought it up in our next visit? 'Cause I-I know that you've said you don't want a lecture, but on the other hand, I am- I am concerned. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_33_64.mp4 As long as I don't talk too much? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_33_66.mp4 Okay. [chuckles] other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_33_68.mp4 Hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_33_70.mp4 [chuckles] You're glad to keep him as a doctor? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_33_72.mp4 Yeah. Well, and, David, honestly, wherever you're at, we'll work with it. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_33_74.mp4 Um, and so thanks for- thanks for taking a couple of minutes and talking about smoking. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_33_76.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_0.mp4 Thank you for coming in to see me today, Nina. I'm looking forward to getting to know you a little bit and hearing a little bit about you and what brought you in here today. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_2.mp4 Okay. He's thinking you were a little irresponsible. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_4.mp4 And you're feeling kind of concerned about that. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_6.mp4 Okay. So, you're concerned about the consequences, and you really care about your baby, and you want to give your baby the best start you can. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_8.mp4 And you're wondering a little bit about this time that we're going to spend together. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_10.mp4 So here you are today and, um, you're sharing that you have been drinking alcohol throughout your pregnancy. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_12.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_14.mp4 Mm-hmm. So, there's this external pressure coming from the people you care about to sort of stay in the scene. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_16.mp4 Kind of feels like You're between two worlds. In one world, you're preparing to be a mother and bring a baby into this world, and this other world is the world that you've been in for a while where you're kind of having a good time and- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_18.mp4 -drinking and your friends are- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_20.mp4 Okay. So, this party-time world's- are you feeling like this is something you want to move out of and move into that mom world? Or does it feel like I want to hang out there still too? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_22.mp4 "So, for you, you're feeling like once the baby comes and actually in your arms, then things are going to change, but right now, while you're pregnant, you're thinking, ""I can kind of hang out in both worlds a little bit,"" but part of you may be thinking maybe that's not the case. It's time to go to the mom world maybe. " reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_24.mp4 Okay. So, you've got a lot of concerns about what's happened to- up until this point, as far as your drinking. What do you know about, um, drinking alcohol throughout pregnancy? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_26.mp4 So, you were thinking because your-your friends weren't pressuring you to stop drinking, that-that it must be okay. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_28.mp4 And then there's this other part of you that's- was thinking maybe it's not okay. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_30.mp4 So, your gut is telling you what? Tell me about that. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_32.mp4 And you really wanna do what's best for your babe. And kind of wondering, um, how to move forward from here, is that where you wanna, you know, kind of focus in on, or what are your thoughts about giving up drinking altogether? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_34.mp4 So, you kind of have this identity, dual identity going on. I wanna be that person, yet, that person- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_36.mp4 Mm. So, embraces this life of the picket fence and the, you know, the little house and having the baby in this- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_38.mp4 So, you don't wanna be that- that- that woman that's just sort of living in this house with the baby carriage, and at the same time, that world's kind of saying it's behind you. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_40.mp4 You care about them. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_42.mp4 It's just the scene that they're-they're still in because their life maybe hasn't taken that change that your life has made. And so now, you're here and you're not sure. You want the baby, but you're not sure about the suburbs and the picket fence thing. You're not sure— reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_44.mp4 You don't want that. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_46.mp4 You want this baby. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_48.mp4 And you wanna be, um, take care of your baby as the baby's growing. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_50.mp4 You don't wanna let your baby down. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_52.mp4 "And at the same time, it's hard to let go of the past, but on the other hand, you're thinking, ""I don't have a choice. I've got to look this way."" Is that kind of what it feels like? " reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_54.mp4 Nina, I'm wondering, what's your hope for the future? When you think about where you are today, um, what do you hope for when you look ahead? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_56.mp4 "You put your heart there that the baby is really- it was almost kind of like a sign for you that was saying, ""This baby is giving you a kind of a new chance at life, or giving you a plan B,"" and you guys both get to decide what plan B is gonna look like. " reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_58.mp4 "While this baby's growing in you and you think of all the opportunities that could come out of this, there's a part of you that says, ""I'm still that same girl that was drinking and partying,"" and-and maybe not living the life you wanted to live. " reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_60.mp4 "While this baby feels like this is your second chance, you're wondering, ""Do I deserve that second chance?"" And then this other part of you that says, ""Why not? It's here and I wanna go for it."" " reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_62.mp4 Mm-hmm. You got a lot of people around you that are kind of pulling it down, and it's kind of taking you back to the old life. And the baby is a constant reminder that there’s this new life ahead. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_64.mp4 When you think about, you know, embracing this new life, and taking that different path, turning away from path A and moving into path B, how confident are you that you can take path B and be successful in raising this baby, and letting go with the drinking and the life that you were in-in path A? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_66.mp4 "Mm-hmm. Tell me more about that, what makes you say, ""I have to take that path""? What makes you feel like you need that? " question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_68.mp4 "This part of you that says, ""I don't have an option to-to-to make this life better,"" it's wondering, ""Do I have the confidence to be able to make that life a reality?"" What do you think you need to increase your confidence that you can do this? " question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_70.mp4 So you're thinking that, um, once your friends see you with the baby in your arms that they too will see that there's a different path for them too? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_72.mp4 Mm, kind of feel like you're pulled between two worlds there. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_74.mp4 "It's not easy to be in that world and also having that constant reminder that the baby is coming and this baby is saying, ""I want this better life,"" and you want to give the baby a better life too. Who can support you, do you think when-when you look around who's in your circle right now, who do you think can support you in moving towards path B? " question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_76.mp4 And your parents are a support for you and support you from giving up the drinking, the alcohol use, that's something that they would support- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_78.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_80.mp4 That would be a concern for them as well as for you now. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_82.mp4 Yeah. Is that something that, um, maybe you and I could meet again about-and talk about having those conversations with-with the family, maybe having conversations about, you know, the folks, your-your friends that are currently in the lifestyle that you were involved with, um, and then sort of what it would look like to go down path B, is that something that you would be open to meeting with me about again? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_84.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_86.mp4 Kind of feels like you're climbing Mt. Everest. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_88.mp4 And you don't have equipment. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_90.mp4 You're concerned that they're gonna kind of treat you like a child. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_92.mp4 Oh, oh, you're talking about your friends. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_94.mp4 You're wondering if they're gonna kind of be like children and you're gonna be like the parent saying- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_96.mp4 You just wanna be like peers talking. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_98.mp4 And you want them to support you. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_100.mp4 You don't wanna lose your support group, yeah. You just wanna them to support you in being healthy, while helping them, raising the babe, and so we're just taking path B. You don't wanna lose them, just maybe the lifestyle it sounds like. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_102.mp4 Mm. You kind of wanna have the best of both worlds. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_104.mp4 I want the friends and the relationship that I get from my friends, and at the same time, I don't want the party scene that goes with that. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_106.mp4 Well, Nina, you know yourself best, and you know, you know, you know what your world looks like and what those, you know, like, you know the support that your friends give you and the support that you get from your family, you know that. And I-I really just wanna support you in being able to make those choices and have those conversations, and I wanna do whatever I can to support you with that. Um, and I'm just wondering if maybe we can kind of pick this up, um, in a next visit, but before we go there, I'm just wondering, is there some steps that you would be willing to kind of take or consider, uh, with-with regards to your drinking? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_108.mp4 You're concerned about the health of your baby. I just would love to share with you, Nina, that every day without alcohol is a good day for your baby, and you know, starting today to have zero alcohol is a great start, and I'm wondering if that's the sort of something you'd be open to as no more alcohol at this point. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_110.mp4 Okay, sounds like this is really important to you. You want to make this happen. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_112.mp4 Is there anything that I can support you with before we wrap up as far as giving up alcohol today? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_114.mp4 You kind of got a reality check today. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_34_116.mp4 You did really well talking with me today, and I thank you so much for just sharing your heart. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_35_0.mp4 Hi, Natalie. I'm Dawn. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_35_2.mp4 Nice to meet you, too. Thanks for coming in today. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_35_4.mp4 Yeah. Tell me a little bit about yourself. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_35_6.mp4 Yeah, you're feeling a little bit dissatisfied with your health patterns? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_35_8.mp4 Okay, so you're feeling some low energy and you know, in the past, when you've been more active and eating differently, you've had more energy? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_35_10.mp4 Yeah. Tell me more about that, those previous times that you've been active. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_35_12.mp4 You had energy, and you were like the Energizer Bunny, just keep going and going and going. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_35_14.mp4 So your days are just as full now that you're working and a career person, um, and your energy level isn't what it used to be. What-- Do you have any ideas about why that might have shifted? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_35_16.mp4 Right. So in the past, it wasn't up to you whether you had the choice to go be physically active. Now it is up to you, and-and you're looking back at the last few years and saying, I wanna do things differently. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_35_18.mp4 I want to be more physically active than I've been. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_35_20.mp4 Great. And you've noticed a mood enhancement effect of exercise. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_35_22.mp4 Tell me more about that. What do you notice specifically about your mood on the days you're physically active? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_35_24.mp4 Yeah, you feel more accomplished and-and you feel less irritated by the small stuff. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_35_26.mp4 Great. Well, let me see if I've got this all. You came to Arizona six months ago, you're trying to figure out new rhythms and patterns for yourself. You're looking back at the past few years, and in college, you were real active because you were an athlete, and now it's more up to you about making that choice of physical activity, and you're discovering that, um, not being active has affected your energy level and your mood, and that's something you're looking for more of, both of those things, energy and-and a mood booster. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_35_28.mp4 Yeah. Tell me more about your weight concerns. When did you start feeling dissatisfied with your body? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_35_30.mp4 Mm-hmm. Okay, so it sounds like a sort of a vicious cycle and-and maybe the lacking physical activity has made you feel less confident in yourself. I wonder if that's also a piece of this puzzle since you mentioned that's been a big difference from what was happening in the past. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_35_32.mp4 Okay. So you had a pretty strong self-confidence, pretty strong body image all the way up until a few months ago and, um, you're hoping to kind of get back to that place where you feel good about yourself. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_35_34.mp4 Great. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_0.mp4 Barbara Roberts? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_2.mp4 Hello, there. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_4.mp4 My name's Dr. Betty. I'm one of the new GPs in the practice. First of all, what would you like me to call you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_6.mp4 Okay, that's fine. Okay. So, Barbara, I'm seeing you today, um, but I think it's usually Dr. Brown that sees you, is that right? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_8.mp4 Okay. What is it that's brought you to see me today? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_10.mp4 All right. Okay. Can you tell me a bit more about your tummy problems? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_12.mp4 All right. So, quite a few symptoms there- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_14.mp4 - and some of them sound- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_16.mp4 - quite troublesome to you. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_18.mp4 Okay. And how long has this been going on? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_20.mp4 Mm-hmm. Okay. Okay. So you think it began about four years ago after this holiday? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_22.mp4 Okay. And what's- what sorts of treatments have you tried for-for this before? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_24.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_26.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_28.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_30.mp4 Right. So, these different tablets that you've got from the- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_32.mp4 - the herbal shop- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_34.mp4 - how are you taking them? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_36.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_38.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_40.mp4 So, am I- am I right in thinking you perhaps decide on a day-to-day basis- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_42.mp4 - what you're gonna take- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_44.mp4 - depending on what your stomach's doing? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_46.mp4 Okay. Okay. And what about tests? Have you had any tests for these problems? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_48.mp4 A gastroscopy. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_50.mp4 You got the tube down-down from the top? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_52.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_54.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_56.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_58.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_60.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_62.mp4 Right. It sounds as though you're-you're not happy with that. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_64.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_66.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_68.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_70.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_72.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_74.mp4 Right. So you feel as though actually, enough hasn't been done in the way of-of tests? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_76.mp4 Right. Okay. It sounds like you-you've had these problems now for about four years. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_78.mp4 You've-you've got a lot of various symptoms in your stomach. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_80.mp4 Um, you've tried a lot of tablets. Some prescribed, some herbal remedies- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_82.mp4 - and you've had some investigations, but you're not entirely happy that-that you haven't been investigated thoroughly enough. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_84.mp4 Is that- is that about- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_86.mp4 - if I got the story right. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_88.mp4 Okay. And can I ask you, Barbara, how-how is all of this affecting you day-to-day? How's-how's it affecting your life? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_90.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_92.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_94.mp4 Right. Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_96.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_98.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_100.mp4 Sounds as though that's something you quite enjoyed. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_102.mp4 Right. Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_104.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_106.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_108.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_110.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_112.mp4 Yeah, it does- it does sound as though over the last few years your life has really changed- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_114.mp4 - quite a lot because of these symptoms. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_116.mp4 It sounds- it sounds like you're doing the review of the things that you used to do. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_118.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_120.mp4 So, what is it you'd spend your average day doing now? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_122.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_124.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_126.mp4 They certainly do. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_128.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_130.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_132.mp4 Okay. Okay. And have there been any times over the last four years that you've noticed any significant changes in your symptoms? For example, have there been any times when things have been better for you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_134.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_136.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_138.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_140.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_142.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_144.mp4 Right. And how were you tummy symptoms then? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_146.mp4 Right. Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_148.mp4 Right. Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_150.mp4 Right. That's interesting. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_152.mp4 And are there any times when your-your tummy symptoms bother you more? Seem particularly bad? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_154.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_156.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_158.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_160.mp4 Uh-huh. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_162.mp4 Right. So you notice it's a bit worse when your husband's not around? Okay. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_164.mp4 Right. I know you've been seeing Dr. Brown about this for the last few years. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_166.mp4 What is it that he's said that he thinks might be wrong with you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_168.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_170.mp4 Right. Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_172.mp4 And what do you think? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_174.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_176.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_178.mp4 And have you had any thoughts yourself about what you think might be causing it? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_180.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_182.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_184.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_186.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_188.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_190.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_192.mp4 Oh, dear. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_194.mp4 Right. Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_196.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_198.mp4 So you're- you-you're kind of prodding, having a feel at night? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_200.mp4 To see if you can feel anything? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_202.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_204.mp4 Right. Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_206.mp4 Okay. So just to-to make sure that I've got the-the story straight, you've-you've seen Dr. Brown for a couple of years. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_208.mp4 You've-you've tried a variety of medications- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_210.mp4 - some prescribed, some- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_212.mp4 - from the-the herbal shop. None of them really made a great deal of difference. You've had some investigations- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_214.mp4 - but you perhaps feel you've not had enough investigations. And at times, you worry that this could be something quite serious like a- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_216.mp4 - a cancer. Is that-- Have I got the- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_218.mp4 - story right? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_220.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_222.mp4 Okay. Barbara, what was it that you were hoping that I'd do for you today? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_224.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_226.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_228.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_230.mp4 Right. Right. So you were hoping that I'd send you for more tests? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_232.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_234.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_236.mp4 Right. Okay. Well, I think, Barbara, having-having heard your story, and heard about the symptoms, I'm not sure that actually sending you for more tests at this point would be the most useful thing that we could do for you. And the reason for that is because you've-you've had some of the main investigations in the last couple of years, and-and they've not shown anything. And your symptoms haven't really changed that much. So it's very unlikely that if we were to send you for more tests now that-that they'd show anything different than what we already know. So a bit-- I think it would be a waste of time for you to go for more tests. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_238.mp4 Uh, no. I think that you clearly have pain, and clearly you have lots of physical symptoms, and they're clearly getting in the way of- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_240.mp4 -your life and causing you a lot- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_242.mp4 -of disability. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_244.mp4 I guess- I guess the way I think about these things is that they're not necessarily either all in the mind or all in the body. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_246.mp4 Sometimes these things can go together. Uh, I guess I'm thinking about how you told me that last year, when your son got married, uh, and you were very busy- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_248.mp4 - and quite happy, that somehow your symptoms seemed less. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_250.mp4 And, uh, when your husband's away, which is something you don't like very much, sometimes, somehow, your symptoms then will seem greater. So, I guess what I'm wondering, Barbara, is if there might be some kind of a link with you between how you're feeling in your mind, and what's going on in your life, and-and how much your symptoms trouble you. Do you think that's a possibility? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_252.mp4 Mm. I'm not saying that the pain's in your mind. Um, I guess what I'm saying is that sometimes the way that we feel, and the way that our lives are going, can impact how we notice our symptoms. Given that we've tried medication for you, and we've tried investigations, and we've drawn a blank really, with those, none of those have really helped you- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_254.mp4 - I guess I'm wondering whether now it would be a good idea to try a different approach to your problems. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_256.mp4 Well, I guess, thinking a little bit about those other areas of your life, um, uh, I'm thinking about the fact that over the last four years, your life's really changed. It seems to have really shrunk down. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_258.mp4 And it sounds as though you're not doing lots of the things that you used to do. That you- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_260.mp4 - used to get pleasure out of. Is that right? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_262.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_264.mp4 Yeah. And I guess I wonder-- Uh, it sounds as though you've-you've dropped doing those things because you felt you couldn't do them, but I wonder if, in a funny way, what's happened is the fact that you're not doing those pleasurable things now, has kind of fed into you feeling- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_266.mp4 - unhappy with the way that-that your life is at the moment. And-and I guess I wonder whether that can then make your symptoms worse for you. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_268.mp4 Mm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_270.mp4 Well, I guess what I'd be wondering is whether one of the approaches we need to be using now is thinking about what you do with your life, and what you do with your day, and maybe trying to bring back some of those pleasurable things, you know, even if it's just meeting up- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_272.mp4 - with your-your female friends once a week, and whether actually doing those sorts of things might generally- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_274.mp4 - improve your quality of life. I'm also thinking about the tablets that you're taking. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_276.mp4 And the fact that you-you seem to be taking quite a lot of them, and I'm wondering whether it's worth, though, sitting and looking at them and-and maybe trying to rationalize them a little bit, and really decide which are helping you, which are doing nothing, and which may actually be making some of your symptoms worse, I guess. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_278.mp4 What would you think about trying that slightly different approach for say-say two or three months, just to see whether or not it makes any difference? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_280.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_282.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_284.mp4 Well, I guess if we- if we did decide to-to work together like this- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_286.mp4 - in this new approach, I'd be seeing you regularly. We can keep an eye on your symptoms, and if they change, then we can investigate as appropriate. But if they stay the same, then, you know, we can be- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_288.mp4 - pretty clear that there's nothing new happening that-that we're missing. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_290.mp4 How would that sound? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_292.mp4 I think that would be a good idea. I think we've only just begun to talk about it- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_294.mp4 - and I think perhaps you need to have a bit of time to think about it and then perhaps come back. Perhaps if you're booked in for a double slot next week, and that would give us a good chunk of time to think about this new approach. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_296.mp4 And perhaps if you could also bring your-your tablets in or-or make a list of them, we can look at what you're taking and perhaps go from there. How would that sound, Barbara? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_298.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_300.mp4 Yes. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_302.mp4 Yes. I think so. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_304.mp4 I think that would be a good- a good start. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_306.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_308.mp4 Okay. All right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_310.mp4 So, shall I see you again next week? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_312.mp4 Okay. All right. Thank you, Barbara. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_36_314.mp4 Bye-bye. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_37_0.mp4 Kia ora, Ricky, welcome back. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_37_2.mp4 Good. Are you okay today? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_37_4.mp4 All right. So where we left last time, you were going away to think about a few things and to, um, develop some sort of plan of action. How'd it go? What were you up to? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_37_6.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_37_8.mp4 Good to know, excellent. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_37_10.mp4 Things are looking pretty good. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_37_12.mp4 So you've rung your mom, had a chat to her. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_37_14.mp4 Any other whānau members? You talked about your brothers and sisters last time. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_37_16.mp4 Here in Christchurch? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_37_18.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_37_20.mp4 No? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_37_22.mp4 What are you not sure about? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_37_24.mp4 Okay. Just sort of interested, when you rang your mom and, um, told her what's happening, how difficult was it to talk about the issue of violence and being violent towards your partner? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_37_26.mp4 We-we talked about, uh, last time that this is hard stuff and that, um, we are prepared to kind of do the hard yard. So you've gone away, you've talked to your folks, put it out there about your issue of violence? Um, I'm thinking about, uh, with-with Tristan and the whole alcohol issue there. So it sounds like to me if you've- you've started to put quite a bit of stuff in place. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_37_28.mp4 Yeah. What does it tell me about you as a man, as a father, as someone who wants to get moving? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_37_30.mp4 Grand. You talked a little bit about, uh, you'd really like to get back with Kristie? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_37_32.mp4 And-and-and your kids and developing that whānau. Have you had an opportunity to get in touch with her and— question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_37_34.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_37_36.mp4 Okay. So what do you think you're gonna need to do to show her and others, uh, to convince them that you are serious? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_37_38.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_37_40.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_0.mp4 Hi, Sarah, it's great to meet you. My name is Delwyn, and I'm a counselor here at the clinic. And I heard from your nurse practitioner that you recently had an annual exam in which the topics of smoking and alcohol use came up. Would you mind filling me in a little bit about that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_2.mp4 So, you've decided you wanna cut back on your smoking a little bit, but, you're not really concerned about your drinking. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_4.mp4 It's a nice sort of form of stress relief. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_6.mp4 Sort of escape from your hectic schedule. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_8.mp4 So, you're working, and then, on top of that, juggling being a single mom and going to school? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_10.mp4 It's pretty exhausting work. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_12.mp4 So, you're not only doing really tiring work and going to school, but you're also worrying about your finances. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_14.mp4 Yeah, it does. It sounds like a lot that you're trying to deal with, and it makes sense that you feel like you need some kind of break or reward. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_16.mp4 So, tell me a little bit more about your drinking. Tell me a little bit about how much you're drinking, and, um, the pattern, and what raised concern. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_18.mp4 So, you're drinking, perhaps, two drinks a day. Um, and I'm wondering, what have you heard about the recommendations for drinking levels? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_20.mp4 Okay, will you be interested in hearing about those recommendations? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_22.mp4 Okay. Well, so, the recommendation for women is to have no more than three drinks a day, and no more than seven drinks over the course of a week. Yeah, um, and, really, the reason for those recommendations is to just reduce the risk that people have trouble with accidents, or chronic diseases. Like certain types of cancers, or high blood pressure, and then also psychological problems. I don't know what you think about all that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_24.mp4 It just doesn't seem that abnormal to you, especially when you compare it with your family. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_26.mp4 Yeah, you really feel like you need that reward. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_28.mp4 And then it also sounds like, um, your drinking has perhaps increased a little bit over time? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_30.mp4 Yeah, and so it sounds like you've noticed that the more stressed you're feeling, the more you're drinking. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_32.mp4 So, let me summarize a little bit what you've told me. It sounds like you have a pretty hectic, stressful life, and you really feel like you need some kind of- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_34.mp4 -reward or stress relief. Um, and then, on the other hand, you've noticed, um, that your drinking has increased a little bit over time. And also that the more stressed you're fe- you feel, the more you're inclined to drink. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_36.mp4 So, I'm wondering, have you noticed any problems from your drinking? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_38.mp4 So, you've noticed that it's starting to call to you a little bit in the evenings. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_40.mp4 And it's perhaps taking you away from things that are more important to you? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_42.mp4 And it doesn't feel good? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_44.mp4 Yeah. And so, it sounds like there's a bit of a dilemma there, because-- And I guess we should be clear, it's not the occasional drink that's an issue. Um, it's-it's really the quantity of drinking, and-and whether your drinking is escalating and interfering with things that are, perhaps, more important. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_46.mp4 And you've perhaps never seen it in that light before. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_48.mp4 I-it seems like it-it would be quite a hard pattern to change. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_50.mp4 So, it seems like it would be really difficult to change because it's something that's really important to you right now. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_52.mp4 But on the other hand, it does sound like there are things that you- that you value that you don't want the drinking to interfere with. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_54.mp4 So, I guess I'm wondering if you've given any thought to other ways in which you could cope with stress without relying on the drinking so much. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_56.mp4 So, if you could somehow tackle some of these stressful issues, um, that could make a difference, and, what-what would that be, for example? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_58.mp4 So, having more reliable childcare could make a big difference. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_60.mp4 And it sounds like your mom has been an option in the past, but perhaps not so much anymore. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_62.mp4 So, one thing that could make a big difference is if you could figure out some sort of more reliable, affordable childcare, and that would help you not want to drink as much. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_64.mp4 Anything else? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_66.mp4 Yeah. It-it sounds like, um, you know, money could make a big difference, and you are working full time and trying to go to school to address that in the long run. Um, but on the other hand, you know, it sounds like you have some other ideas of cope- of how you might cope with stress better. Um, so, I guess I'm-I'm wondering, given our conversation so far, kind of where you are with everything. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_67.mp4 Um, we started off talking about how your drinking has sort of drifted into a risky area, and it would be advisable to cut back. Um, but it sounds like you feel like that's fairly important to you and not something you necessarily want to do. But on the other hand, we've talked about ways in which that perhaps could be made a bit easier, but I'm not sure if you're ready to tackle that or pursue that right now. I'm just kind of wondering where you are. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_69.mp4 So, um, it would perhaps be helpful if you could narrow it down to just one thing, and what would that be? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_71.mp4 Okay. Yeah. It sounds like from everything you're saying, that keeps coming up as one of the main issues. Um, so there may be some resources I can point you towards, but I'm- guess I'm wondering, have you looked into alternatives, more affordable, reliable childcare? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_73.mp4 Okay. Well, one thing you could consider is talking to one of our social workers, they sort of specialize in helping people who have a lot on their plate identifying resources that they may need, uh, things you haven't thought of or aren't aware of. So, I don't know, would you be interested in doing something like that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_75.mp4 Okay. Great. Well, I can definitely set you up with that, and you can- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_77.mp4 -um, try to tackle, um, your childcare issue, um, with some assistance. Is there anything else you'd like to do, um, for example, would you be interested in talking with me again, um, just as things progress? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_79.mp4 Yeah. So, these are not problems that are going to go away in a week. It's going to take some time to resolve. Okay, great. So, um, it sounds like we have a couple of things, uh, to pursue. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_81.mp4 Anything-anything else? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_83.mp4 Would you be interested in perhaps thinking about setting a goal with respect to your drinking? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_85.mp4 Okay. Try to cut back a bit and see how that goes. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_87.mp4 Okay. So, you can give it a go and, I think doing managing, you might just learn a little bit about how easy or difficult it's going to be, and-and also what it's like to cope with stress in other ways. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_89.mp4 Okay. So, it sounds like we have two avenues to pursue, anything else? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_91.mp4 Okay. Well, that sounds good. So, why don't we meet again in a couple of weeks and you kind of update me on how cutting back on your drinking has gone, and also, what it was like when you met with a social worker? Sound good? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_38_93.mp4 Okay, great. I look forward to talking next time. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_39_0.mp4 Um, so you've talked a bit about like the emphysema. Um, what did the doctors say to you when you were diagnosed? I mean the obvious, right? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_39_2.mp4 Mm-hmm. Finger comes out. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_39_4.mp4 Mm-hmm. And there was a war going on? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_39_6.mp4 Yeah. Well, and your daughter. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_39_8.mp4 And the social stigma, because you don't want your daughter to think of you like that, whatever that- that as a smoker, you know. You know there're people who make the assumption and it- it sounds like those are more important to you than the medical things, and who cares why it's important? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_39_10.mp4 It doesn't matter. So what- what ideas do you have about what might be most helpful for you in quitting smoking? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_39_12.mp4 So that was helpful for you that it's a, um, I can't remember. I know what you're trying to get a little ball. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_39_14.mp4 It shows you your lung capacity. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_39_16.mp4 But it might be helpful if you- if you quit or it's, you know, it did if you were gonna decrease or whatever, to see how much better you're doing with the ball going up and your lung capacity increasing, is it? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_39_18.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_39_20.mp4 So, I don't even know where you can get those. I think— other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_39_22.mp4 Oh, you have one? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_39_24.mp4 Oh, okay- okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_39_26.mp4 Oh, did you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_39_28.mp4 Okay. All right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_39_30.mp4 It's so interesting because there's immediate feedback. I mean, that's immediate feedback. Um, so we're- we're talking about quitting or here quitting completely. What thoughts do you have? You tried the Chan- the Chantix, meditation, you like that so, um, I can run some ideas that some other clients have used [crosstalk]- question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_39_32.mp4 So, um, since you like meditation so much, it's highly likely that you'd be a great candidate for hypnotherapy. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_39_34.mp4 Yeah, okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_39_36.mp4 Yes, it is true. Yeah. It is. I mean, people don't come walking through the door who are not interested in it, you know? So, um, yeah, so that's-- So you'd be interested in something like that and, um, what- what other ideas have you thought about that would work for you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_39_38.mp4 Okay. Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_39_40.mp4 Might become a better friend when you quit. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_39_42.mp4 Um, because I know you mentioned you tried the Chantix. Um, what have you tried? Uh, Zyban or Wellbutrin? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_39_44.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_39_46.mp4 Yes, it is. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_39_48.mp4 It's the same thing. It's Wellbutrin, and when they found out by accident through what we call serendipity that you know what, Viagra. [laughs] That when- when people were on Wellbutrin that they tended to decrease and stop smoking, and, um, there were a couple of different reasons for that. Number one, people tend to get depressed when they quit smoking, because it puts you in such a state of deprivation and, um also-- well, so Wellbutrin really is a good antidepressant for them. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_39_49.mp4 The other thing is its a slight stimulatory effect and when people go off nicotine which is a stimulant the-they tend to get pretty tired overheard-- you know it's the opposite of however the nicotine makes them feel. And the Wellbutrin kind of with stimul-- you know stimulatory enough. [crosstalk] [unintelligible 00:05:56] And I-- the last I've read, and I've not kept real current about it, but I'm wondering about the-- what your thoughts are if any about the-- any of the nicotine replacements like the gum patch, the inhaler. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_39_51.mp4 Chewing gum. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_39_53.mp4 That strong spirit of you got instilled with her. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_39_55.mp4 Could be? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_39_57.mp4 It is becoming a pain in the butt reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_39_59.mp4 Mm-hmm other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_39_61.mp4 Like it's a little treat. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_39_63.mp4 I've never heard of Union break. I love it how you said. I love it. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_39_65.mp4 I love it. Union break. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_39_67.mp4 It's great other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_39_69.mp4 Union break. Yeah. le-leverage, and you know so it's something else you might know about nicotine is, um is that actually depending on how you smoke it, it can- it can be stimulant when you want it to be a stimulant if you smoke it in short, shallow puffs and then it can be a depressant like after a meal and you take longer inhalations, and it really tends to act on your central nervous system as a depressant. So it kind of does whatever you want at any given moment and yet there is this price that you pay therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_39_71.mp4 Financially. Right, getting back to the finances and you know, you know, you know I'm thinking your daughter what a pain but it's become the finances the emphysema. I'm really-- because I would think that in 10 years, how much are you smoking now? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_40_1.mp4 Nice. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_40_3.mp4 Since the-- since you used, uh-- since the last time you used meth, right? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_40_7.mp4 Good. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_40_9.mp4 Nice. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_40_11.mp4 So-so, uh, have-- last time we talked, you know, you were kind of cutting the-the ex-boyfriend out. This is because he was your dealer, so-- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_40_13.mp4 And how is that going for you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_40_15.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_40_17.mp4 So it sounds like you've made some good changes. The change in your environment, and some of your behaviors, and, uh, and these new friends. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_40_19.mp4 So it sounds like-- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_0.mp4 So, thank you for coming in today. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_2.mp4 How are you feeling today? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_4.mp4 Yeah? Good. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_6.mp4 Good. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_8.mp4 And so you did your clarifications, value clarifications- question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_10.mp4 -and what are your top five? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_12.mp4 Really? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_14.mp4 Do you have any idea why that is? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_16.mp4 True. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_18.mp4 Mm-hmm. By not putting yourself on the back burner so much? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_20.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_22.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_24.mp4 For someone else? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_26.mp4 For your family? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_28.mp4 You think it is so much of a fact that you put yourself on the back burner that you were neglecting yourself, or that you were putting others so much before you that you just didn't even think about yourself? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_30.mp4 Wow. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_32.mp4 There's so much of your-- Part of your paradigm? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_34.mp4 So, do you think sometimes you weren't even aware question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_36.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_39.mp4 The very first time that you can remember? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_41.mp4 That's not a selfish thing. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_43.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_45.mp4 Cool, that's great. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_47.mp4 Yeah. And so you felt you came about this change, and-and-and how does it make you feel? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_49.mp4 Because you're- felt so obligated. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_51.mp4 Yeah, is that on your top five also question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_53.mp4 You get peace with yourself? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_55.mp4 That's very good. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_57.mp4 Sure. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_59.mp4 You feel resentful. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_61.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_63.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_65.mp4 You don't feel fulfilled. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_67.mp4 Like you've done anything helpful. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_69.mp4 It's because you showed up and you gave out reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_71.mp4 Meaningful. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_73.mp4 Sometimes it's the small things that really count, too. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_75.mp4 So all of these things put together feel like right now at this point in life, that it is really healthy change for you, like where you are right now. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_77.mp4 That's great and is there anything else on the list you felt like it was coming close to some of the other top five that you had or something similar? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_79.mp4 Uh-uh. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_81.mp4 All the chattering. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_41_83.mp4 Thank you so much for sharing. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_42_1.mp4 Right, so you've hit a plateau in your weight and despite all the things that you're trying to do to increase your activity, it doesn't seem to be working on the scale? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_42_3.mp4 Right. So you feel like you're spinning your wheels, you're doing more exercising and it's not showing results on the scale? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_42_5.mp4 And you're not feeling so good about that? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_42_7.mp4 Uh, so you feel like you're doing this all alone? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_42_9.mp4 At home or you think that they'll be supportive but they're not giving- they're not giving you what you need? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_42_11.mp4 Oh, okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_42_13.mp4 Tell me about that. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_43_0.mp4 Well, thank you, Tanya, for meeting with me today and talking about this. So, there is something I'd like to ask you that we can kind of discuss in our conversation is what's one thing about yourself or something in your life that you'd like to change that maybe you've been feeling kind of ambivalent about? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_43_2.mp4 Yeah. This anxiety is this obstacle for you and it sounds like it, then you're just not feeling confident that you could do it and do it successfully to this exam. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_43_4.mp4 And so, it's easier for you to just not do it. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_43_6.mp4 Yeah. So, on a scale from 1 to 10, 1 being not confident at all, 10 being very confident. How confident are you that you feel you can manage your anxiety in regards to taking this exam? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_43_8.mp4 Okay. So, four or five. How combat, like, not like a two or three. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_43_10.mp4 Yeah. Yeah, and you also mentioned that you've actually made the appointment that you have to take this exam. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_43_12.mp4 And before you've been putting it off. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_43_14.mp4 Okay. So, you've made this appointment before in the past and the anxiety has kind of taken over where you've rescheduled it. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_43_16.mp4 And this time, it seems like it's a little bit different this time. How come this time you feel like you might not reschedule this time around? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_43_18.mp4 So that's really encouraging you thinking about how good you'll feel afterwards once it's done and taken. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_43_20.mp4 Yeah. You kind of want to avoid that. Yeah. Have those other feelings that could come up and if you don't have. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_43_22.mp4 I'd love to hear from you. When was the time in the past that you were feeling anxious about something and you actually did it and it turned out well? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_43_25.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_43_27.mp4 So, in that experience, it really built up your self-confidence and it almost not only changed the way you saw yourself, but maybe how other people saw you and you really, you liked that feeling. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_43_29.mp4 Yeah. And that must've been really brave for you to do something that seems really daunting at first, yet you were really successful at it. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_43_31.mp4 Um, how do you think you could relate that to what you're dealing with now? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_43_33.mp4 Mm-hmm other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_43_35.mp4 So for you to create opportunities to create those moments that you can have that feeling again reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_43_37.mp4 And you just mentioned too, you feel really proud of yourself. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_43_39.mp4 So to end our conversation, how do you think you couldn't move? You originally said, you were at four or five, what would have to happen to get you to like a seven, to feel more confident? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_43_41.mp4 Mm-hmm other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_43_43.mp4 So that positive self-talk could really go a long way for you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_43_45.mp4 So to summarize, it sounds like you are still feeling kind of anxious about this test coming up, you've rescheduled it, um, over the past couple years. Yet, this time around, you seem more confident to just get it done. And you've even mentioned times in the past where you were feeling anxious and you were successful about it and that you felt proud about yourself. And you liked the way it means, you see yourself and how others saw you, and it seems like y-you're ready to finish this exam and-and remind yourself that you can be successful? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_43_47.mp4 Okay. Well, thank you, Tanya. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_43_49.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_45_0.mp4 Hi, Mary, how was your day? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_45_2.mp4 Well, you can sign right there. Seems like you're not in the mood to talk today. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_45_4.mp4 Okay. You know it seems like you had uh, a day at school. I noticed that uh, you missed your first hour of class today as well. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_45_6.mp4 It seems like that doesn't-isn't really a concern for you at this time? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_45_8.mp4 So you're kind of wondering what the point of these visits are, me coming to your house. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_45_10.mp4 Okay. Would it be okay with you if I kind of explained again kind of what this program is about? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_45_12.mp4 You know that I will be stopping by every day just to make sure that you're here and following and-and responding to your GPS and making sure that that's charged up every day and that, um, if you're leaving the house without permission, that we will be aware of that as well. Um, and kinda just to get to know you as well when I come for these visits 'cause, um, you know that's kind of my role as your caseworker is just to-to monitor your day-to-day stuff. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_45_14.mp4 It does kinda come off as nosy at times I'm sure. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_45_16.mp4 I know uh, some clients have struggled with understanding that I really do care about you. And you know that when we first met that you had expressed a goal of, um, getting off this program as quickly as possible. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_45_18.mp4 So I know just kinda being here when you need to be here is one way of doing that. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_45_20.mp4 Yet you still can seem kind of annoyed that this is something that we still have to do. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_45_22.mp4 So you're still kinda concerned that you're not quite sure if you will be able to do this successfully? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_45_24.mp4 Um, and-and I'm sure that does seem kind of confusing too 'cause I'm sure you've got a lot of other people involved in your life right now with the courts I'm sure, I know that your mom is concerned about you as well and there's this one other person kinda checking in on you as well. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_45_26.mp4 I'm sure it's pretty overwhelming. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_45_28.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_45_30.mp4 Yeah. And there is and I'm sure that it is really struggling at times too. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_45_32.mp4 Um, and I know some clients have expressed just really valuing their freedom. They didn't realize how much they really valued that until it was gone. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_45_34.mp4 Your freedom? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_45_36.mp4 What would be some ways you could go about being able to get your freedom back? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_45_38.mp4 Mm-hmm, yup that's one step, just sign the papers when I come by. Even though it seems like it's kinda annoying at times, it is something that we're contracted to do. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_45_40.mp4 What are some other ways you feel like you can get your freedom back? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_45_42.mp4 So that's something that will motivate you to not do what you did, not commit that crime, and, um, 'cause you do not like when we stop by? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_45_44.mp4 That's okay. Well, I know that you are making an effort. I do appreciate then and when-when I do stop by that you still sign the paperwork even though you feel like it's annoying at times. So, thank you for, uh, at least doing that. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_45_46.mp4 Okay. Um, before I leave today is there anything else you'd like to add or-or need to share with me? other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_45_48.mp4 Okay, well just so you know, again, I do have to come back so I'll see you later today then. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_45_50.mp4 All right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_46_0.mp4 So, Jacob, everything looks very normal on your physical exam. Do you have any questions for me? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_46_2.mp4 Okay. I see that you filled out our, um, alcohol and drug questionnaire. Is it okay if we go through this together? other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_46_4.mp4 Okay. What we talk about is confidential. I only tell your parents about what we say if you give your permission or if I become worried about a danger to-to you or to someone else. Does that make sense? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_46_6.mp4 Okay. So, let's take a look. So I see that you have marked that you sometimes use alcohol, and that you have used alcohol to relax, feel better about yourself or fit in. Do you mind telling me a little bit more about your alcohol use? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_46_8.mp4 Okay, so how many do you usually have at a time? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_46_10.mp4 Okay. And how often? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_46_12.mp4 Okay. So, you drink with friends, sort of three or four beers or mixed drinks, one or two times a month. How long have you been doing that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_46_14.mp4 So, for about six months. I'm curious. What do you like about drinking alcohol? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_46_16.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_46_18.mp4 Okay. So, it sounds like you feel relaxed and have fun when you're drinking with friends and you like the taste. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_46_20.mp4 Okay. I'm also curious, are there any parts about your alcohol use that you don't like? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_46_22.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_46_24.mp4 Have you ever experienced a-a blackout, like when you've been drinking and you wake up and you don't remember what happened? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_46_26.mp4 Okay. And have you had any problems related to-to your drinking alcohol, like at home or school or somewhere else? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_46_28.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_46_30.mp4 Mm-hmm. Have you told your mother that you drink with your friends? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_46_32.mp4 So more negative things about your drinking, like getting into trouble with your mom and missing a class at school when you had a hangover? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_46_34.mp4 Okay. I see on the questionnaire that you have not ridden in a car with someone who's been drinking and you haven't driven a car, um, after you've been drinking. Is that correct? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_46_36.mp4 That's great. And I hope you continue to avoid those things. As your doctor, I want you to know that I'm concerned about your drinking. When teens drink, things can go wrong, like injuring yourself. Even when you don't drink too excess, though, your brain is still developing and is very sensitive to the effects of alcohol. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_46_38.mp4 That's why I recommend that all my adolescent patients not drink at all. So if you were thinking today about how ready you feel to stop drinking alcohol on a scale of zero to ten, with zero not being ready at all and ten feeling very ready, what number would you pick? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_46_40.mp4 A five? So, I'm curious. Why didn't you pick a lower number like a two or three that would mean you're only a little bit ready to stop drinking? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_46_42.mp4 Okay. What could you do to avoid getting into trouble? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_46_44.mp4 [chuckles] Have you ever tried not drinking or stopping drinking? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_46_46.mp4 Okay. What some people your age do is try stopping drinking for a period of time just to see what that feels like. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_46_48.mp4 So, how long do you think you could go without drinking? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_46_50.mp4 Do you think you could go two months without drinking? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_46_52.mp4 Okay. What things would make it easier for you to not drink? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_46_54.mp4 Anything else to make things easier for you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_46_56.mp4 Okay. Is there anybody in your life that you can talk to about this, who give you some support for not drinking? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_46_58.mp4 Great. So you've come up with some reasons to stop drinking, like having hangovers and throwing up and getting into trouble. And you've developed some strategies to-to try to not drink, like spending more time with friends who don't drink or having non-alcoholic drinks when people around you are drinking alcohol. I think that's a great plan. I'm really proud of you for giving this a try. How about if I have you make an appointment for two months from now and then I'll see you back and we can see how things are going? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_47_0.mp4 Hey, Mary, how are you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_47_2.mp4 Um, I noticed some yelling going on in the house, what's going on? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_47_4.mp4 So nothing you want to talk about right now? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_47_6.mp4 My guess is you're probably involved in that. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_47_8.mp4 Okay, I understand that sometimes if you're feeling angry or upset about something, the last thing you want to do is share with your caseworker at that time, but, um, you know I am here for you, and if there's anything you ever want to talk about or share with me, that is something that I would love to-to here, and I'll just see sit here and listen if that's something that you would find helpful. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_47_10.mp4 Okay. You know what? I-it seems like things have been really a struggle for you lately, and I have noticed that you haven't been in the best mood, so I'm really- I am concerned about you, but again, it's your choice if that's something that you feel like you want to share with me. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_47_12.mp4 All right, well, you know I will be by later today. If, um, you have any questions or if you want to talk, um, otherwise, again, I'll stop by and call you later. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_47_14.mp4 All right, take care, bye. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_48_1.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_48_3.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_48_5.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_48_7.mp4 Uh-huh. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_48_9.mp4 Uh-huh. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_48_11.mp4 Sure. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_48_13.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_48_15.mp4 Uh-huh. Uh-huh. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_48_17.mp4 Uh-huh. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_48_19.mp4 You probably think that I'm going to get on your case about that or something. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_48_21.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_48_23.mp4 Hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_48_25.mp4 Yeah and I-- Yeah, you really-- You're already like, you're taking a look at this and sure don't need me like-- Obviously, you don't want to be doing that in the first place, but— reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_48_27.mp4 Yeah, clearly, you made a decision because you didn't want to stand out in some way I'm guessing. So, let's-let's talk more about that. Tell me where would you like to take this? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_0.mp4 All right, Catherine, welcome back. I'll be interested to, sort of, after we met last time, what-what were you-- what have you been thinking about over the week 'cause, you know, I-I remembered last time I asked you what you were thinking about coming, but- question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_2.mp4 -what was different this time and your thoughts about coming? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_4.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_6.mp4 Okay, okay. So, there's a shift from last time? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_8.mp4 "Yeah. Yeah. My sense is we'll be able to work pretty well together. That's my, sort of, sense of, uh-- After last time, I thought, you know, ""Here's a young woman who's, you know, got some energy to get things together- " therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_10.mp4 "-and, uh--"" So, really, what we'd like to talk about today is-is get a sense of, um-- Let's talk about the things that would be good to work with, um, over the next, you know, nine months together, really. " therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_12.mp4 So, one of the things that we started to touch on, last time, was this issue of gambling, and, um, you were talking, last time, about how the gambling had, sort of, got you into trouble with your family. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_14.mp4 Yeah. So, thinking about, like, you know, last time, you-you started to say that, well, you thought it was-- you deserved it and there was some thinking around that, so I'm, sort of, wondering how open you are to-to exploring that from some different angles? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_16.mp4 Yeah. Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_18.mp4 Yeah. Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_20.mp4 "Yeah, so how-how-- You know, like-- 'Cause, sometimes, when we start to open things up, and then you think, ""Oh, it feels a bit uncomfortable."" So, how do you manage things when you get uncomfortable? How have you managed those in the past? " question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_22.mp4 Yeah. Yeah. So, how would I know if we were talking and you were blocking off? What would I notice, uh, in our session together? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_24.mp4 Yeah? other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_26.mp4 Yeah, that's okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_28.mp4 So-so, what would be really helpful maybe because I might miss it, you know, so, like, could you tell me? It would be really helpful if— question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_30.mp4 "Yeah, yeah. If you could just say, ""Ken, hi, I am starting to, you know, tune it out here, starting to get uncomfortable,"" that would be really helpful. " therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_32.mp4 Yeah? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_34.mp4 Yeah, thanks for that, okay. So, let's think about the-- It has to do with how you just sorted out the thing around the gambling 'cause last time you were here, you told me that you get a buzz, you know, it seemed like you were gambling a bit more than your girlfriends were aware of, and-and you said you owe one of your friends some money. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_36.mp4 So, um, how serious do you think this issue is to sort? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_38.mp4 Yeah, okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_40.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_42.mp4 Okay. So, again, on a scale of 1 to 100, how serious-- how important is it to sort it out? Yeah. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_44.mp4 About 80? Right up there, yeah, yeah? And another question that's, sort of, related to that, how confident are you that you can, you know, you can actually get it sorted and get on with life? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_46.mp4 Yeah? But, what would- question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_48.mp4 -your level be on a scale of 1 to 100? Where does your confidence sit? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_50.mp4 Well, to get it sorted. Not necessarily to stop. But we don't- we don't know whether-whether stopping's the right answer here, I don't know, but-but, your confidence to sort it out. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_52.mp4 Mm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_54.mp4 Hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_56.mp4 Yeah. Yeah, so-so, you fluttered last night with them? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_58.mp4 Yep. Okay, okay. And-and when they stopped fluttering, were you still fluttering or did you stop with them? Where-where were you with— question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_60.mp4 Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah, yeah. So, you were saying before that, you know, there was, you know, money you couldn't really afford- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_62.mp4 -'cause you owed your mom and dad some money, and they weren't bailing you out anymore, and you had to go out and find some money, I think? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_64.mp4 Yeah? Yeah. Yep. So, it seems like almost, like, you're still in the behavior, you know, still creating some problems? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_66.mp4 Yeah? Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_68.mp4 There's some feelings when you, kind of, think about that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_70.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_72.mp4 Mm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_74.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_76.mp4 Okay. So, again, that, sort of, sounds really important. So, what's-what's your dreams? What are your dreams? Where do you wanna be in five years' time? Where does Catherine wanna be? What do you wanna be doing? What are your dreams? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_78.mp4 Yeah, yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_80.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_82.mp4 Okay, okay. So, it seems like you're-you're, kind of, in a state in your life of considering your next steps. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_84.mp4 "Yeah? Yeah. ""Do I continue with the, you know, my little current lifestyle,"" and you are so much the party girl you used to be-- I was speaking to last time- " reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_86.mp4 "-wasn't that-- Is that right? Yeah? So, ""Do I live a party lifestyle-- party-girl kind of lifestyle, or am I got some other dreams to follow?"" So, they're hard calls to make. And-and it all-- And there are no three ways. We will have to make those calls at some point. " reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_88.mp4 And, my sense, is that some of the challenge for you, at the moment? Yeah? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_90.mp4 When you think five years ahead, which-which position do you wanna be in? Which-which feels best? Party girl still, you know, with those four credit cards maxed out major, or would you wanna be actually, you know, thinking about having traveled and, you know, maybe, starting a family, those other things? Which-which direction feels best for you at this point? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_92.mp4 I don't know. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_94.mp4 What's your hunch? Yeah. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_96.mp4 Yeah, yeah. Where in particular? You've got any ideas about what— question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_98.mp4 Egypt? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_100.mp4 Uh, what's that about Egypt, that, uh? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_102.mp4 Yeah? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_104.mp4 Oh. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_106.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_108.mp4 No, that's true. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_110.mp4 But for obvious times. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_112.mp4 It could be very different. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_114.mp4 Yeah. Okay, so you've been-- How long have you had this-this idea for that that's what you'd like and that's where you'd like to go? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_116.mp4 Oh, yeah? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_118.mp4 Mm. So how much does the kind of, uh, current lifestyle rob you of that, you know, take away from that dream? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_122.mp4 There you go. So there's some decisions to make around, uh, which dream, which path you wanna follow. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_124.mp4 Hmm. What do you reckon to be the-the hardest bit of taking that pathway to-to traveling and realizing the-the dream? What would be the tough things that you'd have to confront? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_126.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_128.mp4 Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. So I see this is- this is something you've been thinking about for a while. So how far away do you think you are from that change? You know, 'cause obviously it can-can be on the never, never, but how far away are you from it, making some decisions about that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_130.mp4 No, no. That'll be easy. So what is the first step for you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_132.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_134.mp4 Yeah, it's hard, isn't it? It's hard being in the pub thing, in that environment. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_136.mp4 We'd-we'd-we'd have an illustration for them, I suppose. We call those high-risk situations. You know, it's that-- so you might learn some language about some sort of the way that we describe- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_138.mp4 -it and stuff, but, you know, being at the pub, you know, you want to sort of get the buzz of, you know, gambling, you know, horror situation, really easy to just go against what you decide that you wanted to do. Yeah? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_140.mp4 Yeah? So how today have you sort of found some ways to manage that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_142.mp4 Mm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_144.mp4 Yeah. I think somewhat being tough with yourself, what-- yeah, people often say that, but, you know, it's not-- I think there are some things that you can do, and you've already-already identified a really good strategy. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_146.mp4 Well, it's a couple of ideas. O-one, thinking about who your friends are and will your friends support you to realize your dream of traveling to Egypt. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_148.mp4 Um, and the other idea you talked about before was, actually, cutting up your credit cards. So kind of amazing what that thing makes there on different cards isn't it? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_150.mp4 It's very helpful and healthy. So, yeah, a couple of really good ideas already you've got, guess so? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_152.mp4 Yeah. So that's-that's some work that we can continue to work with. Yeah? Yeah? other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_154.mp4 So 'cause-'cause I asked the question before, is what might be the hardest thing, and you'd identified that your friends, you know, could be one of the habits. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_156.mp4 Yep, yep. Could that mean that some of your friends are probably moving around some similar sort of stuff like you, wondering about where they're going and- question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_158.mp4 -what they want to further their dreams, yeah? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_160.mp4 Okay, so we talked about sort of where things you-w-- Where you might be in five years and which path you wanna take, yep, yep? And you seemed very clear about it. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_162.mp4 Yeah, yeah. Something we can- we can do over the next while is-is really get some very concrete things in place to support you to do that. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_164.mp4 Yeah. So what's one thing you can do between now and the next time we meet? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_166.mp4 Yeah, find the scissors. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_168.mp4 Yeah, yeah, yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_170.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_172.mp4 Truly. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_174.mp4 Yeah. Okay, so sounds like so-some budget to buy stuff will be helpful. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_176.mp4 Yeah, and of the things that-that we often put people in touch with here is some budget advice service, it's a great service here, um, and something that you can get to. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_178.mp4 So let's talk about how we can organize a-a meeting with them. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_49_180.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_50_1.mp4 Okay. Um, but we were talking a little bit earlier-- earlier in our conversation, you had said that you did feel like it was maybe causing some of your agitation. So it's a little bit of, I'm not sure of what-- Um, so where are we? Did-did you-- do you feel like you do have some agitation out of coffee, or is it just no problem at all? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_50_3.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_50_5.mp4 Yeah. So let me see if I had this. So y- so you got some positives, the-the awareness, and then you feel kinda on your game? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_50_7.mp4 Um, and then there's some negatives with, um, you know, your-your co-workers, um, that they don't, you know-- then your boss may not want you, you know, checking out- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_50_9.mp4 -on the hospital floor, you know, for frequently. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_50_11.mp4 Yeah, yeah, and then the blood pressure thing. Does that sound about right? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_50_13.mp4 Yeah. How about frequency? Do you feel like you're good on how much coffee you're drinking? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_50_15.mp4 Okay. Okay. And that feels about right to you? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_50_17.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_50_19.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_50_21.mp4 Yeah, yeah. What would happen if you-- if you looked at, maybe reducing that with that habit? Would that get rid of maybe some of the things that are problematic? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_50_23.mp4 The number. Just the number. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_50_25.mp4 I don't-- you tell me. I mean, um, you're-you're drinking four a day. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_50_27.mp4 Um-- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_50_29.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_50_31.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_50_37.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_50_39.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_50_41.mp4 I think that's great. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_50_43.mp4 I think so. So you've identified one of the four that might-- you might be willing to-to try- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_50_45.mp4 -for a while to-to let go of. What do you- what do you think of that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_50_47.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_50_49.mp4 Good. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_51_0.mp4 Tell me what you know about the flu shot? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_51_2.mp4 Mm, um, so you're thinking it's really just for people who are-are vulnerable to illness? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_51_4.mp4 Would it be okay if I shared a little more information with you about the flu vaccine and the importance of it? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_51_6.mp4 So you're right that you're young and healthy and you don't have a lot of complicating illnesses that mean that you would probably do okay if you got the flu. But we do know that the elderly are more at risk, pregnant people, babies are at risk of having serious complications from the flu, and by you getting the vaccine, that helps prevent you from passing it on to other people. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_51_8.mp4 So having shared that information with you, how do you feel about the idea of the flu vaccine? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_51_10.mp4 Mm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_51_12.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_51_14.mp4 Okay, so you've got some people in your life who are vulnerable to possible illness, and making this decision to get the flu shot will help protect them. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_52_0.mp4 Hi, Nick. Thank you for completing the CRAFFT questionnaire. I also appreciate you sharing some information about yourself. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_52_2.mp4 sI see from the questionnaire, did you have got in trouble while using alcohol? Can you tell me more about that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_52_4.mp4 That must be really scary. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_52_6.mp4 I understand. So tell me, how often do you drink? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_52_8.mp4 I'm gonna make sure I understand. You have tried drinking a couple of times, and you almost got in trouble once. Did I get that right? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_52_10.mp4 As your provider, I'm a little concerned about your health. Drinking alcohol could harm you, and I would like to share some information with you. Is that okay? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_52_12.mp4 I understand. You're just experimenting with alcohol. Then, how about if you share with me what the effects of alcohol are? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_52_14.mp4 Are you surprised what that might be true? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_52_16.mp4 Well, you might not be drinking that much, and other kids are also trying alcohol. I'd like to share with you the risk of using. Alcohol and drugs could really harm you because your brain is still changing. It also-- you're very high risk for becoming addicted. Alcohol and drugs could also interfere with your role in life and your goals, especially in sports, and it could cause unintended sex. How do you feel about this information? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_52_18.mp4 Based on your reason for your visit today, I feel like you really wanted to play soccer, and you have great goals about that. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_52_20.mp4 That's a great goal to have for yourself. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_52_22.mp4 Scholarship will really help you achieving your goals. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_52_24.mp4 I would like to share with you these materials to show the risk of drinking at younger age. I also wanted to encourage you to think about these risks. What do you think about that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_52_26.mp4 It sounds like you're in the right track, looks like you care about your health, and you care about your goals in life. I'm here to answer any questions. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_52_28.mp4 You're welcome. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_54_0.mp4 Oh, hello Scott. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_54_2.mp4 Um, we were talking a little bit earlier, and you said you wanted to talk about exercising. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_54_4.mp4 What's going on with that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_54_6.mp4 Well, I mean, I think you just need to maybe sit down and write down a list of reasons why you need to get back to the gym, and then on the other side of the list, put down, you know, um, ideas about what's going to help you get there. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_54_8.mp4 What gym do you belong to? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_54_10.mp4 Okay. And-and how far away is it from your house? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_54_12.mp4 Just a couple of miles. Mm. So you-- you know, you could, like, ride your bike or walk there, and it would be [unintelligible 00:01:12] too. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_54_14.mp4 Well, I don't know about that. Um. That-- you know, it's really important that you get your, um, not just your cardiovascular-- that's a good idea for the cardiovascular, but also, you know, your, um, weightlifting, the [inaudible 00:01:32] [crosstalk] therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_54_16.mp4 Yeah, yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_54_18.mp4 Yeah. So why-why do you want to-- what do you wanna do with that? You want to look different, or--? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_54_20.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_54_22.mp4 Okay. Yeah, because your-your health really, to me, it's more important than your-your looks. I mean, don't get me wrong, I understand what you're saying, but, you know, it'd be great to get back in those jeans, but— therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_54_24.mp4 Mm-hmm. Well, I think you know what to do. You've done it before. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_54_26.mp4 Yeah. Just a matter-- You just gotta do it. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_54_28.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_54_30.mp4 Yeah. And so that might mean, you know, like giving up an hour's sleep, getting up an hour earlier in the day, and going there and getting it done then. That's what I do. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_54_32.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_54_34.mp4 So when I see you next time, you know, that's what I'd like you to do is to, uh, experiment with getting up an hour earlier and, um-- You know, 'cause, uh, getting healthier is more important than sleep, you know. I mean, I know sleep is important, but-- And then bring that list back that we talked about. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_54_36.mp4 Okay? other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_54_38.mp4 All right, so I'll see you next week. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_54_40.mp4 All right. All right. Bye. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_55_0.mp4 Miguel, before we end the call, I did want to go over the answers you gave me on the questionnaire about drug use. Is it okay if we go over that right now? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_55_2.mp4 Thanks. When I looked at your form, it looks like you use heroin weekly and you injected. What part of your body do you normally inject in? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_55_4.mp4 Do you mind if I take a look at your arm, please? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_55_6.mp4 Okay. Well, I don't see any redness. Um, can you go ahead and touch that Miguel, and tell me if it feels warm to you or if it hurts? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_55_8.mp4 Thanks. Just so you know, when I talk to patients about drug use, my job is to be helpful. I'm not going to tell you what to do or what you should do. What I can do is share some information and be a resource. Does that make sense? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_55_10.mp4 Right. What else can you tell me about your heroin use? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_55_12.mp4 A couple of times a week. And where do you get your syringes? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_55_14.mp4 Uh, what one do you remember? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_55_16.mp4 Okay. How often do you use new deals when you inject? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_55_18.mp4 Yeah, it sounds like your health is important to you. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_55_20.mp4 And you showed up today to take care of your migraines. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_55_22.mp4 So, uh, you wrote on here that you've experienced withdrawal symptoms when you've stopped using in the past, is that right? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_55_24.mp4 What does that feel like? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_55_26.mp4 That sounds awful. What do you do when that happens? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_55_28.mp4 Okay. How else does injecting heroin impact your life? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_55_30.mp4 Yeah. You want to stay healthy. I'm curious, what do you like about using heroin? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_55_32.mp4 And what about your use do you not like? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_55_34.mp4 Mm-hmm. So on one hand, using heroin feels like an escape from things you don't want to think about. On the other hand, it puts you at risk for an overdose in infections. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_55_36.mp4 So weighing what you like and don't like about your use, where do you want to go from here? What do you want to do differently? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_55_38.mp4 Well, some patients who inject heroin are interested in a medication called Suboxone. It reduces cravings, withdrawal symptoms without making you high. Some patients want information on how to inject drugs more safely or where to get new syringes. Other patients want to carry Naloxone which is a drug that can prevent one from overdosing. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_55_40.mp4 Yes. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_55_42.mp4 Where do you keep it? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_55_44.mp4 In case you see someone overdosing? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_55_46.mp4 Your housemate may be willing to give you Narcan if they see you overdosing. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_55_48.mp4 Anything else you want to do about your use? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_55_50.mp4 Okay. I can email you some information on how to inject in a way that reduces the chance of infection and we also have behavioral health specialists in our clinic who can go over how to reduce harm with you. I bet the syringe exchange has similar resources too. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_55_52.mp4 So it sounds like you have two goals right now. You want to tell your housemate about where you keep the Narcan in case you overdose and you want some information on how to inject safely? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_55_54.mp4 How confident are you to do these two things? On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 meaning not ready at all and 10 meaning very ready, what number would you pick? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_55_56.mp4 Okay. You're very ready. Why do you think you picked a 10 instead of a lower number like 8? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_55_58.mp4 What kind of plan could you put in place to make sure you meet these goals? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_55_60.mp4 That's great. And how do you want to get the information on injecting? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_55_62.mp4 Okay. I'd like to hear how your plan worked out for you if you're willing to come back for another appointment. I look forward to hearing about what worked for you and what was challenging say in four weeks. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_55_64.mp4 Great. I'll see you then. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_0.mp4 Hi, Mrs. Smith. I'm Denise. I'm the social worker here at the clinic work that's working with Dr. Fields and the rest of the team. And, um, I know you were here to see Dr. Fields today, and I-I just wanted to let you know, I usually work with people who are similar to- have situations similar to you, and that have gone back home from rehab. And, uh, so I'd like to find out a little bit if you would, if that's okay, about how it's been going since you got home. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_2.mp4 Yeah? other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_4.mp4 Yeah. What are you really glad about? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_6.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_8.mp4 I know, I-I understand that it was really-- That was your goal. That was a really important thing for you to be able to get home and it sounds like you've been able to really en- enjoy parts of it, and I know you've been going to the- both the physical therapy and the Tai Chi and how's-how's that going? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_10.mp4 So, I'm wondering if something happened that that led you not to go. You look a little, um, down. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_12.mp4 Mm. So you've been working really hard- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_14.mp4 -through this whole thing, you worked really hard to get home. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_16.mp4 And you- you've continued to work really hard with both the physical therapy and the Tai Chi and taking care of your house and doing all those things. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_18.mp4 And you had this fall or semi-fall, and you're feeling like maybe- maybe you were pushing too hard? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_20.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_22.mp4 Yeah, yeah. It's a lot of work. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_24.mp4 What are you concerned about? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_26.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_28.mp4 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And- so you don't want to hurt yourself. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_30.mp4 And what are- what are your concerns about-- It doesn't sound like you-you feel like you hurt yourself in this fall. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_32.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_34.mp4 Yeah. And, what are you concerned will happen if-if you get hurt or if something- question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_36.mp4 And it feels like the only way that you can really stay safe and not fall is to not do anything to kind of just hunker down. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_38.mp4 Yeah, yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_40.mp4 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_42.mp4 Yeah. So the physical therapy is can- you can kind of still see that it's helping you to build your strength, which- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_44.mp4 -might have probably helped you break your fall this time. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_46.mp4 Um, I'm wondering what you remember about what-what Dr. Fields said about the Tai Chi in relationship to falls. Did she talk with you about that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_48.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_50.mp4 "Yeah. So you're feeling a little betrayed like it didn't-- ""Look, and I did this, I was doing my Tai Chi, and all of a sudden, I- here, look at this, I fall."" " reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_52.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_54.mp4 So you're just starting to question a little bit about whether or not it might be what is useful and, you know, it-it does really come down to what works for you and what-wh-what you decide will help you stay safe. And I'd like to work with you as I know Dr. Fields would, to-to help build a plan that will help you feel as safe as you can in your home- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_56.mp4 -and to keep you there and to keep you feeling safe. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_58.mp4 Wh-what do you think about that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_60.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_62.mp4 Yeah, right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_64.mp4 Yeah, yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_66.mp4 So it really kinda strikes you that you're- that you're there alone and this could happen and-- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_68.mp4 What thoughts do you have about that? What have you heard that others have done, or what are- what are- what thoughts do you have? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_70.mp4 Yeah, yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_72.mp4 Yeah, yeah. I know what's worked for a lot of the-the folks that I've worked with is there's like- it's called a lifeline and they can wear it around their neck and it's hooked up and- so that if you need help, you can push the button. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_74.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_76.mp4 It does really work. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_78.mp4 Right. Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_80.mp4 No, it is something that there's a couple of different of, uh, you know, a couple of different products out there, but it-it does- it can really help, uh, and-and it kind of gives- might give you this sense of security that you have at your fingertips. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_82.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_84.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_86.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_88.mp4 We- we're gonna work with you to help you stay home as long as you possibly can and be safe. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_90.mp4 So what do you think that will take, um, because you're the one that really knows how you're feeling about in the house and how you're feeling about your safety. What do you think? The lifeline is a possibility, that's something you can consider. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_92.mp4 Mm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_94.mp4 Mm-hmm. What else do you think it would take for you to feel safe? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_96.mp4 Yeah, yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_98.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_100.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_102.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_104.mp4 So you'd like to have a little bit more support- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_106.mp4 -and a little bit more connection maybe that- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_108.mp4 -that-that, um, that has to happen. Would you like some suggestions about that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_110.mp4 Um, so one of the things that- that we also have here, we-we have- we can get some case- what they call case management services and that might be someone who comes in and checks with you at home and helps you figure out some of the things that might need to be done like you were talking about, give you a little refresher on safety at home- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_112.mp4 -and, uh, and-and also might help you organize and connect up with other services that might be out there or do things, um, like that. I don't know. What it- how does that sound to you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_114.mp4 Yes. I was going to say the other thing that I would say- that I would consider because the senior center, and I know you were really active in the senior center before- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_116.mp4 -and I'm wondering if you feel like there's support there. They have a lot of activities going on at the senior center that- and I- and I don't know what was in the Tai Chi included that might be- not only serve the purpose of the exercise but really help with some of that support. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_118.mp4 Yeah. It sounds so crazy, doesn't it? Like the- it- when it feels like inside, what you're- what I'm hearing from you is that it feels like inside like moving is unsafe. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_120.mp4 And-and yet, we know we can't make perfect safety, but we know that the more you move and the more active that you stay, the less likely it is that you're going to fall and the more safe you're going to be. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_122.mp4 Yes. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_124.mp4 Can't prevent all of it- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_126.mp4 -but we can make it less likely. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_128.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_130.mp4 Yeah. Takes a lot. Takes a lot. And you're the only one that'll- that can know what it is you're willing to work through that fear for. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_132.mp4 Mm-hmm. And that's a strong enough motivator for you and gives you enough purpose that you're willing to like kind of push through that fear that even though it's there and that, that sense of- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_134.mp4 -concern about being safe. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_136.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_138.mp4 Yeah. Yeah. Well, we can definitely talk about it when you come in again like- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_140.mp4 -again, and-and- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_142.mp4 Not at all. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_144.mp4 Not being a baby. This is a pretty normal- this is- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_146.mp4 -very normal. Absolutely. It's an absolutely normal thing to feel that, and especially when you've suffered something that you have and suffered to it, the stroke and the trying to get rehabbed and trying to find a way to get back home and going through the wobblies, this is perfectly normal. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_148.mp4 Yes. And actually, you-you have really demonstrated to me anyway, a lot of strength and courage because you have continued to persevere and work through this and not everybody does. And you have found a way to get home and you seem really committed to staying home. So you-you've got a lot of strength there that you're working with. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_150.mp4 And we can work together to make sure that-- And-and Dr. Fields too, I know, is very interested in that. We can work together to do what we can to keep you there. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_152.mp4 Not yet. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_154.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_158.mp4 I'm really glad you did too. I really appreciate it because that's the only way that we can work together- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_160.mp4 - to help you feel safer. And I hope you're going away home today feeling safer. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_162.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_164.mp4 We'll get you hooked up. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_166.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_168.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_170.mp4 Mm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_172.mp4 Good. Well, you've got some good plans and we'll go check it out and make sure they happen. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_56_174.mp4 All right. Thanks. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_0.mp4 Hi, Scott. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_2.mp4 Hi. You were saying over the phone, uh, you want to talk about exercise? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_4.mp4 Okay, alright. Where would you like to start with that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_6.mp4 That's really a lot. Very good. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_8.mp4 Wow. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_10.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_12.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_14.mp4 But that goal of the half-marathon, you know, it's really important that you were willing to put all the time into getting ready for it, which, from what I've heard from other people, is almost like a job in and of itself. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_16.mp4 What'd you like about it? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_18.mp4 Uh-huh. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_20.mp4 I-it a-almost, um, feels like you identified as being a runner, like an athlete? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_22.mp4 Do you really? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_24.mp4 [unintelligible 00:01:40] other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_26.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_28.mp4 Got into the culture? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_30.mp4 Okay, alright. Cause it’s tough, it's really, it is. I mean I’ve, um, I’m sure you’ve been told before by whomever, uh, diagnosed your foot injury, but if not, let me know if it gets so tough on your body [unintelligible 00:02:10] let me know. So-- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_32.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_34.mp4 Oh, and yet and at the same time you know your body well enough, and you-you’re willing to pay attention to your doctor’s advice about the running, right now, for you, not the best thing. Um, so, riding a stationary bike. Um, what else do you like to do that's cardiovascular? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_36.mp4 If you were to pick one of those, which one do you enjoy the most, um, would be most likely to do? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_38.mp4 The elliptical. Okay. Yeah. [unintelligible 00:03:07] like kind of almost like running. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_40.mp4 [chuckles]. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_42.mp4 Okay. And-and what do you- do you-- Some folks, you know, [unintelligible 00:03:18] put on music, kind of- kind of. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_44.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_46.mp4 Okay. Get your rocking out, running on the elliptical playlist. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_48.mp4 And, um, so you were-- You said that you’ve been going several times a week, which is really an extraordinary number, I-I think it’s four, five times a week? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_50.mp4 Nothing. Okay. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_52.mp4 So what ideas do you have about initially just getting started, and what-what would you do [unintelligible 00:04:13] ? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_54.mp4 What would help you do that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_56.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_58.mp4 [unintelligible 00:04:45]? other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_60.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_62.mp4 Mm-hmm- mm-hmm. So that-that-that half marathon was, uh, a very specific concrete thing and you could envision yourself, and you're ready for it and the day of and all that kinda stuff. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_64.mp4 Um. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_66.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_68.mp4 So sometimes-- almost sounds like, um, your feedback would be, uh, useful to you. Like some immediate feedback in terms of like, um, like [inaudible 00:05:53] reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_70.mp4 [inaudible 00:05:55] other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_72.mp4 [inaudible 00:06:01] other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_73.mp4 -somebody there and, you know, hooking up with somebody. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_75.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_77.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_79.mp4 There might be something [unintelligible 00:06:43] because you're such a social guy. And so to be able to be exercising and be talking and enjoying yourself- you like the music too, right? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_81.mp4 And if you arrange to meet somebody there, you're very good at, uh, you know, uh, keeping the agreement. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_83.mp4 And in for right now it just be, you'll be happy with getting there one time. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_85.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_87.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_89.mp4 And days that you know of on your less rigorous schedule that you're more likely to succeed [unintelligible 00:07:40] I really like how you're picking like three days a week instead of some days a week. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_91.mp4 Very clear you understand the whole idea of giving yourself a day off in between. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_93.mp4 Okay, yeah, I know that, yeah, yeah. Okay, so. So, um, so are you sure you wanna try to start out with the- that initial [unintelligible 00:08:07] reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_95.mp4 When you find someone to go with, great, if not, you get your own [unintelligible 00:08:12] your own music and uh, I'll be- I'll be trying just to-to see um, what is like for you, having actually done that [unintelligible 00:08:20] reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_97.mp4 Yeah, okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_58_99.mp4 Thanks. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_1.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_3.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_5.mp4 You bond other smokers. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_7.mp4 That's very common. I mean, you go where you know, um, no one's gonna look down on you. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_9.mp4 And you're instant friends. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_11.mp4 And now a total stranger will give you a cigarette- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_13.mp4 "-whereas like, you can't go up to him and say, ""Hey, can I have some of your McDonald's French fries,"" and take them out— " reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_15.mp4 Right, yeah, but with cigarettes, there is a sharing. You don't see that with any other drugs? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_17.mp4 You can't, no, not one of mine. So, um when are you thinking you might want to do this? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_19.mp4 Okay. Do your homework. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_21.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_23.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_25.mp4 Sure. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_27.mp4 Okay. Yeah, no, all those things are good. I mean, I think you know, the will- picking a quit date has been found to be really effective. And, um, uh, I know you had talked earlier and then we'll end in just a couple minutes, but about, you know, like, the willingness or the readiness and most-- a lot of people, a lot of my clients have shared with me that when they woke up that morning, they truly had no idea that was going to be their last cigarette. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_29.mp4 No. Or- or some of them didn't have an exact date, but m-more importantly, was they-they just didn't know that was the day. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_31.mp4 Right, right. It's just like you-you-you-- Some people pick a quit date, like January 1st is still the most popular quit date— therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_33.mp4 There's a smoke update coming up. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_35.mp4 It's for the cancer society. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_37.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_39.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_41.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_43.mp4 Actually, you would be amazed how many people do it. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_45.mp4 Yeah, yeah, they really do, and smokers. Yeah, and drinkers, they do, yes. Yeah. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_47.mp4 Like a new beginning. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_49.mp4 So, for you, it's your, you know, it sounds like you really want to be prepared. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_51.mp4 And yet, on some level, you know, that it's gonna be a lot of hard work for you because of, you know, you've already known how anxious you get about a stash- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_53.mp4 So if you have a stash Nicorette gum if you decide to use it, I mean, you'd have to have other stashes, you know. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_55.mp4 That worries you? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_57.mp4 Yeah. So, so if-if your doctor says it's okay with the Wellbutrin, one-- uh, we see very little if any weight gain- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_59.mp4 -with the Wellbutrin, yes. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_61.mp4 Yeah. And, um, the same with the Nicorette gum, because it- nicotine is an appetite suppressant. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_63.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_65.mp4 If you will. And that's if you decide you want to try a replacement therapy and that's what we call it and it-it kind of sounds from what you've described with your fear about you know, what it would be like of the withdrawal and everything like that. W-why you don't have to do it that way, you don't have to go cold-cold turkey. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_67.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_69.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_71.mp4 Yes. Yeah, yeah. So I think that- I think, I'm just a really big advocate of w-whatever is gonna enhance the quality and the length of your life. And if somebody becomes addicted to nicotine go- gum, God bless them. They're still gonna live longer, you know what I mean? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_73.mp4 So— other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_75.mp4 So, we'll do that so we'll-we'll talk about the hypnosis a little bit more, you know, you'll talk to your doc. Um, you'll do your research, you know, about programs and stuff, I'll give you any information I have and we'll take it from there. But it's sounding like the quit date might be coming up fairly-- like within the next two, three months. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_77.mp4 I, uh, mean that's up to you. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_79.mp4 You get to decide. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_81.mp4 Yeah. Is it appealing the thought of quitting with a group at the same time? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_83.mp4 Uh-huh. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_85.mp4 Okay, yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_87.mp4 Okay. So, that really sounds like something we can do. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_89.mp4 So, that would be can- the Cancer Society. So, we can look into that. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_91.mp4 All right. Well, I appreciate you coming in. We'll set up another appointment and, um, get our resources together. We'll take it from there and— reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_60_93.mp4 Oh, you're welcome. My pleasure, thank you. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_0.mp4 Hi Mrs. Smith, my name is Terri, I'm one of the nurses who works with Dr. Fields. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_2.mp4 Yes, I think when you were in last time. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_4.mp4 And I know that, uh, Dr. Fields talked with you last time about maybe trying a tai chi class to see how that would go, and I wanted to-to check in with you and see how tai chi went. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_6.mp4 Uh-huh. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_8.mp4 Uh-huh. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_10.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_12.mp4 Uh-huh. So, you thought it was beautiful and you liked the instructor, but you were a little self-conscious because you were in a chair? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_14.mp4 A lot self-conscious, uh-huh. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_16.mp4 What were you hoping to achieve with the, um, by going to tai chi? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_18.mp4 Uh-huh. So, you're hoping that it would help with balance, but you didn't see the- maybe the results you were looking for? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_20.mp4 Not yet. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_22.mp4 Uh-huh. What is your overall goal? What are you working towards? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_24.mp4 Uh-huh. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_26.mp4 Mm-hmm, and what is it that's important to you about getting home? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_28.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_30.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_32.mp4 Uh-huh. So, you're wanting to get home to your dog, your garden, back to your life, your independence? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_34.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_36.mp4 What do you think you need to do in order to be able to achieve that goal of getting home? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_38.mp4 Uh-huh. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_40.mp4 And do you agree that that's what you need to do in order to be able to get home? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_42.mp4 Uh-huh. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_44.mp4 Uh-huh. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_46.mp4 Uh-huh, and tell me how your physical therapy is going? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_48.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_50.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_52.mp4 So, it sounds like, um, you can see that you're making some progress in physical therapy- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_54.mp4 -and that you were hoping that the tai chi would help you with the wobblies. Uh-huh? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_56.mp4 And so, are you wanting to go back to tai chi? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_58.mp4 Uh-huh. I think it's important, um, that you know that you're the one who has to make the decision about whether or not tai chi works for you. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_60.mp4 Uh-huh. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_62.mp4 So, you haven't seen the results that you want yet- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_64.mp4 -but because Dr. Fields has recommended it and your friend has- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_66.mp4 -and it sounds like you like the instructor- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_68.mp4 -it sounds like you'd like to try and give it another chance? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_70.mp4 So, what has to happen in order for you to get to tai chi again? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_72.mp4 Uh-huh. Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_74.mp4 Uh-huh. So, how confident are you on a scale of 1 to 10 with one being not at all confident and 10 being very confident that you can make the arrangements in order to get to tai chi. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_76.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_78.mp4 Five. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_80.mp4 Uh-huh, so- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_82.mp4 Uh-huh. What is it that makes it a five instead of a one, no confidence? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_84.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_86.mp4 Uh-huh. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_88.mp4 Uh-huh. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_90.mp4 So, in order for you to feel more confident, you would like some help in making those arrangements? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_92.mp4 Uh-huh. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_94.mp4 And is that something that your daughter can do for you? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_96.mp4 Okay. Um, so is that something that you'd like us to help you with? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_98.mp4 Uh-huh. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_100.mp4 Sure we can make those arrangements with the rehab center. They have a van- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_102.mp4 -and-and they've done this for other patients so we can certainly make those arrangements if you'd like. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_104.mp4 Okay. So, are there any other barriers or obstacles in the way to you getting to tai chi? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_106.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_108.mp4 All right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_110.mp4 Well, it sounds like you can see that you're making some progress in your physical therapy. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_112.mp4 And that you're wanting to give tai chi another chance, and that if we can help make arrangements for you to get there with the van to the rehab center, that you'll give it another chance. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_114.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_116.mp4 Well, um, before you leave today, we'll go ahead and, um, I'll call the rehab center and make those arrangements. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_118.mp4 Sure. I'm-I'm happy to do that. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_120.mp4 And then when you come back in, I know you've got another follow up appointment with Dr. Fields, I'd like to check back with you then and see how class went the second time. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_122.mp4 All right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_61_124.mp4 Well, thank you very much for coming in today Mrs. Smith and I look forward to hearing about the progress that you're making. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_62_0.mp4 -- doing today? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_62_2.mp4 Good. Why don't you fill me in on what's been going on since I saw you last? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_62_4.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_62_6.mp4 So she talked to you a little bit about it, but it sounds like you're kind of unsure exactly the details. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_62_8.mp4 Okay. So why don't you tell me what you remember from having your conversation with your case manager? What do you know so far about community service? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_62_10.mp4 Okay, gotcha. So, you know, that it needs to get done- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_62_11.mp4 Yes.-you know, you have till the end of your probation- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_62_13.mp4 -but you're a little fuzzy on the details. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_62_15.mp4 Okay. Um, so maybe if it's okay with you, I can share with you some of, um, the requirements, maybe go over the details a little bit more. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_62_17.mp4 Is that all right? other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_62_19.mp4 Okay, great. Um, so with your community service I know you've got 25 hours left to do, um, so that does need to get done by the end of your probation, and your case manager is a really great resource to help you find a place where you can do it. So I know in the past some clients have done their community service at food pantries or shelters, or anywhere in the community that's not, you know, a family member or a friend. Um, the urban ecology center is a really great place. You can kind of work outside, work with younger kids. Do any of those options seem like a fit that you might be interested in? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_62_21.mp4 So that's something that you can work with your case manager on. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_62_23.mp4 So, um, that's something you can absolutely ask her or quest- or me some questions about, but they'll be able to come and bring you some options- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_62_25.mp4 -of places that you can work with, some phone numbers to call. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_62_27.mp4 And that is something that we'd kinda like to see you do on your own, but if you're really feeling like you're struggling, those are phone calls that either you and I can make together or you and your case manager can make together. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_62_29.mp4 Well, I mean, 24 hours in a weekend sounds to me like it might be a lot of time. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_62_31.mp4 I can- I can hear that you are really eager to just get it finished- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_62_33.mp4 -and get it out of the way. Maybe I know in the past it's been helpful for some other clients to sit down and take a calendar and just mark out, okay, I'm gonna do five hours this day, I'm gonna do three hours this day, two hours of this day. Does that sound like something that might be helpful for you? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_62_35.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_62_37.mp4 And then, you know, it might be, I definitely think that if you're committed and it's summer break, it's something you could easily get done in a week. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_62_39.mp4 What other questions do you have for me about community service? other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_62_41.mp4 Yup, absolutely. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_62_43.mp4 But you know that if you have any more questions, you can always come to me or your case manager and we're here for- to be a support for you. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_62_45.mp4 You're welcome. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_63_0.mp4 So Tom, this infection is been pretty painful for you but we have antibiotics. If you take it faithfully for 10 days, I'm sure that your infection will be gone. Can you do that? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_63_2.mp4 And do you mind if we talk about a screening form that you filled out earlier today on drug use? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_63_4.mp4 Let's take a look. It says that on occasion you use, uh, drugs other than medical reasons. Which drugs do you use? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_63_6.mp4 Snort it, smoke it? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_63_8.mp4 Don't inject it? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_63_10.mp4 Use any other drugs? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_63_12.mp4 And, uh, um, you do this how often? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_63_14.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_63_16.mp4 So you're an occasional meth user. You don't use very often? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_63_18.mp4 Only snort it? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_63_20.mp4 Well, as I think you know, Methamphetamine use is associated with some health risks. And the amount that you're using it-it puts you in a category that we consider a risky user. And that contrasts with someone who it says addicted, um, someone who's a heavy user but it's not in a healthy category because people who use Methamphetamine tend to run to a number of consequences. And actually one of them is, um, sexually transmitted diseases. Do you suppose that your STD might be associated with your Methamphetamine use? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_63_22.mp4 So you're normally very careful and you use protection when you have sex? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_63_24.mp4 And it seems to you that methamphetamine may have clouded your judgment? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_63_26.mp4 Anything else happening with Methamphetamine in your life? Is it affecting you in any way? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_63_28.mp4 Yeah, you know, I'm concerned bout it too and I'd actually recommend that you stop using Methamphetamine altogether. And, um, there-there are a lot of reasons for this but that's-that's would be my recommendation. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_63_30.mp4 So you recognize Methamphetamine has some problems associated with it and you also on the balance see that a lot of your social life and your sex life involves Methamphetamine, it would be difficult to quit using? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_63_32.mp4 Well, if you were to, um, consider how ready you are to stop using Methamphetamine completely- question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_63_34.mp4 -with zero being not ready at all- question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_63_36.mp4 -and 10 being ready, where would you put yourself? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_63_38.mp4 Why not a one or a two? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_63_40.mp4 Are there any other concerns that you have about Methamphetamine? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_63_42.mp4 Mm, so when I was first talking to you, I thought that you'd have a very, um, really not much interest in not stoping using Methamphetamine but it sounds like you have a number of reasons why you really would like to stop using Methamphetamine. And that is, um, that it might be cut with something else, um, you could get another ST- STD including HIV. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_63_44.mp4 Um, what do you think would make it easier for you to cut down or quit using Methamphetamine? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_63_46.mp4 How could you get a different social life? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_63_48.mp4 Is there anyone in your life who doesn't use methamphetamine? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_63_50.mp4 Does she-- Have you talked to her about your meth use? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_63_52.mp4 So on the one hand, it would be difficult to quit using Methamphetamine because there are so many positives that you get from using it. But on the other, there are reasons why you want to quit using methamphetamine. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_63_54.mp4 And there's some things that you might be able to do that would make it easier to not use methamphetamine including talking to your sister and getting some support. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_63_56.mp4 Well, great. I recommend that you not use Methamphetamine at all but what you do is up to you. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_63_58.mp4 I could see you again in a month. Would that work out for you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_0.mp4 Well, welcome, Ricky. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_2.mp4 Nice to meet you. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_4.mp4 And you found us okay? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_6.mp4 Alright. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_8.mp4 Yeah other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_10.mp4 Have you been here before? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_12.mp4 Mm. Okay. Alright. Well, um, I know a little about why you're here today- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_14.mp4 -um, but it's great to see you, and so maybe a good point to start with is, tell me why you're here. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_16.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_18.mp4 And that's led you to being here today? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_20.mp4 Alright. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_22.mp4 Right. So it sounds like you thought there was something that, uh, that you needed to look at, something that was concerning you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_24.mp4 They were concerned for you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_26.mp4 Alright. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_28.mp4 You were surprised? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_30.mp4 Yep. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_32.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_34.mp4 You're not sure that applies to you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_36.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_38.mp4 Alright. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_40.mp4 I'm trying to understand you so far, something's concerning you and something's concerning your friends- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_42.mp4 -but you're not sure whether it's- whether-- just how bad it is or- and you're just wanting to check that out? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_44.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_46.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_48.mp4 Because they care about you and-and you respect what they say, and you're wondering whether something about what they're saying may be right, but let's check that out a bit? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_50.mp4 Alright. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_52.mp4 Well, let's do some checking out. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_54.mp4 So tell me a little bit about what you're doing, what is- what is the concern that they are raising. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_56.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_58.mp4 Alright. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_60.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_62.mp4 Tell me a little bit about what now and again means, and-and-and how often. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_64.mp4 Is this- is this with, uh, with the drug? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_66.mp4 This is meth you're talking about? A couple of times a week? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_68.mp4 Well, maybe, we c-- we can check that out to see whether-whether it's a lot or-- But maybe also importantly to-to discuss with you what the effects are and-and-and what your concerns are about it. But help me to understand a little bit more of what it's like for you. Tell me- tell me what are the things about your, uh, use of meth that you- that you've liked that you found good for you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_70.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_72.mp4 I know Family Bar, yes. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_75.mp4 So Auckland, coming to Auckland from Palmerston for you was-was like taking charge of something that you were going to look to make something different in your life? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_77.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_79.mp4 Which you weren't aware of in Palmerston? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_81.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_83.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_85.mp4 Palmerston. Mm-hmm. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_87.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_89.mp4 It sounds like you're ready to move up to something that was different. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_91.mp4 And-and you came- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_93.mp4 -here to Auckland. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_95.mp4 Alright. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_97.mp4 And how does that feel for you now? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_99.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_101.mp4 So coming out, feeling-- being gay- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_103.mp4 -being part of a gay culture here in Auckland, is feeling good- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_105.mp4 -for you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_107.mp4 And at the same time, it's-it's linked closely with the- with the drug scene with the meth scene for you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_109.mp4 And you're not experiencing where these two things are separate? They just seem to be together more often than not? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_111.mp4 So— other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_113.mp4 It just sounds like something's worrying you about that there's-there's a part link there but there's not a link and that-that maybe that the drugs is-is becoming a more important part in your life. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_115.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_117.mp4 So something's changed recently? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_119.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_121.mp4 Tell me about those things you're noticing that you hadn't noticed before. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_123.mp4 That surprised you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_125.mp4 Mm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_127.mp4 Alright. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_129.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_131.mp4 So you're worried a little bit about it and you're going to find out more about it, but you're-you're not gonna take on this notion of being a headache or anything as yet— reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_133.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_135.mp4 So tell me then, um, Ricky, what- what's the other side of the good things that-that using meth or doing some smoking does for you? Is there a downside to it? Are there problems that you're experiencing? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_137.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_139.mp4 Quite a lot's changed over the last year from— reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_141.mp4 It doesn't sound like it was part of the plan. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_143.mp4 Sure. [chuckling] It's not a secure profession- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_145.mp4 -and it's-it's hard- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_147.mp4 -it's hard. But is-is there, I just wonder, is there a connection at all between the-the-the-the acting and the meth use in terms of the effect of the meth use on your- on your ability to get work? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_149.mp4 The drug may have had an effect on that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_151.mp4 Hmm. Hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_153.mp4 Alright. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_155.mp4 Alright. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_157.mp4 Right. And they got questions too- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_159.mp4 -to ask are they— other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_161.mp4 You're beginning to-to think about those things and-and-and what effect they may have on you. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_163.mp4 And the choices that you might have about it. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_165.mp4 What else? Are the-the-the-the problem of around the use of money, you know, the choices that you make around money, and the meth use has taken up quite a lot of the money- question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_167.mp4 -over the last year and maybe also the effect on-on um, your job and being able-- maybe you're not auditioning as well as you might. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_169.mp4 And maybe the effects um, also on-on your physical appearance. An interesting question around the effect of meth use on physical appearance. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_171.mp4 Um, what-- are there any other problems? Any other things that-that are a bit of a downside to this? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_173.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_175.mp4 And that's a problem? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_177.mp4 Why? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_179.mp4 They're important. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_182.mp4 YHmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_184.mp4 Hmm. But Ricky, let me just check, 'cause I may got this wrong, just check with you that um, there are some friends that you've got who do use who are still concerned about you. Did I get that right from what you said earlier that-that those who are concerned about you and were part of this intervention some of them use. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_186.mp4 And you-- So they have their concerns and-and you are beginning to-to ask questions of this use as well and- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_190.mp4 And we're g- we're gonna leave labels all that kind of stuff aside 'cause, you know, I'm picking up from you that that's not what that's about. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_192.mp4 I'm happy with that. What do you think will happen, what might happen if you can turn your-your uses- you're on now? What-what concerns do you have about not making any kind of change? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_194.mp4 Alright. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_196.mp4 This is gonna be your career. This is the career- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_198.mp4 -you want to make. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_200.mp4 Mm-hmm. It's harder when you're trying to create your career, get that going. You gotta- you gotta be at your- at your top, top pitch. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_202.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_204.mp4 Yeah, and-and maybe the meth use is-is compromising that. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_206.mp4 Hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_208.mp4 Alright, so it's back to the money thing again which is- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_210.mp4 Yeah. yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_212.mp4 That creates problems? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_214.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_216.mp4 Let's just come back to another thing, uh, that we were talking about a little bit earlier, and it's around your meth use as well and-and-and with your gay friends, with gay lifestyle. And-and that sounds like you're saying that-that-that when you party, when you go into the clubs, when you're being with friends that the meth use is always there? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_218.mp4 The-the availability of it is there. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_220.mp4 And everyone, most people are using. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_222.mp4 And it might be hard to be part of that scene and not to be using drugs? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_224.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_226.mp4 So there is a possibility that there are other parts of the scene that don't rely on drug use- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_228.mp4 -or particularly on-on meth use? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_230.mp4 So that might be something that we can look at but later if you're interested in is maybe what are some of those other parts of the gay scene, whose still party and party medley, but when meth is not a- is not a dominant- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_232.mp4 -factor in that partying, and we- where-where there are, uh, uh, uh, gay groups that support people who-who are not wanting to be-- they have a lifestyle that is heavily weighted to drug use. So there are some options there to look at some other ideas if you're interested and we might look at that, for you to think about- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_234.mp4 -to consider, so it's not about giving up anything, it's not about huge major changes, it's about how can I improve the situation. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_236.mp4 It's what I'm hearing you saying bring-- be a little bit more in control of what's-what's going on for me. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_238.mp4 So that I can pursue that plan. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_240.mp4 What could be a- what could be a first step towards that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_242.mp4 So that needs some thinking about, doesn't it? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_244.mp4 As to what- question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_246.mp4 -what would work for you- question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_248.mp4 -as an alternative. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_250.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_252.mp4 Yeah. Yeah. And there are things that have gotta work for you, so that- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_254.mp4 -that's your ideas on there which are really important. But again there are some options, that if you wanted to look at, you know, just to at least be able to know what they are. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_256.mp4 Because there are clubs and there are groups and there are all kinds of things that meet through the week. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_258.mp4 And so, though they're not going to be necessarily like the party scene, they are other activities. Now I'm talking about gay groups and gay activities which are an option that- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_64_260.mp4 "-you know, good to know about and-and-and maybe in-- within those options or something you might say, ""Oh yeah, I'd give that a go. Have a look."" " therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_65_1.mp4 Mm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_65_3.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_65_5.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_65_7.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_65_9.mp4 Okay. So right now you're seeing that it's a part of your life. It's been a part of your life off and on for 18 years. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_65_11.mp4 It's become a more important part of your life because you found yourself smoking at times that you thought I'll never smoke then. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_65_13.mp4 Yeah. And your worry is that if you stop, you will end up gaining weight. So I'm hearing this kind of list of things that don't feel so positive about stopping. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_65_15.mp4 I'm wondering what else might be on that list. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_65_17.mp4 Mm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_65_19.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_65_21.mp4 Mm-hmm. Okay. Yeah. So added to the other list is the having to go through the withdrawal- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_65_23.mp4 -the unpleasantness of that. Okay. What else might be on the, not so good side about smoking- about stopping? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_65_25.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_65_27.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_65_29.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_65_31.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_65_33.mp4 Mm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_66_0.mp4 Hi, Mr. Stowe. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_66_2.mp4 How are you doing today? I'm Bruce Berger. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_66_4.mp4 I, uh, I'm a case manager with your health plan. I understand that you came in today to talk about your diabetes. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_66_6.mp4 So you just- you just saw the doctor and, uh, you know, you sound like you just got blindsided, uh, with, uh, not only how, how frightening this seems that you have diabetes and that, uh, she-- you say she told you a whole lot of things that can happen with your eyes and circulation and all those kinds of things. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_66_8.mp4 And so you're really kind of reeling right now from, uh, all of that. And you sound a little bit pretty, pretty scared actually. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_66_10.mp4 So it sounds like- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_66_12.mp4 So it sounds a lot like, uh, on top of the fact that you've got something you're really scared about having consequences in terms of everything that can happen, what worries you also is all the different things that she told you you're going to need to do to get it under control. Can't imagine doing all those things, so you almost feel like all that bad stuff's gonna happen. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_66_14.mp4 Okay. And I-- And what I want to do is help you kind of break this up into some-some doable chunks so that we can get your blood sugar down. I, you know, on the one hand, your doctor is right, you know. Your blood sugar is very high and we do wanna get it down so that we don't have those consequences happen. Uh, and-and there are a number of things that you need to do in order to-to get your blood sugar down. Um, you know, on the other hand, we can take this a step at a time, so it's not so overwhelming. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_66_15.mp4 And I'd like you to be able to tell me what kinds of things that you can do right now. You know, for example, there- there's basically three things that need to be worked out with diabetes. Taking your medicine as prescribed. And honestly, if I was gonna work on one thing right away, given that everything seems so overwhelming would probably that-that first, because that'll have the biggest impact. How-how does that sound so far? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_66_17.mp4 So that's easy to do. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_66_19.mp4 Yeah. 'Cause it looks like you need to just take your medicine, uh, uh, once a day from-from the prescription. So that sounds doable right now. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_66_21.mp4 Okay. The other things that need to be worked on over time certainly would be changing your eating habits, you know, to eat- eat healthier, uh, not necessarily less, but healthier. And the other thing would be getting, um, some more physical activity. And by the way, that doesn't mean going to a gym. That means things like more walking, maybe using stairs instead of an elevator or an escalator, stuff like that. Uh. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_66_23.mp4 Yeah. And that really is to give you feedback about how those other things are doing so that it keeps you on task. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_66_25.mp4 So it helps you know that when you're taking your medicine, when you're changing your eating habits, that it's really having an impact on your blood sugar 'cause getting your blood sugar down is going to keep you from having all of those other problems. How does all this-- where does this leave you now right now in terms of how you're feeling? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_66_27.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_66_29.mp4 It sounds like you're very committed to that. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_67_0.mp4 Is it okay if we go over the form you had filled out? We give this out to everybody who comes in. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_67_2.mp4 All right. So here, it looks like you wrote that you drank alcohol on a few occasions in the last year, and you have used marijuana more often, 30 days in last year. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_67_4.mp4 Okay. When students and I talk about their substance use, the first thing I always say, I don't like to tell anyone what to do. That's not my job. Instead, I like to see if there's anything they would like to do, if anything, about their use. So what can you tell me about your marijuana use? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_67_6.mp4 Okay. How often? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_67_8.mp4 Do you vape anything else besides marijuana? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_67_10.mp4 Okay. Is it okay if I share some information with you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_67_12.mp4 We know marijuana has effects on the developing brain. For example, it can make it harder for you to concentrate, it can make it harder for you to remember things, and vaping can seriously hurt your lungs. About one in six people who begin using marijuana as a teenager, later on, become addicted. So what do you think about all this information that I've shared? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_67_14.mp4 How do you think it affects you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_67_16.mp4 Is there anything about marijuana that worries you, many things that you don't like? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_67_18.mp4 How could you get in trouble at school? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_67_20.mp4 So staying in school and playing on the basketball team is important to you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_67_22.mp4 So when you think about these things, are there any things you would like to change about your marijuana use? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_67_24.mp4 What would be the benefits of that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_67_26.mp4 Marijuana affects how well you play. What would be the other benefits for you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_67_28.mp4 Okay. Well, it sounds like you have a goal of not using marijuana once basketball starts. How long do you think you could not use? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_67_30.mp4 Okay. If I asked you to pick a number, 0 through 10, 0 meaning you're not very confident at all in meeting your goal, or 10 meaning you're very confident, what number would you pick? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_67_32.mp4 A seven. Why do you think you picked that instead of a lower number like five? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_67_34.mp4 So, what steps could you take to help you stop using for a month? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_67_36.mp4 How about this question? What might happen within a month that might make you want to vape? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_67_38.mp4 What else could you do instead of vaping when you feel that way? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_67_40.mp4 Anything else? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_67_42.mp4 Playing basketball and playing video games are a way to feel better. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_67_44.mp4 Well, I'm glad to hear that you have a goal of quitting for a month and you are confident of reaching that goal. If you're willing to come back in a month or so, I would be curious to hear how your plan works out. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_67_46.mp4 Well, Good luck with basketball practice. If you want anything or need to talk about something before our next appointment, I'm here Monday through Thursday, and it's always good to see you. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_0.mp4 Hi, Andrea, thanks for coming in. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_2.mp4 So I don't know how much you know already about sort of my role here and why you're even here. So I thought I'd start by telling you a little bit about myself. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_4.mp4 Basically, my job is to meet with all of the students. I meet with everybody about once or twice a semester and just talk with you a little bit about how things are going, different behaviors that you might be engaging in, and thinking about any changes you might wanna make for your life if you decide that you do. It's not my job to change you. I couldn't even if I wanted to. That's not my role at all. It's really to help you think about, you know, how things are going for you and how you might like making changes or moving forward. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_6.mp4 Does that sound okay? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_8.mp4 All right. So why don't we start by you telling me a little bit about yourself? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_10.mp4 Oh, neat. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_12.mp4 Wow. You really are involved in music. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_14.mp4 When did you start? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_16.mp4 Wow. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_18.mp4 Very cool. I've always wanted to be good at music. [laughter] All right. So it sounds like you're in band and a-a few other musical ensembles, any other hobbies you have or things you like to do for fun? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_20.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_22.mp4 Just kind of everyday sort of stuff? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_24.mp4 Okay. Tell me a little bit about your family. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_26.mp4 Cute. What kind of dog? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_28.mp4 Oh, nice. Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_30.mp4 [laughs] Very fun. All right. And how are things going in school for you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_32.mp4 Okay, great, so you're doing well. What sorts of goals do you have for after college- oh, after high school? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_34.mp4 Oh, all right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_36.mp4 Okay, you have some pretty big dreams. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_38.mp4 That's great. That's really exciting to think about that- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_40.mp4 -and sort of be looking forward to the future and those things. All right. Well, one thing I'm going to ask you about is, um, you know, different people have sort of different things that they really value in their life. Whether it's, you know, their cultural identity or their family or their friends or job or hobbies, things like that. So here's the little sheet that goes through just some basic values that, um, might be more or less important to certain people. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_42.mp4 Like belonging or sense of community. Again, cultural identity or family, friendship, modesty, religion, respect, self-determination and spirituality. So, when you think about yourself, which of these are kind of most important to you in terms of your life? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_44.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_46.mp4 Respect, okay. Can you tell me a little bit about why you picked those three? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_48.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_50.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_52.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_54.mp4 Okay, great. So sort of being a part of a group and being a part of a team gives you a sense of, um, uh, belonging, like you said. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_56.mp4 And sort of a-a sense of purpose in a way. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_58.mp4 And then the respect is really sort of all-encompassing. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_60.mp4 Not just authority, but respecting yourself, respecting your teammates or your bandmates and other people around you. Okay, that's great. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_62.mp4 All right. Well, um, one of the things I wanted to talk to you about sort of relates to belonging and your friends. So what kinds of things do you like to do when you get together with your friends? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_64.mp4 Mm-hmm, and when you're hanging out with friends, is there ever alcohol involved? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_66.mp4 Okay. Can you tell me a little bit about how alcohol fits into sort of your social scene? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_68.mp4 Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. And so when you go to parties, most of the time there's alcohol there? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_70.mp4 Okay. And how often do you think you would say you're drinking? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_72.mp4 Mm-hmm. So about half the time you're drinking and half the time you're not. Can you tell me what's different about the days when you choose to drink versus not to drink? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_74.mp4 So it really depends on what the activity is, whether or not alcohol is gonna be there? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_76.mp4 Okay. And do you notice a big difference or can you tell me about the difference in your enjoyment level at say a party versus a night you're playing board games? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_78.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_80.mp4 Uh-huh. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_82.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_84.mp4 Okay. So there's sort of pros and cons on both sides? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_86.mp4 Okay. What are the things that you like about drinking or like about alcohol? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_88.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_90.mp4 Okay. So sort of in the-the too much drinking or-or at times, can you tell me some of the less good things or not so good things about alcohol? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_92.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_94.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_96.mp4 Mm-hmm. So you're trying to, like you said, not engage in really dangerous activities? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_98.mp4 You're trying to stay put, you're not driving. You're trying to stay with people that you trust. Um, but yet it sounds like there's still some-some things happening from time to time. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_100.mp4 Can you tell me a little bit about that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_102.mp4 Yeah. Throwing up is never fun. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_104.mp4 And how often do you think that happens? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_106.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_108.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_110.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_112.mp4 Uh-huh. Okay. So, on the one side, some of the fun things associated with alcohol are people are just more relaxed, sorta, um, carefree can kind of let loose a little bit more, on-on the other hand, there's a little bit more, I guess, planning involved- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_114.mp4 -because you have to make sure that you're doing it safely or as safe as you can. And then, um, there can be some other consequences like throwing up or even if it's not you, that sometimes you're stuck your-your fun is sort of ruined when you're stuck dealing with a friend who drunk too much. Okay. And the other not so good things about the alcohol? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_116.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_118.mp4 So you're kind of stuck being exposed to things you don't need to see. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_120.mp4 Got it. Okay. Um, all right. Well, you mentioned a couple of times that you've made a few decisions to try and limit the dangerous aspect of the drinking. Why did you make those decisions? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_122.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_124.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_126.mp4 Okay. Yeah, it sounds kinda similar to your, um, your value of respect to yourself. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_128.mp4 On the one hand, you- the drinking maybe helps with the belonging community to start. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_130.mp4 If there's too much, then it sort of— reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_132.mp4 Right. And then with the respect, one of the things you mentioned, is really wanting to respect yourself and not sort of cross boundaries, not sort of cross lines. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_134.mp4 Um, how do you think that the drinking fits in with that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_136.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_138.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_140.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_142.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_144.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_146.mp4 Okay. So you're sort of looking for that balance- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_148.mp4 -of how much you can drink to have some of the positive benefits but not cross over. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_149.mp4 Okay. And what have you come up with at this point? Do you have sort of a-a limit that you stick to or are you--? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_151.mp4 Mm-hmm. Okay. And do you feel that that's working pretty well for you or do you sometimes exceed that limit or-or what do you think? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_153.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_155.mp4 So, uh, uh, a portion of the time it's working well for you and another portion of the time maybe you would like- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_157.mp4 -would like to make some adjustments- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_159.mp4 -to-to make it a little smoother. Okay. So, kind of thinking along those lines, how important is it to you make some changes or make some adjustments to your drinking to sort of fit with your values and your goals for yourself? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_161.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_163.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_165.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_167.mp4 Uh-huh. So kind of combining you alls- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_169.mp4 -goals. Okay. So, you-you have a goal it sounds like, of actually cutting back on your drinking. How important is it to you to work on that goal and on a scale of one to ten, where one is not at all important and ten is it's the most important thing right now? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_171.mp4 Oh, okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_173.mp4 Uh-huh. Why do you say six or seven rather than like a four? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_175.mp4 Uh-huh. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_177.mp4 Yeah, looking ahead, you can't keep drinking this way and reach the goals that you have for yourself. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_179.mp4 Okay. Well, how confident are you that you could cut down if you wanted to- question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_181.mp4 -on that same scale from one to ten? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_183.mp4 Oh, wow. Okay. Why do you say 10? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_185.mp4 Okay. And so you mentioned the- you know, quite a few reasons why you would like to cut down. Um, have you thought at all about how you might go about doing that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_187.mp4 So sort of, um, trying to plan more activities that don't involve alcohol- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_189.mp4 -and then also trying to participate in activities without drinking yourself or maybe even drinking less than you're drinking. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_191.mp4 Okay. Does that sound like a goal you want to work on now or? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_193.mp4 Okay. Um, so I guess we'll talk about, um, less alcohol activities. I'm just making some notes to myself and then maybe, um, reducing the amount of drinking that you're doing if alcohol is involved. Okay. Um, so that-that goal sounds feasible, you said? Would it be okay if we met in a couple of weeks to sort of see how it's going? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_195.mp4 Does that sound like something you'd like to do? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_197.mp4 Okay. Well, I really appreciate you spending the time talking to me, you know, it sounds like you have a lot of really good goals for yourself, really ambitious goals of going to medical school and, you know, becoming a psychiatrist or, um, some-some other form of physician. Um, you're really looking forward to doing well in school so you can get there. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_198.mp4 And it sounds like you have a pretty active social life and a-a lot of friends who you feel probably would be, uh, supportive, even if you cut down on alcohol and that, you know, there's a lot of benefits you see both to your body and your health, um, your school performance, and even some of the social stuff in terms of feeling a sense of belonging without having to deal with some of the gross consequences of-of, um, drinking too much. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_199.mp4 Um, so yeah, you know, it really sounds to me like you have a good plan in place and as long as you're willing and-and interested in meeting again, I'd be very excited to be able to talk with you about how it's going. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_201.mp4 All right. Great. So I'll-I'll plan to see you then in a few more weeks. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_68_203.mp4 Great. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_70_0.mp4 Hi, Dr. Martin. I'm Lori. I'm the pharmacist on duty here today. I understand that you have some questions about the medication citalopram. Do you have a minute to talk about that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_70_2.mp4 All right. Well, do you have any specific questions? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_70_4.mp4 Okay. Well, citalopram is an SSRI medication. Its indication is for depression and it's typically dosed as a 20-milligram tablet but it is available as 10, 20, and 40 milligrams. Any patients started on this medication should be monitored for improvement in symptoms in four to eight weeks. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_70_6.mp4 If there are some side effects to this, it can include GI effects, sedation, or sexual dysfunction. But if you have a patient that suffers from any of those things, you can try either decreasing the dose or changing them to a different agent. Do you have any other questions? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_70_8.mp4 Oh, that I'm not sure of. Um, can I get back to you later on this afternoon with that answer? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_70_10.mp4 Fantastic. Thank you. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_0.mp4 So, you've got this dream by the sounds of it, which is, you know, to have a partner, and a house, and a nice car- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_2.mp4 -so don't forget the nice car, and some kids, and be a- be a good dad- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_4.mp4 -to your kids. So, is this dream starting to-- I am getting a picture of? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_6.mp4 Yeah. Okay. So, what I'm really interested in is how offending fits in with that picture, that dream. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_8.mp4 Yeah, how doesn't it fit, Billy? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_10.mp4 Yeah? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_12.mp4 Yeah. It kinda messes up that dream, that picture? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_14.mp4 Mm. Makes it harder? Yeah. Well, it can make it harder to keep a job, aye? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_16.mp4 And harder to— reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_18.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_20.mp4 And we've talked about that idea of you getting a job and something to do with cars 'cause that's where your passion is. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_22.mp4 Yeah? So, what have you been thinking, um, since we last met, about what you might do about getting that kind of job? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_24.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_26.mp4 Okay, so you know some people? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_28.mp4 You've gone down that road of kind of going back to school in some ways and getting a tryout or- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_30.mp4 -getting a qualification? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_32.mp4 Yeah? So, what-what would interest you about going down that same, sort of, path? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_34.mp4 Mm-hmm. Yeah, so what in particular? Like, if you could have whatever you wanted, in terms of that sort of work, what would you do? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_36.mp4 Mm-hmm. So, as long as it has to do with cars, you'd be sweet with that? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_38.mp4 Yeah? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_40.mp4 Okay. So-so what sort of things do you think you need to do to go down that path to get that qualification? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_42.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_44.mp4 Okay. So, what sort of training did you-- did these people, that you've been talking about, what did they do? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_46.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_48.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_50.mp4 Yeah. So, how confident are you that you could do something similar to these-these friends that you've got? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_52.mp4 Okay. So, it would be pretty easy. So, if it's pretty easy, what do you need to do next, Billy? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_54.mp4 Okay. So, you actually went to the polytech— reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_56.mp4 -and picked up some forms? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_58.mp4 Wow. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_60.mp4 That's fantastic, Billy. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_64.mp4 Tell me- tell me what happened when you say they-- like it didn't help you? What-what-what happened? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_66.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_68.mp4 Okay. So, they gave you a horde of forms for a particular course? other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_70.mp4 Mm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_72.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_74.mp4 Okay. So, you got the forms, took them- took them home? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_76.mp4 Mm-hmm. You said the forms were confusing? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_78.mp4 Yeah? What-what's the confusing bit? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_80.mp4 Yeah. So, when you've had to write things or fill out forms before, how-how's that been for you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_82.mp4 You don't like writing? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_84.mp4 Yeah. So, wondering what that's about, about not actually liking writing. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_86.mp4 People can't read-- People can't read your handwriting? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_88.mp4 Oh, you must be a doctor. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_90.mp4 Yeah? [chuckles] Yeah? other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_92.mp4 Okay. So, you need some help to fill out the forms? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_94.mp4 Mm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_96.mp4 Okay. All right, so what-what do you need to do, Billy, to actually get to that point where you can fill out a form and post it off? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_98.mp4 Okay, so you feel like it would be embarrassing to ask Donna to give you some help- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_100.mp4 -because you feel that she might find out something about you that you're not quite sure you want her to find out? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_102.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_104.mp4 Hmm. So, who else could you ask to help you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_106.mp4 Well, have you got the forms with you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_108.mp4 Okay. I'm wondering about-- because it sounds like this whole idea about filling out the forms, is getting in the way of this bigger dream that you've got which is around getting a qualification around something to do with cars- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_110.mp4 -and getting on this road where you're staying out of trouble because you've got this, um, interest- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_112.mp4 -which you can do. So, it seems a real shame that the forms are gonna get in the way, so we need to find a way around the forms. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_114.mp4 Yeah? So, what do you think, between now and next week, you can do around the forms? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_116.mp4 She'd probably help you, but you don't really want to. It sounds like you're a bit embarrassed. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_118.mp4 Mm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_120.mp4 So, the whole thing about going back to poly-- going back to school- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_122.mp4 -going back to polytech is-- would-would require a really big change in the way which you're currently living, and you're not quite sure if you can do that. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_124.mp4 Yeah. So, there's something here about your level of-- about how confident you are around writing or how unconfident you are, that sounds like it's getting in the way. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_126.mp4 Mm. Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_128.mp4 All right. So, it sounds like we might need to have some more conversation around that. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_130.mp4 So, what's really getting in the way? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_132.mp4 Well, this writing business. What's really getting in the way? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_134.mp4 Well, I'm wondering, like-- it sounds like it's a thing that you're putting up as saying you can't do- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_136.mp4 -so I'm wondering where you are around your writing and you're reading? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_138.mp4 Mm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_140.mp4 Yeah. Well, I have to say, I think it's really obvious that you're not retarded. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_142.mp4 [chuckles] other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_144.mp4 Yeah, we are having a really good conversation here. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_146.mp4 So, reading and writing is not a strong point for you. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_148.mp4 Mm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_150.mp4 So, how much reading and writing is involved in the course that you're gonna go on? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_152.mp4 So, what'd it be like if you were more confident in your reading and writing? What'd that be like? other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_154.mp4 Mm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_156.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_158.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_160.mp4 And, I guess that there will be manuals and stuff like that on- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_162.mp4 -your course that, you know, to-- the hands-on stuff, it sounds like you're really confident around doing, but it's the more reading, writing, book, kind of, stuff that you are not so-- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_164.mp4 Mm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_166.mp4 Mm. Okay. So- so like before you get to here where you got this dream and there's some things that need to happen before that. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_71_168.mp4 Yeah. So, mm, we need to think about what's the very first step. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_73_1.mp4 So with his encouragement, you-you tried some drugs. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_73_3.mp4 You tried oxy? Okay. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_73_5.mp4 Okay. And he encouraged you to do that. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_73_7.mp4 He said that it would help you with some of the pain that you've been having. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_73_9.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_73_11.mp4 Okay. So you trusted him on that, and you tried it out and you found that it helped you in certain ways. What are some of the things that you said it's-- takes some of the pain away, it's not just-- you know. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_73_13.mp4 Okay, so that's helped you. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_73_15.mp4 Mm-hmm. So it help— reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_73_17.mp4 Okay. So it's not something you wanna rely on, you don't see yourself continuing to use this. It's something that you'v found at least for the moment very helpful? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_73_19.mp4 But it's not something that you wanna make a habit of becoming reliant on, or dependent? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_73_21.mp4 Yeah, okay. Um, and-and so that's a lot going on right now for you? Yeah. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_73_23.mp4 You've been managing in the best way you can. You also have some doubts about it too, it sounds like? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_73_25.mp4 Okay, so for now you know that it makes you feel good. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_76_1.mp4 Hi, Deborah. How are you doing today? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_76_3.mp4 Yes, um, so you did do your Values Clarification Sheet. Is there anything that you'd like to talk about that you discovered? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_76_5.mp4 Oh, so it's your first? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_76_7.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_76_9.mp4 So, health being your number one, um, which is kind of pushing you into this new direction, as far as you being a prior officer worker? You're doing something that you're actually living to do. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_76_11.mp4 Now, have you done this sheet more than once? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_76_13.mp4 And then, has health always been number one for you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_76_15.mp4 Inner harmony is number two? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_76_17.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_76_19.mp4 So, would you like to express more on the inner harmony part of how that affects your life? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_76_21.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_76_23.mp4 So, yoga, is that based on the number two, like inner harmony? That's where that comes from? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_76_25.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_76_27.mp4 Yes, yes, yes. So, basically, reflecting on how you felt before about you were coming second, third, and fourth. Um, it was- it was really a problem, you know, like, how could you be so, you know, selfish, and think about yourself when- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_76_29.mp4 -the reality is inner peace and inner harmony is based around, you know, self-self worth, and you know, self-- and-and dealing with- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_77_0.mp4 Hi, Mrs. Smith. It's really nice to see you again. I see you're back to follow up on the stroke you had. How are things going for you at the rehab facility? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_77_2.mp4 Kind of slow? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_77_4.mp4 What kind of things have you been in your rehab? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_77_6.mp4 It hurts? Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. Where are you having pain? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_77_8.mp4 Well, you know, I-I understand that pain is hard to work through but a lot of time when you're having rehab after a stroke, that pain is telling you that your muscles and joints are starting to work again. So you can kind of think of it as a positive way to, you know, know that your-your body's getting back to normal. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_77_10.mp4 But what are your goals for the long term? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_77_12.mp4 Oh, of course, of course. And what are the things that you'd like to be able to do once you get home? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_77_14.mp4 Yeah, yeah. And so that's a very important goal to be able to get back home, to be able to get back to your independence. Have you thought about what it might take to get there? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_77_16.mp4 Mm-hmm. Yeah, you're absolutely right. And it's also going to be very important that once you're home, you're able to continue on a regular activity program. Have you thought about what that might look like? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_77_18.mp4 Not really, okay. Well, have you ever heard of something called Tai Chi? Is that a familiar term to you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_77_20.mp4 You've heard of it? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_77_22.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_77_24.mp4 Well, you know, Tai Chi is one of the best ways to get your balance back after you've had something like a stroke. And it's also really good for preventing falls. And if you wanna be home and you wanna be doing the things you wanna do and going for walks with your dog, it's very important to make sure that you don't fall 'cause that would cause more problems down the road. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_77_26.mp4 So what do you think about Tai Chi? Is that something you think you might be able to try sometime? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_77_28.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_77_30.mp4 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, it's not that easy to get started. You do certainly have to have some motivation to want to do it. Um, and when you first start, oftentimes you do feel a little wobbly or a little insecure. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_77_32.mp4 Yeah, yeah, I understand. So there are lots of places around that have it. Your local senior center would have it. And what I recommend is that you start by doing it in a chair. Just sitting in the chair. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_77_34.mp4 You could. You can talk to the instructor and that way you won't fall, you'll feel confident and you'll start to learn some of the moves. And then gradually over time, as you get a little bit better at doing the moves in a chair, you can start to stand up, use the chair to lean on, and then eventually, you'll be able to get to the point where you can do it on your own. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_77_36.mp4 You know, it cuts your risk of falls in half. It also helps to reduce pain although that's not a short-term benefit, you do have to stick with it for at least three to six months to start have it help reduce your pain. But it does have a number of things that I think would get you to your goals of being home and able to play with your dog and doing your own cooking and things like that. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_77_38.mp4 I do Tai Chi. I do it three days a week and it's really helped my balance as well. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_77_40.mp4 All right. Well, I'm delighted. It's a pleasure to see you again. I hope your rehab continues to go well and we can talk some more about this at our next visit. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_77_42.mp4 All right. Thank you for coming in. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_78_0.mp4 Hi. Are you Julie Thompson? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_78_2.mp4 Hi, I'm Bruce Berger. I work in the clinic and, uh, I noticed that you're in to pick up a prescription for Sarah's, uh, rescue inhaler- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_78_4.mp4 -for her asthma. I noticed that she's been in the emergency room five times in the last year for her asthma. What's that- what's that been like for you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_78_6.mp4 Yeah, it sounds like you'd be willing to do whatever you can to try to prevent that from happening. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_78_8.mp4 Okay. I-I also noticed that, uh, it's been about three months or so since you picked up the prescription for her chronic inhaler. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_78_10.mp4 Are you having some difficulties with that? other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_78_12.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_78_14.mp4 Well, it sounds like you care about Sarah a great deal. You-you don't want her, uh, using steroids. You're worried about what kind of effects those would have on her and you're- you're working hard to keep your smoking away from her so it doesn't affect her asthma. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_78_16.mp4 Okay. Uh, would you mind if we talked a little bit about the chronic inhaler and the medicine that you're concerned about with, you know, the steroids because, you know, I certainly don't want her using a medicine that has steroids in it, like the ones that you're worried about for athletes. Uh, can we talk about that just a little bit? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_78_18.mp4 Okay. Even though, uh, even though this medicine isn't the-the medicine that's in this is in the same broad family as the steroids you're worried about, and those are called anabolic steroids. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_78_20.mp4 Which build people up and have masculinizing effects. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_78_22.mp4 If-if I can draw an analogy-- Again, even though this medicine is in the same family as those big broad-broad family. If I could draw an analogy, a grape and a watermelon are in the same family of fruits, you know, and obviously, grape is much smaller than a watermelon. And if you eat one grape, you'd be fine. If you ate an entire watermelon, it can make you very sick. If we look at the grape as the medicine your daughter's taking, again, it's in the same broad family, the amount of drug that your daughter is getting is very small. Uh, and not only that it's not an anabolic steroid, even though it's in the same big family. And what this drug does is actually reduces the inflammation in your daughter's lungs. And-and it doesn't even get absorbed into the body. It only goes to her lungs. And as I said, I wouldn't want your daughter taking a medication that could have the impact of those anabolic steroids. This is really safe for your daughter to use. So what-what are your thoughts about considering having her using this? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_78_24.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_78_26.mp4 "Yeah, def-definitely would not. I mean, probably you saw the name corticosteroid and thought, ""uh-oh."" " therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_78_28.mp4 You know. And so-- yeah, and that- and that does concern people. But I do want to reassure you that this is medication that only goes to her lungs, and won't get in her body and they're not the same kind of drugs as the ones you're worried about. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_78_30.mp4 Do you mind if I talk to you a little bit about what your daughter's lungs are like when she's having these inflammations and needing to go to the emergency room? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_78_32.mp4 Okay. When-when somebody has asthma, their lungs are like hypersensitive. If I could use an analogy, again, if-if you had the skin burnt off your arm, if somebody brushed up against you before he had the skin burned off your arm, it wouldn't bother you at all. But when the skin's burned off your arm, you literally react to it. Her lungs are exquisitely sensitive. Uh, and like the skin on your arm would be if the skin got burned off. And what this drug can do? This chronic inhaler is reduce the inflammation in her lungs so that her lungs don't remain exquisitely sensitive. Because otherwise, everything in the air like dust, pollen, uh, reacts with her, uh, in ways that it would not normally affect us. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_78_34.mp4 And so this chronic inhaler can really prevent that from happening. Okay? Which is why it's so important to use it. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_78_36.mp4 The other thing I was going to tell you is that, unfortunately, uh, even though you are smoking outside and keeping the smoke away from her, the smoke on your clothes, because her lungs are so sensitive, can also affect her lungs and cause her to have a reaction. Now, something I'd like you to think about is that, if you use the chronic inhaler every day, she may not be sensitive to the smoke on your clothes, but she still maybe because her lungs are just very different than ours. Um, honestly, I'd love to see you quit smoking for you too because, you know, as you know, it's not real good for you. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_78_38.mp4 Uh, and it would certainly help her. Um, but what I'd like you to do is to, kind of, keep an eye on what happens when she uses the chronic inhaler. And if she's still flaring up when you're around her, if there are any, if there is smoke on your clothes because it-it can flare her up. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_78_40.mp4 Yeah. Yeah. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_78_42.mp4 It-it-it-- Yeah. It may not- it may not when she uses the chronic inhaler, uh, but you'll need to keep an eye on that. Obviously, it would be- what would be best if it didn't get on your clothes, or you quit smoking. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_78_44.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_78_46.mp4 Very hard. It's very relaxing, and- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_78_48.mp4 And-and it's hard to replace it with something. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_78_50.mp4 So, uh, any thoughts on what you may be able to do to-to help at this point, if you don't choose to quit right away? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_78_52.mp4 Oh, that-that sounds like it would be great if you were able to do that. Obviously, don't smoke in the house, you know- you know. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_78_54.mp4 Um, so yeah. If you're willing to do that, that certainly would help. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_78_56.mp4 Uh, again, if you get to the point sometime down the road where you're willing to quit for both you and her, uh, we'd be glad to help you do that. Because you're right it is- it's not an easy thing to do. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_78_58.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_78_60.mp4 So it sounds like right now where we are, is you're willing to-to have her use the chronic inhaler- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_78_62.mp4 -to try to get the inflammation down, so she doesn't need to go to the emergency room and do whatever you can at this point to keep the smoke off your clothes. And I think you're gonna see big changes in terms of, uh, her not needing to go to the emergency room, and you probably won't need to use the rescue inhaler hardly at all. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_78_64.mp4 Yeah, because you'll get that inflammation down. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_78_66.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_78_68.mp4 Yeah. So we'll go ahead and get both of those prescriptions ready. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_78_70.mp4 Use the chronic inhaler every day, keep the rescue inhaler around if she needs it. Uh, and let's see how that works. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_78_72.mp4 Okay? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_78_74.mp4 All right. Good. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_79_1.mp4 How did you know you messed up? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_79_3.mp4 Was it that something happened, um, where you put something that was really important to you at risk? Is that what that was about, um, when you say you felt guilty, uh, you felt bad talking to Erin on the phone? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_79_5.mp4 So you saw yourself putting something that was important to you at risk. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_79_7.mp4 Here you are actually, three months on, three long months as you say, um, and things have been going really well, Uh, you even get a bit of— reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_79_9.mp4 Yeah. Well, and then you get the kind of, I don't know if it felt like a green light or a yellow, it went from red to cautionary, you could see your kids, and that was something that was really what you were working for. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_80_0.mp4 Jean, it's good to see you again. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_80_2.mp4 So, what's been different since the last time we talked a week ago? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_80_4.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_80_6.mp4 Mm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_80_8.mp4 Sure. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_80_10.mp4 Sure. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_80_12.mp4 So, you've been able to cut down by two or three cigarettes? That's amazing. I mean, given how much you were smoking. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_80_14.mp4 So, you were able to keep the, uh, the journal? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_80_16.mp4 You-- Sounds like you did that, and that allowed you to really focus on the time [unintelligible 00:00:57] delaying your cigarettes. So-so that's gone well. So, what are the things that are not going as well as you'd liked? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_80_18.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_80_20.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_80_22.mp4 Okay. So, these automatic cigarettes, when you're socializing and you're-- you have time on your hands, really, are the problems that you're facing- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_80_24.mp4 -uh, and that you've noticed are more difficult than the others? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_80_26.mp4 In marking it down, okay. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_80_28.mp4 Okay. So, and you've thought about already, what you might do, such as getting a hobby. Any other thoughts of what you might do to help you overcome this? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_80_30.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_80_32.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_80_34.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_80_36.mp4 Sure. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_80_38.mp4 Okay. So, from now to the next time you come back and see me, what is it that you'd like to-to work on? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_80_40.mp4 Okay, so you can continue with that. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_80_42.mp4 Sure. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_80_44.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_80_46.mp4 You said five cigarettes this time. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_80_48.mp4 And any thoughts about what concretely you could do to make that happen? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_80_50.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_80_52.mp4 Right. [unintelligible 00:02:58] other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_80_54.mp4 Sure. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_80_56.mp4 Sure. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_80_58.mp4 So, given what you're-you're attempting to do, when would it be good for you to come back and talk about this? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_80_60.mp4 Absolutely. Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_80_62.mp4 Good. So, we'll see you in a week. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_81_0.mp4 Did you like how your parents raised you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_81_1.mp4 Tell me about how your parents raised you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_81_2.mp4 Tell me about how you've been feeling? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_81_4.mp4 Mm, what's that like for you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_81_6.mp4 So you're feeling uncomfortable with changes in your body? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_81_8.mp4 Mm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_81_10.mp4 Why do you think it makes you so hesitant to call? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_81_12.mp4 What about it seems overwhelming? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_81_14.mp4 Mm. So some of your feelings, uh, of being overwhelmed or about the logistics of the appointment, and some of it is you just don't like medical appointments and medical people? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_81_16.mp4 How can I help you with these things? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_81_18.mp4 Sure, we can do that together. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_81_20.mp4 I can try. I can't guarantee because it depends on my schedule, but we can brainstorm about ideas on who can go with you to support you so you feel better about attending. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_82_0.mp4 Would you like to answer some questions and kind of do a self-evaluation about how you're feeling around alcohol and the contraception? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_82_2.mp4 Okay. So we're working on a 10 point of scale 1 to 10, 1 being not important, 10 being very important. One being not confident, one being very confident. So on a scale of 1 to 10, which number best reflects how important it is to you to drink the-- what risk limits? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_82_4.mp4 You'd say an eight. Okay. And on a scale of 1 to 10, how confident are you at the present time that you can drink below risk levels? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_82_6.mp4 Amount of four. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_82_8.mp4 Okay. And so let's look at those two. You're-you're thinking it's pretty important, but your confidence is down here, uh, a four, but it's not a one. What makes you confident that you can drink below risk levels and you remember what those are? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_82_10.mp4 Okay. So that gives you a good reason not to drink. Okay. Anything else? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_82_12.mp4 So you have a support group that gives you the ability to have fun and still drink below risk levels? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_82_14.mp4 Okay. Anything else? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_82_16.mp4 Now let's look at your self-evaluation of your birth control. So now we're doing the risk of pregnancy and the use of birth control. So on a scale of 1 to 10, how important is it to you to use effective birth control every time you have sex to keep from getting pregnant? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_82_18.mp4 An eight. Okay. And on a scale of 1 to 10, how confident are you at the present time that you- that you can use effective birth control? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_82_20.mp4 Every time. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_82_22.mp4 Correctly as it's prescribed. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_82_24.mp4 Probably a six. Okay. So you're pretty confident that you can do it. And why are you a six and not a two or three? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_82_26.mp4 Okay. So it's kind of linked to your drinking, the fact that, um, that you can-- if you can take care of that drinking, you can take care of the- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_82_28.mp4 -birth control issue and this importance comes down as your reason why you're not down here. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_82_30.mp4 Very good. So it looks like, um, you're using a good method of birth control, you're just not able to use it effectively. And you've linked it back here to the drinking. So would you like to develop a plan around your alcohol use at this-- today? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_82_32.mp4 Yes. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_82_34.mp4 Okay. And if you need more information, we can get that for you. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_82_36.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_0.mp4 Hello, Rick. Welcome. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_2.mp4 Good to see you here. I see on your file that you're, uh, [unintelligible 00:01:18]. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_4.mp4 What part of the [unintelligible 00:01:22] are you from? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_6.mp4 Oh, okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_8.mp4 Right down the bottom? Down Bluff? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_10.mp4 Oh, are they? So you were born down there and- question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_12.mp4 -raised down there? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_14.mp4 Country boy. Been up in Christchurch how long? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_16.mp4 Oh, so you've been here a while? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_18.mp4 Oh good. You got family out here? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_20.mp4 Just your own whānau here. [unintelligible 00:01:51]. Well, Rick, I'm sort of, uh, interested in that, you know, you and I are gonna been doing some work together for a while. I'm sort of wondering what sort of thoughts you'd be having on your way here today. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_22.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_24.mp4 Okay. I see you've had a bit of experience with, uh, coming to prevention services. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_26.mp4 What's that been like for you in the past? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_28.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_30.mp4 Okay. Similar sort of offending in the past that's brought you back again this time? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_32.mp4 One of the, um, things that I've learned over the years, Rick, is that a lot of guys get to the doors out there and don't come inside and, um, you've come inside. What does that tell me about you? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_34.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_36.mp4 So is that different from when you've come in here before? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_38.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_40.mp4 Yeah. So they're really important to you? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_42.mp4 Yeah. And do you have your kids with you full-time or- question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_44.mp4 Okay. And what's it like for you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_46.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_48.mp4 What would you really like to happen in terms of, uh, you and your children? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_50.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_52.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_54.mp4 So coming along to see me and you and I are doing some work together, then you're going on to do a program, how important is that gonna be for you and your children? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_56.mp4 Mm-hmm. If I was to put it on a scale of say 1 to 100, 1 being not really important, 100 being really, really important, whereabouts on that scale would you you be? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_58.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_60.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_62.mp4 Yeah. What do you think it'd be like for your kids if they were sitting here now and they heard you say that this was really, really important to you and to them? That you gave this program 100%. Well, then what might that be like for them to hear that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_64.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_66.mp4 Good. Anybody else in your family that would be really proud of-- that you're taking these steps? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_68.mp4 Yeah. Your is mum still down south? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_70.mp4 Yeah. Does she know that you're here today? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_72.mp4 So how might it be for her if she knew that you're talking like this today? That-- 'Cause it sounds to me like you're really serious this time making some changes. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_74.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_76.mp4 So do you think doing this program and completing this program this time would be a good place to start? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_78.mp4 Yeah. So you and I are going to be doing a little bit of work together then. And, um, and sometimes it-it can get quite tough. And I'm just wondering before we go any further, when the going gets tough, a lot of guys bail out. I'm just wondering are you one of those guys? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_80.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_82.mp4 Good. One of the other things we're really conscious of with is, um, sometimes we do this work in isolation from others. And one of the things we want to ask people is about who they're going to be accountable to. I'm thinking like with your children, uh, your mom and other people that maybe you're interacting with. Who-who else in your life do you think would be supportive of you, and who would you need to let them know that you're actually going through this sort of program? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_84.mp4 What was-- what was your partner's name? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_86.mp4 Kristy. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_88.mp4 Right. In terms of your employer, would they be supportive? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_90.mp4 Okay. What do you think it might be like for you to explore that with them? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_92.mp4 Any other family members that, uh, live close that, uh, you think would be supportive? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_94.mp4 Okay. The reason why I'm asking this, Rick, is just, um, you know, part of, um, uh, being responsible is turning up and doing the program. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_96.mp4 The other aspect of that is kind of like who we're going to be accountable to while we're doing the program. So one of the- one of the challenges, one of the riddle I'm going to put in front of you is like who else can we get involved to support you while you're going through this? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_98.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_100.mp4 Okay. So as we're gonna do this work together and go through this, uh, this program, one of the things we-we don't want to do is fall into the same trough we did last time. So I-I just want to leave that with you to think about next time we come together. There may be two or three other people that you think of that can be really supportive, that we-we need to let know that you're [unintelligible 00:10:50] each gonna make these changes and this time, you're serious about it. So let your mother and, uh, and, um, your partner, how might that happen? How does that sound to you? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_102.mp4 Rick, I get a sense that you're kind of padding this walk a little bit on your own at the moment. Would that be true? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_104.mp4 Your family is down south. I mean,who-who-who else do you think would be really interested in sup-supporting you, rowing with you if you like on this journey? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_106.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_108.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_110.mp4 Yeah. How would it be for your mum, do you think, if you were to tell her that this is something that you're-- is really important for you and that you know that this time you really need to do this for her and for the family? What-what might that be like for her to hear? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_112.mp4 Yeah. All right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_114.mp4 Brothers and sisters, that, uh, would also be very supportive if you were to make this journey? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_116.mp4 Good. So how would you go about getting them to support you, to come on board, and be accountable to doing this work together? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_118.mp4 And, um, I’m just trying to imagine what do you think your mom would want to say to you if she was sitting here with us now and she heard you talking about this? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_120.mp4 Mm. What do you think she might want for you, like upon her for your children? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_122.mp4 I’m getting a strong sense that's what you want as well. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_124.mp4 So, in terms of having the confidence to do this with the support of your whānau and ours, where do you think your confidence level might be now? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_83_126.mp4 That's a huge move up the scale, isn't it? So getting your family on board, getting your whānau on board is going to be really important for us. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_0.mp4 Hi Billy. How are you doing? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_2.mp4 Yeah. Hey, it's good to see you here and good to see you here on time. Yeah, it's really good to see a good start to the-- to your probation time with us here is to see you being here on time. So how did you get here today? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_4.mp4 Yeah, caught the bus to-to that-- to the stop outside the office? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_6.mp4 Yeah, okay. So I'm noticing that this isn't the first time that you've been to see someone at probation and it's not your first, um, community sentence. So I was wondering when you're sitting on the bus thinking about coming here, what was- what was going through your head about being here? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_8.mp4 "Just was feeling like, ""Ugh, it's gonna be a waste of my time coming here."" " reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_10.mp4 Mmh. So how come you thought it was going to be a waste of your time? What was it based on? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_12.mp4 Yeah, didn't- didn't work out very well. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_14.mp4 Okay. So you're hoping that it was gonna help you and it didn't. That was-- ended up feeling like a waste of your time. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_16.mp4 Mm. So it sounds you're worried that it's gonna be a waste of your time this time too. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_18.mp4 Mm, okay. So what sort of things do you think made it a waste of time last time? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_20.mp4 Okay, the probation officer we're talking about here? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_22.mp4 Mm. So it felt like she bossed you around, didn't really listen to you. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_24.mp4 Okay, so actually having someone listen to you and hear about what you're saying is important to you? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_26.mp4 Mm. So what's it gonna be like do you think working with me 'cause I'm also a female probation officer? Um, I'm wondering what-what's it gonna be like do you think? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_28.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_30.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_32.mp4 Okay, and all of those things are true. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_34.mp4 You're right. I don't know what it's like to be you and what I'm getting a sense of is that it's actually important that the person sitting opposite you in this role needs to understand what it's like to be you. Is that right? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_36.mp4 Yeah, okay. So I guess the invitation for both of us really over the next few months of, um, on the sentence is for us to get an understanding about what it's like to be you. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_38.mp4 "Yeah, okay. So in terms of the things that have brought you here, in terms of the things that have got you into trouble and got you into offending, I'm wondering how interested you are in, um, really getting an understanding of it. So one or zero is like, ""Ugh, not interested at all."" " question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_40.mp4 "100 is like, ""I'm totally interested and-and getting it nailed and sorted and, you know, getting on the straight and narrow."" Where would you be on that scale? " question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_42.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_44.mp4 All right. So it's kind of silly stuff that's getting you into trouble. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_46.mp4 Is that what I'm hearing? Yeah. So in terms of dealing with it, where-where would you be, do you reckon? How interested would you be in dealing with that stuff? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_48.mp4 Okay, so you don't wanna be back here. You don't wanna be sitting here and- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_50.mp4 -to talk to a probation officer again. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_52.mp4 Okay. So where would you be do you think? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_54.mp4 "Zero being, ""Argh, not interested at all,"" 100 being totally into it. " therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_56.mp4 25, okay. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_58.mp4 So I know that you're kind of 25% interested- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_60.mp4 -and really thinking about what's got you into trouble and hence something about what gets you into trouble. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_62.mp4 You wanna stop getting into trouble. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_64.mp4 Mm, okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_66.mp4 Okay, so getting into trouble and, uh, getting caught and-and we see [unintelligible 00:05:36] does about luck and this time being unlucky. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_68.mp4 Yes, tell me a bit more about that, Billy? Kind of give me the [unintelligible 00:05:46] the cops have got it on for you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_70.mp4 Mm, so it feels like you always seemed singled out and, um, end up being unlucky. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_72.mp4 Okay, so you get singled out and that's what, um, means that you end up getting-- having to go to court and get sentenced and end on probation. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_74.mp4 "Yeah. So I'm wondering, um, if there are things that you think, ""Well, I can see that that's got me into trouble,"" and, you know, kind of cops aside, things that might have got you into-into trouble. " other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_76.mp4 "Mm-hmm, okay. So some stuff that you can think, ""Oh yeah, I had, you know, I did some stuff that yeah, got me into trouble."" " reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_78.mp4 "It wasn't perhaps about the police singling you out. So those little things, well, you think, ""Mm, yeah, maybe-maybe if I'd done something differently, I wouldn't have ended up in trouble."" How interested are you in thinking about those things and- " therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_80.mp4 -trying to get a handle on that. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_82.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_84.mp4 Okay, so you don't wanna end up kind of being in prison again 'cause you've done some time inside. Yeah, and you don't wanna end up going back to prison, yeah. So-so that's one thing about wanting to make a difference and the way things are at the moment, yeah. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_86.mp4 Cool. What else would, um, would help to kind of keep you out of trouble do you think? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_88.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_90.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_92.mp4 "So the things about that have got you into trouble in the past, um, how confident are you that, um, that you can do something to not keep going down the same path? Zero is like, ""I'm not confident at all that I can make any changes,"" and 100 is like, ""I'm so supremely confident."" Where would you be? " question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_94.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_96.mp4 All right, so if you were in a good job- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_98.mp4 -one with cars, one that- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_100.mp4 -you really liked, you feel that you would be pretty confident to deal with the stuff that gets you into trouble? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_102.mp4 Okay, so you don't have any cash and that's the stuff that causes you to do the small stuff- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_104.mp4 -and get you into trouble. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_106.mp4 Okay, so if you had a job, you feel pretty confident, but if you don't have a job, your confidence is much-is much lower, is that- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_108.mp4 -what I'm hearing? Yeah. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_110.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_112.mp4 Okay, so if you don't have a job you reckon, um, you'll probably gonna keep on offending. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_114.mp4 Okay, so part of this, what's going on is you also getting bored? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_116.mp4 Mmh. Yeah, say something more about that. It sounds really interesting about you knowing that you get bored really easily. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_118.mp4 Yeah, what-what makes you say that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_120.mp4 Okay, so you wanna kind of get some action, don't wanna sit around- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_122.mp4 -all the time. But one of the things I'm noticing, we've been going here for a wee while now talking and, uh, I haven't noticed any lack of attention. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_124.mp4 Okay, so we [unintelligible 00:09:47] something that interests you. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_126.mp4 Mmh, and when we might be talking about something that doesn't interest you, what would I notice? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_128.mp4 Okay. All right, so-so one of the challenges is for us to be talking about things that interest you. Yeah. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_130.mp4 Um, and also maybe get to the point where things are different in your life Where you're not getting into trouble and things feel a bit more sorted in your life. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_132.mp4 Hi, Billy, how are you doing? It's good to see you again. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_134.mp4 Yeah, how's things been? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_136.mp4 Okay. So you're keeping out of trouble. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_138.mp4 Yeah, so how'd you get here this time? Like 'cause other times you got the bus? What-what did you do this time? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_140.mp4 Oh yeah. Who's- who's Donna? You haven't mentioned Donna before. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_142.mp4 Oh okay. Tell us something about Donna. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_144.mp4 Hmm, you get along with her really well. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_146.mp4 So what's special about Donna? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_148.mp4 Oh okay. So someone who's both a friend and a girlfriend? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_150.mp4 Hmm, yeah. It's really special when you find someone who can be both a friend and girlfriend, eh. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_152.mp4 Yeah. You were made to say you're lucky. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_154.mp4 Hmm. Okay, so she dropped you off here today. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_158.mp4 She doesn't want to get you in trouble and I heard you say earlier on that you've been keeping out of trouble. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_160.mp4 So what sort of things have you been doing together? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_162.mp4 Okay. Gives you something to do. So we talked like back on that first time we met about how you reckon you've got a short attention span and like things to like to be doing things. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_164.mp4 So you're watching movies with her, you're hanging out? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_166.mp4 Yeah, and keeping-keeping out of trouble. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_168.mp4 Okay, what's the mostly? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_170.mp4 Mm-hmm. So when you say mostly, it kind of leaves a little bit of room for there to be some trouble. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_172.mp4 Am I picking that up? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_174.mp4 Okay, so she's- she's got a job. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_176.mp4 Yeah, what does she do? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_178.mp4 Mm-hmm. So kind of 9:00 to 5:00 sort of job. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_180.mp4 All right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_182.mp4 Mm-hmm. So you two get to spend Friday together and the weekend. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_184.mp4 Mm-hmm. Okay, so when she's at work, what happens then? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_186.mp4 Mm-hmm. So what sort of mischief are we talking about here, Billy? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_188.mp4 Mm-hmm. Okay, so you're kind of skating on the edges of getting in trouble again. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_190.mp4 Mm-hmm. Okay. So I'm wondering how much of what you do on Fridays you tell Donna. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_192.mp4 Well, if we're talking about this idea about kind of scaling around the edges of trouble again,- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_194.mp4 - I'm wondering if she knows that. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_196.mp4 So what do you reckon would happen if she knew? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_198.mp4 She'd tell you off. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_202.mp4 Well, what-what are her hopes for you, Billy? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_204.mp4 Mm-hmm. Yeah. So she wants you to be happy. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_206.mp4 So what would- what would like a really happy life for Billy look like? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_208.mp4 Mm-hmm. A nice car, a nice house. Mm-hmm, what else? What must be a happy life for Billy? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_210.mp4 Mm-hmm, okay. So in five years' time, it's fast forward to the future. Five years time, how would you like it to be? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_212.mp4 Okay. So, you'd be with Donna, and you'd have a house, and you settle down, maybe have some kids? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_214.mp4 Yes? So, it sounds like having children is something you've thought about? Um. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_216.mp4 Mm-hmm. She'd be a good mum? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_218.mp4 Yeah? What sort of dad do you reckon you'd be? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_220.mp4 Mm-hmm. Yeah? other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_222.mp4 What would be special about you as a dad? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_224.mp4 You wouldn't boss them around? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_226.mp4 Mm-hmm. That's something- that's something that's come up before with-with-- when we've been talking about that idea about not liking being bossed around. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_228.mp4 What's that about, Billy? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_230.mp4 Okay, I see. You wanna be a different sort of dad- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_232.mp4 -to-to the dad that you had? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_84_234.mp4 Yeah. Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_0.mp4 So, we were, um- we were just talking a little bit about sustained talk, which most people call denial. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_2.mp4 You're a lucky man. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_4.mp4 "So, um, it also, um-- Anyway, it's-it's when people are just saying, ""Um, you know, this is why I don't wanna change. You know, I'm happy the way that I am. You know, it's, you know, um, God made it that marijuana stuff,"" you know, things like that. So- " therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_6.mp4 -so, you're gonna, um, play with me a little bit and, um- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_8.mp4 -and you're gonna— therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_10.mp4 Right. So, you're-you're a, um-um, a patient who's been diagnosed with some s- maybe schizophrenia, bipolar. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_12.mp4 Okay, mild schizophrenia is fine. Good. Okay, so- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_14.mp4 -just a touch. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_16.mp4 Okay. [laughs] And-and-and, uh, if you wanted to maybe even, you know, a little drinking and weed in there 'cause it's also very kind. [crosstalk] other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_18.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_20.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_22.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_24.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_26.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_28.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_30.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_32.mp4 Well, that is a bummer. I mean— reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_34.mp4 So you said the-the first one you said, you don't like the way it makes you feel? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_36.mp4 So, tell me a little bit about what you don't like about- what you've noticed about it? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_38.mp4 Very dull. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_40.mp4 Very dull. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_42.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_44.mp4 Mm. So, and then you said, you don't like how it makes you act, um, if you can tell me a little bit about that. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_46.mp4 It's really, your timing is [unintelligible 00:03:13] reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_48.mp4 So you feel slow. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_50.mp4 So, it's, you know, thinking as quickly and responding as quickly and-and things like that-- [crosstalk] reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_52.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_54.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_56.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_58.mp4 To tell you, it sounds terrible, actually. Yeah. So, that that-that really-- And then- and then, to top it all off, literally, I mean, no sex drive. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_60.mp4 And-and your wife, what does she have to say about that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_62.mp4 Yeah. Where's Scott? Where did- where did Scott go? That feisty, spirited guy, where- where'd he go? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_64.mp4 With the libido out the door. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_66.mp4 Oh, okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_68.mp4 I didn't even know they had a spice channel. [chuckles] other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_70.mp4 "So they-- So, um, before you started taking the medication, though, when she was, you know, um-- Even though now she's like, ""Where is my old Scott,"" and stuff, well, were there any times when she wanted you to go on the medication? And, if so, what-what prompted those? " question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_72.mp4 You were right. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_74.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_76.mp4 Might get you into trouble [unintelligible 00:05:06] reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_78.mp4 Okay. What else? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_80.mp4 What do you think about the hospital? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_82.mp4 No. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_84.mp4 So, you'd really like to stay out of that hospital? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_86.mp4 I agree with you, I really do. So-- And I- and I think that a lot of times, um, the medications, they do have a lot of side effects, and I completely understand why people don't wanna take them- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_88.mp4 Yet, at the same time, I know running around and getting in trouble for being naked or having to go to the hospital, not such a good thing either. Um, I'm wondering if, um- if I could run some ideas by you that some other patients of mine have tried? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_90.mp4 Okay, thanks. Um, we could if you're-- 'Cause, as you can tell, this is really more of an art than a science, um, try some other medications and see how you do on them, and perhaps, you won't have these side effects. And, um, it-it really is just a matter of kind of experimenting around to get, uh, to see if we can get to a point that at least you're not having these really bad things happen of getting into the hospital and getting arrested and stuff versus feeling more like that-that spirited Scott that, you know, watches Spice channel, you know, I mean-- Because I can tell the spirit of Scott is, uh, a hoot. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_92.mp4 Well, you know, uh, Scott, well, tell me a little bit since you brought that up. Yeah, obviously, drink and tell me a little bit about your [unintelligible 00:07:35] question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_94.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_96.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_98.mp4 How-how often do you do that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_100.mp4 Maybe every other day? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_102.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_104.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_106.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_108.mp4 How would you know if it was a problem? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_110.mp4 So, if you got a DUI, you would really know. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_112.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_114.mp4 Well, you know, what, I-- There are a lot of people that wouldn't disagree with you on that exactly. You know, so, um, uh, but I know that they-they were never quite sure how they were all interacting all together. Like the, um- the weed kind of tends to make people a little paranoid anyway. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_116.mp4 Yeah. Why, what happens if you take a little too much of it? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_118.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_120.mp4 Yeah. And you don't like that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_122.mp4 Running around naked. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_124.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_126.mp4 You must like that statue. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_85_128.mp4 So, if-if-if we could maybe find a medication that didn't give you as bad side effects, perhaps you might not have to drink as much or at all or smoke a little weed to take the edge off. I mean, who knows? [unintelligible 00:09:55] reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_86_1.mp4 You're hopeless about what's going on. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_86_3.mp4 You seem at a loss of where to go from here. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_86_5.mp4 You feel like people aren't willing to help. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_86_7.mp4 You feel alone. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_86_9.mp4 You realize it's something you shouldn't have done. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_86_11.mp4 You're feeling regretful. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_86_13.mp4 Uh, it's something that just happened. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_86_15.mp4 You're nervous that you've lost control of your behaviors. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_86_17.mp4 You've really had a good week. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_86_19.mp4 You seem excited about that. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_86_21.mp4 You definitely know how to make good decisions. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_86_23.mp4 You know that, um, positive peer influences have been helpful for you. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_86_25.mp4 You feel like you're letting your family down. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_86_27.mp4 You feel like you've been a disappointment for them. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_86_29.mp4 This is not what you've envisioned. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_86_31.mp4 You're willing to take steps to improve on that. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_86_33.mp4 You don't want to be here. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_86_35.mp4 You seem motivated to follow the rules. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_86_37.mp4 It's something that's always on your mind. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_86_39.mp4 It takes a lot of, um, strength to still not smoke, even though you're still craving. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_87_0.mp4 So let me tell you what I normally do in this, um, this interview, and we-we'll talk for up to maybe 20 minutes or so. Normally what I do is just give some feedback from all of those questionnaires that you answered last week- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_87_2.mp4 -and then we just talk together about that. So, um, but I always like to just start with wherever you would like to start as well. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_87_4.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_87_6.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_87_8.mp4 Hm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_87_10.mp4 You were pretty shocked at what you learned about your patterns. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_87_12.mp4 Hm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_87_14.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_87_16.mp4 Yeah, this information has opened your eyes in some ways and as you talked to your roommate about it, she was even shocked to know that you were drinking as much as you- as you realized when you did the questionnaire. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_87_18.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_87_20.mp4 Yeah, the fact that your drinking stands out from others is clearly not something you had ever really taken into consideration before? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_87_22.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_87_24.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_88_1.mp4 So, um, everyone that comes on the South Whisky program, we'd like them to pick at least three goals that they'd like to work on in the next 30 days. Because what we will do is we will monitor you and we'll check in 30 days to see how you're going with your goals. So with that being said, we want you to pick something that is relevant for you, something that you're willing to work on. So with that being said, is there anything that you would like to change your work on either at home or school, um, [unintelligible 00:00:30]? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_88_3.mp4 Okay, so for you getting on time for first hour is something you'd like to work on the next 30 days? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_88_5.mp4 Okay. What a great goal. So why do you want to make this goal for yourself? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_88_7.mp4 And who are these people? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_88_9.mp4 So that's something you definitely wanna avoid? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_88_11.mp4 Okay. So getting to school for your first hour is something that you're going to work on as your goal. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_88_13.mp4 So what are some specific steps you would need to take to get to school on time for first hour? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_88_15.mp4 Okay, so it's not just one major thing? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_88_17.mp4 So knowing that a couple of things can really get in your way, what do you think would work best for you to get to school on time? What do you know you need to do? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_88_19.mp4 What time would you need to get up then? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_88_21.mp4 So you're still kind of unsure if this is something that you could do yet you're saying you really wanna do it because you don't wanna go back for sanctions. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_88_23.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_88_25.mp4 Okay, so you're willing to at least attempt it? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_88_27.mp4 So what time would you have to go to bed at night to make sure you're up by 6:15? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_88_29.mp4 Okay. Okay, so you're willing to go to bed at 11:00 and then you're going to set your alarm for 6:15 the next morning? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_88_31.mp4 When would be a great day for you to start this? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_88_33.mp4 Okay, so if I would write down here, um, what do you think- what would you want me to write? Tomorrow or the next day? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_88_35.mp4 Tomorrow. Okay, great. So who would be able to help you get to bed on time and make sure you're up on time by 6:15? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_88_37.mp4 Your mom. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_88_39.mp4 Okay. Anything that your mom could do to help you with that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_88_41.mp4 "So it's almost like you want your mom to make it say that this is for you. It's not because your mom's making you get up like you want your mom to remind you, ""Hey, remember, this is something that you want for yourself is to be in time for first-hour class"". " reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_88_43.mp4 Great. What could maybe get in the way of you not getting up by 6:15? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_88_45.mp4 Not going to bed on time. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_88_47.mp4 Okay. So if you are feeling tempted to stay up later- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_88_49.mp4 - how could you respond instead? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_88_51.mp4 Okay, so a phone is a distraction for you. So keeping your phone away- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_88_53.mp4 - and even actually turning the lights off and making sure that it's dark? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_88_55.mp4 Kind of a reminder it's time to go to bed. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_88_57.mp4 And-and also the support of your mom too. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_88_59.mp4 Great. So how will you know that you-your plan is working? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_88_61.mp4 So for you being in your class, when that bell rings, then you know, this is the goal. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_88_63.mp4 So what I've been hearing so far- what again, what a great goal. You've already had some insight of how to do this. So for you, it's really important that you're getting to your first hour because you don't want to go back to sanction days. You don't having- like having all these extra people checking up on you and all those things.You've already have a plan of going to bed by 11:00, turning off the lights, putting your cell phone away. Even the support of your mom is really gonna be helpful for you, um, getting up at 6:15 in the morning with that alarm. I know that seems really early in the morning, but you seem willing to do it. And if you're not able to do it, your mom's gonna help you out as well. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_88_65.mp4 What a great plan and you said you're going to start tomorrow. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_88_67.mp4 Great. Well, thank you. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_0.mp4 Hi, Jean. I'm Dr. Selby. Nice to meet you. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_2.mp4 How can I help you today? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_4.mp4 Yes. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_6.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_8.mp4 It's time to do something, okay. So you've been diagnosed by- question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_10.mp4 A respirologist diagnosed that, and-and how are you feeling right now? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_12.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_14.mp4 All right. So it sounds like you've been smoking for such a long time and then this diagnosis was given to you, uh, and now that's really causing you to be afraid and frightened. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_16.mp4 Okay, okay. Now, have you thought about when you wanted to quit by? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_18.mp4 Okay. So what I'm hearing you say is that, although you want to quit smoking in the next six months, you're feeling a bit, um, under-confident that you'll actually be able to do this and you're-you're worried about failing. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_20.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_22.mp4 Right. So you've been able to quit smoking, but only when you were in the hospital. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_24.mp4 Okay. Let me just step back a little bit and ask you a question so that I can better understand where the difficulty that you're having with is. Uh, could you tell me what is good about smoking for you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_26.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_28.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_30.mp4 Sure. So, Jean, I want to make sure that I've understood what you've told me of what you find good about smoking. So it helps you calm down. It gives you something to do. It's been part of your image. You know, you feel sophisticated. You feel like a movie style. In fact, the way you talk about it, it seems like that's what it makes you feel like. Is that right? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_32.mp4 Okay. Is there anything I missed? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_34.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_36.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_38.mp4 Sure. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_40.mp4 So it's hard for you to quit smoking when everybody else around you is smoking. And it's so easy to go out and take a break and have a cigarette. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_42.mp4 You've told me what is good about smoking for you. Uh, can you tell me what is not so good about smoking for you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_44.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_46.mp4 Is there anything else that's not good about smoking for you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_48.mp4 Okay. So let me make sure I've understood this piece as well. So the not good things or the not so good things about smoking for you are the effects on your health, effects on your physical appearance and how you'll look and-and-and the amount of investment that you're making in makeup and getting your nails done, et cetera. And then the cost of smoking. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_50.mp4 So-so let me ask you this, given everything going on in your life right now on a scale of 1 to 10, where 10 is the most important thing to do, and 1 would be the least important thing to do, how important is it for you to quit smoking? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_52.mp4 Definitely most important. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_54.mp4 Let me ask another question and follow up to that. Again, given everything going on, where 10 is the most confident you've ever felt about anything and 1 is the least confident, how confident are you that you will be able to quit? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_56.mp4 35-40%. Okay. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_58.mp4 Okay. Now, help me understand why you said 40 and not something like 10 or zero because you mentioned that you don't even want to quit. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_60.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_62.mp4 Okay. So you said 30 to 40%. What would it take to build that confidence to about 45%? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_64.mp4 So if you got help, that would help you say that you went from 40% to 45%. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_66.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_68.mp4 Okay. So Jean, I really want to congratulate you on taking this very important first step towards addressing this problem that you've had for such a long time, but as the first small step, I wonder whether you'd be open to actually just monitoring your smoking for the next week. And the reason why I say that- because as you were mentioning to me, smoking is so automatic for you that sometimes writing it down helps make every cigarette a conscious act. And I noticed that you were saying to me, you feel a loss of control over these cigarettes. And sometimes just being mindful and writing something down will help you get some control over what you're doing. And that's often the first small step. What are your thoughts about that? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_70.mp4 That's correct. And writing it down helps that process. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_72.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_74.mp4 Okay. And I can give you a little card that can help you keep track of it. And if you can bring that back to the next appointment, it could be something we could discuss. Okay. Anything else? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_76.mp4 Excellent. Well, thank you so much for coming in today. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_91_78.mp4 You're welcome. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_93_0.mp4 So there are a lot of different directions that we could take. Um, you've mentioned wanting to make changes in your physical activity. You've mentioned wanting to make changes in your eating habits and also just wanting more body confidence. Um, what- what's on your mind is as far as a- as a change topic for the rest of our session today? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_93_2.mp4 Yeah. Okay. So physical activity is feeling like the easiest change to look at first. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_93_4.mp4 Great. So tell me a little bit more about your motivators for getting started in being more physically active. I know you shared energy levels and I know you've shared, um, that you'd like to see a boost in your mood and feeling less irritable and stressed. Any other benefits that really make you wanna make this change right now? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_93_6.mp4 Yeah. So you're wanting to feel stronger so that you can open jars and other things and- and also just have a better sense of confidence. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_93_8.mp4 Great. So on a scale from zero to 10, zero being not at all ready to make a change in the area of physical activity, and 10 being let's- let's do this. I'm excited. I'm ready. Um, where- where do you fall on that scale? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_93_10.mp4 Okay. So you're- you're feeling fairly motivated. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_93_12.mp4 Uh, why didn't you pick a six? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_93_14.mp4 Okay. You're noticing there- there are too many great benefits to being physically active and, um, today you've mentioned energy, mood, strength and body confidence. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_93_16.mp4 Am I missing anything else? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_93_18.mp4 Okay. Those are the big ones for you. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_93_20.mp4 Fantastic. Well, um, now we can start looking at if you're interested in how that might look- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_93_22.mp4 - and- and what activities you might end up, um, choosing. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_93_24.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_94_0.mp4 Good, so, um, we're here today to talk just, uh, about whatever it is you'd like to talk about it. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_94_2.mp4 Okay, so, um, there would be, so what you're, what you're attempting to do is, um, well-- Tell me, I guess, uh, tell me a little bit more about it so I understand it a little bit more. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_94_4.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_94_6.mp4 So that's a really kind thing of you to do to take someone into your home like that when they need help like that. And, um, but right now, you're thinking that, uh, time is up you'd like to get this person, you know, you're-you're-you're ready to have him or her move out and have your place back to yourself. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_94_8.mp4 Mm-hmm. And what would, uh, what would help you get to the point of actually, um, booting them out? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_94_10.mp4 Mm-hmm. So you kind of feel two ways about it. You-you'd like to, um, you feel like at some level that the time is up for that person to go, and on the other hand, there's a certain amount of security in having him in the house and in knowing he's around. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_94_12.mp4 But you're not quite ready if you wanna sing that song. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_94_14.mp4 I thought you did a pretty nice job singing there right there, it's scary to be quite honest with you and I appreciate, I also appreciate your sense of humor in-in doing that. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_94_16.mp4 That really helps you get through things is to be able to laugh about it. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_94_18.mp4 Your new career. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_94_20.mp4 So, um, what are the uh, uh, what would be the benefits to you right now to having him out of the house? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_94_22.mp4 Tell me a bit more about that. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_94_26.mp4 Uh-huh. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_94_28.mp4 Cause you wanna do the right thing because you're- because you're a good person and that's a- that's a really important value to you is that you- is that you help people out. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_94_30.mp4 But you've done your duty. Duty is done. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_94_32.mp4 And so, what have you done in order to start getting them to Hit The Road, Jack? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_94_34.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_94_36.mp4 So, uh, you were telling me earlier though that you've talked to some other people and he has some options about some other places to go to. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_94_38.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_94_40.mp4 So, you might have to literally like pack his bags and help them get to those places, um. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_94_42.mp4 Okay. Are you-- This is something you've done before. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_94_44.mp4 So whe-when-when are you gonna do it? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_94_46.mp4 Mm-hmm, Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_94_48.mp4 And it's kind of scary. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_94_50.mp4 And he's that extra trunk. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_94_52.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_94_54.mp4 Okay. All right. So, it sounds like you-you've actually worked this out until be out within a couple of days. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_94_56.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_94_58.mp4 Okay. Well, I have a funny feeling your plans will prevail. [laughter] other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_94_60.mp4 Well, thanks for-for talking and playing with our little things here. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_95_0.mp4 Right. Hi, Ruth, thank you for coming today. How are you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_95_2.mp4 Well, Ruth, it sounds like you're very frustrated first of all. And you're saying that you're just tired. You've lost all your willpower. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_95_4.mp4 You don't want to continue. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_95_6.mp4 So you feel really, really like you've had it up to here. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_95_8.mp4 Yeah. You're-you're tired. You're stressed. You feel so sad to the point that you're hurting yourself physically so that you can feel something other than what you're feeling right now. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_95_10.mp4 So you were in a lot of pain? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_95_12.mp4 I'm sorry about that. It must be very, very frustrating to feel all that pain and not be able to do anything about it. And it seems like the only thing that you can do right now is to cry. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_95_14.mp4 It's okay, Ruth. I understand. Pain inside. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_95_16.mp4 So your mom doesn't understand you and you don't have a dad, that's around? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_95_18.mp4 So you feel like your hands are tied, you feel like you're a burden to mom. She's a single parent. She works a lot. You have all of these problems in your life. And it sounds to me like you feel like you're just adding more problems to her. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_95_20.mp4 And if you're not alive, that's gonna solve the issue for her. She'll do better. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_95_22.mp4 How is she gonna be better off without you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_95_24.mp4 And how are you a burden now? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_95_26.mp4 And how do you help her now? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_95_28.mp4 Okay. So then even by you coming here today, Ruth, and talking to me and opening up and telling me that you don't feel like you want to continue moving in and telling me and-and confiding in me that, you know, you hurt yourself and all this pain that you feel, that is you trying to help yourself out in one way or another. And that shows that you care. And even more, it shows that you care about your mom and that, in the end, it doesn't sound like you wanna leave her alone because you're still worried about ot-you're still worried about all the burdens on her that you're even thinking of removing yourselves to make her life easier. That shows me that you care about her so, so much, but right now the immediate solution that you have in your mind, it seems like it's-it's- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_95_30.mp4 -How could it be the right one? Ending your life hurting yourself when it's just you and your mom. And you just said, she's a single parent. She doesn't have a husband, you don't have a dad. It's just the two of you. So how could it be the right choice? But I understand your pain and I know where you're coming from. And I know that the release that you feel physically is something that helps you in the moment. Are there other things that we can help you find to start replacing, um, that behavior? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_95_32.mp4 You're not sure. So you have a lot of on your mind right now. You just opened up to me. You told me that you've been cutting, that you've also been thinking about hurting yourself, killing yourself, not being here. Short-term, the cutting is helping you. You feel like a burden to mom, that stresses you out. That makes you sad. You see how much she struggles, but also on the same hand, we see how much you've been trying and how much you've been trying to help out by trying to go to school. We know your attendance is good. You go most of the time, you know, you're trying to keep up your grades.You have a C average, even having A in math, which we know was the lowest grade you had all semester. So all of those things shows how much effort you've put in and we see that effort. So you've been doing what you can and it's normal to feel like sometimes it's not enough. But that's-that's what we're here for so that you can tell us those things and we can help you. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_95_34.mp4 Oh, thank you, Ruth. Thank you for coming today. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_0.mp4 Thank you for coming in today, Katie. I'm looking forward to getting to know you, and maybe just wanna start off with just sharing a little bit about you and what brought you in today? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_2.mp4 So you're following through on meeting with me today and you mentioned he has some concerns. Can you tell me a little bit about that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_4.mp4 Okay. And I'm wondering if you have any concerns about that. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_6.mp4 No. Okay. So that's- that's not been an issue for you. Uh, it is an issue for him and not for you at this point. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_8.mp4 Okay. So what about maybe sharing a little bit about your alcohol intake and maybe a little bit about what your- what your life's like a little bit for me today? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_10.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_12.mp4 So it was kind of been a part of your culture a little bit, and you know, just find alcohol, maybe takes the edge off a little bit and- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_14.mp4 Okay. So you don't feel very comfortable with somebody telling you what you should be consuming, what kind of alcohol, and how much alcohol you should be consuming. And, um, it sounds like you've been getting some mixed messages, your doctor's saying there's no safe amount of alcohol you can drink, and asked you to come and see me. And then also, you've been checking- sounds like you've been checking things out a little bit. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_16.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_18.mp4 So you know yourself best and you wanna be sort of the boss of your body and you don't want somebody else telling you what- what's okay and what's not okay. And it seems like you're not maybe too concerned right now about your substance use. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_20.mp4 "Okay. And I'm wondering if that concern is coming from, ""It's been okay. I've got these messages from friends."" " reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_22.mp4 """Um, media has said it's okay to drink during alcohol. And so that concern, um, just sort of, I don't have it and, and maybe the doctor might be wrong."" " reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_24.mp4 You're not sure if he's sort of playing things up a little bit there? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_26.mp4 It might be a bit extreme to- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_28.mp4 -to quit drinking. Um, I'm just wondering, have you, um, would you be open maybe to just kind of taking a look at what Canada's guidelines say about drinking? Um, is that something you'd be open to? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_30.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_32.mp4 What if- uh, can I show you a brochure about that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_34.mp4 Yeah? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_36.mp4 Well, if we take a look at the low-risk-alcohol drinking guidelines, what it says is for women, um, the safe limits are 10 drinks a week for women and 2 drinks a day. And that's if a woman isn't pregnant. And when it says in the guidelines, as far as drinking, uh, throughout pregnancy, there is no safe amount to drink during pregnancy. So really zero alcohol is, um, the woman should not be drinking any at all. And I'm just wondering what-what are your thoughts on that? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_38.mp4 So when you see it here in kind of black and white, you're not sure if this is, uh, you know, enough- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_40.mp4 -to con- sort of convince you that-that it might be dangerous to be drinking through alcohol? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_42.mp4 So you feel like, um, what the doctor's saying and this brochure just kind of feels like, yeah, it's just kind of blowing things up out of proportion a little bit. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_44.mp4 And it sounds like you-you've got some solid information already that alcohol, you know, has been safe to-to have during pregnancy. Tell me about that information that you've-you've explored. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_46.mp4 Mm-hmm. You mentioned you looked up some articles and it sounds like evidence is really important to you. So, um, those articles, is that something recent? Um, you can tell me about that. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_48.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_50.mp4 So you felt like, um, the information that you found supports the values that you have of being able to be independent and autonomous, to be able to make your own choice and the information that your doctor shared or spoke to you about, and then this brochure kind of feels like that's challenging sort of your values. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_52.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_54.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_56.mp4 Wha-what's the big deal if you're drinking and— reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_58.mp4 Maybe we can kind of put that on the shelf for a moment, and we'll come back to it and sort of look at, you know, what is- what does the guidelines have to say about why. And, um, and-and I'm wondering if we can kind of just have a look for a moment at, um, your pregnancy, and is this something that you were- you were hoping to have a baby? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_60.mp4 That was something that you'd been planning? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_62.mp4 Okay. And I'm wondering as far as, um, bringing the baby into the world and, you know, your future as a parent, ho-how important is it to have a healthy baby to you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_64.mp4 Mm. What does being a good parent look like? Tell me more about that. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_66.mp4 Hmm. Kind of like protecting your baby and- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_68.mp4 -guiding your baby and- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_70.mp4 -you know, nurturing that baby is really important to you- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_72.mp4 -and raising your baby well? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_74.mp4 That's something that- that really matters to you and, um, I'm-I'm hearing you say that, you know, protecting your baby is important to you and at the same time, um, kind of clashes with some of the information that's in the brochure. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_76.mp4 What do you make about that- what do you think about that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_78.mp4 You wanna see it in black and white. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_80.mp4 You wanna know that it's the latest and the greatest kind of thing. Um, this is information that, uh, that I have been sharing with you earlier, this is the latest information evidence-based, um, on the latest research since 2011 and, um, a lot of research has gone into what is-what is okay for a mom to consume, like, alcohol. There's the-the evidence that we have, um, but in the end, you choose what's best for you and what's best for your baby. What are your- what are your thoughts on that? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_82.mp4 Mm-hmm, kind of feels like, you know, you were making some really good decisions about your baby. You've done research and you wanna be able to bring your baby up well and take care of your baby. And I-I can see that that's really important to you. I hear you saying that and it kind of feels like this information isn't kind of what you were expecting to hear. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_84.mp4 What would you feel like would be helpful as far as next steps, like when you think about maybe moving away from drinking alcohol throughout the rest of your pregnancy? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_86.mp4 Mm-hmm, that's some really significant steps you're talking about. You're talking about putting the alcohol away, that's huge. That's-that's really big steps. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_88.mp4 I really want to thank you for, you know, exploring this with me today, and I'm wondering if we can kind of continue this conversation again, and talk about those steps, and how it goes with talking to your partner about giving up drinking and, um, the- giving you a chance to do some more research and, you know, maybe looking through these brochures and kind of just coming back and sharing a little bit more about, you know, what you thought about the information and what feels right for you. Is that something you'd be open to? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_96_90.mp4 We definitely can cover that again on our next meeting. Thank you for coming to see me. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_0.mp4 Well, Mr. Smith, that's your medication sorted out. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_2.mp4 Blood pressure's a little on the high side. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_4.mp4 Okay. I wonder if I could raise the subject of your weight. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_6.mp4 I wondered if we could spend just a couple of minutes talking about your weight. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_8.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_10.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_12.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_14.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_16.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_18.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_20.mp4 Right, and you-- so you're busy enough, and— reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_22.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_24.mp4 Yeah, yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_26.mp4 And it wasn't essentially easy for you to make the time to come down, and you had to wait in the waiting room, and now I raised the subject of weight just when you're thinking of going. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_28.mp4 Yeah, yeah, yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_30.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_32.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_34.mp4 Right. And so it-it-it's been a bit of a rush for you coming in. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_36.mp4 And, I- I'm sorry about the wait in the waiting room. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_38.mp4 Yeah, yeah, that's, um, and that- that's not easy for you, because you- you'd like to go really soon, and here I am asking you to spend just a couple of minutes with me. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_40.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_44.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_46.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_48.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_50.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_52.mp4 Yeah. It counts. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_54.mp4 Yeah, exactly. Exactly. It's up to you, just a couple of minutes. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_56.mp4 I promise. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_58.mp4 I want- I wanted to simply ask you how you feel about it? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_60.mp4 Yep. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_62.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_64.mp4 Right. So you can see the links between your weight and your health, and you'd like things to be a bit better. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_66.mp4 You'd like to, if you could? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_68.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_70.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_72.mp4 Ready meals, and that sort of thing. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_74.mp4 Okay, yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_76.mp4 Let me see if I can summarize what you've said, um, and then we'll see what next. Um, you lead a busy life. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_78.mp4 Um, you run a business, and you've got a lot to do. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_80.mp4 Yeah. Um, you're- you're- you're aware of the- of the links between your health and your weight, and you are concerned, to some extent, about that, and ideally it sounds like you'd like to do something about it, it's just that your life is busy and rushed, and you tend to use convenience foods in order to get the work done. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_82.mp4 Yeah, yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_84.mp4 I get it. I get it. And so, if you could fit it in, you would like things to be different, but that's not so easy. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_86.mp4 Okay. Can I suggest that you come back and see me in a couple of weeks time just to chat about this? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_88.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_90.mp4 Right, right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_92.mp4 Exactly. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_94.mp4 Exactly. I'll tell you what might be a nice solution, is if you come down first appointment, and I give you an appointment at 8:30- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_96.mp4 - and then there'll be absolutely no waiting. And, the purpose of that- of that visit will be to have a look at how you really feel about how you could move forward, and somehow fit in a more healthier lifestyle into the busy work life that you've got. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_98.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_100.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_102.mp4 Good. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_104.mp4 Good. And see if you can fix it up, and also give some thought to what we've talked about. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_97_106.mp4 Good stuff. Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_0.mp4 Hi, Mike. I'm Kathy. Appreciate you coming in today. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_2.mp4 I'm sure there's so many other places you'd rather be than here today talking with me, but, um, you're here, and, um, thank you. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_4.mp4 Um, I wanted to ask you first how you're doing physically. Um, I wanna make sure you're okay, if you feel okay. And, um, 'cause your-your safety is of, uh, most importance. So, if I could just ask you a couple of questions- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_6.mp4 -surrounding that, will that be okay? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_8.mp4 -um, we-we're-- You're here probably because of your speeding ticket. That's what I gathered. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_10.mp4 Oh. Oh, okay. So, Um, around that, um, do you ever feel-- You feel bad or-or sick when you're-- Right now, is there something-- question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_12.mp4 Do you feel okay. Okay, good. I just wanted to make sure, um, uh, and, um, if the last time you-you drank was-- question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_14.mp4 Uh-huh, yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_16.mp4 Sure. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_18.mp4 Oh, okay. Well, I appreciate that. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_20.mp4 Um, and also, if there's any-any-any information that you need from me, please, um, feel free to ask. Um, that the reason that he asked you to come in was because of the blood alcohol level was 2.8. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_22.mp4 So, um, that was legally beyond the limit that you should be driving. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_24.mp4 Well, it's-it's high, uh, you know, they-- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_26.mp4 For driving. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_28.mp4 And so, um, the officer at the- at the scene, um, when you blew the 2.8, he-he did-- he-- There was a- there was a problem. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_30.mp4 Was he freaking out? Yeah-yeah. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_32.mp4 Right-right. So, um, I'll just ask you a couple of questions, um, if you don't mind about-about your drinking. And-and your-- So, um, you said the couple was two weeks ago was the last time you drank? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_34.mp4 Yeah. Okay. And, um, that night, what was it that you-you drank and, how much? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_36.mp4 Right. Yeah. Um, I was-- Maybe, you could tell me about how much you drank. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_38.mp4 Mm-hmm. Five, six drinks, like? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_40.mp4 Oh, okay. So, I guests maybe five or six. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_42.mp4 Um, yeah. And-and, w-what were the drinks, were? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_44.mp4 Hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_46.mp4 Oh, okay. So, um, you said that it was pretty much just five or six. Do you-- How often do you use that? And you said it's not a- question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_48.mp4 -not a normal occasion for you to drink that much? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_50.mp4 Right. Yeah. Um, so, you usually don't drink that much. Um, on an average, maybe a week, how much would you say you drink? Just-- question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_52.mp4 Uh-huh other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_54.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_56.mp4 Right. So, it doesn't get in the way of your- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_58.mp4 -every day. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_60.mp4 Right. Oh, that's good. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_62.mp4 So, um, looking back, Mike, uh, when was it that you started thinking that when you did use alcohol, um, most in your life? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_64.mp4 So, that is- that is a complete, uh-- A question that is even applicable? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_66.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_68.mp4 That's fine. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_70.mp4 That's fine. Okay. Um, so, what about the, uh- the first DUI, could you tell me a little bit about that? This was your second one? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_72.mp4 And so, that's sort of why I was asking about it earlier in your life if that was a-- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_74.mp4 It was those two times. Yeah. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_76.mp4 It sounds like bad luck. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_78.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_80.mp4 Oh, okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_82.mp4 But just that bad luck? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_84.mp4 Yeah. Is there alcohol with the- with-- Goes hand in hand with the bad luck or just-- question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_86.mp4 Yeah. Oh, okay. So-so, what about that? The-- Is there other incidences that you could think of that seems, uh, um, alcohol was there, and then your luck just sorta took a-a turn, or it was just those two times? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_88.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_90.mp4 Oh, good. Oh, good. And-and so, where do you usually, um, have your drinks? Is it at home or, uh, out-out for, uh- after work, social drinking? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_92.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_94.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_96.mp4 Would that help? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_98.mp4 So, it sounds like you've already been thinking about, uh, ways to-to get around safely. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_100.mp4 You have been giving this a lot of thought. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_102.mp4 Yeah, good. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_104.mp4 Trouble's not fun. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_106.mp4 No. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_108.mp4 Yeah. So, tell-tell me a little bit more about, um, when you fi-- If you'd find yourself, and then that-that thought comes about maybe doing something other than getting in the- in the car, does that come and go, or-or is it something that you think you-- Next time you might do? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_110.mp4 This, it-- What-what-what was different? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_112.mp4 Hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_114.mp4 Wow. You-you need your license- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_116.mp4 -to get around. You need your license for work. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_118.mp4 Oh. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_120.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_122.mp4 No. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_124.mp4 No, no. That's-- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_126.mp4 That would be entirely up to you, um, to-to have that. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_128.mp4 Oh, no. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_130.mp4 Well, you're here. And-and-and I have you give, uh-uh, credit for that. It took a lot to come in today and, um, when, um- when somebody is actually talking safety for themselves, which I-I hear you saying, um, calling a taxi or-or staying home. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_132.mp4 So, what does staying home look like for you? Is that something that-- You know, you-you talked about drinking at an event. Would staying home be-- question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_134.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_136.mp4 That would work for you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_138.mp4 Yeah, yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_140.mp4 Uh, so, uh, would people come and drink at your house, and then they would be fine with that? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_142.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_144.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_146.mp4 So, an event at your house. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_148.mp4 Yeah, good. That sounds good. Mike, has there even been, if any, um, a time in your life when you've thought about, um, not drinking at all? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_150.mp4 Right. Six months. That's a long time. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_152.mp4 What were those six months like for you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_154.mp4 Friends? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_156.mp4 Whi-which? If you don't mind me asking, which friends were those? I don't mean to get too personal, but, the friends that normally drank with you or just your- question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_158.mp4 -social circles. Okay. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_160.mp4 Wha-wha-what do you think made-made them n-not hang out with you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_162.mp4 Did you ask them? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_164.mp4 And your girlfriend's important to you- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_166.mp4 -and that relationship was important to you. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_168.mp4 At the time it was important, yeah. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_170.mp4 Is it-- Why'd she leave? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_172.mp4 Oh, after the six months. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_174.mp4 Oh, okay. So-so, um, you started drinking again, and then she left? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_176.mp4 You felt isolated? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_178.mp4 And, so you're-you're an independent guy- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_180.mp4 -and, no one's going to tell you what to do. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_182.mp4 Yeah. So, have, uh-- So then, you started drinking again, and that was-- If you could just kind of give me a little timeframe of how long ago that was, that-that six months of complete-- question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_184.mp4 Absolutely. Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_186.mp4 So, in-in what ways has, uh, drinking, um, sort of, uh-- What is kind of the good things about drinking since those couple of- those couple of years, and then-then maybe not so good things? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_188.mp4 Mm-hmm. And those friends that were not hanging around with you, did they come back? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_190.mp4 Did they not get along with your girlfriend? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_192.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_194.mp4 She was separate then from your other friends and- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_196.mp4 -those relationships just didn't come together? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_198.mp4 And what do you think? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_200.mp4 So, you-you-- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_202.mp4 You would have been fine if they didn't- if they didn't give you those-those shots. Yeah. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_204.mp4 Oh, so, the-the-the mailbox, where did that come in? That was the- question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_206.mp4 -first DUI that got you. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_208.mp4 That must have been scary. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_210.mp4 Oh, that was blackout type? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_212.mp4 Right. Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_214.mp4 Oh, okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_216.mp4 I'm-I'm sorry. I didn't mean to assume that- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_218.mp4 -it was blackout that-- Forgive me for that. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_220.mp4 Um, so, that it was sort of after that that the girlfriend-- Your girlfriend, I don't know, well, her name. Um, your girlfriend decided-- The mailbox and she's-- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_222.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_224.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_226.mp4 Oh. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_228.mp4 Yeah. You felt like she was the only person that, um, you had in your life, you needed your friends and-- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_230.mp4 No one likes to be controlled, uh, yeah. Yeah. Uh, and, in what ways, well, did you feel that, um, uh, at any time, did you feel controlled by your friends. You said they-they made you drink those shots. That-that sounded like maybe you felt a little controlled? But-- [crosstalk] question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_232.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_234.mp4 Right, they weren't looking out for your best interest at that point. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_236.mp4 And then sent you out in your car. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_238.mp4 It's a hindsight again. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_240.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_242.mp4 Hindsight? Oh, yeah, they'll-- it'll take the- it'll take the blame. Um, so, you still-- Do you still, uh, you know, you started drinking again, and then, um, the second DUI, what-- Is it the same circle of social-social circle, same friends? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_244.mp4 Same type of situation. [crosstalk] reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_246.mp4 So, they're important to you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_248.mp4 Mm-hmm. Yeah. And-and sometimes, um, people have friends who are friends, but then there's friends who would stay on in our lives and are constant. So, these would be your constant core-- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_250.mp4 Yeah, okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_252.mp4 Have you ever had, um, uh, interest outside, um, the social drinking, the friends, um, like, what do you do when you're not with them? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_254.mp4 Yeah. And any other relationship, if you don't mind me asking-- [crosstalk] question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_256.mp4 How's that going? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_258.mp4 Oh what-- So, what does serious look like? Um-- question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_260.mp4 Yeah. That's all right, yeah. That's good. It sounds like you know yourself pretty well. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_262.mp4 Okay. Right. So, um, now that we-we are looking at, um, your second DUI and, um-- Well, so now, Mike, if you don't mind me asking, what would you do differently, um-um, from here on now? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_264.mp4 Since the co- the court sent you and we have to sort of explore what would happen if you went out and did this again. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_266.mp4 Yeah. Is there somebody that you could call? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_268.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_270.mp4 They'll come. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_272.mp4 Yeah. They'll come. As long as you got the money, they'll come and get you. Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_274.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_276.mp4 Oh, so, when you use your-your bar money, it would be somewhere else? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_278.mp4 Your bar money would be somewhere else, not in your wallet? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_280.mp4 There you go. Okay, yeah. So, that, y-yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_282.mp4 That makes- that makes a lot of sense. So then you'd have your money tucked away someplace different. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_284.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_286.mp4 Sounds like a good plan. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_288.mp4 Yeah. So, uh, how often do you think you'll be needing that plan in the-- question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_290.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_292.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_294.mp4 And then-- Yeah, and then also you said if you're going to have people, uh, you're gonna be drinking for the Super Bowl. Was is it Super Bowl? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_296.mp4 I'm sorry, I'm not a football fan but it's Super Bowl coming up, right? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_298.mp4 So, you'd have them in and, um, I'm just curious about the folks who are leaving your house, would they-- Would-would you be concerned about them, there'll be a taxi. Sometimes designated drivers I-- question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_300.mp4 So, it would be up to them? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_302.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_304.mp4 It sounds like you have-- You've thought about this, and you're-you're willing to put some things in place, the-the wallet, um, money in the wallet and-and for the taxi- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_306.mp4 Have folks in to-to socialize for an event, and that you still have your-your social-- Your friends and your core group and-and, uh, just be careful. What was the six months of not drinking like for you? If you were to choose to not drink. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_308.mp4 Six months is a- is a long time. There was, um-- Try to think back, were there- were there other people? Was it- was it just you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_310.mp4 All right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_312.mp4 So-so, if you were not to-- If you were to go with the plan of maybe not drinking, which you mentioned- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_314.mp4 -um, uh, your girlfriend Mary is-is not a part of your life- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_316.mp4 -right now. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_318.mp4 Would there be something else that would, um, sort of, uh, fill in that-- The-the friends area, do you think? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_320.mp4 But, yeah, I-I see what-what you're saying, for sure. Um, there-there's those friends that they drink but they don't drink that much, I heard you saying. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_322.mp4 Mm. Sure. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_324.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_326.mp4 Yeah. So-- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_328.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_330.mp4 Um, it's one drink per hour. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_332.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_334.mp4 Or one shot or- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_336.mp4 -one glass of wine or one beer. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_338.mp4 Um- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_340.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_342.mp4 Yeah. Uh, the, uh- the idea of, um, having the friends and not drinking, is that something that i-- Would be even, uh, a reality? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_344.mp4 Then, who are- who-who-who are they? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_346.mp4 Would it-- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_348.mp4 Yeah, so wha-what would-- What do you think it would do to the relationship of you not drinking but still being with the-these folks-- These friends? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_350.mp4 Would-would it work out and-- question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_352.mp4 It's uncomfortable. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_354.mp4 What makes it uncomfortable? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_356.mp4 How-- So, messing with you would be like what? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_358.mp4 Oh, and-and-- Oh, I see, yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_360.mp4 Yeah, like sort of- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_362.mp4 Oh, yeah, yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_364.mp4 Right, so you make-- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_366.mp4 Mm-hmm, and- other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_368.mp4 -it's [unintelligible 00:24:05]. I-I-I know that you, um- you value friendship and-and friendship is very important, uh, and, I'm just wondering how important, um, it would be for, uh, you to remain friends with them and still have your-your sobriety. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_370.mp4 And see what happens. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_372.mp4 Yeah-yeah, how important would it- would it be? Zero being not so important and 10 being pretty important that you-- question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_374.mp4 Mm-hmm. Okay. [unintelligible 00:24:52] something you'd be willing to try. Okay. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_376.mp4 It sounds-- That sounds good. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_378.mp4 Well, maybe that's something that we could talk about next time if you- if you want to. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_380.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_382.mp4 Well, I sure-sure would, um, tell the-the people who-who need to know- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_385.mp4 -and then, um- and then it would be up to you mostly. The choice is-is completely yours. And, um, it sounds like to me that there's no reason why you wouldn't be able to do this. You've given it a lot of thought, and you have some plans in place, and anything else that you might come up with, uh, to help you stay out of the driver's seat when you've been drinking. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_387.mp4 Then you wouldn't have to worry. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_389.mp4 Yeah, because worry's no fun. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_391.mp4 All right. Well, thank you Mike. I appreciate this. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_98_393.mp4 Thank you. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_99_0.mp4 Steve, before we're done with our visit today, I was wondering if you'd be willing to take a few minutes to talk about your drinking. question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_99_2.mp4 Well, you filled out this survey for us today, which was great. Thank you very much. I just wanted to review a couple of things on here. I noticed that you said that you drink two to three times a week, drink three or four drinks at a time when you do drink, and weekly, um, have more drinks than that. So six or more drinks, it says on here. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_99_4.mp4 Does that sound realistic? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_99_6.mp4 Okay, okay. I just wanted to let you know, I'm a little bit concerned about your level of drinking. We know that excessive drinking can make problems worse or can actually cause health problems at times, and I was just wondering if you thought about the connection between your drinking and things like the anxiety and the insomnia that you came in with today? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_99_8.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_99_10.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_99_12.mp4 Well, you're not alone, a lot of people think that drinking helps them sleep better, and in reality, drinking might make you fall asleep faster, but it has what's called this rebound effect, and this rebound effect means that you wake up, may, might wake up in the middle of the night or early in the morning and have a hard time falling back asleep. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_99_14.mp4 Mm-hmm. Well, I just wanted to just show you this little chart here. For your age as a male, you're drinking more than those at a low-risk level. Um, the low-risk level for men under 65 is no more than 14 drinks a week and no more than four a day. And, in this case, a drink is considered 12 ounces of beer, 5 ounces of wine, or an ounce and a half of distilled spirits. And you're right, you're not drinking as much as some people out there. The way you answered our questions here, you're actually falling in the high-risk category, the risky or hazardous category, category two. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_99_16.mp4 That's why it's helpful to look at this and give some perspective. On a scale of 1-10, what is your readiness to change, 1 being I don't want to change at all, and 10 is I really want to change? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_99_18.mp4 Well, that's great. That's halfway there. What kept you from just giving it a one or two, something lower? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_99_20.mp4 Mm-hmm. Okay. Well, that's a good place to start. So, I heard you say your health is important, and you're getting ready to run a marathon, so you wanna be able to do what you can to make that successful. And you also were a little bit surprised that you fell into this risky or hazardous category. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_99_22.mp4 Okay. So, based on all that information, what are you willing to think about doing to change right now? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_99_24.mp4 Mm-hmm. So, what would that look like for you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_99_26.mp4 Okay, okay. Well, sometimes when people aren't ready to make changes like this, it helps if they write down their goals, it gives them a chance to see them in black and white. If you were to look at this little form here and figure out where you want to go with your drinking, what would you put down as your goal? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_99_28.mp4 Okay. So that's an improvement. So you're headed in the right direction. I do wanna let you know that with 18 drinks a week, you're still falling above this low-level risk category, and that it would be my recommendation that at some point you would fall below into this 14 or less a week. But it's an improvement, and it's a great place to start, and I really commend you for your willingness to take a look at this and try to make some improvements. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_99_30.mp4 So I'm hoping that in your appointment next month, we can touch base on this and see how it's going. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_99_32.mp4 Okay. Good. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_0.mp4 There, um, what brings you in today? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_2.mp4 It's really getting in the way of you becoming who you wanna be. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_4.mp4 Yeah. So what-what-what about your criminal record is blocking you from getting where you wanna be? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_6.mp4 There's a, uh, your record has a conviction? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_8.mp4 Okay. Ah, there's- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_10.mp4 -the big trouble. Yeah. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_12.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_14.mp4 Mm-hmm. So when you, um, when you put in applications or anything like that, the felony con-conviction, whether you know it or not, seems to knock you out of the ballpark. You're not even considered as an applicant? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_16.mp4 Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_18.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_20.mp4 So do you- do you, um, put out there about the felony conviction before you even go for the interview? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_22.mp4 Seems like it's a done deal. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_24.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_26.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_28.mp4 So you didn't hurt anybody. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_30.mp4 You didn't hurt anything, right? reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_32.mp4 Yeah. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_34.mp4 Yeah, 'cause you're-you're, especially with going back to school and having done all that footwork and stuff. I mean, you really have something to offer somebody. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_36.mp4 Yeah. And, um, and at the time the big crisis was actually maybe prison and all the crisis around the arrest and-and, uh, you know, it's like you're a leper and the leper colony. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_38.mp4 Um, have there been any times when you've started the interview with that conversation so that you don't even have to go through the whole thing and then get rejected? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_40.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_42.mp4 What do you think would happen if you did that? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_44.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_46.mp4 Would that be, um, what would they be like versus getting through this great interview, knowing you're-you're good for the job and all that kind of stuff, and then they boot you out? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_48.mp4 Mm-hmm. It's, uh, I mean the lesser of two evils is that what we're getting at- therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_51.mp4 Right. If that's a deal-breaker and you both know it from the very beginning, I'm wondering if then really the interview is really something else. I mean, whether they get the job would truly be based on the interview and not-not your criminal record. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_53.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_55.mp4 Not like you're working for the government or for a bank or, you know, the FBI where- those are not things you're applying for. They're jobs where you would wonder why a-a non-violent felony would even-- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_57.mp4 Right. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_59.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_61.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_63.mp4 Mm-hmm, you didn't go to college for that. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_65.mp4 Mm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_67.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_69.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_71.mp4 Mm-hmm. So, what have you looked into about, um, you know, advocacy in that area or expungement or anything like that? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_73.mp4 What did you find out? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_75.mp4 Uh-huh. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_77.mp4 I-I didn't know that. So I, you know, I know a little bit about it, um, and not, yeah. So that's-that's very interesting. Oh, what about advocacy groups? therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_79.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_81.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_83.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_85.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_87.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_89.mp4 Mm-hmm. So you're-you're Middle Eastern. So you wonder-- I-I bet you've had experiences where you really have experienced some absolute racism and prejudice because of that. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_91.mp4 And then, um, you walk into these places and they might just be almost storefront- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_93.mp4 -type places. And the job market is terrible. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_95.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_97.mp4 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_99.mp4 What do you have going for you? question therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_101.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_103.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_105.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_107.mp4 It's a long time. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_109.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_111.mp4 And you can- you can prove that and document that. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_113.mp4 Yeah. A lot of folks can't. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_115.mp4 Yeah. And you've been going to school. I mean, all-all your movement is in this really positive, highly motivated way. And, um- and I think your-your thoughts and ideas about the fact that one day a conversation will- you'll strike up with somebody and it will happen to be with somebody who works for a company that perhaps does not have a policy against hiring people with felony convictions. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_117.mp4 It's individual. Yeah. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_119.mp4 It-it is individual. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_121.mp4 It-- I believe it is. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_123.mp4 There's no-- I don't think, any State or federal law that says. therapist_input therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_125.mp4 Okay. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_127.mp4 Right person, right company- reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_129.mp4 -we're looking for here. Yeah. reflection therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_131.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_133.mp4 Mm-hmm. other therapist_behaviour +AnnoMi-therapist_100_135.mp4 I wonder what it'd be like if you ran your own background check and got the report to see what's in there. therapist_input therapist_behaviour